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With the fourth of December’s six Gameweeks just hours away, our community has been on hand to offer a wealth of advice on captains, cheap strikers and Liverpool’s conveyor belt of must-have midfielders.

Our community scribes focus on how form and fixture analysis can help with our armband decisions ahead of Gameweek 17, while our hot topic posters have been in poetic mood with some Shakespearean puns around the beautiful game.

Creative defenders get a once-over in our Members tables and finally we catch up on those who have a happy Winter Tale to tell at the summit of our community contests.

The Community Articles

Harry Kane’s blank against Hull City on Wednesday marked a rare flop for YMA’s regular What the Fixtures and Form Say predictions.

The striker grabbed star billing the last time this method was deployed but his failure to find the net against such weak opposition means that Tottenham team-mate Christian Eriksen hogs the limelight in his latest despatch, ahead of Burnley’s visit to White Hart Lane.

This week marks a slight tweak to the method he has being using, with bookies odds jettisoned as a predictor of form and replaced with a closer look at clean sheet potential.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Double point hauls for West Brom’s Salomon Rondon and Liverpool’s Divock Origi in Gameweek 16 showed that the third striker market remains competitive. It is the Reds’ young Belgian sensation who has particularly impressed Parm, who believes he may even retain a starting berth when Philippe Coutinho returns from injury early next month.

Musicholic also joined in the discussion with this look at some of the best strikers with a price tag below the 7.0m mark.

As interest in Origi rises, the stock of Roberto Firmino plummets, with the Brazilian looking lost as a Fantasy prospect without his compatriot Coutinho on the pitch.

Dino examines the Firmino firesale that has been taking place across a barren run that will stretch to six league matches should he fail to deliver returns against Everton on Monday. Parm was back again with his thoughts on why the Reds midfielder’s performances have dropped so markedly.

Those that have stuck by the former false 9, now lost left winger, were among those to detail their terrible performance in our Rough with the Smooth round up of Gameweek 16.

There were further tragedies, as well as a fair few comedies, in Jafooli’s request to hear the community’s best Shakespearean football puns.

The acquisition of Manchester City striker Kelechi Iheanacho during Sergio Aguero’s four-match suspension has proved to be another weepie. After being substituted before the hour mark away to Leicester, the youngster was left on the bench against Watford in Gameweek 16.

With this in mind Joe Sherman sparked this discussion on City boss Pep Guardiola’s uneasy relationships with strikers.

There was also a mystery novel in the making behind FPL managers’ decision to transfer out Chelsea’s Eden Hazard after he missed the midweek match at Sunderland. More than 112,000 managers have parted company with the Belgian, much to the befuddlement of Licious Lizard. Hazard has since returned to training ahead of tomorrow’s clash against Palace.

The Chelsea schemer has proved so unpopular this week that he saw a price reduction overnight. Deano is among those concerned that FPL managers are getting too obsessed with team value.

We finish off our summary of the week’s hot topics with a mention to two of the community’s cleverest fellows.

Jarvish has got through to the semi-final of Channel 4’s Countdown’s series playoffs and Gargamel popped in let us know about the launch of a website dedicated to his Gargatron tool, which provides a fascinating insight into just where we are going right, and in my case wrong, this season in FPL.

The Members Tables

After Salomon Rondon leapt off my goals imminent table in style with a midweek hat-trick, there is a new batch of faces vying to find the net to back up their promising underlying statistics.

Meanwhile, Waxfoot has been taking a look at creative defenders who are on the cusp of a points haul from assisting.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

This weekend is crunch time in The Fantasy Chili Bowl team competition, according to the latest update from organiser committee member Jarvish. This details the Gameweek 17 ties that will decide who progresses to the next stage.

In TorresMagic‘s Last Man Standing competition the safety score was 35, which saw 138 players depart and 1238 remain.

Elsewhere, Raul Seleccion continues to top Red Lightning’s Top 10k Any Season mini-league.

Red Lightning also tells us that his January to May mini league (1441-820) is now available for entries. This will start scoring from Gameweek 20.

Over in the FFS Moderators and Contributors league, at long last, we’ve seen major developments at the top. Long time leader Facer has been pegged back over the last two Gameweeks, with Torres Magic now level at the summit on 912 points.

In my Millionaires Club, for those who had a Gameweek rank above the one million mark in Gameweek 12, Krak Krak has taken the lead and now sits 148,642 in the overall placings.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round Ups please email me a brief summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. derdourily
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Choose one guys :

    A. Antonio + origi
    B. Lallana + caroll

    1. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. waldo666
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gee that is a tough one mate, almost coin flip territory for mine

    4. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  2. dcarlito
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Love it when it gets feisty on here 😉

    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      What happened?

      1. Siggy in the Middle
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You completely contradicted yourself though.

        “Bench Alonso this week.”
        “Just joking don't bench him.”

