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In his latest article, three-time top 200 finisher Lateriser looks at the best defender replacements for Daniel Munoz (£6.1m) ahead of Gameweek 16.

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We received some pretty big news yesterday with regards to Daniel Munoz, who is expected to be out for over a month due to knee surgery.

“Dani Munoz has to undergo surgery, knee surgery. We will miss him for a few weeks.

“The prognosis is 4-6 weeks, that he should be ready to play. Always when you have to undergo a surgery, then you never know. I had a few in my career. That’s why we are always a little bit cautious. It doesn’t look so serious.” – Oliver Glasner on Daniel Munoz

There is a lot of Premier League football being played in the next four to six weeks, which makes him a definite sell in my books. Munoz is a fairly highly owned asset, so who do we look at as potential replacements?

NICO O’REILLY

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At the top of the pile for me has to be Nico O’Reilly (£5.2m). Manchester City have some decent fixtures coming up and are smelling a title challenge, sitting just two points behind Arsenal. I wouldn’t worry too much about rotation, as I think he’s very much first choice in that Manchester City team. Even if you were worried, positional rival Rayan Ait-Nouri (£5.7m) is off to the Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) as well.

Pep Guardiola has sung his praises multiple times, including yesterday when O’Reilly scored his first Champions League goal for Manchester City against Real Madrid.

“He’s top! Right now, apparently, he’s the left-back for the England national team”.

“He has incredible pace, he’s so intelligent. Yeah, he makes mistakes but he tries, and that is top”. – Pep Guardiola on Nico O’Reilly

Recently, Pep also last week spoke about his fitness and age, all while mocking Bernardo Silva (£6.2m)…

“He’s young, he’s not Bernardo, maybe, or another player where they are already grandfathers. He’s so young, recovers well, and we’ll see…” – Pep on whether Nico O’Reilly needs a rest

“He played at the [Club] World Cup and was really good, played the first game against Wolves, the second against Spurs, and after injured. And after came Nico [O’Reilly], and he’s performed really well. This is the only reason. No more than that.

“We’re really pleased with Rayan Ait-Nouri and I know he’s going to help, he came for a long time, he knows the Premier League, can play outside and inside, can play in different positions. But now, Nico is playing really good! And that is the only reason why…” – Pep Guardiola on Rayan Ait-Nouri’s lack of opportunities

When I watch O’Reilly play, I can’t help but think that the 15-pointer is going to come aty anytime as he parks himself inside the box next to Erling Haaland (£15.0m) multiple times during a game and he’s capable of points through multiple routes – making a driving run and assisting, making a driving run inside Jeremy Doku and scoring, clean sheet points and set-piece threat (he’s big guy!). He is sitting top for non-penalty expected goal involvement (NPxGI, 2.15) amongst defenders in the last six games, with eight shots in the box and six chances created (three of them ‘big’ ones) in that period.

JURRIEN TIMBER

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If you don’t already own Jurrien Timber (£6.5m), he’s a viable replacement.

It is worth noting that he wasn’t in the squad last night in the Champions League. It could probably just be rest/rotation but Arteta was his usual poker-face self.

“They both had issues from the weekend, both really bad kicks. For Jurrien, it was too early and for Ricci [Calafiori], we have to manage to see if he can do some minutes. [tonight]” – Mikel Arteta

It’s worth mentioning that Timber has been in training footage all week, so it could just be a breather. If you are going for the Dutchman, I’d wait until the press conference on Friday to see what Arteta has to say (I know, I know!).

Despite losing William Saliba (£6.0m) and Gabriel Magalhaes (£6.2m), Arsenal are still sitting top for expected goals conceded (xGC) in the last six matches. Saliba should be back soon, too.

If Timber is playing at centre-back, he has defensive contribution (DefCon) potential. If he is playing wide, he has attacking threat. A win-win.

VIRGIL VAN DIJK

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I would also look at Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m). While he has been a frustrating asset to own all this while, I do think Liverpool are showing improvement in their defensive numbers.

He has been unlucky not to score of late and Liverpool actually have the third-best xGC in the league in the last six Gameweeks.

The Reds have some really good fixtures on the horizon, including home games against Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leeds United and Burnley.

The whole Mohamed Salah (£14.0m) situation might galvanise the team, and I do expect them to be tight at the back.

EVERTON + FULHAM DEFENDERS

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If you are in the market for someone cheaper that could maybe allow upgrades in attack, I would look at DefCon monsters like Joachim Andersen (£4.6m), Michael Keane (£4.6m) and James Tarkowski (£5.4m). Both Fulham and Everton have some decent upcoming fixtures, while these three are reliable for both DefCon points and minutes. It simply comes down to which of the two teams fits your rotation at the back. Both teams sit in the top half for xGC in the last six matches, so are fairly reliable and predictable for clean sheets in the games you expect them to shut out the opposition.

