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How Southampton solved their defensive issues as Ings outscores Adams again

Burnley 0-1 Southampton

  • Goals: Danny Ings (£8.4m)
  • Assists: Che Adams (£5.9m)
  • Bonus points: Ings x3, Jan Bednarek x2 (£4.5m), Ryan Bertrand x2 (£5.0m)

Danny Ings (£8.4m) remains one of the most reliable forwards in the Premier League despite the £2.5m price hike ahead of the 2020/21 campaign.

The Southampton man added his third goal of the campaign in a 1-0 win at Burnley on Saturday, the most of any colleague and behind only Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£7.4m), Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) and an injured Son Heung-min (£9.0m) in the early stages of the Golden Boot race.

Crucially, Ings is still offering a degree of Fantasy value, despite that more expensive price for the new season. After three Gameweeks, he is inside the top 10 among forwards for points per million spent (2.6). As things stand, Harry Kane (£10.5m) and Vardy (2.7 and 3.2 respectively) are the only dearer forwards to outperform Ings in that respect.

However, the former Burnley and Liverpool man will have plenty of opportunities to soar up those rankings when Southampton host West Bromwich Albion in Gameweek 4.

The Baggies may have stunned Chelsea into a 3-0 half-time lead at the Hawthorns but they still conceded a further three goals of their own in the second half. That means Slaven Bilic’s men have given up 11 goals in their first three matches of the campaign. No English top-flight side has conceded that many goals in their opening three league games since Arsenal in 1963/64 (12).

While further attacking returns are very much on the cards for Ings on Sunday, one minor question that may hang over Ings from a slightly more long-term perspective is whether or not he can sustain goals on a short supply of shots.

While he has three goals in the last two matches, Ings has only taken three shots in that time. At Burnley on Saturday, the Southampton forward was limited to just the one effort. 

Once West Bromwich Albion are out of the way, the Saints face Chelsea (away), Everton (home) and Aston Villa (away), each of which could prove an important test of his Fantasy appeal for the rest of the season. If these sides keep Ings as limited shot-wise as Spurs and Burnley did, it might be difficult for him to continue the current run of form.

Frank Lampard’s men have certainly had defensive issues this year but after the international break, Edouard Mendy (£5.0m) will be considerably more bedded into the team, while Thiago Silva (£5.5m) will have settled in a little more too. It will be interesting to see if Chelsea can take a more assured defence into that Gameweek 5 fixture.

While Ings’ Gameweek 6 opponent Everton have kept only one clean sheet so far this season, a trip to Aston Villa in Gameweek 7 may prove challenging too. Dean Smith’s men are yet to concede this season, have four clean sheets in their last six Premier League outings, three of which came at Villa Park.

However, if Ings does come through this run with a handful of more attacking returns, then the Fantasy community are sure to take notice.

It has taken some time for owners of Che Adams (£5.9m) to be rewarded for their patience, although they might have hoped for more from the trip to Burnley.

The former Birmingham City man has been unfortunate thus far this season, recording the same number of shots in the box and big chances as Ings, but falling slightly short on accuracy. As a result, he is still without a goal this season and is usually one of the first to be replaced by Ralph Hasenhüttl in the second half. So far in 2020/21, Adams is yet to complete 90 minutes in the Premier League, averaging just over 79 minutes per appearance.

Like Ings, he was restricted to just one effort on goal at Turf Moor, although it would be sensible to assume he will be handed more opportunities by West Bromwich Albion’s leaky defence on Sunday.

Furthermore, while Adams is currently 14 Fantasy points behind Ings, Gameweek 3 once again highlighted the cheaper forward’s superior creativity compared to his strike-partner. Against Burnley, Adams registered his first assist of the campaign, having outperformed Ings for key passes thus far – which could bode well for the Baggies’ trip to St. Mary’s.

Considering that Alex McCarthy (£4.5m) remains the most popular Fantasy goalkeeper, currently sat in 18.7% of teams, Southampton’s defensive improvement in Gameweek 3 was a welcome one for many.

Having deployed a perilously high line at home against Spurs, Hasenhüttl dropped his back-four back considerably at Turf Moor. He also made one change, dropping Jack Stephens (£4.9m) to the bench, replacing him with Jannik Vestergaard (£4.5m).

