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Our research for Gameweek 1 of Fantasy Premier League goes to a new level with our in-depth analysis of the Community Shield final.

Fantasy Football Scout members now have access to all the underlying data from the match in the Members Area.

They can also read on in this article and digest our thoughts on what the numbers threw up

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  1. TaiwanHC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    A lot of people here are talking about Patricio, Fabianski or Foster as their 4.5 GK. But what about Ryan? I feel like he is highly overlooked.

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    1. Zero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I'm going for him - great keeper and save points although iffy starting fixtures

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    2. Oven Glover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mainly fixtures I guess. Like Ryan but I’m starting with Patricio if I go 4.5 set and forget. Might switch to Ryan on WC, though. Fixtures turn around 2nd international break.

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    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      yep, he should stop all clear and present danger 😉

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    4. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Ryan Button for me

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    5. Brosstan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      What about Begovic/Boruc? 😉

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      1. RIOmybuddy777
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I'm thinking same....

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  2. Winter_is_coming
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Play one in 1 gameweek:

    1) Kamara
    2) Mendy
    2) Wan-Bissaka

    Bookies rate Man City and Crystal Palace clean-sheet very low.

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    1. Dannyb
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mendy all day long.

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    2. AndyCook
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Kamara might not even play

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    3. Hairy Potter
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mendy

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    4. AndyCook
      8 years, 2 months ago

      They must still be higher than Kamara scoring or assisting surely?

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      1. Winter_is_coming
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Why so pessimistic about Kamara? Play well in Championship final, score in last pre-season friendly, which usually important for gameweek 1 selection.

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        1. Tmel
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Kamara will come off the bench for us a lot and get the occasional start but if we sign a left back as planned then I'd imagine Sess & Schurrle will the be the regular pair flanking Mitro.

          Kamara is having a good pre season though and finished last season strongly so he will get minutes.

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          1. AThousandSuns
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Whats the case with Johansen and Seri. It seems Jokanovic will play seri mcdonald and cairney in the middle of the park. I believe you're a fulham fan... I was thinking of giving Stefan a go to start the season in my fpl. What do you think?

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            1. Tmel
              8 years, 2 months ago

              No, I would expect them to rotate and Stef to get frequent bench minutes but as it stands he doesn't appear to be part of the starting XI

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              1. AThousandSuns
                8 years, 2 months ago

                True... Thanks mate

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          2. Winter_is_coming
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            8 years, 2 months ago

            To say truly, from Kamara I want only one start - in 1 gameweek. I think he will start exactly because new defender will come and settle already after 1 gameweek. Am I right?

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        2. AndyCook
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I was being serious but I’m wrong, he’s 2/1. Play Kamara

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    5. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mendy then Wan Bissaka.

      If you aren’t playing WB against Fulham you won’t play him ever really

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      1. Winter_is_coming
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Understand that logic, but Fulham looks solid with those transfers.

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        1. ewangri
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah big fan of them, but would only play a 4.0 den against a handful of teams, I’ve got him too though!

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    6. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      never bench a 6.0m player

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      1. Winter_is_coming
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Maybe I'm wrong with Mendy, but I have good history in FPL and never scared to bench premium defenders, for example. Arsenal will surely score 1-2, no ?

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      2. Athletic Bilbo
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Rubbish. Benched Otamendi twice last season for 1 & 2 pointers and got clean sheets from Mee and Dunk

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    7. Dont choose VW. Pickford
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Surely just play the percentages, with arsenals attack and style palace more likely to keep a C/S would you not say?

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  3. Tmel
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Not had too much time to read posts in the last week but have noticed there's been a real shift back to three strikers in people's teams - any particular reason for this?

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    1. Viper
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Can't speak for everyone but I personally always start with three strikers. I like all my players playing as close as possible to goal

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    2. Zero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Good value + Aguero

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    3. the vanisher
      8 years, 2 months ago

      aguero,auba,arnie,zaha,king,mitrovic all very attractive options.
      not to mention firmino and kane

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    4. Tmel
      8 years, 2 months ago

      All fair reasons, just feels like there were a lot more 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 teams a week or so back

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      1. SwissWavey
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I had a 5-4-1 a week ago, on a 3-4-3 now.
        Lots of people will make lots of changes in the last week

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  4. the vanisher
    8 years, 2 months ago

    who is less rotation prone for Burnley? (following Gibson signing)

    A. Mee
    B. Lowton

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    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      8 years, 2 months ago

      B

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  5. Viper
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Kane & Hazard hitting a brace in gwk 1 would trigger a lot of wildcards 😆

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    1. AndyCook
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Probably not

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      1. Viper
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I bet it would. Especially if the likes of Mane etc blanked

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        1. AndyCook
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Got to be a -16 for me to hit the wildcard. Can do a lot with a -12

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    2. Donnie Brasco´s
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Both will play?????

