634x258 Moving Target
22 June 2012 644 comments
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Our new series of articles focussing on Fantasy targets moving within the Premier League kicked off with a look at West Brom’s new boss Steve Clarke yesterday. Continuing in the same vein this afternoon, we run the rule over the new man in charge at Anfield, Brendan Rodgers.

Following the dismissal of Director of Football Damien Comolli and manager Kenny Dalglish, the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, have reassessed their “moneyball” approach after spending vast sums of cash the previous summer in an attempt to secure Champions League football. After being linked with the likes of Louis Van Gaal, Andre Villas-Boas and Roberto Martinez, the Reds have opted for one of the most promising managers in the British game as they seek to re-establish the club as a top-flight force after a dismal eighth place finish ultimately led to Dalglish’s sacking.

The former Swansea boss arrived with a ringing endorsement from club owner John W Henry, who summed up just why he was regarded as the perfect candidate for the Anfield vacancy:

Brendan’s comprehensive football philosophy is perfectly aligned with those at the club and those soon to join the club. He was the first choice unanimously among them and he had no hesitation at all in embracing exactly what we want to try to build at Liverpool…we firmly believe that the direction the club is heading in will lead to Premier League championships.

The History

The Liverpool job is Rodgers’ fourth in the past four years. Having previously been in charge of Reading’s youth set-up and the Chelsea reserves, his first role as a number one came back in 2008 at Watford. The Irishman guided the Hornets to 13th place in the Championship before agreeing to return to Reading as first-team manager a year later, but a disastrous run of form saw him part company with the club just halfway through his first term at the helm.

Rodgers spent seven months on the managerial sidelines before Swansea came calling in July 2010. Handed the chance to build on a style of possession-based football established by Roberto Martinez, he guided the club into the top-flight at the first attempt with a 4-2 play-off final win over Reading. Rodgers remained true to his 4-3-3 passing game ethos and was rewarded with an 11th place finish last season, with 14 clean sheets accrued over the course of the campaign. At home, in particular, his side were a regular source of defensive points for Fantasy managers, with nine clean sheets compared to just five on the road; the Liberty Stadium also witnessed wins over the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and City, and draws against Chelsea and Spurs.

The Previous Regime

The Carling Cup may be sitting in the trophy room but that one piece of silverware can’t disguise the fact that Liverpool were a disappointment last term. A shoot-out win over Cardiff in late February delivered the club’s first trophy in six years but, while the Reds also reached the FA Cup Final, they failed miserably in the league.

The Anfield faithful witnessed a mere six home wins under Kenny Dalglish – a record no better than relegated Blackburn. At both ends of the pitch they frustrated Fantasy managers, returning just five clean sheets and finding the net on 24 occasions. On the road, Liverpool lost 10 times under Dalglish in 2011/12; the same number as Wolves and just one less than Steve Kean’s outfit. Defensively, they were a little more solid than at home, accruing seven clean sheets but, going forward, scored 23 goals – the same tally as relegated Bolton.

The Season Ahead

Bearing in mind he has just replaced a Liverpool legend, Rodgers will be keen to appease the red half of Merseyside as he steps into the breach. One needs only to look at Roy Hodgson’s failure to win over the Liverpool support as an example of how it can all go wrong but, already, Rodgers seems to be making all the right noises – his press conference unveiling afforded the Irishman a chance to impress and he wasted little time in emphasising his approach to the job:

The way I want to play here is the Liverpool way. The history and tradition of this club has been about offensive football, attacking football – but always with discipline. The game will be based around what Liverpool are about, which is control, dominating games with the ball, working very hard when you haven’t got the ball and keeping the game as simple as possible. Of course I’ll bring in a certain philosophy which I’m attached to but the principles of your game are based around the players. For me the best thing about the game other than scoring goals is having the football, and that’ll be the idea and the fundamentals we’ll work on – but they are playing ultimately to win.

At the back, Rodgers will be relieved to hear Daniel Agger has confirmed he is more than happy at the club and intends to extend his stay, though recent transfer rumours have suggested Martin Skrtel and Pepe Reina may be subject to interest from Man City and AC Milan respectively.

