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11 December 2012 1942 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 16 takes place this evening as Sunderland prepare for a crucial home clash with fellow strugglers Reading. Can Stephane Sessegnon rescue a double Gameweek captaincy gamble before the schedule turns nasty for the Black Cats? Will Steven Fletcher even take the field as Martin O’Neill attempts to engineer a scramble out the drop zone? As usual, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open ahead of the 7.45pm kick-off…

The big news is that Fletcher makes it; shaking off the ankle injury that kept him out of the defeat to Chelsea to oust Connor Wickham to the bench. The news will receive a mixed reception, particularly from those with Michu as vice captain, armed with his two-goal return against Norwich.

Martin O’Neill also brings Jack Colback into his lineup, relegating Phil Bardsley to the bench – it’s not yet clear how the Sunderland boss is setting up his side, although Craig Gardner could be right-back with Colback at left-back and Danny Rose pushed into midfield: one of several configurations possible. Reading also make changes, with Sean Morrison missing out through injury at the back – his place goes to Alex Pearce with Kaspars Gorkss returning to the bench as cover. Gareth McCleary gets a start on the flank ahead of Hal Robson-Kanu, while Noel Hunt is also drafted in up front; Jason Roberts makes way.

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  1. Thick Of It
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Bent subbed after 30 odd minutes in the cup? Injured or the end of his villa career?

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      injured apparently

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    2. GYM JUNKIE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      surprised too when heard this. injured, the poor lad.

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    3. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Cheers gents, had so much faith in him being a big FPL player this season. It just hasn't happened

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    4. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He needs to come to QPR and give us the goalscorer we desperately need.

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      1. Thick Of It
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Surely 'Arry's missus can just put them in the back of the net?

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  2. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Dreadful DGW as usual.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Still - it's good fun!!! 😀

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Death, taxes and DGW disasters.

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        1. Cheggers
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Unless clints involved

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          1. Granville
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            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Not for me, never had him for his DGW's. I have an awful DGW history.

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          It is the lot of us all. 😆

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    2. Thick Of It
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Lampard Captain did me proud the first gameweek of this season

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  3. Baines on Toast...
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Sess looks decent at least. Due to my HRK-induced madness I'm saving a transfer this week so he's in my team to face United. He'll probably get a score there instead at this rate 😛

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    1. thegame
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      lets hope he does well in the second half!

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  4. COMH
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Great cup tie at Valley Parade. C'mon Bradford finish these jokers off 😉

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      -42.

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        You're not enjoying the game? Or you want Arsenal to win?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          I want the Gunners to blast it.

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          1. COMH
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Coming from a Hammer I find this ridiculous 🙂

            Arsenal not winning trophies is brilliant entertainment though. Bradford FTW!

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  5. Drip Doctor
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Podolski is a striker, Gervinho is a winger, why does Arsene keep playing Gervinho upfront? As for Ramsey on the right, pointless.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He is waiting for him to do a header.

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    2. heartsattack
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      His stubborn attitude knows no limits.

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    3. Cheggers
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Ramsey is SH!T

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    4. El Asesino Pacheco
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Wenger has lost it he must leave in the Jan transfer window 😀

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  6. ★FC Borecelona★
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Mertesacker is 6'7. Yet he can't seem to win a friggin header ffs

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He can't jump.

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  7. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Well this has gone beautifully so far. Reading look toothless. Hope we keep the momentum up second half.

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Are you watching, how is Sess looking?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Not bad at all, imo.

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        1. Drip Doctor
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          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Good stuff, hopefully he gets something in the second half as Reading push forward.

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  8. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fletcher & Mc Clean 1 shot on, 1 shot off so far
    AJ 2 shots off

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Cuellar 3 baps 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Shhh. You will jinx it. 😉

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    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      How's AJ playing though?

      Involved in a lot going forward?

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yes.

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    3. Demí
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Fletcher with a block too.

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    4. OPTA FPL
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sess 3 shots off 🙄

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      1. thegame
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        i thought it was 1

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      2. sy
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        One half left out of the 4 to save my gameweek!!!

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    5. OPTA FPL
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Rose 2 blocked

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  9. El Asesino Pacheco
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Kaspars Gorkss sit tight on that bench I need Demels four points

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  10. GYM JUNKIE
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Darren Bent taken of 35mins due to injury.

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  11. सनकी
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    does blocked shots - the ppi ?

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Blocked shots are counted as 'off target'

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        and +PPI for the blocker

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  12. Mílanista
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Having just seen Forehead's 'effort' all I can say is

    😆 😆 😆

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    1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Kinder Egg in a wig.

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    2. Demí
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      He really is a hopeless footballer. All he can do is dribble, I've seen more diversity in a Serbian football crowd

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        "All he can do is dribble"...well I like him

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  13. pezzerman
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    stop moaning about sess, he has looked bright on the ball, the chance he missed he did a brilliant turn to give himself the opportunity..Still time for a second half brace! fingers crossed!

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  14. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Who did Rafael->Shorey (-4pts) ? C'mon, come forward 🙂

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      me 🙂
      but I am 500k+ rank now, 4pts. won't make a heck of difference 🙁

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I think i was around that rank this tie last season and finished 44k. A lot of games to play yet, keep the faith 🙂

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        1. Feanor
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I did it as my free transfer.

          Still hopeful Shorey can grab an assist tonight.

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        2. Manani
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          hope so, dropped from 130k to 500k in a few weeks, may I add I do have a decent team 😆

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          1. El Asesino Pacheco
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I dropped to 800K clawing my way back up slowly up to 500k now

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  15. JT's Dog
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Arsenal should really have held onto that van persie chap.