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      1. Viper
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Both training. Who knows

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        1. Donnie Brasco´s
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Haz wil play, Im 100% sure.
          He is best Chelsea Player...
          Kane is traditionaly slow starter so im waiting 2 gws

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      2. AndyCook
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Hazard no chance

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        1. Viper
          8 years, 2 months ago

          He probably won't play but he is back training

          https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/1026530370806841344?s=19

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  6. Lukakwho
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Please vote. Anyone who gives their opinion will get top 100 this year 😉

    A.) Bailly and Jota
    B.) Tomkins and Bilva

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    1. Zero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      B short term could be worth it

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    2. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      B

      Monitor Jota longer term. Utd in a shambles

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  7. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    A Jota or
    B Richarlison

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    1. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Maddison at Leicester?

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      1. Son is Rising
        8 years, 2 months ago

        shhhhhh, he's flying under the radar!

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    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      B

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    3. Dont choose VW. Pickford
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Ive gone Jota, see if Richarlison can repeat early form last season, althought that is partly cause I have tosun up front.

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  8. FlyingWithoutIngs
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Any draft leagues I can join? Never done it before and I want to know how it works

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    1. Puncheon Guly
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Join a public one first. The draft normally takes place 20-30mins from when you sign up, so it's a good way to test a strategy

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    2. Viper
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Don't bother, you'll lose interest in a few weeks 😆

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  9. Davido989
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Top 4 predictions?

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    1. Lukakwho
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1. United
      2. City
      3. Pool
      4. Spurs

      (Not biased)

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    2. Dannyb
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      United
      Chelsea

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    3. Syd.
      8 years, 2 months ago

      The same 4 as last season

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    4. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea

      ...Maureen to go this year 🙂

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      1. Syd.
        8 years, 2 months ago

        He will grind out a lot of boring wins this season

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    5. Hairy Potter
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Man City
      Liverpool
      Spurs
      Chelsea

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    6. The Mighty Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      Chelsea
      Spurs

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    7. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Villa
      Derby
      Leeds
      Swansea

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      1. Davido989
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Hope yous come back up man, Villa Park is such a good away day.

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        1. Epic Fail
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I think it's more likely this season now that there aren't as many highly paid big egos at the club. Players that actually want to play.

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      2. Syd.
        8 years, 2 months ago

        3-1 up

        Hutton just scored

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    8. Oven Glover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Pool
      Chelsea
      United

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    9. Viper
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1. City
      2. Liverpool
      3. Arsenal
      4. Chelsea

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    10. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      Arsenal
      Spurs

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    11. A.T
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      Utd
      Spurs

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    12. Robbo121
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Pool
      Spurs
      Arsenal

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    13. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      Arsenal
      Spurs

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    14. BobB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Liverpool
      United
      Arsenal

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    15. yakirh
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1. City
      2. Pool
      3. Spurs
      4. Arsenal

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    16. Galza
      8 years, 2 months ago

      City
      Pool
      Arse
      Spurs

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    17. barracuda
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Pool
      Pool
      Pool
      Pool

      😀

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    18. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      pool city spurs arsenal

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    19. Sting in the Tail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Liverpool
      City
      Spurs
      United

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    20. banskt
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Liverpool
      City
      Chelsea
      Spurs

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  10. TheBallersClub
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Eriksen or Mane long term ?

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    1. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      B

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    2. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mane

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    3. DA Minnion (Former great)
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Both

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    4. Badluck Jonathan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Looking at the last 4 seasons, Eriksen’s worst score is better than Mané’s best.

      With increased competition for Mané this year, I think the trend is likely to continue.

      In short: B.

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      1. Badluck Jonathan
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I mean A!! *facepalm

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  11. barracuda
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Who is the better 5 mil placeholder?

    A- Clyne
    B- Gomez

    I want to keep Robbo but if Zaha moves, will have to change Mili to Bilva.

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  12. Scotty B
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Is anyone worried that Ederson won't start on Sunday?

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    1. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      No

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    2. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Nope, all set on that one

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    3. Syd.
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Me

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    4. Jack Sparrow
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Why do you constantly ask the same questions? How old are you?

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    5. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Nope got Ryan

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    6. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Pep.

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    7. Brosstan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Yep. Bravo looked really solid on Sunday.