In terms of transfer targets, it’s been well-publicised that Rodgers has struck up an agreement with Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins which prevents him from making a move for any Swansea player for the next 12 months. This, of course, does not apply to Gylfi Sigurdsson – despite having an agreement in place to move to the Liberty Stadium, nothing has yet been signed and the Hoffenheim midfielder now looks favourite to follow the Irishman to Anfield, having excelled under his stewardship at Reading and Swansea.

Rodgers has been cagey on the subject of transfer targets as he seeks to mould Liverpool into a team of his own making. Sigurdsson, clearly, was on his mind though when he spoke of what is required to step the club forward in the season ahead:

There are a few players who can come in and improve the group straight away. I know what we’ve got, more or less, in the squad, but I also know there are a couple of signings that could really improve what we do. I know the types of player I need to bring here to make us function well and that’s something myself, the club and the board will look at. That’s something we’ll work together on over the course of the summer and hopefully we can get one or two in.

From a Fantasy perspective, Sigurdsson would be a significant asset next time round if a move to Anfield transpires. While there is no doubt his Fantasy Premier League (FPL) price would rise substantially, an average of 5.7 points per game in 2011/12 following his January loan move was the highest of any midfielder in the game – even a cost of 9.0, for example, would look value for money if he can scale similar heights.

At the back, Liverpool’s assets may well be earmarked by many if Rodgers can mirror the same sort of defensive returns achieved by Swansea last time round, while Steven Gerrard could well be set for a resurgence if he brings his Euro 2012 form to the table. Maybe the most intriguing aspect of Rodgers’ approach is how this will affect Luis Suarez. The Uruguayan was a massive disappointment in the previous season, though hinted at an upturn in form by producing attacking returns in four of his last five home games. A role on the left wing, cutting inside onto his more favoured right foot may afford Suarez more freedom to wreak havoc if Rodgers decides to select Andy Carroll as the lone forward in his 4-3-3.

With so many questions still unanswered over Liverpool’s prospects heading into next season, perhaps Monday’s fixture list has done Fantasy managers a favour. Their first three home games sees City, Arsenal and United all roll up to Anfield and, with an opening day trip to West Brom, in addition to visits to Sunderland and Norwich in the first six, their schedule could hardly be trickier. Chances are, then, the majority will be comfortable with little Reds’ investment to begin with, giving us time to assess their form and Fantasy prospects before their schedule takes a turn for the good.

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  1. FPL Daniel
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    So what's everybody plans for the w/e? Weekend finally 😛 http://isitfriday.org/

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Ok no problem whole w/e 4 me only 😉

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  2. Gigging Order
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    If Klose does indeed start, then captaining Gomez should not definitely be out of the question.

    Depends on whether you think he can score against the Greek defence in the inevitable 20 minutes he will get.

    Ok, it is unlikely he will score more than one, but it could be the ultimate differential!

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
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      I agree. To be considered.

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      1. Gigging Order
        • 14 Years
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        Yep, he is still on my shortlist. Not ruling it out yet.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
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          So glad right now I learnt from previous mistakes and kept (C) on Ronaldo until the teamsheets

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          1. Gigging Order
            • 14 Years
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            Same here! 🙂

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      2. FPL Daniel
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hey Denmark's captain, what's up. Are you ready for the big battle against the Soviets?

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Haha. Me and Light Knight are joint captains. The battle has already started! We are preparing to strike back...

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    2. roscola
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hey GO - I missed your reply yesterday. Are you The Jelavic Road?

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      1. Gigging Order
        • 14 Years
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        No, I am Euro Having a Laugh, got told you were The Manidoodles?

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        1. roscola
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          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I am indeed the Manidoodles. Have I read the thing wrong? * goes away to check *

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        2. roscola
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          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Hmmm. Are we talking about the same league? In the DONETSK/ETC ETC ETC H2H league, you're up against The Anorak's Anorak (and you have a healthy little lead).

          Is that not the one?

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          1. Gigging Order
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            No, the BUG cup is the spreadsheet one (on google docs)

            My understanding is that is the main cup? I may be mistaken...

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            1. roscola
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              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              ummmm .... I must have missed a big conversation. What league is that (and how come I'm in it without realising?)

              Do you have a link?

