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Dugout Discussion November 7

Jota leads line as £3.9m Johnson continues at right-back for West Ham

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In the final match of Gameweek 11, West Ham United host Liverpool at the London Stadium.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

West Ham are unchanged from the XI that beat Aston Villa 4-1 in Gameweek 10.

That means another start for budget defender Ben Johnson (£3.9m) at right-back, with Vladimir Coufal (£4.8m) again having to settle for a place on the bench.

Further forward, Jarrod Bowen (£6.3m), Said Benrahma (£6.4m) and Pablo Fornals (£6.0m) feature in David Moyes’ 4-2-3-1 formation, behind lone forward Michail Antonio (£8.2m).

As for Liverpool, Jurgen Klopp makes four changes from last weekend, with Joel Matip (£5.0m), Fabinho (£5.4m), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£5.8m) and Diogo Jota (£7.5m) replacing Ibrahima Konate (£5.1m), Naby Keita (£5.0m), Curtis Jones (£5.0m) and Roberto Firmino (£8.9m).

GAMEWEEK 11 LINE-UPS

West Ham XI: Fabianski, Johnson, Zouma, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Soucek, Rice, Bowen, Fornals, Benrahma, Antonio

Subs: Areola, Dawson, Coufal, Diop, Masuaku, Fredericks, Kral, Noble, Lanzini

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Henderson, Salah, Mane, Jota

Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Thiago, Minamino, Tsimikas, Origi, Phillips, Williams, Morton

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  1. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Kabak/Alisson PTSD

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  2. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Wow Virgil.

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  3. hustler7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    A) Smith Rowe or B) Gallagher

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    1. Kellz86
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      ESR > Gallagher

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      1. Tasty Jerk
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Clearly not. Better to have both anyway 🙂

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    2. _Ninja_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B looking at fixtures

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    3. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B) Very important to Palace's style, good for bonus

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    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B, been VERY fortunate as an ESR owner.

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    5. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      ESR keeps returning from very little opportunities, not sure how long he can keep it up

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    6. hustler7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks all B it is

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  4. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Virgil with a match saver!

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  5. mojoindojo
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Someone earlier on was patting himself on back for not getting TAA...

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Saw someone celebrating there's be no TAA haul due to the CS loss, as that was the only threat this match 😮

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      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah as a non-TAA owner I had a feeling that post was going to come back to bite.

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        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          That's why I only post self-jinxing posts 😛

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      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        That was me. In my view matching Livramento and White is not a haul.

        I'm still confused at how others are happy with this performance from a £7.7M defender. Their loss

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        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          If the match pans out as-is, only Salah and Cancelo have more points as him in the game (James tied).

          What are you smoking? #InDenial

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Its called value. Points per pound and he is nowhere near the top

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            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Value is important but the premium assets are all doing gash bar Salah.

              I have him and 3.6m ITB.

              He scores points and value isn't an issue in the grand scheme right now, not really.

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              1. Gubby-Allen
                • 2 Years
                2 years, 5 months ago

                That argument makes sense currently, as Ronaldo, Bruno and Lukaku are doing nothing. If they start getting the points which they should be then £ per point becomes more relevant that TAA is not currently in the Top 40 players.

                At any given time, three or four players in the overall top 10 do not have Trent, so you could do it.

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                1. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 years, 5 months ago

                  You should probably question the value that Lukaku/Ronaldo etc offer too, if you're asking it about Trent. His value more likely than not outscores theirs.

                  With everyone (currently) captaining Salah, the benefit of those other players dwindles.

                  If the situation changes then I agree. But that's also why I have 3.6m ITB right now if I need them...

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            2. TheBiffas
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              You're deluded.

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              1. Zimo
                • 5 Years
                2 years, 5 months ago

                Come on. No need for that. Back up your argument instead of saying shite

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                1. TheBiffas
                  • 3 Years
                  2 years, 5 months ago

                  Four upvotes say otherwise. This guy is talking shite and is clearly in the minority and won't listen to hazz's reasoning.

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            3. HashAttack
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              I think we need to target 25 points per million (per season) and it looks like all the 6m defenders should get 150 points. Trent is on target for 200 points - so performing better than 25 ppm

              10m players need to be hitting 250 points, 12m players need to hit 300 points - which suggests that there is only value in such players if they are made captain

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        2. AC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          As with all premium players depends on what you do with the extra cash.

          However you don’t need me to tell you that similar to James, Cancelo or Chillwell he’s a couple of 15 to 20 pointers in him per season.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            He does if Liverpool sort their defence out. If they do I will need to adjust my team.

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            1. AC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Alongside Vvd for me it’s the protection in front if Fabinho stays fit it makes a big difference.