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      1. Robbo121
        8 years, 2 months ago

        LOL I thought he had a entertaining game, kept the crowd on their toes!!!

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  13. The Mighty Hippo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Assuming I have a spare Man City slot in my team, is Fernandinho a better 5th mid in a 352 formation than any of the 5.0 defenders in a 442? He scored 120 points last season and I can't see any of the 5.0M defenders exceeding that.

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    1. Son is Rising
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Lovren?

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    2. banskt
      8 years, 2 months ago

      And, as nailed as anyone can be in a City team. Decent choice. But Pereira / Morrison / Lovren could be good at that price.

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    3. ewangri
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I was thinking similar but with Jorginho at Chelsea, might want that City slot further down the line

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    4. Brosstan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Yep, hes a great choice if you want to avoid City rotation. Hes 5.5 though.

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      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        yes, I should have explained a bit more. The move I was considering was Costa to Fernandinho or a 5.0 defender instead of a 4.5

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  14. THE Wild Rover
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Mummy scores against Hull. One of the best cheap wagons ever in his day 🙂

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    1. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

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      1. THE Wild Rover
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Hutton rolling back the years too 😀

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  15. columbo
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Jota and Ederson or B.Silva and 4.5 GK? Thanks lads

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    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      First one

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  16. Gazpilicueta
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Budget options

    Wan Bissaka, Stephens, Hudson Odio etc.
    Does anyone else like any of these budget option so much, that they are considering actually putting them into their starting 11?

    My thoughts are, if Wan Bissaka goes into my 11, I could put another 4.0 on my bench and spend the money somewhere else, feels a little risky but could be gold!?

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    1. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      All my budget options are firmly bench-bound.

      Always pick players guaranteed, or highly likely to play.

      Boring 2-3pts each week merchants like Dale Stephens are far better than punts like Hudson-Odoi who's as likely to vanish without a trace by September.

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    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I'm taking a risk to start with and getting Wan-B Bennett and Peltier, one to play every week!

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      1. Gazpilicueta
        8 years, 2 months ago

        nice, im currently on the same

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    3. The Royal Robin
      8 years, 2 months ago

      AWB and Bednarek could be in my team from time to time.

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  17. Denis Tueart on the wing
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Is Mohamed Elyounoussi worth a differential @ 6.5M

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    1. VS10_
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Doesn't seem to fit Hughes' favoured pre-season 352 formation. Could change after heavy defeat to 'Gladbach, but probably wait and see.

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    2. The Gobstopper
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Perhaps, although I think it might be too early to be thinking about him as a differential. I also think there are others in that same price range that offer a bigger upside than him.

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  18. BoleynWin
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Any competitive leagues up & running, would be very interested in cash leagues too?
    I’m already in LMS before you read this TM, looking forward to it.

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    1. mic_check12
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Check Ben crellin’s twitter for details or mail fplcashleague@outlook.com for my leagues that have been going 6 years

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      1. BoleynWin
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Just seen the details, firing an email over to you now mate.

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        1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Would like to read also the details and join, can you share a link?

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          1. BoleynWin
            8 years, 2 months ago

            https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/150/fantasy-sports-sponsored-draftboard-com/fantasy-premier-league-18-19-a-1717445/

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  19. Poppa Klopp
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Any Huddersfield fans on?

    Is Hammer likely to start, had a lot of preseason time!

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    1. THE Wild Rover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I don’t recall ever seeing one on here tbh 😀

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    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Stop...Hamer-time!

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    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      too busy milkin cows...

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    4. Galza
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Hammer To Fall (in price).... 😉

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      1. Poppa Klopp
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Fair enough, guess it’s not hammer time then!

        Thanks

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        1. Galza
          8 years, 2 months ago

          He’s my sub goalie for Patricio.
          Best chance of all the 4.0 goalies to be fair.

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  20. Clickzy
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Haven't tinkered in a while and still have Pedro and Shaw in my team, are either of them a concern?

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    1. the vanisher
      8 years, 2 months ago

      both

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    2. Dont choose VW. Pickford
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Shaw will start initially if utd dont buy anyone but after young is back in contention its up in the air. Chelsea looked crap going forward v city and Willian came on as well so I wouldnt risk pedro myself

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  21. _Freddo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Am I right by saying that according to the data, Alonso was up there with Mendy who is being talked about as an attacking beast?

    Maybe it's premature to write Alonso off so quickly.

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    1. Hairy Potter
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Can Alonso defend in a flat back four?

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      1. _Freddo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        If he can't it makes all their defenders worthless so you have to hope he can.