        Cheslki are solid defensively, so they had a point when they disagreed.

        1. Siggy in the Middle
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Reply fail. Meant to be for FPLVirgin.

    2. dcarlito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ah previous page. No names 😉

      Nothing serious, handbags really.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Idiots. The lot of them.

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          When you post something and then completely contradict yourself you are actually the idiot.

        2. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Made me lol 🙂

        3. dcarlito
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          To be honest Virge, I did think the original post was completely pointless and smacked of fishing for a cheap debate/+1's, no offence. I mean benching Alonso against Palace?

          But who am I to judge.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Let's see if palace score tomorrow then. There's a good chance they will.

            1. George Sillett
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Don't divert the issue. You have 100% contradicted yourself and hens totally nullified your argument.

            2. dcarlito
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I don't care what happens tomorrow. The price of Alonso, his price, his attacking threat, his current form and the fixture all suggest anything but bench which is what was suggested. And I thought you back tracked anyway?

        4. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          You really need to stop brown nosing and posting for postings sake. It gets very boring when there is so little substance to rhe majority of what you say. Law of averages post enough and occasionally a valid point materialises but we don't want to hear the other 90% of bull**it.

  3. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Nothing on origi from Klopp?

    Why is he still flagged?

    1. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Don't you think you've just answered your own question

    2. jurgenklopp.8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      he's fine

  4. Aubaaaaa
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If Payet and Kane blanks again, I'm thinking of doing next GW:

    Kane to Ibra
    Payet to Eriksen

    Thoughts?

    1. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If nothing else is pressing it might pay off

    2. waldo666
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I like those moves

    3. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      pretty sheepish. Id hold Payet WHU have some great upcoming fixtures

  5. Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anything you’d change here? I have 1.5m in the bank but no FTs

    Pickford (Heaton)
    Pieters Holebas Amat (Lovren McAuley)
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Siggy (Capoue)
    Kane Costa Carroll

    Cheers in advance

    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I personally would always play Heaton, and would probably play Lovren over Amat.
      Same front 7 as me, lets have a good one.

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Interesting you're right on Lovren I'll change that.

        I hadn't considered playing Heaton as Tottenham will likely score but maybe save points make him a better option

        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I have same keepers as you and I'd been burned so often playing the wrong one I now just play Heaton. Yes for the saves.
          Lovren I feel has more goal threat than Amat, both will probably concede.
          Go with your gut though, always, over people here.

          1. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Clean sheet odds do favour Lovren and I hadn't checked until you mentioned it.

            You don't see a CS for Sunderland?

            1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              They've had 1 all season so no. Pickford also gets the saves though...

              1. Geoff
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Pickford came through!

                Rough week for you mate, sorry to see it.

                Three transfers already?

    2. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good to go.

  6. UnitedFan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Cedric (bou) or Capoue (sun) first sub?

    Lost on last post.

    1. dhamphiir
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cedric

  7. waldo666
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Start 2....

    A) Cedric
    B) Holebas
    C) Ake

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A and C

      1. waldo666
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        cheers

  8. Zizou
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Heaton
    Cedric alonso holebas
    Hazard sanchez phillips eriksen
    Kane carroll costa
    (Jaku, fer, amat, evans)

    GTG

    correct bench?

  9. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hit taken. Team for weekend

    Foster

    Valencia Holebas Pieters

    Hazard Alli Lallana Sanchez

    Origi Costa Kane

    1. dcarlito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Captain?

  10. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pickford Grant
    Lovren Pieters Holebas Amat McAuley
    Sanchez Firmino Hazard Siggy Capoue
    Kane Benteke Defoe

    Any obvious changes, or save and have 2FTs for next week??

    1. ZakAFC_
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Save

  11. Ravager
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster (Japu)
    Walker Cedric Alonso (Amat Nyom)
    Sanchez Eriksen Siggy Allen
    Costa Kane (c) Origi

    2.9 ITB

    Allen > Lallana for a hit or GTG?

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nice team. I would hold the FT.

    2. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Could you get Walcott instead? Might be a good option for next week

      1. Ravager
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'll look into that. Currently have exact cash as well. Thanks for the input

    3. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Solid team as it is! Would hold!

      1. Ravager
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for the replies everyone

  12. vardys party
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pickford
    Luiz Vert Pieters
    Haz Eriksen Mane Siggy Allen
    Costa Kane (c)
    (Cech Lovren Amat Diamanthi)

    Good to go? 0.5 in the bank.

  13. James101
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Gtg?

    Pickford.
    Alonso. Cedric. Francis.
    Eriksen. Hazard. Siggy. Sanchez.
    Costa. Kane. Origi.

    Subs. Grant. Phillips. McAuley. Kingsley.

    Also...

    A. Grant (LEI H)
    B. Pickford (WAT H)

    Cap'n will be Costa or Kane.