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              1. Gigging Order
                • 14 Years
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                You are in the quarterfinals!!!

                Whats your email? I will send you it.

                Not sure if Doos or Ginkapo would be happy with me posting everyones details on here....!

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                1. roscola
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                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Hahhahah This is very embarrassing. The best I've ever done at something on this site and I didn't even realise it 😳

                  rosco.aitken@gmail.com

                  Thanks man, appreciate it

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                  1. isacki: full casual
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                    LOL!!! Legend.

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  3. Henry Hill
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    All the major German Media outlets say German front 3 is rested, I hope they are underestimating Greece and they cause biggest shock of the tournament.

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
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      lets so, then england has a great chance of winning it!

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
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      even germanys stand ins will be more than enough to overpower the greeks

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
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      even if they play without the front 3, German will still win

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  4. Messi & fabregas
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    hello gents

    sorry if being asked before, any dates set for the FPL to add the teams/players?

    thanks

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    1. Frazek
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Mid-July likely, Harris.

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      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanks frazek, have a nice weekend

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    2. heco87
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      Was up on 20th July last year, about 10pm. -nerd alert-

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      1. Frazek
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        🙂

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      2. RedLightning
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        It was later than usual last season, because of all the software changes. The previous year, it started shortly after the end of the 2010 World Cup.

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    3. Derailed Bandwagon
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      Apart from last season, its been around 6th-12th July.

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  5. isacki: full casual
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone reckon if the front three are rested, Germany will become more defensive and thus the CS chances improve?

    Or will Germany invite more pressure and the CS chances get worse?

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Remember its Greece
      The worst player on the German squad is better than the top player on the Greek

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
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        I'm getting paranoid Freshy, I have 3 x German defensive coverage! 😀

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        1. Freshy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Just Neuer and Boat for me

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            That's me plus Hummels. Went with Boateng despite the bladdy Bender talk. Surely they would not add Bender over Boateng to the gambles?

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            1. Freshy
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              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Boat needs a game

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  6. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hands up if the German newspapers have changed your plans for your 7:00-7:45 slot on Friday night

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I am about to quickly check how easy a sub or (c) change will be to push through on my mobile. 🙂

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Been there done that 😉

        Health warning: I cannot log in to the McDonald's site directly on my Android phone. I have to go through the 'Forgotten Password' dialog, get them to send me a reset password email, then reset it from my phone. This causes me to be logged in on my phone. Do this in advance!

        Also, use the red/green button on the top right to transfer players around - dragging doesn't work.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I'll check it Isacki, that'll be top advice if mine's the same.

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        2. heco87
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Me too, really weird.

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        3. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Checked and my Android is the same. A right palaver. Hopefully Yogi comes clean before I leave work around 6pm.

          Thanks for that tip Isacki.

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        4. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          No probs, UEFA just had to use the lamest login facility ever didn't they?

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          1. Frazek
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            We should all demand a free WC. 🙂

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  7. Red-United
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone here play the Sky euro 2012 game?

    Was wondering if it is still possible to swap Gomez > Klose before the game starts?

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    1. Coldplay
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Don't play the game, but according to posts on here I guess you can.

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  8. Dirty Dhalsim
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Wow just heard the German front line changes - Gomez owners you think you are in a bad situation?, I'm totally screwed by having Podolski & Muller.

    Hope they get punished for this unashamed arrogance/complacency. Will now be cheering on the Greeks 100%.

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      +1 If they're stupid enough to rest their most threating front 3 then the deserve to lose. It shows a lack of respect for the opponent.

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  9. Conrad.
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    I'm playing a game where I can change lineups up until kickoff. If Reus starts, should I get him in for Xabi? I'll have either one for the rest of the tourney, so part of the decision lies with Reus' ability to keep a starting job too...thoughts?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If Reus starts I'd have him. Seriously thinking of him for the SFs, if he plays well he may surely keep his place?

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    2. Conrad.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      thats the hope. it's a draft-style (with free agents who weren't drafted) league, and some other owner has Schurrle and Miro, so im hoping to counter that with Reus...i'd hate it if he went back to the bench, and someone scooped Xabi in the meantime.

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  10. Tmel
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Quick straw poll: how many active players are you planning on taking to the SFs?

