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Having already assessed the best goalkeepers on offer, we take a look at the stand-out defender picks in FanTeam’s £1m season-long Premier League Fantasy game.

FanTeam is essentially paid-entry FPL with huge cash prizes, with a guaranteed prize pool of £1m and £200,000 going to the winner.

There is no catch here, only a €20 entry fee – a payment you’ll make up just by finishing in the top 5,000.

To learn more about the rules of the game, click here.

HOW DEFENDERS SCORE POINTS

Before we delve into the player pool, here’s how defenders can accrue points in FanTeam and how the scoring system differs from FPL:

FanTeamFPL
Playing up to 60 mins+1+1
Playing over 60 mins+2+2
Clean sheets+4+4
Goals scored+6+6
Conceding a penalty-2n/a
Conceding a converted free-kick-2n/a
Bonus+0.3/-0.3 “impact points” if a team is winning/losing when the player is on the pitch+1/2/3 based on Bonus Points System

There are, of course, other ways to lose points such as own-goals, yellow cards and sendings off (we’ll refer you to our ‘How To…’ for more details) but the above table is a good indicator of the main sources.

Here is a selection of the highest-scoring defenders from FanTeam (including the now reclassified Stuart Dallas) last season and their respective points in FPL:

Player2020/21 FanTeam Points2020/21 FPL Points2021/22 FanTeam Price
Dallas159171£5.5m (MID)
Robertson150161£7.0m
Wan-Bissaka149144£5.5m
Dias145142£6.0m
Alexander-Arnold142160£7.5m
Cresswell142153£5.5m
Cancelo137138£6.0m
Chilwell133139£6.0m
Stones132128£5.5m
Maguire132124£5.5m
Targett126138£5.0m
Coufal125128£5.0m

Unlike the case with goalkeepers, FanTeam defenders are generally worse off for points than in FPL.

In fact, not one defender finished inside the top 20 top-scoring FanTeam assets of last season; ignoring Dallas, in 22nd, we have to go all the way down to 34th to find Andrew Robertson (£7.0m).

The pair were 10th and 13th respectively in the leading FPL points table, by comparison.

With FPL’s Bonus Points System stripped away and winning/losing “impact points” in place, it’s no surprise that defenders from the more successful clubs shine in FanTeam.

The two Manchester clubs lost only six games apiece, so the likes of Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m), Harry Maguire (£5.5m) and Ruben Dias (£6.0m) were big winners.

Contrast that with the FanTeam incarnation of Lewis Dunk (£5.0m), who not only didn’t benefit from his 17 FPL bonus points but also suffered a net loss of four impact points, putting him instantly 21 points short of his FPL total.

With impact points reduced to +0.3/-0.3 next season, however, there’ll be less of an advantage for those defenders playing for the high-flying teams.

Maguire made a net gain of +16 through impact points last season; that will fall to +4.8 if he repeats the exact same win/lose ratio in 2021/22.

BEST FANTEAM DEFENDERS

PREMIUM AND MID-PRICE DEFENDERS

With the change to the impact points rules meaning that defenders are set to score even fewer points than before, there are some tough decisions to be made – particularly among the heavy hitters.

As we pointed out in our goalkeepers piece, Alisson (£6.0m) – who benefits from every save he makes, rather than multiples of three – outscored Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) by over 20 points in FanTeam, which represented a huge swing from the gap in FPL:

FanTeam points in 2020/21FPL points in 2020/21
Alisson162.5140
Robertson150161
Alexander-Arnold142160

The Liverpool right-back gained 26 points on FPL’s Bonus Points System last season, which accounts for the drop.

Of course, Alexander-Arnold had a relatively poor season by his standards in 2020/21.

He ended the campaign in the form we know he is capable of, averaging 7.6 FanTeam points per match in his last 10 appearances; even accounting for the 30% drop in impact points this season, that’s still eye-catching.

And with Liverpool’s mostly favourable start in Gameweeks 1-6, there’ll surely be plenty of takers.

The appeal of Manchester City’s defenders is even more up for debate, with impact points down on last season.

Among the top teams for clean sheets in each of the last four campaigns, we know what we’ll get with Pep Guardiola’s ball-hogging side.

But with attacking returns thin on the ground, FPL bonus points not a factor in FanTeam and goalkeepers earning rewards for every save, the mostly nailed Ederson (£6.0m) outscored the next-best City defender – Ruben Dias (£6.0m) – by over 50 points in 2020/21.