It is worth mentioning that Brentford sit top of the Fixture Ticker until Gameweek 25, if you fancied Nathan Collins (£4.9m) or Sepp van den Berg (£4.5m) instead. However, I still think Fulham and Everton are better defences in general.


For more, we cover Free Hit options, how to best to use (or not use) your five free transfers and plenty more besides on this week’s episode of The FPL Wire, which you can view below:

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  1. Sz21
    • 14 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Made 3 moves. Still have my 1st WC (probably for GW 19 now)
    Any moves you'd do here in this position?
    Should I just activate the WC now and tru to save the FT's for later?

    Sanchez.
    Timber, Virgil, O'Reilly, Andersen.
    Saka (c), Foden, Bruno G, Bruno F.
    Thiago, Haaland.
    Dubravka, Esteve, Guiu, Anderson.
    2ft's, 0.8m

  2. ronaldez
    • 3 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    It’s interesting note that no Palace defenders have been recommended to replace Munoz. Guehi and Richards have been brilliant this season!

    Who will play in Munoz’s position?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Surely looking at GW15 Palace lineup will answer your question...

    2. FPL Scoop
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Clyne

    3. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Clyne and Canvot probably rotate

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        Canvot - 0 mins at RB/RWB in his career

        Drakes-Thomas will likely deputies for Clyne.

        "Now operating primarily as an attack-minded wing-back, Drakes-Thomas has become a constant threat on the flank."
        https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/first-team/who-are-joel-drakes-thomas-benji-casey-the-academy-stars-named-in-tonights-squad-vs-shelbourne-fc/

        1. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          How are you such an oracle with every single team Tony? You should be paid by this site, you offer more value than the articles.

    4. White Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Does seem to be an oversight in the article. Richards at 4.6 is still under-priced.

      1. Tommy Template
        • 11 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Surely the Munoz news makes them a much worse team in both boxes. Can Clyne cope with the schedule they've got given he's barely been playing football of any sort for a few years now

        1. White Pony
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          Yeah it probably does, but if you're going to talk about Everton and Fulham then surely worth mentioning Palace too.

          But I am looking to shift Mateta now personally, as well as Munoz.

    5. Ausman
      • 2 Years
      3 days, 7 hours ago

      Borna Sosa has been back training for the past few weeks and is a wing back. Only problem is Sosa plays on the left, the same as Tyrick Mitchell and both are predominatly left footed. See how they line up tonight.

  3. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Wasn’t planning on using more then 2 transfers this week however I have the exact money for the below, what do you think?
    Senesi / Munoz / mbuemo / mateta > hincapie / Andersen/ foden & Ekitike.

    Leaves me with
    Sanchez
    VVD / hincapie / o’Reilly / Andersen
    Fernandes / Saka / foden
    Haaland / Ekitike / Thiago

    Dubravka / KDH / minteh / Mukiele

  4. andy78
    • 2 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Bench one:
    A) Cash(WHU, a)
    B) Andersen(Bur, a)
    C) Gvardiol(Cry, a)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      B

    2. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      Tough but I’d go B

  5. Shark Team
    • 8 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Predict who scores more over these fixtures:
    A) Guehi vs LEE(A), TOT(H), FUL(H)
    B) O'Reilly vs WHU(H), NFO(A), SUN(A)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Guehi

    2. Over Midwicket
      • 13 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      The answer is always Guehi

  6. Ask Yourself
    • 9 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Using all 5 of my moves for this team. Good enough ? Mukiele to sub in if Timber out x

    Raya
    Timber* VVD O’Reilly
    Saka Bruno Foden Semenyo Anderson
    Haaland Thiago

    Dubravka Mukiele Guiu Clyne

  7. MetallicaJack93
    • 2 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Munoz to:

    A. O'Reilly
    B. Chalobah
    C. Cash

    Set and forget for now in back 3 alongside Timber and Andersen

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Guehi

      1. MetallicaJack93
        • 2 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Got Guehi on the bench - who out of those 3?

        1. MetallicaJack93
          • 2 Years
          3 days, 9 hours ago

          Will play Guehi actually

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • 9 Years
            3 days, 9 hours ago

            Chalobah then I think - can see Ake getting minutes at LB

  8. Miguel Sanchez
    • 9 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Have Raya, sell Tarkowski for Hincapie or save FT?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      You'll like want Tark from 18 onwards

  9. Bradleyfarrell
    • 3 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Want to try fit Palmer and Raya into my team but not sure who to else to shift. Minteh and Petrovic > Palmer and Raya leaves me needing 4.1m to fit them both.