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    1. Freshy
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      11

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      1. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        12...if I can

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      2. patshaw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1 (Don't mean 12)

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    2. Frazek
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      12 seems optimal to me, 13 for more cautious players, 11 if you're a fearless freak, like Freshy.

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      11

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    4. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I was planning on 12, but it's proving difficult.

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      1. Tmel
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        No way 13 can be done well I don't think. Torn between sticking with 12 or doing Pilar > Makos before deadline. If its a Spain v Germany final it's going to be so hard unless you just have 11

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      Depends entirely on the budget and hence who makes it through. Get back to you.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hey Denmark look above 😀

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Or not as the case may be 😀

          Replied above

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    6. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      11/12

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      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Probably 12 - Lopez at 4.4 gives me the option of going 11 and only sacricing an extra .4 over putting in a Greek tonight. Obviously if Greece win tonight there might be a re-think 🙂

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i have tzoras/limbersky/maniatias/makos/darida...5x4.0 players 😉

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    7. Coldplay
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      12

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    8. Camzy
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      12

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    9. satsumo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      12, atm will be going for 1 non-player in each position

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  11. Sess!
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    I'm gonna switch my (C) to gomez, he's gonna score a hat-trick, so easy......oh wait

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i would be so diappointed if klose starts so long as he gets a hattrick..had fiver on germany/klose double before it started 40/1....clutching 😉

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        *wouldnt

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      2. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If he bags a hatt-trick then you'd be looking good, but I reckon they'll prob knick it 1-0 or 2-0. Glad I invested in 3 german def. Surely they'll at least still get a CS? Nani and Gomez taking two of my striking slots....great stuff!

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          hard to see greeks scoring unless germany get complacement which i cant see..unluck with nani punt he came close to scoring couple yesterday

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  12. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    ok, so if, as it appears likely, Gomez is benched who are people captaining tonight, or are they sticking with CR7?

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hummels or Badstuber, Silva tomorrow and finally a choice between Gerrard or Pirlo.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hummels, Alba and one of Gerrard, Pirlo or Rooney.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Switching to Badstuber.

      Keep in mind all of the Portuguese defenders outscored Ronaldo yesterday.. 7 points, and I'll probably stick.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I don't own Badstuber due to him carrying a yellow. Likely to be Hummels for me. Seemed eager to carry the ball v Denmark, and Greece look vulnerable at set-pieces

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        1. Camzy
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          He's a differential in my cup matchup. I figure the yellow card risk can be a bonus not a hindrance. It means he'll likely know what's at stake too, so will be extra careful not to get another booking, whereas Boateng will have no hesitancy to just fly in and pick one up knowing it won't matter.

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      2. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Badsturber will score so u r in good position

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      3. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        yes but are the german defenders going to recover many balls with the greek attack?...at least czechs were a threat to portugals defence

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          They weren't really a threat.

          I think they will. Especially if Germany score early in which case the Greeks will be forced into attack, and as the game gets late, they'll get desperate, and all those long balls into the box will be met by Hummels and Badstuber who both sit pretty in my team.

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            ^^this^^

            They barely had a shot in anger, Patricio made no saves whatsoever, yet all Portugese defenders got at least 5rbs. Plenty of rbs to be had.

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          2. Optimus.
            • 14 Years
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            i have 2 german defenders myself so im hopefull too but not for much apart from cs

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          3. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
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            Yep. Czechs were no threat.

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    3. WorldCupDanB
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ozil

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  13. Coldplay
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So is Gebre Selassie's move to Werder Bremen confirmed? No PL move for him then?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      All Haile Bremen.

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  14. Demí
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    F*ck

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      'sup?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'm guessing it's Gomez related

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        1. Frazek
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          • 14 Years
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          Or that CG's thunder has been stolen by Bild. 🙂

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        2. Conrad.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          haha, maybe so.

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      2. Demí
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Just back from Uni... seeing the news about Gomez, Podolski and Muller 😯

        Don't mind that he's dropped for the ff game, but slightly peeved i didn't wait till the lineups to bet on him too. *facepalm*

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        1. Conrad.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          eek. maybe get in a bet on Klose right now to cancel it out? 😉

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        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Reus anytime at 11.5... gift!