Dias was a relatively secure starter, at least, for those intent on going with a budget shotstopper and spending big in defence.

Luke Shaw (£6.0m) is priced higher than he is in FPL but the other three defenders in the top five for key passes and big chances created in 2020/21 – Lucas Digne (£5.5m), Aaron Cresswell (£5.5m) and Vladimir Coufal (£5.0m) – are available at the same cost.

Digne’s excellent opening fixture run and Rafael Benitez’s reputation as being a quick starter and savvy organiser sees the French left-back near the top of our watchlist.

Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) is one to consider instead of Shaw: not only has he the benefit of a full pre-season, he averaged considerably more FanTeam points per match than the United left-back last year (4.4 v 3.6).

Bar Ben Chilwell (£6.0m), most of Chelsea’s backline can be snapped up for £5.5m.

While the opening fixture run is iffy, the likes of Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.5m) should be under consideration given that the Blues kept more clean sheets than any other club once Thomas Tuchel took over.

MOST PREMIER LEAGUE STARTS UNDER TUCHEL:
StartsMinutes
Azpilicueta171511
Mendy161395
Mount151362
Rüdiger151350
Jorginho151309
Werner131205
James121194
Kovačić           11986
Chilwell11939
Christensen10969

BUDGET FANTEAM DEFENDERS

There is little to get excited about in the £4.0m bracket, with the 18 defenders at this price point all very much back-ups.

Keep an eye on the team news ahead of Gameweek 1, however, for any updates that may see the likes of Andrew Omobamidele (£4.0m) turn their pre-season minutes into meaningful game-time.

As in FPL, the listing of Kostas Tsimikas at £4.0m is worth noting should any injury misery befall Robertson.

Going up a rung to £4.5m sees a lot defenders come into play.

Nelson Semedo‘s (£4.5m) eye-catching pre-season appearances as a very advanced right-back/wing-back sees the Portugal international appear firmly on our radar, even if Wolves look somewhat uncertain at the back.

Seamus Coleman at £4.5m is also an eyebrow-raiser, given Everton’s favourable start, although rumours suggesting the Toffees are in the market for a new right-back may kill that bandwagon.

Arsenal’s solid defensive numbers in 2020/21 and the arrival of Ben White (£4.5m) could be a good match, meanwhile, with the Gameweek 4 fixture swing looking like a good time to board that train.

The team White left behind, Brighton, also quietly impressed at the back last season and sit near the top of our Season Ticker in the opening two months: the likes of Joel Veltman (£4.5m) and Adam Webster (£4.5m) are cheaper routes than Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) into the Albion backline.

The set-piece-taking Matt Ritchie (£4.5m), with five assists from Gameweek 30 onwards, offers attacking threat if not much clean sheet potential, which is the opposite of Luke Ayling (£4.5m) on paper – but those zeroes in the goal/assist columns mask the fact that the Leeds right-back was among the biggest underachievers in front of goal in 2020/21.

Players at the awkward £5.0m price point are often neglected but goal threats (Dunk) and assist merchants (Coufal) can still be found at this rung.

New Leeds signing Junior Firpo (£5.0m) also looks a menace, while Kieran Tierney (£5.0m) is yet to deliver on the undoubted potential that saw him rack up 25 assists in 97 Celtic appearances; if he can stay clear of injury and run-outs at centre-half, then this may finally be his breakthrough Premier League season, particularly with Arsenal free from European distraction.

All of Villa’s key defenders are available at £5.0m but the fact that the save-accumulating Emiliano Martinez (£5.5m) outscored any of them by an incredible 69 FanTeam points last season is a black mark against them.

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  1. Gabbiadini
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Torres & Robertson or Son & 4.0(4.5 defender onfield).

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Do you know if Torres will play?

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        That's anyone's guess but if you nail City then you are ahead, i.e. PPM. Not looking for a season pick here.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          'If'

          1. Gabbiadini
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            well, how many risks do you take. the game requires a certain amount of luck.

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I know planning transfers is risky but I'm going with Mount GW1 with a view to swapping to Torres or Gundog for gw2 once we have a better idea as that is the key fixture

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I've considered this but Havertz gw1.