That made for a much more secure foundation from which to operate in Gameweek 3, earning Southampton their first clean sheet of the campaign.

“It wasn’t a good start to the season but we have focused our work this week on the defence and it was fantastic to see how much they had invested today.” – Ralph Hasenhüttl

While Emi Martínez (£4.5m) certainly looks an attractive option moving forward, anyone hoping to hold their transfers and not spend a Wildcard may be encouraged by a few of McCarthy’s underlying numbers from Saturday.

The Saints’ goalkeeper was just one save short of an additional point at Turf Moor, while his total BPS score was just one away from pushing him into a share of bonus. A Gameweek 4 meeting with West Bromwich Albion might help him make a breakthrough on both of those counts.

That said, Southampton were helped in their clean sheet exploits no end by Burnley’s ongoing squad problems.

They came into Gameweek 3 without James Tarkowski (£5.4m), Ben Mee (£5.0m), Robbie Brady (£5.0m), Jack Cork (£5.0m), Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.4m), Jay Rodriguez (£5.9m) and Ashley Barnes (£6.0m).

Those absences left the Clarets rather short in every department and, with a large number of youngsters on the bench, Sean Dyche did not make a single substitution all night – almost certainly to send a message to the board.

“The chairman knows what is required. Action. We need players. It is a challenge though, here, it always has been. We have two experienced defenders on the bench and that is it. We are reliant on what we have. It is a challenge but we will have players back fit.” – Sean Dyche

Newcastle, Tottenham and Chelsea are three of Burnley’s next four opponents and if the Clarets do not improve their personnel problems between now and Gameweek 7, those clubs’ defensive assets certainly look like attractive prospects.

The ongoing list of absentees in Lancashire is helpful in one other respect: budget defensive options. Tarwkoski and Mee’s injuries have allowed Jimmy Dunne (£4.0m) to start two matches in a row now and, after two matches, the budget asset is actually Burnley’s top-scoring defender – useful for anyone Wildcarding right now.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Pope; C Taylor, Dunne, K Long, Bardsley; McNeil, D Stephens, Westwood, Brownhill; Vydra, Wood.

Southampton XI (4-4-2): A McCarthy; Bertrand, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Walker-Peters; Djenepo (Tella 77′), Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Armstrong; Ings, Adams (Obafemi 77′).

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  1. Cruz88
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Is Mahrez a decent replacement for Sterling if it means being able to upgrade Mitchell to Robbo? Or keep Sterling this week against Leeds?

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Keep Sterling

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I wouldn’t do Sterling to Mahrez as you’re losing a captain option. Mahrez is at a funny price where you need him to return reliably but I’m not sure he will.

      Foden could be a more cost friendly alternative, though he did look a little lost vs Leicester.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I wouldn't do sterling to Mahrez either but when has Mahrez not returned consistently? Probably before Leicester's title winning season? If he plays he scores well

      2. Ghost Ship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        No one can really know this. He could do a son with four goals or disappear again like Werner. Personally I think 11.5 is too much for someone looking so out of sorts (regardless of whether they score) but I wouldn’t have Mahrez either based on one goal. Either stick or pick someone in form.

      3. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I think Leeds could be the perfect fixture for Sterling, he needs space

    3. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Last week I thought Adams was a smart move over Ings, but tempted to a sideways transfer now, thinking long term. But this article got me thinking twice about shifting him.

      Is Ings really worth the £2.6 extra over Adams?

      A) yay
      B) nay

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        100% yay

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yes

      3. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Definitely

      4. yash
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yes

      5. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yea

      6. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Penalties make it a no contest

      7. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        txs all
        Might have to e for a hit of doing it this RGW, other fires to put out

      8. All about the galacticos
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        A

    4. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Don't have Ings but from the ones I have, thinking Jim (c) is the best bet next week.

      Salah playing AV away and they've improved since last season; KDB vs Leeds - too much uncertainty over City form and Leeds won't be easy ofc.