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          1. Conrad.
            • 14 Years
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            +1.

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          2. heroicxv
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            where is that at? best i can see is 3.5

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
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              I got it on betfair as soon as PB posted the news about the german forwards

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              1. heroicxv
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                smooth move

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                1. heroicxv
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  you should lay it off, lock in a large profit

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              2. beric
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Well done. 2/1 now on PP

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                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 16 Years
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                  yep, been battered down to about 3.5 now on betfair too

                  http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=105953051&ex=1&origin=MRL

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    2. Optimus.
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      you have muller and podolski?

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    3. Conrad.
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      😆

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    4. phoenix737
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      hey demigod.... u got the line ups yet??

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  15. The Bandit
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Reports say Italy will go with a 4-3-1-2 formation, is this good or bad news for Balzaretti owners?

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    1. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      better news. Three at the back is bad news.

      Likely to be

      Abate Barzagli Bonucci Balzaretti

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
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        Ta 🙂

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      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Yeah it's logical to go 4 at the back against England's 4-4-1-1

        With 3 at the back, they'd have a center back surplus and get overloaded on the wings. Now, they can trust Barzagli and Bonucci to keep Welbeck quiet, and stick Motta on Rooney.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
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          If it really was a 4-4-1-1, but from watching recently England games I don't actually see that man in the hole. There appears to be little link between midfield and forwards, just a yawning gulf most passes can't cross. I'd say it works out closer to 4-4-2 in practice. In theory, that could put their back 4 up against Welbeck, Rooney, Young and Milner/Walcott without a spare man.

          I'm sure Rooney will have to play deeper though, this game, we can't afford losing midfield to them.

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  16. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Captain:

    A) Swein
    B) Hummels
    C) Gomez

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Wait for lineups.

      If all play:

      Gomez
      Schweinsteiger
      Hummels

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      1. Coldplay
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        ^This

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      2. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Who do you prefer between Hummels and Badstuber, Camzy?

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        1. Coldplay
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Hummels, if you don't mind me answering the question.

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        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Hummels, but I'm going to captain Badstuber if Gomez doesn't start as a cup differential.

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        3. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks both. I might go Badstuber aswell, since many rivals have Hummels. Probably not though.

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        4. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I ain't Camzy but I prefer Badstuber.

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          1. beric
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Its a close call I think, my ML leader has Badstuber, so I'll go Hummels I think. Thanks though 🙂

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      B of that lot given current info. Discussed above (convincingly) between JKIS/Cam-Shaft.

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hummels

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  17. Infinite Sheldon
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I really hope there's truth in the rumours Gomez won't start. I gambled on Podolski and don't have Gomez.

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The rumours are that neither of them are starting.

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Where is this rumour coming from? How can Podolski and Gomez not start or are you joking?

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Read the older posts, I didn't make it up. As a Gomez owner, I am also not happy.

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    2. HelloSidney
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I have Podolski too ad maybe it's wisful thinking but to me he seems the least likely to be rested as Muller hasn't done much and Gomez is easily replaced with Klose. I can't imagine they'll change their whole forward line.

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      1. Conrad.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Schurrle is just as good as Luka, imo.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      talk all 3 of gomez/muller/podolski could be rested

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      1. TwiggsJameson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        0-0 after exra time would be lovely.

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Yes it would.

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        2. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          id take that alright if gomez a non starter

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          1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            +1.

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    4. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      haha ,Podolski wont start as well

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  18. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If Loew did drop all three of his forwards he be slaughtered dor disrespecting the Greeks if they lost, can't see it myself... 😕

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The bookies think that's what happeining. FGS Odds:

      Gomez 3/1 Klose 7/2
      Pod 6/1 Reus 13/2
      Muller 8/1 Schurle 8/1

      Or they at least think its a very real possibility

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, but you gotta remember that odds for each market are automatically set in response to how much money is coming in. This reflects how people are thinking, not necessarily the bookies. There's no reason why they necessarily know much more than us 😉

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Good point. God, I hope Gomez starts.