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        3. Gubby-Allen
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I agree. Last week I had White. Rudiger and Livramento all Clean sheet, the week before the latter two got assists too. Livrament and White again this week, Rudiger unlucky.

          The last three weeks they scored 16, 21 and 17 so not having TAA has not been any issue.

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      3. RogDog_jimmy
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        That was me! Hahah.

        I’m certainly not celebrating not having TAA though. I WC’d while he was injured so made sense at the time.

        Still - no CS is better than a CS for me. Jammy free kick to be given but awesome finish.

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    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      11 over 15. I'll still take it

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  6. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Some tackle that

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  7. TomSaints
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Didn’t look like VVD got there then?

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Got where?

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      1. Weak Become Heros
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        What should have been a west ham pen at the end.

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  8. Random Name
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Bowen should be shooting first time

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  9. F4L
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Said Fornals, what a player Jamie!

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  10. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Only dead teams still have Antonio

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    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      not true

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I'm not dead yet but he is on my bench

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    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      because other striker just can't stop hauling right now 😛

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    4. Jars458
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Well I was 75k and still have Antonio. You trying a reserve jinx?

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    5. The Sociologist
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      There is such a thing as a bench you know.

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      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        8m on the bench wow

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    6. dshv
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Who is better than him ?

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    7. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      So dead wrong

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  11. Green Arrow
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Loved the TAA and Salah show. Now do Jota

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      "We don't do that here"

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  12. Randaxus
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    That is why

    1. You have TAA in your team 100% of the time
    2. You play TAA for 100% of the games

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    1. Gubby-Allen
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Two of the top 6 players overall do not have him.

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  13. TKC07
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Pick one mid
    A) ESR
    B) Jota
    C) Raph
    D) Son

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    1. Ninja Škrtel
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      c

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    2. JONALDINHO
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B for next 4/5

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      1. TKC07
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        AFCON starts around the time Firmino returns..

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        1. Speedu
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Is there concrete return date for firmino?
          Thought klopp just said weeks

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  14. Ninja Škrtel
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    sick of Vardy

    a. Jimenez
    b. Hwang
    c. keep

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    1. Sid1891
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      D something else

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      1. Ninja Škrtel
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        limited funds cause i'm bringing in Arnold as well. 7.8 to be exact

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        1. TKC07
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Wilson?

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    2. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Those are bad options too, just keep or change formation to 352/451/541

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    3. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Jimenez od Wilson

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      1. Pipermaru
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Or*

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    4. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      2 points instead of 1 this time. Gotta cherish those little things.

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    5. AD2110
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Switch to 352 and get Son?

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  15. jackruet
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Ben Johnson is really solid. The next livra?

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    1. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal in the background. i bad game and a change arrives

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  16. I am 42
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    cap Salah, has TAA

    who score will gain me more rank?

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    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      TAA

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    2. jackruet
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Trent

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    3. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      taa

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    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Trent

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    5. I am 42
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      thanks both

      TAA hat trick please

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      1. I am 42
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        thanks all

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    6. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      TAA

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  17. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Apart from Cancelo and James who else heavily owned has hurt my rank so much? Over tripled from 15k

    Foster
    TAA • Chilwell • Rudiger • Livra
    Salah • Jota • Raph
    Kane • Antonio • Toney
    (Sanchez, White, Sarr, Gilmour)

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    1. Esalman
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Look at livefpl for clues 😉

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        It doesn’t show me

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        1. Esalman
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Probably because of high traffic, just wait till the end of the game.

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    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure mate, team looks good, ESR and Gallagher but he's not particularly highly owned.

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Possibly

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    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Benched White?

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, who else could I have. Antonio possible but I didn’t fancy that tbh

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    4. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Cancelo was enough coupled with Ramsdale CS. Smith Rowe probably has decent ownership as well.

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah Ramsdale probs a decent shout. I got the pain of getting my keeper sent off and Newcastle not getting the chance to win 2-1 🙁 disgusting moment haha

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    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Did you play Foster over Sanchez this week?!

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        No that’s an old copy sorry. Was putting Foster in for next week

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    6. TKC07
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Cancelo, James

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      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah. Two I’d have got it I WC’d

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  18. WVA
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like I'm stuck with Ronnie and Vardy up top, how's this look though?

    Steele
    TAA Cancelo Chilwell James
    Salah Raphina Gallagher ESR
    Ronaldo Vardy
    Sanchez* Liv Siss Scar

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    1. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Vardy to Jesus

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      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        For a hit?

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        1. Zimo
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Why not. It'll be fun 🙂 until it isn't 😉

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  19. Esalman
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Only 3 designated forwards scored this week- Pukki Armstrong and Vydra.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Great point

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    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Whadaya mean designated?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Forwards in FPL

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        1. Zimo
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Ahh yes

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      2. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Classes as forwards on fpl

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    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Amazing isnt it!!

