The Promoted

What to expect from Leeds’ defence and attacking full-backs in FPL

Leeds United have the potential to offer some defensive returns upon their return to the Premier League, but much hangs in the balance ahead of 2020/21.

The Whites won promotion with some exciting full-back options and a possession-based game which could favour their centre-backs, but Fantasy managers still have plenty of unanswered questions.

What tactics will Marcelo Bielsa deploy in the top-flight? Which goalkeepers and centre-backs will still be at the club come September 12th?

We spoke to LeedsLive reporter Beren Cross, who has covered the entirety of Bielsa’s reign at Elland Road, to get the inside track and have taken a look at the Whites’ Championship-winning data.

What is Leeds’ clean sheet potential?

Leeds come into the Premier League with some potential for clean sheets in 2020/21, but we may have to wait and see how they adapt to life in the top flight.

That’s because their defensive credentials for the new season are reliant on several variables which are difficult to assess over the summer, specifically relating to the manager’s tactics, the future of key personnel and any transfer window recruitment.

“As with many title winners, United conceded the fewest goals in the Championship. Like Premier League viewers are used to see with Manchester City, the Whites were able to carve out many of their clean sheets from having such high possession numbers and dominating territory.” – Beren Cross

This style of play enabled Leeds to win the Championship with 22 clean sheets, five more than any other side. They also conceded just 35 goals in 2019/20, the lowest total in the league, averaging at 0.8 per game.

Unsurprisingly, it was Elland Road that helped the Whites to most of their defensive returns. They kept 13 of their clean sheets there (59.1%) and were breached just 14 times on their own turf. That’s four better than any other Championship club managed at home, and an average of 0.61 per game.

Naturally, Bielsa’s men weren’t quite as tight away from home but were still one of the second tier’s best defensive sides on the road in 2019/20.

No Championship side kept more away clean sheets than Leeds last season (nine), while only West Bromwich Albion (18) and Brentford (20) conceded fewer times than them on the road (21).

Title WinClubGC (title-winning season)RankingGC (first PL season)% increase
2010-11QPR32166106.3%
2011-12Reading4117378.0%
2012-13Cardiff City4527464.4%
2013-14Leicester City4325527.9%
2014-15Bournemouth4526748.9%
2015-16Burnley3525557.1%
2016-17Newcastle United4014717.5%
2017-18Wolves3914617.9%
2018-19Norwich City5787531.6%
2019-20Leeds United351TBAN/A





AVG = 50%

Furthermore, as you can see from the table above, Leeds come into the top-flight with the best Championship-winning defence since 2010/11, when QPR conceded just 32 goals on their way to the second-tier title.

Of the last 10 sides to win the Championship, only five (including Leeds) have done so with the best defence, so Bielsa’s men are certainly on the right side of history as far as defence is concerned.

Meanwhile, if we were to feed Leeds’ goals conceded tally into the average percentage increase between title-winning seasons and first in the Premier League, it predicts them being breached 52.5 times in 2020/21.

Based on the goals conceded tallies of top-flight sides in 2019/20, that would be a total similar to a mid-table Premier League club, certainly an achievable and realistic total considering how many times Newcastle (47) and Wolves (46) conceded in the first campaign after winning the Championship.

These numbers in isolation suggest that, if the factors mentioned below go in their favour, that Leeds could offer some clean sheet potential in the Premier League, certainly more than former champions Norwich last season.

As you can imagine, the reality is rarely as simple as that. You only have to look at the table above to see that while QPR have the best defence of the last 10 Championship winners, they also posted the worst percentage increase in goals conceded from that campaign to the next.

In Leeds’ case, we must consider the tough tactical decisions Bielsa has to make before the September start-date.

Dominating possession in the Championship is an entirely different ball-game to replicating that in the Premier League but it does sound as if Bielsa will have his players attempt it anyway. According to our Leeds contact, that means we are perhaps unlikely to see too many cagey affairs involving the Whites.