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Merkel would send out her hitmen after Jogi

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    3. HelloSidney
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly - it's really silly and puts pressure on the team

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    4. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      true but it wouldnt be like hes doing a mick mc carthy though..at least he has decent replacements to call on who should easily do the job

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  19. Van Dal
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ronaldo or Messi?

    Messi is like poetry in motion football is like second nature to him like beethoven just in his blood. Everything he does is effortless love watching him play when hes on the ball he can beat anyone.

    Ronaldo is like a beautifull built well oiled machine. Like a buggati veron. He is a beast and puts in alot of effort hardwork determination etc. can produce moments of magic like messi but doesnt do it as efortless as Messi. Goes missing more often than messi.

    My vote goes to Messi he was just born with it whereas Ronaldo tries harder and is currently trying to get on Messi's level.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      +1 Pretty much hit it on the head.

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Messi>>>>>>>Ronaldo

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    3. Conrad.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      sounds about right. astute observations, chap.

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    4. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ronaldo just owns Messi

      unlike messi he is able to preform at international level with worst team than Messis Argentina

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Haha behave. Dunno if you saw Messi's hat trick vs Brazil recently?

        Messi - 70 caps, 26 goals
        Ronaldo - 94 caps, 35 goals

        I don't think there's much in it either way but I think it's ludicrous to suggest one is miles better than another and the international card is just not valid.

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Incidentally, that works out as a goals / games ratio of:

          Messi - 0.371
          Ronaldo - 0.372

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        2. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i dont buy hattricks in friendly matches

          he has svereal chanses to prove himself but he failed every single time

          1)how manny goals has he score at last world cup in africa?

          2)he is not even able to win copa america 🙂

          3)i would like to see how messi would preform in prem league

          i dont say that messi sucks cause he is obviouusly 2nd player on planet,but he is not good as ronaldo

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          1. heco87
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Messi was awesome in the last world cup, even if he didn't score the goals he set them all up for Higuain's hat trick.

            Messi will win Copa America before his time is up

            Me too. He'd be fricking amazing.

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        3. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          That was a Brazil olympics squad though (u-23s mostly). I think Ronaldo's achievement at international stage is better than messi's considering their teammates, similar to how ronaldo deserves the ballon d'or this year. But thats not saying messi is not world class or that there is a significant margin

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Things you need to think about...

        #1 Argentina >>>> Portugal? Actual evidence?

        #2 Messi isn't performing at international level? Ironically most people who say this are comparing with him being miles ahead of everyone at club level.

        #3 If you don't perform at international level it is impossible to be a great player?

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        1. Derailed Bandwagon
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          answer to #3: Yes because to be the best you have to perform on the biggest stage possible.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Is international the biggest stage? Money, fans and players actually might point in the club direction.

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      3. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        🙄
        You also think Barcelona aren't the best team in the world & RVP is poor?

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i dont think RVP is poor

          i just dont consider him as worldclass

          Barcelona is not the best team (this year) -Madrid owned them in la liga and Chelsa in CL

          simple as that

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          1. The Artist
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            if RVP isn't world-class, i begin to question the value of the term "world-class" in the first place. that is, as you are using it, forca.

            i mean, if someone tears up every defense in one of the world's top leagues over the course of 38 GWs and isn't world-class, surely the number of current players in the world that fit your definition can't take more than a single hand to count.

            that being the case, is it really necessary to have a term for a group of, say, 4-5 individuals out of millions playing the game and hundreds of thousands of those doing so professionally? i say those few should be called freaks or mutants, and RVP should be sitting right at the top of the world-class category.

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            1. The Artist
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              oops, sorry. hadn't read fully through the comments above by forca re: messi/ronaldo. had i done so, i wouldn't have wasted any time talking sense to the lad.

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        2. Van Dal
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          If this is true i shant waste my time arguing with him!

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            As each post comes in, an element of reality disappears on my monitor

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          2. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            see my replay above??

            everyone has their own opinions and my opinion is that Ronaldo is no 1 and messi no 2 best player in world at this moment

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      4. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        #4 A player's dribbling counts for nothing. It's all about stats?

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      5. Van Dal
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        How has Messi underperformed at int level. He played absolutely amazing last world cup was very very unlucky not to score. They both havent won in silverware internationally so you cant judge on that.

