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Should we sell or hold Timo Werner ahead of FPL Gameweek 4 and who are the best replacements?

It is fair to say that Timo Werner (£9.4m) has not started life in the Premier League as Fantasy managers had hoped he would.

Chelsea have scored six in their first three matches but their new forward has managed just one assist in that run.

So the question is: Is it time we looked to replace Werner? And if so who for? In this article I want to talk about the possible options.

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  1. TomSaints
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Barkley at 5.9 playing every week for Villa is interesting. Not for a few weeks but could be a gem as cheap 4th mid

    1. Tarby
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A 5.9 midfielder needs to be a starting surely?

      So many options at 5.5 or less if you're not going to start them regularly. Several options under 5.0 even who always start and can pick up 2 points when required. I'm not a fan of many of the 6/ 6.5 options this season, they seem no better than lots of cheaper options and not nearly the potential of the 7+ options. Foden now 6.6 is the pick and will almost certainly be great value, but needs to be paired with a reasonable bench often as will likely be rested some games

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Barkley will be a starter. No good for that price at Chelsea, but at Villa he'll be nailed. Replace either Hourihane or McGinn, both of whom have made great starts in their 2 games.

    2. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Better cheaper options elsewhere + Grealish is the asset from Villa you want to get

    3. hewittj1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Soucek much better option once WHU fixtures turn

    4. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I don't think he'll be nailed. Probably rotated with Hourihane.

  2. dee_top
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Starting squad for GW4:
    McCarthy
    Doherty TAA Justin
    Salah (c) Barnes Rodriguez Soucek
    Vardy DCL Ings (vc)
    Subs: Nyland Reed Mirchell Saliba
    3.6m INB, 0 FT

    Best move:
    A) Soucek to Mahrez for -4?
    B) Doherty to (??) for -4?
    C) Soucek to (??) for -4?
    D) Do nothing

    1. JBG
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      D

    2. hewittj1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      D

  3. JBG
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sorry for repost.

    What option?

    A) Play Bissouma and bench Son
    B) Son to Rash/Barnes/Hamez/Mahrez -4
    C) WC

    McCarthy-4.0
    TAA-Vinagre-Justin-Johnson-Mitchell
    Salah-Kdb-Son-Podence-Bissouma
    Jimenez-Adams-Martial

    1. 0 itb and I took a hit last GW(as great as that was :/).

    1. Tarby
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Bissouma suspended

      A lot of potential non-players in your team! Vinagre, Johnson, Adams could all be on benches. Then Son and Bissouma def out and Podence could be injured!

      Mitchell and Justin could lose their places in the not to distant future when PVA and Pereira are back fit!

      Soon you could only have McCarthy, TAA, Son, KDB, Salah, Podence, Bissouma, Jimenez and Martial actually playing!
      I expect Johnson to start for West Ham eventually as well though. A lot of gambles in your squad though, could be great, could be a struggle. I've started super safe with locked in starters throughout

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        "Bissouma suspended"
        He's not. He's served his time and is available.

        1. Tarby
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Apologies, I thought he was on a 3 match ban

          1. PompeyUpNorth!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            I’m sure it was 3 as well, but 2 games were in the cup but regardless of that he’s defo available which is great..

            1. Tarby
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              You're spot on, it was a 3 match ban but 2 games served in Carabao Cup. A lucky break for his owners there!

      2. hewittj1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Bissouma isn't suspended - it was a 1 match ban

    2. hewittj1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      bank it. Son fixtures tasty after the break

  4. Garlana
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Do we know who West Broms pen taker is? Im tempted by Pereira as a cheap option to enable pool double up or Ings up top. 6.4m to spend max.

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I dont think Matheus is the pen taker

    2. hewittj1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      whoever is the striker on the pitch

      1. Klaren
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Callum Robinson, their 1st striker, has never taken a penalty before (other than penalty shootouts). So very unlikely to take one, Pereira is more likely compared to him.