      2. jia you
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Think I'm going Pepe (in my non BB team) with 0.5 itb to swap to Foden, Grealish or Torres for Norwich game

  2. devoncop
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I have TAA and am BB week 1 as well but as Holmes says I look on Trent as an OOP Midfielder with the added bonus of clean sheet points as a defender when Liverpool do manage to keep a CS. I really do not see Norwich scoring in week 1 anyway despite the Liverpool shortcomings defensively.

    TAA holds a big threat from free kicks and corners and of course VVD being back gives an extra threat of assists for TAA at corners specifically.

    1. 3 A
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Assuming this reply is for me. Good point there.

  3. DavvaMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Morning

    What are the chances of Livramento starting for Saints, I take it very slim?

    Thanks

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Jenny Craid-ad slim

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Craig

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      as a Saints fan, his best bet to "start" early would be in one of the no.10 positions (LAM/RAM)
      KWP was integral last season, as it stands I only see Livramento playing in this position on rotation or to cover for injury.

  4. 3 A
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Many managers want Harvertz, Son, Mahrez until say no to 12.0 price point.

    But there is some issues.

    Harvertz can be false 9 yes, but:-

    - fixtures are not great
    - Chelsea not score much
    - Harvertz waste so many big chances. He got 12, but only score 3. Thats 23%. For comparison Werner get 23 BCT and score 5. Thats 25%. Son get 23 BCT too and score 13. Son score 56% of his big chances. I remember some managers try to pick him when he start as CF (false 9) but he is so wasteful.

    Son

    - fixtures are not great
    - looks likely play without Kane few earlier games.
    - he can have penalties without Kane but there is new rules about penalty. Maybe just few.
    - he always assists Kane, but if Kane is not there, he lose a clinical teammate who can give him points. Lose assist and chances created by Kane too. Kane have the most assists in EPL last season and many of them for Son.

    Mahrez
    - People try their luck but still his manager is Pep. Pep roulette. Even he start at Com Shield, he can be benched for gw1 or 2 where managers want him to play against Nor.
    - At his price points 8-9mil, we can get Grealish. Better because :-

    1. Best 3 fixtures, better than Mahrez fixtures.
    2. Nailed if stay at Villa
    3. Get some addition to squad, think they will make Grealish better.

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Havertz came on strong late.really depends how they use him. Grealish totally depends on where he ends up, if he’s not allowed the move he may be annoyed; two players already signed that take the spotlight off him, ends up at City in Pep rotation.

    2. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Agree with most points.
      But not Regarding Havertz. The fact that Havertz gets those big chances is why he is considered such a great pick.

      But we are getting Lukaku so need to monitor that.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Right. I'm on Havertz, but if Lukaku arrives, Havertz is out of my squad.

        1. Weeb Kakashi
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Even if Lukaku arrives cant see him starting straight away. Havertz for the first 2 should be good.

      2. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'm interested in Havertz GW1 and then swapping to Mahrez/Son GW2.

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      interesting to watch this, I think a lot of people have formed the assumption he will be moving to City.
      stays at Villa the question is do you pay 1.5 more than Buendia.

      1. 3 A
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I have Grealish and Buendia too.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Double Villa mids?!?! Waaahh?

          1. Gabbiadini
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            how many villa do you plan post gw3?

            1. 3 A
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              The plan is only 1. Grealish to Pepe, Buendia to Raph...

              1. Gabbiadini
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                I'd lean towards just starting with Raph over Buendia in that case.

    4. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Interesting post

      On Havertz I'd just add this - look at the proportion of big chances he got in the last 10 or so. Yes he was wasteful but there is a fascinating comparison with Salah in weeks 28 on. In this time Liverpool had ana mazing fixture run and Chelsea didn't

      Salah 11 big chances 3 goals
      Havertz 9 big chances 2 goals

      Looks similar enough to me. And I think that is the time frame you need to check as there was a distinct change of position for him then. Going with him represents a risk of course but 8.5 is great value IF he comes good and he does have a good historic record as a finisher.

    5. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Grealish' buyout clause has been triggered

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        100M?

  5. 3 A
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed.. post back. Sorry..

    Anyone going without Trent or Robbo although they have favourable fixtures?

    Trent likely to outscore all defenders but the ratio is what we talk about. He is not worth 7.5 even VVD is back right ?

    Their mids is not solid enough to give more protection .

