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15 December 2012 4001 comments
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A programme of six Premier League matches begins at St James’ Park where Newcastle host champions Man City in the early kick-off. Five three o’clock matches follow, with United’s home clash with Sunderland and Liverpool’s encounter with Villa the headline acts for Fantasy managers, as Robin Van Persie, Wayne Rooney and Luis Suarez take up the armband for the majority. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to capture the highs and lows of the day as the action unfolds.

The team news from the North East finds Hatem Ben Arfa missing out for the Magpies through injury – James Perch replaces the Frenchman in a move that looks to shore up the Newcastle midfield, with Jonas Gutierrez shifting forward as part of a 4-3-3. As for City, they are without skipper Vincent Kompany as expected, with Kolo Toure drafted in to replace him. Mario Balotelli is also discarded, with Carlos Tevez earning a start, while Javi Garcia replaces the suspended Gareth Barry.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Viper
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    For those suggesting sky are saying its an OG..

    http://live.skysports.com/ScoreCentre/live.html

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    1. lfcserg
      • 13 Years
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      their idiots, the header was on target, how can it be counted as an own goal?

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      1. Fantasy Football Friend!
        • 13 Years
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        * they're idiots

        irony......

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        1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
          • 13 Years
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          *their idiots - the statisticians that work/belong to Sky 😉

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      It was clearly (a) an error on Sky's part and (b) a WUM attempt by non-Silva owning clowns 😀

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    3. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      Don't cry when his assist is removed.

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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        You're late! Left all the trolling to demba the poor guy 😉

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    4. â­ Bemba_Da â­
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      sky sports labelled it an own goal

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
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        It must be true then!

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  2. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    HIL.LFC - WE NEED THE CL, THE CL NEEDS US! is the most annoying poster on here.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Who he?

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    2. Kostja
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      I can think of at least 1 much more annoying poster.

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        You?

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      You'll never reach your destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks.

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    4. Live4pool
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      lol
      i pity you.

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  3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    An assertion of a fact, no matter how forcibly raised, does not equate to the fact. FACT!!! 😆

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      I DO NOT AGREE!!!!!!!!!!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Well, obviously. But this says more about you than it does about me ... or the fact. 😉

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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          ðŸ™

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    2. Bad Seed
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      apart from, "THIS IS AN ASSERTION!", perhaps...

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  4. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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    is 104.7 an okay team value?

    ðŸ™

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    1. Simon69
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      This is gas

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      average

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    3. Manani
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      104.4m

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    4. Keane There Dunne That
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      Mine is way less. 🙠Because I always leave transfers until Fridays.

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    5. MJ6987
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      It's ok.

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    6. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      It's not how much you've got, it's what you do with it.

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    7. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Mine is around the same. If you want to improve it just do your transfers on Saturday nights.

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    8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      Value's a dangerous thing to focus on dude... Would you rather have 110m value and 1000 points, or 100m value and 1005 points?

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        The first one by a long way.

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        1. Somalion
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          +1 definitely, very poor example that.

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          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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            Lol. Ok i'll rephrase...

            At the end of the season would you rather have 2000 points and 110m value... Or 2001 points and 105m value?

            Yes yes i know you're more likely to have better players with more money etc. But i wouldnt let losing value dictate my transfer policy. Points on the board are what matters.

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      2. Phaze 1
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        This is just horrible. Hope its a level

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    9. Phaze 1
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      its not terrible if u haven't used your w/c

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  5. Sarnab
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    @Lateriser

    silva in for bonus?? u sure??

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
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      ...45 minutes left to play. Surely, that will have an impact on who gets what BAPS.

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    2. Pinoche
      • 13 Years
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      He can't be sure. Game hasn't finished.

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  6. Saint & Reevesy
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    Any team news for the other games ?

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    1. Keane There Dunne That
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      Liverpool one I think.

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  7. MountainBeach
    • 13 Years
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    santi to mata on a ft?
    chelsea play aston villa at home, thoughts?

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    1. MJ6987
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      Not Silva vs Reading?

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      1. MountainBeach
        • 13 Years
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        already got silva!

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      Im tempted by ba>torres... But ba has qpr home next ðŸ™

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    3. The Team Principal
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      Wait to see if Mata plays against Leeds. If he does then he might be rested against Villa, we all know what Rafa is like.

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      1. MountainBeach
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        when are chelsea playing leeds?
        you reckon his price will rise?

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  8. Piggs Boson
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    Aguero is probably on 1bap at the moment tops. Need him to score another...