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        1. som3awy
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Ronaldo's achievements with Portugal are much better than Messi's.

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    5. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Messi. Ronaldo is fantastic at all the attacking aspects of the game you can quantify but Messi just has a genius about him when he plays that Ronaldo somehow lacks.

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      1. Van Dal
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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    6. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ronaldo for me. Proven in different leagues and is also a more balanced player than Messi. For example he is good in the air where as that is an area messi can improve on.

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      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I thought the "Ronaldo because of headers" debate was settled in the CL final when Messi scored one.

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        1. som3awy
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Really? Just cause he scored that header?

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I think the point is the headers debate is stupid. Just like the whole debate.

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  20. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What is all this news about Gomez, Podolski etc. lads?

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  21. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    will GOMEZ Start??

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    1. MICHELIN
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      50/50 according to bookies ^

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    2. Pinoche
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes.

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  22. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I wonder if we can make some money if the Schurrle, Reus, Klose rumours are wrong.

    Their odds have fallen quite a lot. Is it possible to get a bet than all three will FAIL to score? If all three fail to start, you've just got yourself a tasty bet you'd never have had otherwise.

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    1. Blind
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lay them on Betfair

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  23. Mak_Gold
      13 years, 5 months ago

      What time are the lineups out?

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      1. Podolskistan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        lol, same question @ same time

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      2. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I dunno, but i can't F*ckin' wait much longer man....

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        1. Conrad.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          haha

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    • Podolskistan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      when team lineup will be announced for Germany match

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    • Podolskistan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      my captain is CR7, is it wise to captain

      A) gomez (if he starts)
      B) schweisteiger

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If he starts A, if not, then B

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          And the official line-ups will be out latest an hour before kick off

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      2. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If Gomez starts then no doubt A.

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      3. Podolskistan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanx all

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    • isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      How big does this German lineup crisis have to get before they consider doing a scout article on it?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +10 😀

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    • emperikal
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      All this German news today is confusing. Surely if they were to rest these players and play their bench they would have done that against Denmark where all they required was a draw? They could receive major backlash if they fail to deliver!

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Agreed, the only thing I can think is that they want their squad as fit as possible for a tiring semi-final and possible extra-time against Italy/England

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        1. emperikal
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Thats nonsense. They could still sub the players off early once the result is in the bag!

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          1. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            i kinnda agree with possible benching Muller and Podolski cause they didnt preform at all

            but Gomez who score 3 goals to go at bench is just crazy

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          2. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            And all the hard work has been done...

            Who knows if it's true or not. There is a difference between starting and subbing on though.

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        2. ManUFan
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          5 days is surely enough time, when england/italy have 3 days

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    • Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      What the f*ck is going on?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        in short

        Reus , Klose and Shurrle COULD replace Gomez ,Podloski and Muuler

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Rumours, don't worry we've lived through many of them... 😉

        At least almost everyone has Gomez.

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        1. ManUFan
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          41.8% of people have gomez
          42.2% have ronaldo

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          1. roscola
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I think if you were able to look at active players those figures would shoot up.

            Everyone in the top 5 of my minileague have both those players but ownership drops off as you move further down the league.

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          2. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            We've been through this before, for the casual players yes, but the casual players aren't those you'll be fighting for rank against. It's the people on here.

            Ask a random bunch of people if they have Gomez here and I'm sure at least 8/10 will say yes. At the bare minimum.

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        2. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          But 12 beats 0 every day of the week.

          😀

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Yes... now not everyone waited to change their captaincy 😉

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      3. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Gomez to be rested as was RVP against Blackburn.

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        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Oh feck me....not again.

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          1. Pinoche
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            😆

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      4. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Possible german rotation.
        I am going to post the Valour post on the next page. Will you put it on the UEFA site?

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      5. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Rumour is that Spain will play in the Croatian team strip to proof to the world they can still lose and that the refs aren't letting them win.

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    • ManUFan
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      already changed my (C) to gomez, hopefully he starts
      all we have to do is wait for demi

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    • Christina.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I bet I know what Demi is doing at this very moment...

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      1. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        At the offices of Bild holding journos at gunpoint?

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        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          ..while he is getting ready to post the German line up with Klose starting on FFS.

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