    When VVD is fit last season, newcomer Watkin with Grealish and no Buendia can score hattrick against leaky Liv. Now with Watkins assisted by Grealish (if stay), Buendia , Bailey, its more dangerous.

    I think I go without Trent .
    A good 5.0 / 5.5 can follow his points quite close even not outscore him. I talk about ratio.

    In the end, maybe Trent cant get 185, and a good , consistent 5.0, 5.5 def can get 155 / 160.
    That 2.0 saving is huge.

    Can help me get anybody in mids like Bruno, KDB, Son etc.

    Get Trent, Shaw and WanB previously.

    Think I want to downgrade Trent to 5.0 Coufal or 5.5 Digne.

    Thought?

    U going with Trent or not?

    Thanks guys.

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      In a dodgy season TAA and Robbo were the top two scoring defenders.

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        And TAA missed quite a few games. Both viable, one is a must really.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          And TAS scored 210 the year prior.

          1. 3 A
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Not the same side. Siggy once have 180 points , and he never reach that again.

            I'm doubtful he can get 210.

            1. Bushwhacker
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              No its a better side. TAA will be over 200.

              1. Moderately content penguin
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                How is it a better side? That needs elaboration.

                His preferred assist partner is Mane who has bombed since. Does the midfield trio match 2019/20? How do you explain the fall off in cs with the presence of VVD who has something like 4/5 clean sheets from his last 18 appearances?

                He may be a better player but I can see zero evidence that they are a better side.

                1. 3 A
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  This. I doubt they are better side.

      2. 3 A
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Its about ratio mate. i do think he will have a better season with VVD but will 2.5 mill worth?

        If 5.5 get around 155-160 and Trent get better , get around 180. Is that worth?

        The caveat of this is maybe we dont want to keep all season but many managers want him all games.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You’ll be very lucky to stick with a 5.5 that gets 160. Trent can easily pull 200+ ; and the starting fixtures could hurt you big time.

          1. 3 A
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            You have a point .. fixtures is good. I know that. Thats why I start a discussion.

            Varane is a good addition for M.U. If fully fit I can see Wan B , Shaw can get 160. Maybe Digne but the data is not there with a new manager. But according to your logic (search for his old points) , Digne get 158 once without reaching 3000 minutes play.

            So Digne to can get 160. Its possible if Rafa tight at the back and DCL delivers.

          2. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Have you looked at last years scores? Cresswell got 153 for goodness sake

      3. Moderately content penguin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        By how many points and at what cost differential? Very very strange argument that one.

        1. 3 A
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Its about maximising points with limited cost. Of course its not weird.

          You buy a bunch of players and want to get most points from them. Its not about individual. Its combination.

          Like Trent + Son, or Shaw +KDB / Bruno

          1. Moderately content penguin
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            100% agree

            The argument about their being top scorers last time by a handful of points just doesn't stack up when you look at their price.

            I currently have him but don't regard him as essential

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm risking going without both to have a Power-5 midfield.
      I wonder if the tweak to the offside interpretation will adversely affect them as the defence plays very high and often depends on marginal offside decisions.

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        What is your power 5?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Salah Bruno Mahrez Havertz Raphinha - for now anyway

          1. Weeb Kakashi
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Looks good.

          2. Thinkering like a Boss
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            what is your full squad? I struggle to get it right even with Salah, Bruno, Son, Raph, Buendia

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Perilous bench - GW1 could be a disaster:

              Sanchez Steele
              Chilwell Stones Ayling Veltman Livremento
              Salah Bruno Mahrez Havertz Raphinha
              Watkins Toney Obafemi

              1. Thinkering like a Boss
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Same as me expect I have Robertson and Digne instead of Chilwell, Stones.

                but of couse Son,Buendia vs Mahrez,Havertz

                1. Thinkering like a Boss
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  except*

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Sonny and Benny are nailed, to be fair. Mahrez is a risk. Will be watching community Shield closely.

              2. Moderately content penguin
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Perilous as you say

                For me the double Chelsea and City look is one too far anyway. Not sure Stones has enough likely upside to justify the risk when taken in conjunction with all the other rotation risks.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  I read today Laporte wants away - clearly he feels Stones has that spot. Mashrez is a short-termer but the other 4 mids are intended as keepers (so long as Lukaku is a no-go)

                  1. Moderately content penguin
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Interesting that

                    No Laporte would reduce the number of times Stones is rotated out for sure. But would still find it hard to justify him over Digne until United defence settles down.