“As a team which likes to attack, United will leave gaps for the world’s best attackers to exploit, though. They will not be a defensively rigid, functional, pragmatic side like Sheffield United. Bielsa does not do ‘set up for a 0-0’.” – Beren Cross

Meanwhile, there remain questions over important individuals in Leeds’ defence, most notably the future of Ben White, who spent 2019/20 on loan from Brighton.

It is also tough to predict which of Kiko Casilla or Illan Meslier will be handed the number one goalkeeper jersey after the former was handed an eight-man batch for racism in February.

“Much depends on whether they get Ben White, star centre-back, back from Brighton & Hove Albion and how young goalkeeper Illan Meslier copes with the step up if experienced stopper Kiko Casilla remains out the picture.” – Beren Cross

Player-by-player

Kiko Casilla | Illan Meslier

  • Position: Goalkeeper
  • Starts: 36 | 10
  • Substitute apps: 0 | 0
  • Goals: 0 | 0
  • Assists: 0 | 0

As already mentioned, the goalkeeper situation at Leeds is a rather uncertain one heading into 2020/21.

It was 33-year-old Kiko Casilla who started the 2019/20 campaign as the first-choice but missed the end of the season due to his racism ban.

Illan Meslier filled in admirably, starting each of the last 10 games of 2019/20 and keeping five clean sheets in the process.

However, given how much Leeds dominated the ball during their Championship title win, it is somewhat difficult to make detailed comparisons between Casilla and Meslier from a shot-stopping perspective.

The Whites faced an average of nine shots per game last season, the best of any team, so neither goalkeeper was called into action particularly often compared to the rest of the division.

Both Casilla and Meslier averaged two saves per match last season, with a staggering 39 goalkeepers producing more than that – such was Leeds’ control of proceedings when in possession.

Whoever gets the number one spot next season is likely to face more goal attempts than that in 2020/21 but it is difficult to determine how either shot-stopper will cope with that.

It is also difficult to separate the two based on what they offer Leeds when they have possession of the ball. Bielsa likes his goalkeeper to join in with that tactic much like Pep Guardiola asks of Ederson.

As a result, both goalkeepers finished the 2019/20 season inside the Championship’s top-three for accurate short passes per match among the division’s shot-stoppers. Casilla was the slightly better option with 19.1 for every 90 minutes he was on the pitch, Meslier just behind him on 18.6.

Therefore, if Leeds can control some games next season, as they have some practice of at a lower level, the role that the goalkeeper plays in making that happen could prove a potential source of bonus points.

Luke Ayling | Stuart Dallas

  • Position: Left-back | Right-back
  • Starts: 45 | 35
  • Substitute apps: 0 | 2
  • Goals: 5 | 4
  • Assists: 3 | 4

“Luke Ayling and Stuart Dallas played as the team’s full-backs for much of the campaign. Theirs will be the first United prices I check when the game launches. While the clean sheets will surely diminish at a higher level, they may deliver the best value across the squad. Ayling has surety of starts at right-back. He delivered four goals and four assists. Whereas Dallas, a makeshift left-back, is likely to start the new campaign there, but may come under threat from more natural options. The Northern Ireland international has spent much of his career as a winger. If the game registers him as a defender, he may well become an out-of-position asset later in the season if Bielsa decides to push him forward.” – Beren Cross

There is a lot to like about the Whites’ full-backs ahead of the 2020/21 season, as you can see from what our Leeds reporter thinks of them.

Whether they can offer value to Fantasy managers will, of course, depend on how the pair are priced and, in Dallas’ case, whether he is classed as a defender or not.

In terms of separating the two from a Fantasy perspective, they represent the age-old dilemma for picking between two players.

Ayling is the much more nailed-on option in terms of starts, considering he is a natural right-back and the fact that Bielsa is unlikely to change things too much next season.

That may, of course, be something Dallas can boast as well, although he is not a recognised full-back based on his career thus far. Despite being slightly less certain of consistent starts for the whole campaign, the underlying data suggests Dallas can offer much more than Ayling going forward, which could be especially exciting if he were to play in a more advanced position later in the campaign.