  5. Chilli Heatwave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Life is good as a villa fan right now 🙂 🙂

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      That's a seriously decent first team squad being assembled, there.

      1. El Presidente
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        At least this season they spent money on the right ºplayers....

    2. Joey Tribbiani
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Before Martinez, Watkins and Grealish new deal I was doubting your survival but looking better now

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, they won't struggle. Lower-mid table, I'd say. Somewhere around 13th. In FPL terms that makes them a team full of nicely-priced assets.

  6. No Salah
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Bottomed, Team is a mess specially without any city:

    McCarthy
    TAA Robbo Justin
    Bruno Son* Podence* Hames
    Werner* DCL Jimmy

    4.0 Davies Bissouma Mitchell

    Injuries and potential worries *

    1FT, 1.3 ITB

    Son + Werner > KDB + Maupay for -4?

    Any Better suggestions please?

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just Son to Mahrez

  7. El Presidente
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Would you do Rodriguez to KDB for a -4? Have DCL as well

    1. manu4life99
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. ritzyd
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

  8. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Guys can you help me out

    Ryan, Button
    TAA, Justin, Dallas, Dunne, Ferguson
    Salah, Sterling, Son, JRod, Zaha
    Jimenez, Mitrović, Wickham

    Would you do Son and Wickham to Barnes and DCL for -8? If not, what should I do? Maybe Wickham for Callum Robinson?

  9. Bagayokeso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Saiss & Burke OR Dunne & Podence?

    if podence is fit of course

  10. hewittj1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Is Son's price now locked from dropping as he is now red flagged?

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      no, just needs more transfers for price drop

  11. No Kane No Gain
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Not enough respect put on Vardy’s name. Top scorer this season, top scorer last season, and wasn’t far off being top the season before!

    2 decent home games incoming, both manager and player said he will be fine for weekend.

    Why is he not in many teams?!

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      0.5 too expensive?
      Actually people were tipping Foxes to struggle with their injury crisis. It's Brendan who didn't get enough respect, if anything.

    2. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      There are so many good (expensive) options in the game this season... doesnt surprise me at all. Look at % ownership, there are 47/48 players with double digit ownership... crazy...

    3. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Plus he scored a lot of pens and he has low % of shots in the box and atempts on goal

    4. Joey Tribbiani
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Too many other expensive options that I want, if he was 9mil I might have transferred him in this week, just cant stretch to a 10mil forward

  12. joker14
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A: Vardy, Zaha, Pereira, Digne
    B: Ings/Jimenez, Fernandes, Podence/Klich, Lamptey

    Comments please 🙂

    1. 2OLEgend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B with Jimenez and Podence imo

  13. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Guys can you help me out

    Ryan, Button
    TAA, Justin, Dallas, Dunne, Ferguson
    Salah, Sterling, Son, JRod, Zaha
    Jimenez, Mitrović, Wickham

    Would you do Son and Wickham to Barnes and DCL for -8? If not, what should I do? Maybe Wickham for Callum Robinson ?

  14. fpork
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Son->Rashford or Mahrez?

    1. Milk Milk Lemonade
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mahrez for me. I think his numbers are fantastic whenever he gets minutes + you can bank that City are definitely going to rebound in a big way after last week

  15. manu4life99
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) Mitro > Jimi
    B) Bissouma > Barnes (bench Mitro)
    C) Werner > Jimi/Vardy
    D) Hold

    McCarthy
    TAA Justin KWP
    Salah KDB Rodriguez Podence
    Werner Mitro DCL

    steer mitchell bissouma dallas

  16. stephenpower130
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Going into GW1, Werner was on my mind but was never hugely in contention to get into my team. I just thought the likes of Kane, Ings and Jimenez who are +/- 1M from Werner were much better options. The three of them are premier league proven players who you know who can return on a regular basis, while we had no data on Werner who came from a completely different league. Even if Werner hit the ground running I could of easily brought him in with a transfer early on. Same goes for Havertz, I wouldn't get him in until I had premier league data. I started off with Kane and Ings which has rewarded me with 50 points between them in 3 GW's. Just my play style really, I don't like punting on players with no data but if they do start off with a good run of form I will have a plan to get them in.