              3. Tango74
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                never go for back up keeper in sane team especially if u also have a defender from that team.

                You will need two transfers to get midfielder or attacker from that team further on

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Yeh, I should say 'random non-playing 4m keeper'. More likely to be Foster by the deadline.

      2. kobewan
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        What is the tweak? First time I heard about that, I only heard was the changes on Penalty using VAR which they say will lessen the amount soft penalty calls..

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Offside also. They will use the thick bars seen on TV rather than the one-pixel wide lines VAR uses. It gives the benefit of marginal calls to the attacking side

    3. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I guess i am going with both and then getting one of them out for Shaw in GW3.

      Havertz Robbo> Shaw Son in GW3.

      That allows me to have the good fixtures of Havertz,Son and Robbo without sacrificing Bruno.

      Having said that i miss Mahrez. But with the rotation risk he is i guess thats fine. Cant have everyone.

    4. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Interesting post. But Pool's fixtures are too good in the first 8. He's a lock for me.

    5. ritzyd
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Seems like overthinking to not have him to start given Pools favourable fixtures. Can always be downgraded later

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Right, but the thing is he's a full 2.0M more expensive than any non-Liverpool defender.That money can be well-used elsewhere.

      2. 3 A
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Good point.

        The conclusion is, cant have them all. If got Trent, cant upgrade others with 2 mill.

        Lose Trent, yeah I know its risky, can have better players at another price point.

    6. Soto Ayam
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm starting with TAA and plan to switch to chilwell once fixtures change. I'd like cancelo also, but there seems so much uncertainty around who will and won't start. I'm just gonna play safe the first few he's with tried and trusted picks

      1. 3 A
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Good plan there Soto. I like Chillwell to and hope he nailed on.

        1. Soto Ayam
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          As long as we have a playing sub, I'm happy to have him.

          Im sure Chil and cancelo can outscore TAA and 4.5, but I need more certainty before comit

    7. Podge
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A 5:0/5.5 getting 160 is 30 points per million, no one done that last season

      1. Homer21
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cresswell came very close 🙂

  6. Avery
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this lot?

    Sanchez
    TAA | Chilwell | Shaw or Digne
    Salah | Sancho | Havertz | Gundo | Buendía
    Watkins | Antonio

    Steele | Fofana | Obafemi | Hoover

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      7.5 striker over Gundog

      1. Avery
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thnx

      2. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        But but but he scored twice

  7. WVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is Button Brighton's number 2?

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He is at WBA

      Steele or that new signing will be 2nd choice

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Apologies meant Steele?

        Thought that new signing was going out on loan

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I think that was the plan, but it might change depending on whether Sanchez has a minor knock or more serious.

        2. Thomas Magnum
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          This may be the case, but I also heard that they signed the new guy with the intention to send him out on loan. In saying that I’m no brighton fan and that’s just what I read from others on here

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Yeh, me too. I'm just speculating. But I heard Steele is not rated at all.

            1. WVA
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Steele is awful

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Well, he's not at Brighton, so 'no'.

  8. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4.5m mid?

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not much in it, maybe Gilmour since we will never have or need triple Norwich players

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I can see him struggling at Norwich and getting dropped

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Brownhill been ok in pre season
      Bissouma most nailed possibly

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Brownhill is also nailed with Burnley not strengthening in the close season.

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Gilmour for his consistency as a playing 4.5.

    4. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Brownhill. On direct freekicks. Plays regularly.

      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        DFKs?!?!

    5. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Gilmour I think will be the most nailed on consistent 2 point scorer. Think I’ll personally go Brownhill as he probably has the most potential imo

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Brownhill is flavour of the month here, but I can see no real reason why Bissouma is out of favour. Still the best punt for me.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Brownhill scored 3 pts less with 300 mins less ….honestly I think all the 4.5s are massive punts who will stay benched

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Generally a fair point, but with a 4.5 forward on my bench, the 4.5 defender and 4.5 midfielder might get the odd call-up. Especially in GW1.

            1. Bushwhacker
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Oh for sure ; I expect the bench to be busy this year, even had a team draft with a killer bench at one point. But I think the 4.5s mentioned will all net about 75 pts a piece.

  9. Holmes
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I would like to take a punt on Fornals/Bowen...

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Interesting picks. Benrahma too. Read somewhere that he might be on pens too.
      But Bowen out of the lot. 8G 6A last season. Should only improve.