The Northern Ireland international may have registered the same number of assists as Ayling in 2019/20 but he outperformed his full-back colleague when it came to key passes.

Dallas created 43 chances in last season, more than any other Leeds defender, even ahead of Ayling when we consider the slight disparity in game-time. It made for a key pass every 91.4 minutes compared to one every 109.5 for Ayling.

The quality of Dallas’ delivery is also worth noting. In 2019/20, he produced 11 big chances for his team-mates, only attacking midfielders Pablo Hernández (13) and Jack Harrison (17) managing to create more across the season.

The makeshift left-back also offered a greater goal threat when compared with Ayling. His total of 32 shots in the box was the most of any Leeds defender last season, 12 more than his right-back colleague.

Crucially, 10 of these were considered to be big chances by Opta, the joint-third highest total in the whole squad. Only Harrison and leading goal-scorer Patrick Bamford were afforded more high-quality opportunities.

Finally, Dallas was incredibly accurate in the shot too. He registered a total of 26 shots on target in 2019/20, the second-best tally in the whole squad, bested only by Bamford (56).

That’s the dilemma that faces anyone considering a Leeds full-back. Ayling is more assured of his place while Dallas carries slightly more risk with potentially greater rewards, considering his attacking credentials and experience playing further up the field.

Ben White | Liam Cooper

  • Position: Centre-back
  • Starts: 46 | 36
  • Substitute apps: 0 | 2
  • Goals: 1 | 2
  • Assists: 2 | 0

The centre-back position is another department of Leeds’ defence that hangs in the balance ahead of the new season.

The future of Ben White is likely to dictate whether or not the Whites can offer clean sheets in 2019/20, the Brighton loanee top for clearances (122), blocks (25), interceptions (118) and recoveries (301) among Leeds players last season.

But the centre-back also played a crucial role in Leeds’ domination of possession, as did nailed-on colleague Liam Cooper.

Both players were top for passes and accurate passes among Bielsa’s squad in 2019/20. It was White at the summit of both charts, attempting 2,582 passes with 2,184 of them reaching their intended target.

Cooper was in second place for both statistics, 1,940 of his 2,367 attempted passes finding their way to a Leeds team-mate.

Somewhat similar to the goalkeepers mentioned above, such impressive passing statistics could be an important factor in bonus points if Leeds were able to control some games and keep clean sheets next season, although they will still have to compete for those with the very capable full-backs and attackers, of course.

Out of the two centre-backs who helped Leeds to the title, it is
Cooper who offers the slightly greater threat in the box. He registered 21 shots there compared to White’s 15, despite playing fewer minutes. That meant a goal attempt in the area every 148.9 minutes for Cooper and one every 276 there for White, while neither played more than nine key passes.

Brighton have been rather bullish over White’s status during the summer though, and it is likely to be a saga that winds on for the duration of the transfer window.

Manager Graham Potter has insisted the centre-back is one of their players, that he is ready for Premier League football and will be competing for a place in the Seagulls’ squad in 2020/21. Meanwhile, the club’s CEO Paul Barber recently issued a ‘not for sale’ statement on the player. Perhaps then, Leeds’ best chances of securing White’s services for the new season lie in the loan market.

“He’s contracted with us and he’s on loan at Leeds. He’s our player. It’s fantastic he’s had this year with Leeds. I think everybody won. Ben got some great experience, Leeds achieved their goal of promotion. But we rate him highly. I followed his career personally when he was at Newport and Peterborough. As I’ve said before, we were aware of him at Swansea, we were probably trying to sign him ourselves if we were still there. We like him a lot. He’s a really good player and thankfully he’s our player. (Next season) he’ll be competing for a place like everyone else.” – Graham Potter, speaking in July

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725 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ArseneKnows
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    This has probably been asked many times ..so apologies...When do we think FPL is opening up?!

    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ask arsene

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      4 am

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It's already open. you can go in and change the team you support. Woohoo!