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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      +1000 still I would be happy with seven points to start the week 🙂

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        7? He got a yellow, so if he plays 60 minutes he'll be on 5pts ðŸ˜

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        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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          Crap forgot about that

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      Sky Sports reports that Clyne has made a move to Reading and is in-line to make a start on Monday against Arsenal.

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        😆

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      2. Saint & Reevesy
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        Which Clyne?

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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          The one that's keeping Sergio on the bench for a certain Mrs Coleman

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    3. Portuguese&Proud
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      he might score... another yellow

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  9. Jebiga
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    liverpool lineup anyone ?

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    1. Sarnab
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      Xabi Alonso starts

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      1. Jebiga
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        realy ?
        Ii thought Fowler and Mcmanaman plays as well 🙂

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        1. DLL18
          • 13 Years
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          Stig Inge Bjornebye takes the place of the injured Enrique. 😉

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      2. Evans
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        Jan Molly on the bench

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  10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    Goal each for silva & ba would be lovely jubbly, final score 3-1, silva 3 baps, thanks.

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    1. Lucky_2010
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      4-2 will be better with ba scoring twice lol

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  11. Viper
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    100% nailed on assist, the ball hits Santon's left foot which is positioned on the line! Move along anyone thats says otherwise!

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  12. o0Ash
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    The Santon OG debate will rest on whether Santon firstly directed the ball away from goal before directing it in with the standing leg.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      hahahaha

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        Why are you laughing?

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      Oh. Hadn't thought about that.

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    3. Declan
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      There is no debate.

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
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        I want a mass debate.

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      2. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        There is.

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    4. Biggerlips
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      Making something that's uncomplicated a little too complicated for mine... 😕

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      1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Yeah, really complicated when a player or players touch the ball twice before it entering the net

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        1. IamIronMike
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          I haven't seen it but can two touches off the same player really count as a deflection?

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        2. Biggerlips
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          We should have a team of surveyors at the ground that can quickly pull out the theodolites and determine trajectories of initial and subsequent touches to solve these complications maybe...

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    5. Piggs Boson
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      Interesting point...

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    6. Smarty Pants
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      😆

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  13. Gimli son of Gloin
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    Non Silva Owner. Definite Silva assist. Thought initially it may have been hitting the post, but it turns out Santon just doesn't merit his position in a professional football team. Really don't rate him.
    Silva assist

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      He's been their second best player this season behind Ba, according to China Mag. He's having a shocker today though.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        It doesn't help that he has Jonas playing in front of him. He has been pants all season. Nasri, Tevez and Yaya are shredding them to pieces ont he right flank.

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        1. Gimli son of Gloin
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          Jonas is a horribly one footed player, Seems like a less talented version of James Milner. Puts in a tremendous effort each week

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      2. Gimli son of Gloin
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        His defending is all over the place from the two or three times I've seen him this season. And attacking, from what I've seen, he offers very little apart from a spilled shot that was tapped in. A Newcastle fan will surely know better though.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          Far better player than Simpson, imo.

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  14. COMH
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    That pass from Yaya for the goal was world class. It's a shame that doesn't get rewarded in FPL and the Nasri square ball does. You wouldn't change it though.

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      +42

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      How about adding +1 point for the assist to an assist? Could work for next season 🙂

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        Nah. Too many random points will be given.

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      ACON

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    4. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      he would have got points in the telegraph game under the rules of a "key contribution". its one thing telegraph do well.

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  15. viciousrumour
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Chasing a 60 point lead in my mini league. he captained suarez, i captained RVP. could be a season defining gameweek here. David Silva is doing the biz for me right now.

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      why? we have other 21 GW

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      1. viciousrumour
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        but I see this as hopefully a major opportunity it close the gap. Either player could go riot. If Suarez gets a hattrick and RVP blanks, then I could imagine that it would be quite an insurmountable lead to catch up on

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  16. Golden Oldies
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Some people do odd things...guy in my mini league has gone 4 at the back by doubling up on Stoke defence..at the expense of benching Shane Long home to West ham...hmm

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    1. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Someone in my ML took a 4 pt hit for Ivanovic.
      Go figure.

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      1. Muniains Tears
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        12 years, 11 months ago

        :)))))))))))

        a guy in my ML transferd in tiote this week.

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    2. viciousrumour
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      Perhaps he knows something you don't

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
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        Maybe.
        Don't know what that would be.