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, just feels more exciting than going with Leeds mids even though its unlikely to work 😀

    2. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same here, even with Benrahma but just not sure who’ll get the most minutes/points potential out of them

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        minutes will hopefully be same as long as they dont sign anyone.

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Fornals

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        lets go 😉

    4. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Bowen/Benrahma imo.

  10. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A. Martinez + Toney + 0.5m
    Or
    B. Sanchez + DCL

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Prefer 4.5 but there are better options than DCL

      Antonio /Watkins/,Wilson

  11. Weeb Kakashi
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bruno is Back. 😉

    Sanchez
    TAA Robbo Digne Veltman (Ayling)
    Salah Bruno Havertz Raphinha
    Antonio Toney

    Robbo Havertz could be Shaw Son come GW3.

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      343 looks so much nicer

      Sanchez
      TAA Digne Shaw
      Salah Bruno Mount Raphina
      Antonio Watkins Toney
      4.0 Fofana Brownhill Manquillo

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Mount Shaw wont start GW1.
        Its just an extra defender over a ST. And when your defender is TAA/Robbo/Digne the upside is just higher at the back.

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Very weak front line dat.

  12. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I know you shouldn’t put all your eggs in the one basket but triple Utd and triple pool anyone?

    Salah, Taa, Robbo, Cavani, Bruno and Wan B here

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I had a triple triple - Liverpool and two Uniteds. looked good actually but the Uniteds clashing GW1 put me off.

    2. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Triple Pool and Bruno.

    3. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Chance that Greenwood starts the season over Cavani.

      1. Babit1967
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Hm that’s interesting, had Cavani in all my drafts as well

        1. Podge
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Me too but too risky

  13. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pingi's online. Mate, you might want to reassess your lauding of McCarthy as the killer 4.5 mid. He's just done a Duffy and upped sticks to Celtic - along with Joe Hart. 🙂

    1. Babit1967
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You maybe getting McCarthy and MacArthur(Palace ) mixed up

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Oh. probably. Ha ha - I bet even Roy got them mixed up. Everyone did when the turned out together at Hamilton Accies!

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      McArthur and not McArthy is the one I was mentioning as a possibility 🙂

  14. Gabbiadini
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is planning a Havertz > Mahrez/City > Son, GW1 > GW2 > GW3 transfer strategy too risky?
    Should other problems arise then I do have the option of just going Son GW2 thus no third move, thoughts?

    Not even thinking of Kane at this stage, would ultimately be at the fate of Bruno.

    1. Sanchit
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      There's just so much left to happen in the transfer market, I wouldn't want to plan transfers.

      Another point is, let's say you have Havertz GW1 and he bangs a brace. Would you still be selling him? I don't think so, specially as he would be rising in price and all others would be bringing him in despite his fixtures

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        yes, I would sell.
        I simply don't want him through those fixtures gw2-6

        1. Sanchit
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You can adopt your strategy if you're confident that you want play the fixtures nothing wrong in that.

          Also, just out of curiosity, are you going without any Villa players? Because they're also a booked transfer come GW3

          1. Gabbiadini
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            No, I am starting with Watkins and Buendia (as it stands).
            I like Buendia to Saka gw3, however, I don't believe the gw3 is a "must sell" with Everton at home in gw5.
            I am prepared to hold Watkins for longer.

  15. Booty
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    In a hypothetical situation IF Kane goes to City and Lukaka goes to Chelsea and is pieced at 10.5 would this be a viable team?

    4.5 | 4.0
    White | Shaw | Fofana | 5.0 | 4.0
    Sancho | Salah | 6.5 | 7.5 | 4.5
    Kane | Lukaku | 4.5

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No.

      Lukaku Sancho Shaw Kane wont start GW1

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        this.

      2. kobewan
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Telles is out and B. Williams possible loan to Norwich.. who will play LB in GW1

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I didn't see Shaw on first glance, I think he starts.

    2. kobewan
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Havertz pick not looking so good now then...

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I am only considering Havertz as a one week punt.
        Don't love their fixtures gw2-6 regardless of Lukaku.

        1. Invincibles
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Mahrez a better shout for opening 5.

  16. Sanchit
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Are these the best 5 defenders you'd want irrespective of the price?
    TAA
    Robertson
    Shaw
    Chilwell
    Digne

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I agree with the first 3, AWB and Shaw are interchangeable imo. Although I’m personally, I’m not keen on the last 2

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd have Dias and Stones if money were no object.