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    • Doctor X
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sunderland have been quite great this half. Good to see 🙂

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      1. JT's Dog
          12 years, 12 months ago

          It's reading

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      2. JT's Dog
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Arsenal should really have held onto that van persie chap

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          1. JT's Dog
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Huh! Double sarcasm

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            • DLL18
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              If he'd stayed he could've won a Carling Cup for christ's sake. 😉

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              1. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Well final maybe

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            • Pepin - RIP Absinthe
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Someone remind me why we did Sess (c) again? Bit a of a joke. AJ is on 13 points pre bonus already.

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              1. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Thanks for that, I took armband off AJ for giraffe at arsenal

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                • thischarmingman
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Because Capt. Hindsight tells you what to do AFTER the matches.

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                • Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Glover called it.

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                  1. Doctor X
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Glover's a seer. Number crunching based predictions. Top stuff!

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                    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Yea, he's amazing.

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                    2. Piggs Boson
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Let's not go that far. He makes mistakes, his rank is nothing special at the moment.

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                  2. Chu Young Ping Pong
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Did he? Link??! I captained him tho.

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                    1. Piggs Boson
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      http://premierleaguefantasy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/gameweek-16-preview.html

                      He put him above sess in the captain picks.

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                • alsybach
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  because you can't predict the future, simple really..............its a game of chance.......the sooner you realise, the better you will sleep at night............

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                • Beamer
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Big fail sess (C) ... Dont know why i captained him...

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              2. bantamdave
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                12 years, 12 months ago

                Holy moses...premier league, your having a laugh....

                Brill atmosohere at VP... Did Nakhi Wells hit the post just before half time. I have a pint on with a mate that he did...

                And Gervino...hahahahaha. If he stays on, we have a chance..

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                1. FPLFamily (Lee)
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                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Looks like it just rolled past and missed the post mate. I would try and claim that pint anyway.

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              3. alsybach
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                is Gervinho the worst player EVER in the premier league????????? I have never seen anything like it, he has the composure in front of goal, that of a moth in a garden full of light bulbs..........................

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                1. shegull
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                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  His finishing is just sad. Technique and pace are good.

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                2. SW6
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  He's not even the worst in the arsenal squad.

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                3. MCM
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Jo for Man City?

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                4. Doctor X
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  😆

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                5. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  I think that guy that said he was George Weah's cousin was the worst ever player in the league.. 😆

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                6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Well, how would you feel, surrounded by five Denise Milanis?

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                7. Shipstontrev
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Chamakh?

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              4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                can someone explain something to me?

                How does PPI work when it comes to clearances. On Sunday City had 5 corners, every single one of them was cleared by RvP, surely he should get a higher PPI for doing this then say, Smalling, after all RvP is the striker, clearing corners at the near post is not what you generally expect him to be doing.

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                1. RoysCallerAnne
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                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  I think blocking shots is way more important than clearances for PPI

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                  1. alsybach
                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    I think you think too much

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                2. Granville
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                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  G-d only knows. They protect the algorithm like Colonel Saunders protects his recipe.

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                  1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    just trying to point on yet another flaw in the BP system, RvP was involved in the opening goal, hit the post (which will actually count against him) and cleared corners. The BP system needs overhauling IMO, but I can't see it happening

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                    1. Granville
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                      • 16 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Have trust, it will.

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                3. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Wouldn't be surprised if clearances counted as misplaced passes...

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                4. MJ6987
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Maybe only defenders get points for stuff like that.

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              5. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                I guess Forehead's miss was something else? Can't wait to see it. Shocker?

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                1. FPLFamily (Lee)
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                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  It really is bad. I want to stick up for him and say it bobbled, but it didn't.

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                2. SW6
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Got nothing on this. My all time favourite.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=05CSYEKSCUk

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              6. Ole Gunnar Kush
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                12 years, 12 months ago

                Does Johnson deserve the assist for McCleans goal?

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                1. GYM JUNKIE
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  yes 100%

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                  1. Ole Gunnar Kush
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    for what reason?

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                    1. GYM JUNKIE
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      johnson took the corner keep punched it out and it landed to mcclean who scored.

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                      1. Ole Gunnar Kush
                        • 15 Years
                        12 years, 12 months ago

                        thats not an assist imo

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                      2. Feanor
                        • 16 Years
                        12 years, 12 months ago

                        Like Tevez and Zabaleta on Saturday?

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                        1. Feanor
                          • 16 Years
                          12 years, 12 months ago

                          *Sunday.

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                2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  No.

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                  1. Chu Young Ping Pong
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    That's cuz you don't have him 🙂

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Watch the ball.

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              7. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Just heard the northern rock loan arse up. Cha Ching, thank you v much mr taxpayer. Oh wait that's me

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                • GYM JUNKIE
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Keep calm and Sessegnon 🙂

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                  1. Baines on Toast...
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                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    😀

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                • r0nh
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Arsenal will win this game.

                  We all know it.

                  Calm down.

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                • thischarmingman
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Anyone looking to keep sess?

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                  1. r0nh
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Are you joking?!!

                    He hasn't scored in this gameweek, so far...

                    That is an automatic transfer to these clowns.

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                    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      😀 😀

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                    2. Pratik
                      • 16 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      😆

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                  2. सनकी
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Done him for michu even before he played chelsea for the price rise.

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                • MJ6987
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  I need 8 points from Fletcher to make it worthwhile him playing as my cpt. Would have had RVP vice and Nelsen off the bench. How is it looking?

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                • TeamSteam
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Surely thats an adam Johnson assist on the first goal?

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                  1. JT's Dog
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      He got it on fpl

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                    • MJ6987
                      • 15 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Nah.

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                  2. BobB
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                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Why not keep Sess? He's up front with Fletch and by all accounts looking dangerous

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                    1. Baines on Toast...
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 15 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      let the sheep flock away =D

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