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    3. Lucky_2010
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      wouldn't know if the result end with 0-0 .......

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  17. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    To my indian friends, is star sports abailable in nagpur? I can not seem to find it anywhere ðŸ™

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  18. tm245
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    As one who was waiting for them to click before owning, so tough to watch City and City FPL owners in form. Cool, calculating, sizing up more goals and bonus...Gw 18 cannot come soon enough.

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  19. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
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    Half time FPL prediction talk time. Not doing that Nastasic 4 pt hit would pay of or New will score anyway?

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
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      But you would have just broken even with the cleanie...

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
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        If they shut Newcastle out.

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      2. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
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        Well no if I don't field 11 this week. Which its seems possible and would have nice City defensive cover for the festive period .

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    2. Viper
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      Newcastle almost scored a couple of times..

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  20. Clay
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    Midfield is looking interesting already for next week. Bale, Silva, Mata and Santi all with mouth-watering fixtures ...

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      Arsenal NEVER have mouth watering fixtures.

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    2. Somalion
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      Stoke mouth watering? I think not!

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    3. tm245
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      Not Bale, but picking the right two or three of those four will be the biggest challenge of the next two months.

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    4. Keane There Dunne That
      • 13 Years
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      +1

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    5. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Bale?

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  21. Somalion
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    Non Silva owner, have only woken up and haven't turned on the match. I can 100% guarantee the assist will not stand and I base this on absolutely nothing.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      😯

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
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        Teeeehehehe

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      Noooo ðŸ™

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    3. hnmfm
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      http://i.imgur.com/Jz7pR.gif

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      1. Somalion
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        😀

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  22. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity.

    got to love Albert.. not Uncle Albert btw..

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  23. FPL Daniel
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    WOW Mark's attack.

    Rooney RVP Suarez - all red, bottom heavy too. I wonder how will that pay of. The rest of the team also looks solid

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
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      Stalker....

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I love his strike force 😎

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    3. Piggs Boson
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      Yep, it's easy to afford because of Sterling/Puncheon and Michu and Fellaini. I've been saying this for a while!!

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      1. tm245
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        This.

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    4. Keane There Dunne That
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      My rivals front 8 is

      Mata,cazorla,Michu,fellaini,Suarez
      Rooney,tevez,Suarez 😯

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
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        2 Suarez's? Nicely done by him.

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        1. Keane There Dunne That
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          Ha. Sterling in midfield.

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    5. Clay
      • 13 Years
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      I love Uncle Albert.

      The old sea dog.

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    6. Bad Seed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      not sure it was worth a wildcard. we'll see.

      for those still with a wildcard, are you hoping for some snow/FA cup postponements and use it for a juicy DGW?

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    7. Gimli son of Gloin
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      Seems to be the attack of many teams this week, mine included.

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    8. Clay
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      Same as mine. So he's bound to f**k up monumentally.

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  24. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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    Thinking RVP & Berba -> Rooney & Torres for -4.

    Pre-match, what do we think? Obviously I'll save the decision until after the 15:00 games are finished.

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  25. Dealbert
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I will be aiming for the following front eight during the Christmas period, looking good?

    Bale - Silva - Michu - Sterling - Puncheon
    RVP - Torres - Berba/Giroud

    Thanks in advance for your time

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    1. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Mata instead of Silva... Felliani in place of Sterling would be the perfect midfield...

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  26. Your Mum's Athletic
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    MUFC: Lindegaard Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra Valencia Carrick Cleverley A Young Van Persie Ronney

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      No Rooney then.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        That would be great!!

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    2. viciousrumour
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      source?

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    3. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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      Welcome back Vida!

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    4. Piggs Boson
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      3/3 Nice 🙂

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        ^This 🙂

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      2. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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        Cheeky bench there Giggs 😉

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    5. OPTA FPL
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      fake...

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  27. Doctor X
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    Who has not captained Van Persie here?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      o/

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      I don't have him ðŸ™

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    3. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      me... Suarez my (c)

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  28. andyd
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    best player in the league? silva, mata, tevez, yaya, rvp, or suarez?

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    1. MountainBeach
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      rooney

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  29. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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    How many fake Liverpool line-ups does everyone think will pop up in a few minutes time?

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    1. Smarty Pants
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      3

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      1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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        Sounds about right I think 😉

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    2. Your Mum's Athletic
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      +50

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  30. Rick James
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    Tevez really does an annoying gum chewing style on him

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    1. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      Oppa Chewing Style?!

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