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This is only relevant to supporters of PL teams who haven’t won anything/qualified for anything.

  2. beric
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Shameless repost as i have no success when betting:

    Whaddup guys.

    Got a £5 free bet for the game tonight.

    What do you fancy?

    3-1 city @ 9/1

    Madrid to qualify @ 11/2

    KDB LGS @ 13/2

    Gimme your suggestions!

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      put £1 on each of them and £2 on the game being interrupted by a streaker.

      Its an exceptional long shot with no fans in the stadium but I have a feeling that David Silva will want to put himself in the spotlight and i hear hes packing an immense ball bag

      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hahaha

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Man City HT
      Real FT

      That’ll be a big old price & entirely possible

      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Quite like this

      2. beric
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        45/1, i put a pound on

    3. beric
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I put £1 on each of the above, except silva stripping.

      And £1 on 2-0 madrid+benzema fgs, 98/1

      In the unlikely event that anyone is interested

    4. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What bookie is that?
      Odds better than bet365

      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Paddy power

        1. FFSbet.com
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers

  3. Greek Freak
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    UCL Fantasy: captain KDB or Benzema?

    1. Isco Disco
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Karim! He's in his best form of his life

    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kdb i reckon

    3. Flaming Flamingo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KDB

    4. Greek Freak
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all.

    5. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Benzema

  4. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    @BenDinnery
    Frank Lampard revels that Christian Pulisic and Cesar Azpilicueta will be sidelined for between three and six weeks after suffering hamstring injuries during the FA Cup final. Meanwhile, Pedro has had surgery on his shoulder. #CFC

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      So possibility of both Azpi and Pulisic missing GW1.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ahhh, seems so. *draft torn up*

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'll pick up Willian over pulisic then finally!
      .... Wait ....

  5. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Foden starting this game is pretty amazing. Looks like Pep might be ready to let him off the leash. He could be unbelievable next season. Should come in at around 7.5m. Stockport Iniesta.

    1. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He has already been starting big games this season. I was sure he was starting.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe intentional effort just to use his energy for high press

      1. Tinkermania
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He is now part of the best available 11. Nothing too tactical today, just best 11.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I disagree with that. Hopefully you're right though. O won't mind a 7.5m City attacker

          1. Sgt Frank Drebin
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Maybe he will be helping Walker to deal with Hazard. Mahrez isn't very good in defense

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Exactly. He has energy to press or track back.

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Seems pretty tactical to have Fernandinho and Gundogan in there.

          But yeah, Foden is likely playing RW this game. If he plays there regularly this season he'll be great value.

    3. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Could be good,something wrong with Mahrez probably

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He's shagging Ex Kun GF.
        😀

      2. Tinkermania
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not the first time Mahrez hasn't started a ''big'' game.

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      One to watch for sure

      The good - Burnley & Drunken Liverpool

      The bad - 3 points per appearance & 18 blanks in 23 this season plus those last 6 appearances were a bit worrying, but at that age he has the world at his feet

      If he increases from 3 PPA to 4 PPA.... and increases from 23 appearances to 30-ish appearances he should be good for in the 120 region maybe?

      Reckon he might only he 6.5 though to encourage people to sign him

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm considering Foden and Greenwood as my lesser midfielders. Do you think that's too risky?

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        His ceiling is way higher than 120.

        He's currently playing furthest forward for City against Real Madrid... If he gets 30 appearances, he could score Mahrez level points.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah that’s why I was increasing both his PPA from its current 3.0 up to 4.0 & bumping his appearances up from 23 to 30 - that would get his points up from current 69 to around 120-ish (always plus or minus though)

          6.5 seems fair enough given 18 blanks in 23 appearances but Dilva’s departure might drive it a small bit higher...