    3. kobewan
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If only Cancelo was nailed enought

    4. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No. I'd have City in the top 5.

    5. Rassi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I would include Crosswell

  17. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Did Mark start a Havertz bandwagon? Didn't see his name mentioned here until yesterday

    1. kobewan
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If he scores against Spurs Tomorrow, we might see a huge spike on his TSB..

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No idea what Mark's done but I've had him for a week. Out he goes if Lukaku arrives, mind.

    3. jia you
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      that would be typical of this site, he has been in all my drafts since the game opened and I got slated on here for having him in my team in the early drafts lol

    4. farmerfat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nope, it started when he scored against Arsenal in pre-season.

  18. jia you
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    If I don't BB, I'm going something along these lines...thoughts welcome?

    Bachman
    Trent Digne Coufal
    Mane Son Havertz Greenwood Pepe
    Watkins Toney
    (Foster Lowton Ayling 4.5)
    0.5itb

    1. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't go without Salah with his opening fixtures. Pepe is wait and see for me despite strong end to last season.

      1. jia you
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'm doing something different this season and playing the game without 'the' two big hitters, Bruno & Salah...hence my 'The No BS League'

        1. Invincibles
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Think Pepe > ESR is a shout and frees up 2m for maybe Havertz > Mahrez (opening fixtures), Toney > Antonio (Nacho for diff) and Coufal > Shaw

          1. jia you
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            yeah have considered freeing up that cash by going ESR alright...cheers

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If it was me I'd go Coufal to Shaw, Mane to Salah and Lowton to 4.0.

    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cant go wrong with that since its a short term team

      1. jia you
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        yeah exactly and can get any City mid really in GW...I'm 50/50 on BB or go with something like the above tbh

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          BB1 just doesnt feel right no matter how I look at it, BB2 feels stronger.

          Will be a late and close call 😀

          1. jia you
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            yeah I'm not sold on BB GW2 and benching points GW1 tbh but it's interesting that you're doing that

  19. Invincibles
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw/Digne Fofana
    Salah Bruno Jota Raphinha
    Watkins Antonio Toney
    subs: Foster Llorente ESR Williams

    Haven't budged on this for a week or so, g2g?

    1. Tango74
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same backline.

      But ,I’m thinking creswell over digne now ?

  20. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4.5m option here?

    meslier foster
    taa shaw coufal xxxx williams

    1. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Fofana/Llorente

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ayling/Veltman

  21. DAZZ
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Plenty of Bruno-less teams flying around. All well and good. At the end of the day, nobody’s team is right or wrong pre season. People can only offer opinions on what they believe to be the best way forward.

    Andy made a very good point. If Bruno-less managers are more than happy to sit back and watch Bruno haul, score penalties in the first few weeks where you dont own him, then be my guest. If your knees will wobble and you’re likely to going to want to bring him in, you’re better off just going with him from the start

    1. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      United are a wait and watch this season imo with doubts over their full backs and almost close to no pre season

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I am on Bruno but what does a Kane at City mean, many questions.

    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Don't buy that reasoning at all

      You can make the same argument for any player you don't have - why is Bruno special as a transfer in? This feels simply like someone who thinks Bruno will haul early justifying the decision to have him.

      If Bruno blanks and Son hauls and you're happy to sit back and watch the goals and assists in the first few weeks for 2 mill less but will trade down for way better value when your selection blanks then you are better off getting him in from the start!

      1. DAZZ
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Bruno will haul early

        1. Rassi
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Or not.

        2. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          no guarantee, same for Salah and Trent and so on...

        3. Moderately content penguin
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          As I was saying 🙂

        4. Podge
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Lol

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why is Bruno special as a transfer in… hmmmm let me think….

        48 returns & 54 baps in his last 49 starts/2 subs… 361 points in 51 apps since joining just under 18 months ago… there literally isn’t another player in the game you can make that argument for (Salah 4 years ago the closest)

        And there’s also nothing to stop him starting slowly & scoring 15 points in the first 5 gameweeks - the same as any other player - and someone completely left field like Mahrez, Son or Havertz scoring 50

        But let’s not pretend Bruno is anything other than an *EXTREMELY* “special” FPL player

        People’s memories are so short on here, it really is baffling sometimes

        1. Moderately content penguin
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You forgot to add that he is guaranteed to up his output 20% this year 🙂

          Son is a very left field pick I grant you - really poor last season and waaaaaaay down on Bruno almost the whole season.