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      1. Esalman
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah. I guess British football has redefined what it means to be a forward.

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    4. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Luckily I have all 3

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    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Must the worst bucket in terms of value added per million?
      Every year I need to remind my self to go 4-5-1 or 3-5-2

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    6. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Wilson would have...

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  20. Muchentuchel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Going on full DEF tactic this season? Currently having TAA, Rüdiger, James, Livra and Duffy. Thinking about adding Cancelo for Duffy.
    Any thoughts?

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    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah I've been 4 at the back for a while,

      TAA Cancelo Chilwell James with Liv covering them

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  21. HD7
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I dont remember having so many poor optins in front. 5-3-2 feels so comfortable these days.

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    1. GE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      This

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    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Most of my budget is stuck up top with Ronaldo Vardy, so annoying but then all the good options are cheap!

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    3. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      541 even better

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  22. GE
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Shift to 4-5-1 or 5-4-1?

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      4 with an able Livra just so you don't fully commit the shift in funds.

      It'll all change again soon, remember when 3 premiums were needed?...

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      1. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        The template's still spinning on itself every two to three GWs. The GW12 template has already formed as people react to GWs 10 and 11 like they'll define the rest of the season, again

        I wonder what the GW14 template would look like. GW16+ *should* have Ronaldo...

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    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I'm on 5-3-2. Soon 4-4-2 since Livramento fixtures gonna get bad

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  23. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    What are concernded Antonio owners doing?

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    1. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping cuz he's the only option

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    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I was planning to sell him earlier to get funds for premiums like Kane, Auba or CR7. But now I have a feeling, that as long as he is fit and playing this well, I'll keep him and bench if needed.

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    3. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Not concerned.

      He was always going to have a quiet patch; depth is good enough to carry through to the sexy fixtures on the other side.

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  24. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    How is this WC team?

    Ramsdale Steele
    TAA Cancelo James Reguilon Livramento
    Salah Jota Raphinha Foden Son
    Antonio Hwang Kane

    Would mean hybrid 5-4-1, 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 systems

    Thanks

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    1. TeddiPonza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Kane is supposed to be a 4,5 m forward 🙂

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    2. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Hold up Kane & Son. Have you seen Spurs play?

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    3. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Wouldn’t like to choose your bench each weeks but looks generally good (although I wouldn’t bother with Kane right now - if going premium I’d prefer Ronaldo)

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  25. Riverside Red
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Does anyone else think that it was a blatant dive by Salah to earn the free kick for TTA's 'sensational' goal

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Streetwise Salah, been watching Kane recently.

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      1. Riverside Red
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Why no VAR

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        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Rules.

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    2. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No

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      1. Riverside Red
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        No bias here then

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    3. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Only you

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    4. We Go Again
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Rice stuck out his leg and impeded his movement. Clear foul

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      1. Riverside Red
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Not on the replay I was watching...Salah jumped like a salmon imo

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        1. We Go Again
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          From one angle it seemed like that but he definitely catches him.

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          1. Riverside Red
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Haven't seen the camera angle you refer to..was it on Liverpool TV because it certainly wasn't on Sky

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    5. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yep.

      He has no momentum in the direction in which he dived - so no reason to fall like he did.

      But they pay them a lot - so I’m not surprised. There was contact I suppose.

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  26. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Vardy decided to turn to dog dodo the very second Lukakus ankle went

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    1. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      So sad. My Vardy go blankety blank while ESR, White and Raphinha hauls.

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  27. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    LMS safety score currently 43 with autosubs and live bonus

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

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    1. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Furthest I've ever got

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  28. sminkypinky
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Who are you replacing Sanchez with?

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Steele.

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      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Who’s your other keeper?

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        1. tangtastic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I went with Sanchez + Steele, in case this happened in my gw4 WC

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          1. sminkypinky
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Clever

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    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Have Steele, so hopefully nobody. If I were, it would be either Guaita/McCarthy or Ramsdale though (probably between Ramsdale & Guaita in all honesty, not sure if want to doubt up on Saints defence as fixtures tougher soon.)

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      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for your opinion!

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    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Mc
      Rams
      Guita

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      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

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  29. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Kane and Son or Mbuemo and Toney? Not much in it…

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    1. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      2 points this week

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  30. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    What was Kane like today?

    Considering a WC to ship him out. My frontline looks poor now. Plus I want James, Cancelo and Foden.

    Foster
    TAA • Chilwell • Rudiger • Livra
    Salah • Jota • Raph
    Kane • Antonio • Toney
    (Sanchez, White, Sarr, Gilmour)

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