    1. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Almost nothing in it, odds are nearly the same.

      1. James101
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Pukka. Yeah. I guess I see lei as the bigger threat so I'll stick

    2. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Grant

      1. James101
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ha. Perfect timing!

  14. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best GK for the next 2 GWs only? Foster > who?

    A) Lloris
    B) DDG
    C) Courtois (have Alonso)

    1. Daddy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lloris

  15. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Evening folks. Who would you start out of:-

    a) Clyne (eve)
    b) Holebas (sun)?

    Cheers

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. sambyy
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Holebas

    3. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Holebas for me.

    4. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers. I was leaning towards Holebas so will probably stick. Everton put a lot of balls in the box which I think will trouble Liverpool.

    5. Nitram
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  16. Doar1986
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is Carroll gonna play

    1. James101
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes?

    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hope so! Started last time so why not?

  17. Lecky Legs FC
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    My squad as it stands for GW 17:

    Grant
    Alonso Cedric McAuley
    De Roon Hazard Mane Sanchez
    Costa Ineanacho Kane (C)

    1 FT & 0.6 ITB who comes in for Nacho?

    A) Origi
    B) Carroll
    C) Rondon
    D) Wilson

    1. James101
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  18. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Has anyone ever destroyed their FPL team as a result of having one can too many on a Friday night?

    I remember waking up to find Cameron Jerome in my side with Kane nowhere to be found.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. Forza Papac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ok

    2. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      FPL is too important for me to mess with even after cans

      I know not to open it if I've had drinks

    3. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    4. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I once subbed in Yaya Sanogo in for Costa

      1. Forza Papac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I think you had three too many

    5. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've destroyed it as a result of having one too less points on a Saturday night

    6. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. Season 2011/12 to my shame.

    7. Forza Papac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've also destroyed many a Football Manager career

  19. Prison Mike
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who to start?

    A) Lovren (eve)

    B) Amat (mid)

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  20. Carlton P
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Zaha > AFCON
    Anyone got any info on this?
    What is the cut-off date for the squad being named?paperwork being in? Anyone

  21. Unbelievable Jeff!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Do I play Friend or VVD?

    Also playing Alonso and Ake

    1. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      VVD

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Virgil

    3. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      VvD

  22. Siggy in the Middle
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Should I play Grant if I'm already playing Pieters and Allen or should I just play Pickford?

  23. Swanny18
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone captaining Hazard this week? I know Kane is probably the sensible option (don't own Eriksen) but it just doesn't feel right!

    1. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not guaranteed a start, so would advise otherwise tbh.

    2. Siggy in the Middle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No.

      Away form is a little bit dodgy + early kick off.

    3. Mane
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I am, he'll either play or he won't right?

    4. Nitram
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm going Costa over Haz.

  24. Nitram
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Grant/Foster
    Daniels or Cedric Prodl McAuley (Cameron)
    Sanchez Mane Zaha Hazard (Kante)
    Costa(c) Deeney Wilson

    Wilson > Llorente
    Kante > De Roon

    Allowing for Deeney > Benteke & Alonso in the next two weeks.

    Sound good?

  25. The Count of Monte Cristo
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which 2 would you start...?

    A) Amat
    B) Brunt
    C) Friend
    D) Stones

    1. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      bc

    2. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Amat Friend

    3. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      AC

    4. Worzel Gummidge
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A and D should be perma benched and D needs to be sold.

        1. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I've been trying to weeks, believe me!

          1. The Count of Monte Cristo
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            for weeks^

        2. Carlton P
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          How can stones be benched if he should be sold?

          1. Worzel Gummidge
              9 years, 1 month ago

              He asked who to bench so I told him and I added a bit saying D should be sold. The world is seriously dumbing down.

              1. TJ_777
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                worzel, the pinnacle of intelligence

            • The Count of Monte Cristo
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Think we got the gist though to be fair.

        3. Nitram
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A&B

          1. The Count of Monte Cristo
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers everyone.

      • Carlton P
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Play chambers or cedric?

        1. Aubaaaaa
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Cedric

      • Aubaaaaa
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Lovren (eve) or Brunt (MUN)

        1. Nitram
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Brunt

        2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If I had either then Brunt for those FK's and crosses.

      • rozzo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Anything worth a hit?

        Pickford
        Alonso Cedric Holebas
        Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Siggy
        Costa Kane Origi

        Jakupovic De Roon Amat Love

        1. rozzo
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          0.3 itb

        2. Daddy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nah, looks good

        3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No.

        4. Carlton P
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No save 0.3 for
          Kane > ibra next week

      • dark91
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Would you do KDB to Payet or Walcott to Antonio ?
        I don't have any other Arsenal or City players

      • Jameszz
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Amat (Boro away), or Mcauley (Man U home)

        1. Daddy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Amat

        2. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Currently leaning towards Amat.