          His season really consisted of 2 games - Burnley & Liverpool - and he was actually very disappointing from an FPL perspective either side of those two games

          Especially getting one attacking return from City’s 21 goals during the closing run of blue fixtures below (he appeared in them all):

          sou, NEW, bri, BOU, wat, NOR

          Those last 6 games showed what he’s capable of (in a bad way) and probably tempered any high hopes after the Burnley/Liverpool games

          Bags of potential - but probably need to be careful not to get too carried away with expectations as well

  6. Amey
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Just seen a video of Bruno Fernandes leaving pitch last after a training session on FB taken by a ground staff i guess.

    Love the Man ! So different from other idiots United managed to sign in post SAF era ...

    Hopefully he'll manage to drive others around him even more

    1. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don't speak too soon my friend. He excelled against relegation fodder this season. Let's see what he does next season. He could be excellent value or not!

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm talking about his drive. And United played Wolves,City,Chelsea,Leicester, Spurs & SHU since he came to the PL. So this whole narrative here of him playing relegation fodder is nothing but false.

        I agree with you though. A full season would telll us how good is he. But he's a great character to have in dressing room. That's my main point in the post

        1. Tinkermania
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I get you. You are right about character so far. Let me reiterate though, he scored 2 goals against teams in top 10, both penalties. He could well smash them up next season. We will wait and see.

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yep

      2. Azathoth
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think Amey's talking about Bruno's commitment and dedication.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Aye

      3. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        But that's exactly what he was brought in to do. United had a strong record against the top teams but struggled to break down the lesser teams, or the relegation fodder. He resolved this.

        1. Tinkermania
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          @GIGGS B........Could be chance there of tactical play. Bench him against top 10, unleash him against bottom 10. 😉

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Well he played well in the 2-0 victory against Man City.

            1. Tinkermania
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Personal opinion. No returns is a fact.

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Excellent point !

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Already reached cult hero status after only a few months

      Potential future club legend in the making

      1. Azathoth
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Like Bebe....

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No.... no he’s not like Bebe 🙂

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I wouldn't use such terms too cheaply. They apply to Eric Cantona who led United to a string of titles and trophies. Bruno will be a huge boon but I don't see United overhauling Liverpool for the foreseeable.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          “Potential future club legend” applies to Eric Cantona?!

      3. Tinkermania
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Like Macheda...

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No.... no he’s not at all like Macheda 🙂

      4. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He has the character to be a club hero. An instant hit. I love when he runs back to win loose ball (many times thanks to grandpa Matic or lazy Pogba)

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yer i really hope he does too mate. 😆

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        😀

  7. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Can’t believe this competition is still going on and wasn’t null and voided.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Why would it be? What's it got that Premier and other domestic league haven't?

      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Main format of the competition completely flipped on its head.

        Gargantuan asterisk beside the winners.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Can't we say same about .. ahem ahem ..

          1. Rainer
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Europa League? Absolutely 😉

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              🙂

  8. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    4 5 1 seems to just be screaming at us this season. So many defensive and midfield options

    1. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Speak for yourself 😉

  9. Isco Disco
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hala Madrid!
    Let’s go boys! Hazard Karim Rodrygo should be able to score 2+ goals against this City defense.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Love the Champion's League! 🙂

      Imagine if Zindane won another Champion's League... His managerial record would be the best of any manager ever, surely...

      1. Digital-Real
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        or a manager of very good players?

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It wasn't a comment on his abilities, just the record itself.

          No manager can win the UCL without very good players!

  10. Digital-Real
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    KDB a very good Premiership player or a world beater? 😉

  11. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    1-0 Sterling G Jesus A.

  12. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Oh dear.

    French Maguire.

  13. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    It’s nice not having FPL to worry about and my heart sinking every time Sterling scores!

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Amen to that!

  14. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Madrid could do with Bale right about now. 😆

    By the way absolute criminal mistake by Varane. I wonder how many mistakes his type make without ever really getting the criticism PL players would get.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Fans tend to overact to mistakes. Nobody's perfect.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I do agree but I think there's a definite blind view to the likes of Varane, Ramos, Koulibaly etc. They make a heck a lot of mistakes from whenever I've seen them - mainly in CL.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          What did you think of Koulibaly vs Liverpool?