          Or you could of course read my post. I was not commenting one way or the other on the rights or wrongs of Bruno (who I have) over Son simply the reasoning applied for justifying it. I could be wrong there but your cut and paste arguments have zero relevance. Let you think indeed.

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            😆 no one is guaranteed anything - as I made very clear above

            This is just peak FFS, the silliness is in full flow

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            And what on Earth is the snide remark about a guaranteed 20% increase in output? Is that supposed to be something I’ve said? Because if it is I can start fabricating things you’ve allegedly stated too - if you feel that’s a sensible direction to take the place in?

            Cop on to yourself mate, seriously

    4. farmerfat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I have had him in all my teams up until now. I started looking at captaincy and realized I wont really want to captain him for the first 8 game weeks. Is it really worth 12m if I think there are better options available? You mention Andy, he also got a really good finish last season and he started without Bruno for most of the season.

  22. Invincibles
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A) Bruno, Jota
    B) Son, Mahrez

    Will probably WC in gw4-5 so Mahrez rotation less of a worry for me.

  23. Gabbiadini
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone see any value in Everton's 5.5s Townsend/Gray with their early fixtures?
    Not seeing anything on here.

    1. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yep

      I've still got Townsend in my unrevised draft. Suspect I'll lose him but I have him as an interesting punt with fairly low expectations. Rafa appear to be going without wingbacks and that makes the wings possible supply lines to DCL.

      Quite interested in the 5.5 price point with a few who could be real value there but all come with hefty question marks. May just lose that spot.

      Dallas - over performed last time
      Fraser - not nailed but Wilson
      Mbeumo - not nailed but Toney
      ESR

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        ESR also has Maddison speculation and not as good opening fixtures.

  24. Davros
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gundo brace - another strong start again??

    1. Davros
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If any other 7.5 scored a brace yesterday we would be all over him

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        So why don't you think people aren't all over him?

        1. Davros
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Because he was unexpected last season and bust the xG. Just saying if that was first game of the season we’d be getting him in but I haven’t seen him in any RMTs. Don’t know if he’ll do well or not- prob won’t continue. Just an observation

          1. Davros
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            And of course because he’s not nailed

            1. The Knights Template
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Boom

    2. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Better pick than Jota? I'd consider it as a way into City's attack.

      1. Davros
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Personally I am steering clear for now

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Is KdB out for a while? I really like Gundo's prospects if that's the case.

      1. Davros
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Short term maybe but high risk

  25. Powers106
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How is Benjamin Mendy looking? I can probably tinker and squeeze in Dias but there could be good upside with Mendy?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Do you know if he will play?

    2. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      too risky

    3. Davros
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think if you go with almost any City option you are risking it, just need to get lucky with patches in the team

  26. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Tammy's transfer will kill these FPL options

    WHU - Antonio
    AVL - Watkins

    1. DAZZ
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Watkins - disagree, Antonio, potentially. Wouldnt say kill but plenty will jump on board

    2. Davros
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Where’s he going?

    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Only thing its likely to kill is his own career. He should go for West Ham if any since Antonio is getting old plus he is injury prone. Brighton might actually be a good long term solution for him.

    4. Rassi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      BHA - Maupay 😉

    5. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Only one of them, surely?

  27. Mitch3ltje
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    RMT:

    Sanchez
    TAA - White - Dias - Shaw
    Salah - Bruno - Buendia
    Watkins - Toney - DCL

    Bench: (0.0 ITB)
    Foster - Bissouma - Raphina - Manquillo

  28. devoncop
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Atalanta also in for Abraham apparently so no guarantee he doesn't move there...all fallout from the likely Lukaku to Chelsea move.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think Tammy wants to go play football whether Lukaku comes or not.

  29. rnrd
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is it just me or Cancelo looks on fire in pre-season friendly games ?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He is. I'll be watching him on Sunday.

  30. kobewan
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    RMT 0.0m ITB:

    Schmeichel
    TAA White Veltman
    Salah Bruno Mahrez Buendia ESR
    DCL Waktins

    Foster Ayling Fofana Obafami