      Could maybe consider DCL along Jim.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I honestly think City attacker is your best bet if Leeds go ultra-attack as vs Pool they will concede 3-5 goals

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I’m on Jimmy(c) too 🙂

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Sold Son for Podence which now leaves 4m ITB. Team is at a bit of a cross roads; JRod/Foden can become Bruno if penalties are going to continue to be a theme, or I can shift the funds to TAA / Robbo after the Everton game.

      Martinez
      James, Saiss, Digne
      Salah, KdB, JRod, Foden, Podence
      DCL, Jimenez

      Forster, Lamptey, Mitchell, Brewster

      Who’s more pressing to get in?
      Ings, Richarlison, Bruno, TAA?

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Podence fit now?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I checked Molineux Mix and they seem to think he’ll be fine for this weekend. It is definitely a risk transferring him in though.

          I looked at Pereira at 6m as West Brom have great fixtures but that wouldn’t leave me enough to do Foden > Bruno if I felt like doing that next week.

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Crikey, ballsy move. Eyeing up Foden and Jimenez for Son and Mitro myself

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Ballsy or plain stupid!

              I like those moves.

              As much as I enjoy watching JRod, if he doesn’t look getting attacking returns before Brighton then I’ll move him on to Bruno which leaves enough to do Digne to Robbo. In theory at least!

              1. Whazza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 6 months ago

                Sounds great imo! I'm not on the JRod wagon but think he looks a great option for his price

                1. Twisted Saltergater
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 6 months ago

                  Yep, funds may be going on Liverpool defence, I think.

                  Thanks for your input, mate!

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Robbo for me. Cs will follow. Poor error was all that prevented it this time and just as a mid I’d have him not far behind any of your 3 budget options.

        Handball pens will interfere slightly with cs but don’t see it as a significant issue. So far there’s been about 1 a week - Liverpool would have to be very unlucky to lose more than 2/3 cs over season for that.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Cheers Pingi! Son getting injured after a wildcard is a real spanner as it means I have to wait a week before shifting the funds.

          I was impressed with how Liverpool looked defensively vs Arsenal so will prioritise at least one of Robbo/TAA for after the Everton game.

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Lost Son as well from WC. Bit bullet are reverted to week 1 pairing of Soucek and Ings 🙁

            Going bigger at back compared to you leaving only one premium mid. Leaves me in a captaincy bind of course.

    6. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      How did Ralph solve the problems?

      He played Burnley - an insipid attack that doesn’t threaten on the break and has zero pace to cause problems to the high line

      1. Jullepuu
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I mean Wood scored a goal that was "offside"

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        They did seem to sit a little deeper but yeah, very much this.

    7. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      So gonna wildcard after next week I think. Who would be a good 1 week punt in defense? (Gotta replace Shaw) 5m to spend

    8. EgyptianKing
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hi mates.

      Son —> Mahrez this GW

      Martial —> Kane after GW4

      What do you think?

      1. EgyptianKing
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Current team:

        Ramsdale
        Robertson, TAA, Dier, KWP
        KDB, Podence, Son, Salah
        Mitro, Martial

        Steer, Burke, Mitchell, Davis

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I’m not bowled over by either pick. Mahrez streaky and a wait and see on Kane with Son being out.

        1. EgyptianKing
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Cheers.

          Mahrez with both Jesus & Kun out should be starting imo.

          Kane is a risk - differential I guess

      3. FOMFF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I like it.
        Kane will surely hit a streak (I'm hoping)

        1. EgyptianKing
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Cheers mate!

    9. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Is FPL statistics not working for anyone else?

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah my prices keep dropping rather than rising 🙁

    10. aborg
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mane or KDB captain this GW ?

      1. FOMFF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        kdb

    11. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Lewis dropping tonight!!!

    12. yash
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Which site is accurate for price rises this season? was following fplstatistics but it seems a bit inaccurate.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Is it working for you? Can't reach the site since yday

        1. yash
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Yes its working.