    Petrovic
    Timber - Chalobah - Gvardiol
    Saka - Minteh - Semenyo - Foden
    Haaland - Woltemade - Thiago

    Dubravka - King - Reinildo - Gudmundsson

  10. Thursday's Press Conference Times
    Skonto Rigga
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Good morning, all, here are my three best Quincy and Loose Women replacements (ie press conferences you can watch in place of afternoon TV):

    1.30pm - Silva (FUL)
    2pm - Andrews (BRE), Parker (BUR)

    Times in GMT and come from Sky Sports. Will update this with any others that may be belatedly added.

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      Not sure if it's true, but I heard there's no presser from Howe tomorrow. I'm guessing there will be embargoed quotes from the post Leverkusen presser.

      1. Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        That's true, Hairy! I was watching the post-match presser last night and they were doing a Sunderland section straight after. Embargoed, as you say.

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 10 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          Will be interesting to see if Andrews gives any indication of Lewis-Potter getting a start in place of Schade this week. Not sure if Reis Nelson is still out.

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 6 hours ago

      Can't beat a bit of Four in a Bed personally.

  11. Von Lipwig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    2m itb, 5 FTs... I'm alittle lost. when i start tinckering i spend all 5... 2 questions?

    1) Semenyo has been terrible FPL wise, but is he that bad?
    2) Who the hell is the best replacement for enzo? Bruno G? Minteh? Gakpo? Cunha? Don't really like any.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Semenyo is a great asset.

      Bruno G

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • 9 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        This is the way

    2. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      but I don't have saka... Does that change the equation. Semenyo could be Saka

      1. Von Lipwig
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        A) Enzo to Bruno G, and keep Semenyo?
        B) Enzo to Bruno G, Semenyo to Saka, Wolt to Raul

    3. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      1. Semenyo has been a bit unlucky since Evanilson turns into a drunk donkey when trying to score from his assists. With the 5fts I still decided to sell him since I needed funds elsewhere.
      2. With Salah now out of the squad I like Szoboslai also as an option. Likely to play as the #10. From the options you have listed I like BrunoG the most

  12. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Start one…

    A. Guehi
    B. O’Reilly
    C. Senesi

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      B

    2. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Huh? B for sure

  13. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Best ars def for this week?

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Hinci or Timby

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Unsure on timbers fitness?
        Cheers

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Ben White

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Cheers

    3. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Ben W

    4. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      bw

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Cheers

  14. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    2ft and 0.0itb. Good to go? I guess Timber is a keep unless Arteta comes out and says he is out for multiple weeks.

    Raya
    VVD Timber Andersen
    Saka Bruno Foden BrunoG Anderson
    Haaland Thiago

    Dubravka; Rodon, Richards, Guiu

  15. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 9 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Muñoz-> Guehi?

    Petrovic Dubravka
    xxx O'Reilly Chalobah Hincapie Richards

    Palace decimated with injuries, already have Richards
    But I think I'd want Guehi long term anyway?

    Would be first sub this week with Richards second

  16. Von Lipwig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    A) Enzo to Bruno G, and keep Semenyo?
    B) Enzo to Bruno G, Semenyo to Saka, Wolt to Raul

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      Not sure Bruno G is a priority. Next 3 GWs aren't great for him.

      Semenyo looks good for GW17 and then maybe move on.

      Can you do Enzo & Wolt to Saka & Raul?

  17. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 days, 9 hours ago

    Do we think Saliba will be back for Wolves folks???

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Only Lego Pep knows

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 days, 9 hours ago

        Very true mate!!!!

    2. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Unlikely

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 9 hours ago

      Probably not - doesn’t need rushing back for that fixture

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        Cheers gents!!! No he doesn’t, could be a nice easy one to ease his way back in tho for 60/70 minutes

  18. Von Lipwig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    Which 3 is best?
    A) Semenyo, Bruno G, Wolt
    B) Bruno, Saka, Raul

    1. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      B

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      B easily

    3. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      B

  19. Fitzy.
    • 14 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    "Pep Guardiola has sung his praises multiple times, including yesterday when O’Reilly scored his first goal for Manchester City..."

    I'm no pro pundit, but this needs correcting...

  20. JBG
    • 7 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    Minteh + Mateta + Wolt + Timber + Yoro to Saka + Thiago + Jimenez + White + Gudmundsson

    Everything for free, easy yes?

  21. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    Is OReilly too obvious after last night? Considering him, other City defs, Andersen, and Guehi. Anyone else?

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      OOP punts like DeCuyper or Lewis-Potter could be fun, if they start. Depends on your current defence and risk appetite.