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      2. Syd.
        8 years, 2 months ago

        No, he is hopeless and Luiz alongside him won't help

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    2. Syd.
      8 years, 2 months ago

      He was but his defending wasn't great not sure how Sarri will square that circle

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  22. The Royal Robin
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Best £4.5 midfield bench fodder? Currently on Gunnarsson.

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    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Stephens

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    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I’m stuck on my 4.5m mid aswel. Currently on Gunnarsson

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  23. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Firmino or Zaha and 2.5 extra cash

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  24. the axolotl
    8 years, 2 months ago

    hutton haha

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    1. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      😎

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    2. THE Wild Rover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Dressed as Lahm 😉

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      1. the axolotl
        8 years, 2 months ago

        boom. 🙂

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    3. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Won't be 4m next year if he carries on like that!

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  25. banskt
    8 years, 2 months ago

    A. Agüero | Milivojevic | Mee | Doherty
    B. Zaha | Bernardo Silva | Mendy | Azpilicueta

    I am not at all convinced with Zaha. His points look interesting because he was classified as midfielder. He has never scored in double digits over the last 4 seasons. Take out the extra points for goals and the clean sheet points -- he will be nowhere close. Same with Arnautovic + bad fixtures.

    I hate to have the fringe defenders. The reliable points are from premiums.

    Which one would you choose?

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    1. The_Adam
      8 years, 2 months ago

      More bonus pts as a striker though whenever he scores.

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  26. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    8 years, 2 months ago

    really struggling with keepers, thought penalty saving records might help tie-break some 50-50s, so behold:

    ederson 5 out of 23, 21.7% (2 out of 2 in the prem).
    de gea 11 out of 44, 25% (3 out of 18 in the prem).
    lloris 10 out of 62, 16.1% (5 out of 20 in the prem).
    alisson 4 out of 14, 28.6% (3 out of 11 in italian and brazilian prem).
    courtois 5 out of 31, 16.1% (1 out of 9 in the prem).
    leno 14 out of 61, 23% (9 out of 39 in the bundesliga), cech 17 out of 76, 22.4% (7 out of 38 in the prem).
    heaton 10 out of 32, 31.3% (3 out of 10 in the prem).
    pickford 5/30 16.7% (2 out of 9 in the prem).
    schmeichel 20/70, 28.6% (4 out of 14 in the prem).
    dubravka 6 out of 20, 30% (1 out of 1 in the prem).
    hennessey 5 out of 43, 11.6% (2 out of 17 in the prem), guaita 7 out of 33, 21.2% (7 out of 31 in la liga).
    begovic 4 out of 40, 10% (3 out of 27 in the prem).
    fabianski 10 out of 40, 25% (5 out of 21 in the prem).
    foster 9 out of 48, 18.8% (7 out of 37 in the prem).
    ryan 11 out of 31, 35.5% (2 out of 3 in the prem).
    lossl 10 out of 40, 25% (2 out of 6 in the prem).
    mccarthy 2 out of 18, 11.1% (0 out of 2 in the prem), gunn 3 out of 11, 27.3% (n/a in top leagues).
    patricio 13 out of 62, 21% (7 out of 39 in portuguese prem).
    etheridge 5 out of 17, 29.4% (n/a in top leagues).
    fabri 3 out of 18, 16.7% (2 out of 13 in turkish and spanish prem).

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    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Ryan Button all the way

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    2. THE Wild Rover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Glad you haven’t lost your sense of humour 😀

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    3. Syd.
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Slow night AB?

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    4. banskt
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Begovic the worst and Ryan the best.

      But, there are so many value options at BHA -- Dunk, Duffy, Groß, Izquierdo, Andone (probable) ...

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  27. Fantasynørden
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Pick one
    A) Coleman and Jota
    or
    B) Tomkins and Bilva

    (Already got Mahrez and Mendy from city)

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  28. Goonermeister
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Who will replace Shaw and when are they expected back?

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    1. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Young. Just taking a rest from bringing it home. Could be any time.

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  29. Goonermeister
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Roughly how nailed on is Charlie Austin?

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    1. The Royal Robin
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Pretty much, but Saints don't look like they're up to much.

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  30. Nutmeg Ninja
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Just washed my hands of Sanchez and ended up with this squad for GW 1

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    1. Nutmeg Ninja
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Thoughts?

      GK: Ederson
      DEF: Mendy, Robo, Daniels
      MID: Salah, Richarlison, Jota, Gudmundsson
      FWD: Aguero, Auba, Tosun

      Bench: Hamer, Jagielka, AWB, Chalobah

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