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Thanks

      2. All about the galacticos
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        fplstatistics is well off. If anyone is above 80% they are fair game to rise

    13. NorwichCityLad
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      When is the ffs app coming out?

    14. FOMFF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Keep Kane or Werner?

      1. yash
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Kane

    15. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      For those who missed it overnight

      Last Man Standing GW3 (3598 teams)

      Safety score = 29
      Top score = 82
      LMS average = 43.43 (-1.89) = 41.54

      219 to be removed including 82 WCers, 3379 through to GW4

      To qualify, scores needed after hits are 39, 34 and 29 for GWs 1-3
      Code is 48n69x

      https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

      Congrats to all the survivors 🙂

      1. All about the galacticos
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        ouch, a high proportion removed were on WC. A brutal week

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          One WC scored 18.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 6 months ago

              One of the lucky ones

      2. TFP
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who's the best sub 6.3 or cheaper forward for the next few weeks? e.g. Mitro? Adams? etc.

        1. 2OLEgend
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Mitro

        2. Maeki2
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          adams good fixture, alot of chances

      3. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Difficult to see past the obvious Werner -> Ings move this GW. Banging in the goals, on penalties, tailsman who hogs that BPS. Also gives me 1M to play with as I see fit. I may hold though, hmm.

      4. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        What would you do here? 1 ft, 0.5m itb.

        A. Davies > Lamptey
        B. Save ft and have 2 after the break

        mccarthy
        taa davies taylor
        salah kdb bruno soucek
        ings dcl mitro

        nyland mitchell egan bissouma

      5. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        [Ornstein] Whispers after Chelsea drew at West Brom about a half-time incident involving Marcos Alonso. Emerges his reaction to being subbed left Frank Lampard the angriest some had ever seen him + Alonso’s #CFC future in doubt.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          He left the ground after being subbed.

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Correct. Lampard using abysmal tactics, continually playing him in a 4ATB.

      6. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        A) Robertson + Soucek
        B) Saiss + Barnes

        1. Traction Engine Foot
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          B

        2. masterkyzz
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          A for days

      7. Traction Engine Foot
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Is Diangana an option for the next few? Looks pretty dangerous whenever I've seen him and the saving over Pereira would allow me to get Ings..

      8. matiakez
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Davies and Werner to Jimi and Castagne worth a minus 4?

        I presume Davies' days are numbered now?

      9. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who to give the C?

        A- Jimmi - FUL
        B - Werner - CRY
        C - Ings - WBA
        D - KDB - lee

        1. Traction Engine Foot
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          C or D

      10. ymx
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Bruno + DCL/Mitro/Ings OR Zaha/Barnes + DCL/Vardy/Ings??

      11. wulfrunian
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Podence and Marcal...neither are ruled out for the weekend. Marcal in light training. They'll see how they both get through this week before making a decision ahead of Sunday's game against Fulham #WWFC

      12. Almathkourq8
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Do you think its time for Wildcard ?

        McCarthy (button)
        TAA mitchel Dunne Justin (Saliba)
        Auba Rodriguez Son Mane (Stephens)
        Martial Ingsy (Brewster)

        1. luk46
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          no, only needs about 3-4 changes

          1. Almathkourq8
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            What changes u think I should do ?

      13. FOMFF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Members area question - what stats do you pay most attention to when comparing two strikers?

      14. tankle
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        What to do with Son cash?

        a) 4.5 def. > Robbo (have taa)
        b) 4.5 def. > Saiss (have no wolves)
        c) Mitro > Ings
        d) C.Wilson > Jimenez
        e) Save (+ 4 points)

      15. Niho992
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Referee at Che-Palace will be Michael Oliver. Hmm maybe to keep Werner?

      16. Puntillimon
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        This team ok without hits right? And correct bench?

        McCarthy
        Trent robbo Taylor KWP
        salah foden soucek
        Jimenez kane Mitro

        forster Burke Mitchell son*
        2.0 ITB 0FT

      17. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Quick couple of questions here:

        Martinez
        Digne Saiss James Justin
        KDB Bruno Rodriguez
        Jimenez Ings Richarlison

        Button Grealish Bissouma Ferguson 0FT 1.1 ITB

        Captain:
        A) Ings (WBA)
        B) KDB (lee)

        Bench:

        1) Grealish (LIV)
        2) Justin (WHU)

        1. Puntillimon
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          KDB
          bench grealish

        2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          B
          2

          1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            I meant play Justin