      Andersen and O'Reilly look good to me.

      1. Atimis
        • 9 Years
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        I have Verbruggen and kinda doesn’t feel like doubling up on Brighton, may settle on template OReilly although Andersen fixtures are tempting, while Guehi was scoring constantly as well…

    2. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      Along Timber and VVD

  22. Nightcrawler
    • 6 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    A) Minteh to szobozlai for free (start timber, o Reilly first sub if he misses out)

    B) start both oreily and timber but minteh first sub if either miss out

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      B

  23. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    I had planned on keeping timber of course and selling minteh for rice. Unless pictures of both players training will give a clue about their fitness, not sure what to do...

    Would you consider minteh and timber out for eze and white ?

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      Y, but Eze will probably be a sell down the line

    2. ShaunGoater123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 days, 8 hours ago

      White feels risky for minutes but obviously depends on the injury updates.

      Tbh I'm not the biggest fan of those moves

  24. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    3 days, 8 hours ago

    Good morning guys can u help plz
    Which is best for long Term get pts & CS
    Pope & Munoz >
    A- Kelleher & Chalobah
    B- Sanchez & O'Reilly
    C- Kelleher & O'Reilly and avoid Blues

    1. BR510
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        Start Dubravka home to FUL (what im doing) and do Munoz --> Hincapie/Guehi/Keane/Andersen

        1. OptimusBlack
          • 12 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          Andersen

    2. BR510
        3 days, 8 hours ago

        What to do w/ 3 transfers here?

        Saka Mbeumo Cunha Minteh KDH

        1. Tonyawesome69
          • 7 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          It would be helpful to include budget...

          1. BR510
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              So sorry! I have 4.8 itb

              1. Tonyawesome69
                • 7 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                Minteh to Foden is right there....

        2. nico05
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 days, 8 hours ago

          On WC best GK 4.5 TSB.
          Currently have Kelleher

          1. OptimusBlack
            • 12 Years
            3 days, 8 hours ago

            Yes him

            1. nico05
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              Value looks to be dropping which had me wondering a bit. Any better options

          2. ShaunGoater123
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 days, 8 hours ago

            yeah Kelleher for 4.5

            If can stretch then I think Sanchez is a good option, but it's not that important if it messes other things up

            1. OptimusBlack
              • 12 Years
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              So dude depends on that who ti choose

              A- Kelleher & Chalobah
              B- Sanchez & O'Reilly
              C- Kelleher & O'Reilly and avoid Blues

              1. nico05
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                I’ve got C currently

                1. OptimusBlack
                  • 12 Years
                  3 days, 8 hours ago

                  Yes i see that too

            2. nico05
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              Yeah I can afford him without downgrading, best option would be Cunha - Bruno G to find funds

              1. nico05
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                Can’t *

              2. ShaunGoater123
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                do you haver fernandes? if Not, i'd be tempted to keep cunha. With Mbuemo to AFCON they will need him to step up

                1. nico05
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  3 days, 8 hours ago

                  I do have him mate

                  1. ShaunGoater123
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    3 days, 8 hours ago

                    yeah cool, cunha out to release funds makes total sense then

                    1. nico05
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 7 Years
                      3 days, 8 hours ago

                      Makes sense as a Utd fan I’m betting a little biased as he hasn’t shown much this season yet

          3. BR510
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              Brentford defence is weak. I would go verburggen and play dubravka this week, verb home to sun, then dubravka home to eve, then some brilliant BHA vixtures

              1. nico05
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                Not a bad tactical plan when you put it like that tbh mate.
                I noticed he is rising soon maybe the nicer fixtures you speak about are why?

          4. Qaiss
            • 9 Years
            3 days, 8 hours ago

            Anyone benching VVD this week?

            1. nico05
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              I wouldn’t

              1. Qaiss
                • 9 Years
                3 days, 8 hours ago

                Brighton will score

          5. ShaunGoater123
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 days, 8 hours ago

            Thoughts on Ekitike?

            Do you think he will get a run of starts now with the Gakpo injury? Maybe alongside Isak or instead of?

            1. nico05
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              I like him a lot just the game time risk.
              I could see him maybe drifting more to the left now, there is always the risk his minutes still aren’t guaranteed though

          6. Brosstan
            • 11 Years
            3 days, 8 hours ago

            I was convinced to go Collins instead of VDB on FH by some posters on here who made good arguments that he has more attacking threat despite this season's xGI stats saying otherwise. Thanks. Also now I can blame someone else if VDB scores more than Collins.

          7. BR510
              3 days, 8 hours ago

              Hard to sell KDH but how good does minteh and KDH to foden and rice sound? Thoughts?