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Very poor at Anfield but very good in the home games. This was the case in the two seasons we played them imo.

            Salah sat him down to score the decisive goal - a mistake most PL defenders would get berated for.

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I think that was the only change Salah got out of him in the four games?

              Keeper should have done better on his near post there too... but was interesting that he only beat him once - certainly looked like Koulibaly learned from it

  15. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Pep will start Jesus in the next 10 games for that

    Textbook pressing and unselfish teamplay - superb from the wee man there

  16. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Yikes, my feed is two full minutes behind you guys. Gonna have to get off this forum!

  17. Forza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Zimmermann and Godfrey lasted longer than Varane and Militao 😆

  18. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Juve down 1-0, Memphis goal

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      City vs Lyon as things stand.

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      @Memphis with a Panenka!

      No worries, Sarri will change...nothing.

  19. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Imagine Guardiola & Zidane in the same midfield

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I liked the Davids - Zizou combination at Juve better

      1. Tinkermania
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I watched a lot of La Liga when Pep was playing. If he wasn't managing big clubs, not many will be talking about him. His playing career is not memorable. Zizou on the other hand, whole world knows how he played.

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          yeah, i know where you're coming from - don't get me wrong, Pep was a brilliant player but in that era there were so many fantastic centre mids and i think a few were ahead of him IMO (Zidane being the pinnacle)

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          The role he played was extremely unglamorous though - he was basically Sergio Busquets - thought himself & Zidane in the same midfield would compliment each other really well

          1. Tinkermania
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Zidane and Kante trumps that combination.

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Well that’s that settled then 🙂

          2. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            definitely, but Id have a lot of other mids over busquets too

            Davids and Zidane were phenomenal

        3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Always remember Roy Keane dominating Zizou in the Delle Alpi - spine tingling stuff

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Nah, it was Davids that Keane dominated.

            to be fair, Keane dominated the entire team that night

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              He was a freak of nature

              Keane & Zidane - that would have been the midfield to end all midfields

              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                yeah i think you could hand out the trophies on the opening day of the season and nobody would argue

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Was always the frustration (And the joy) of watching Serie A back in the late 90’s

                  The quality was just light years above the premier league - it was a genuine shock when Utd scored in Turin - no English team had ever won in Italy at that point & they were completely written off

                  With good reason too given the quality in that Juve side (Keanes booking to miss the final made the performance & result even more supernatural in hindsight)

              2. Tinkermania
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Now you are talking. Why didn't you say so earlier.

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Until they come up against Keano 😉

  20. grooveymatt65
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    sterling (c)!!!!

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Best player on the pitch!

  21. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Sterling GW1 ©

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not seen him in many RMTs so far. Hope it stays that way. Nice big price tag please Towers...

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wait does winning this tie mean no GW1 for City?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If 30 day break rule is non negotiable, then City miss GW1 as things stand.

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Real gonna win this don't worry

  22. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Madrid are a bit shite.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      we'll see a better team in the second half. City need another IMO

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Timing.

  23. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    1-1 Benzema

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lovely from Rodrygo

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Agreed. Perfect chip cross. Both teams looking good going forward, not so much going back. Could end up 4 all at this rate.

  24. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Benz G
    Rodrygo A

  25. FantasyHero
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    City looking nervous in defense.

  26. Isco Disco
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Kariiiiiiiiiiiiim what a club legend!
    Get innnnn! Let’s grab 2 more goals boys

    1. Critical Observer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How did you like the outcome? You have gone strangely silent since yesterday, hope you are ok. :/

  27. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is there a comeback on the cards?

    1. Isco Disco
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      There was always a comeback on the cards against this City defense. It’s Real Madrid after all.

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Depends which defence messes up the most.

  28. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    FFS - was always gonna shoot. Mug

  29. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Weird seeing City have a normal level of possession.

  30. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Commentator: "you get what you pay for"

    Harry McGuire smirks.

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ozil disagrees.