    1. HTL
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Humble brag?

      1. stephenpower130
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not at all. Just giving my opinion on what I thought was the best option going into GW1 in terms of unknown players. As much as I am happy with my forward pair of Kane and Ings people who started off with DCL and Vardy have jumped me.

  17. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who gets the C?

    A - Jimmi
    B - Ings
    C - KDB
    D - Werner

    1. BigCoupes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ings

  18. Well you know, Triffic
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Werner - Don't buy, don't sell.

    1. MSTRKRFTSMN
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Counterintuitive but agreed

    2. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I agree until I see Jimmy's next fixture(s). Still an owner however.

  19. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    McCarthy
    TAA, Saiss, Justin, Lewis
    Salah, KDB (c) J.Rod
    Martial, Jimenez, Wilson

    Forster, Bissouma, Ayling, Reed

    1.5m ITB
    Have already shipped Werner -> Jimenez.

    Best option for a -4 ?
    A) Martial -> Ings
    B) Wilson -> DCL
    C) Reed -> Trossard
    D) Hold.

    Thanks guys.

  20. Well you know, Triffic
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    The point is Chelsea are not playing to Werner's strengths and at present, from an FPL perspective he is a glorified winger with minimal goal threat if you compare his runs and positions from wide to Son, Salah, Mane, Rashford, Greenwood and co.

    His potential will be unlocked when they start putting him through the middle and Ziyech is fit again. At the moment there is 0 creativity with Kante and Kovacic. Mount and Abraham are not good passers either. The only one who can spot his runs are Jorginho.

    1. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      You put it perfectly.

      Still an owner and still thinking if I should save ft this week. Saving would be quite easy decision despite your rationale if Jimmy didnt have the dream fixture next and really good ones after that as well.

  21. BinManJack
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    pick one to bench
    a) James (PALACE)
    b) Justin (WEST HAM)
    c) Saiss (FULHAM)

    1. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Play all. What is your xi otherwise?

  22. RoyRedDevils
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Team:
    McCarthy
    Walker/Digne J.Gomez Justin Vinagre
    Havertz Sterling Mane
    Lewin Jimenez Vardy
    Gotta be 70 plus points right??
    Should I drop from walker to 4.5m defender to put robo instead of gomez?

    1. stu92
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes to Robbo. No to 70 points.

  23. DOGS
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Should i go Werner > DCL?

  24. stu92
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is this worth a wildcard after the international break?

    McCarthy - Nyland*
    TAA - Robbo - Semedo - Holding - Johnson*
    KDB - Bruno - Rodriguez* - Pereira - Soucek
    Jimenez - Martial* - Davis*

    1. Want to upgrade Nyland to Martinez/Ryan and potentially rotate goalies
    2. Johnson & Davis are poor 4.0/4.5 selections, Dunne & Brewster are better shouts I think
    3. Could do Martial & Davis to DCL & Maupay alternatively
    4. Not convinced yet by Rodriguez, may be best player in any given game but will he be best points/£ value?

  25. Jabler79
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Would appreciate some advice. My current team:
    Ryan Walton
    TAA Dier Taylor KWP Mitchell
    KDB Fernandes Pereira ASM Bissouma
    Werner Jiminez Ings

    Should I:
    A) move Dier to Castagne for -4
    B) move ASM for Podence / Foden for -4
    C) hold

  26. JohnnyRev7
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Have various WC drafts evolving but stuck on one question:

    Lamptey (4.6) or one of Ayling/Dallas (4.5) for the long run.

    I'm tempted by a LEE defender.

    Thoughts?

  27. Ray In Bruges.
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA KWP Justin (Vinagre, Mitchell)
    Fernandes JRod KDB Traore (ASM)
    Jimenez Ings DCL

    G2G?