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The ScoutCast – Episode 54 – Crash

18 August 2011 3428 comments
Granville Granville
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As if out of sympathy for the Fantasy Premier League, or podcast recording software crashed at the death this week. Finished. Kaput.

Panic ensued – hands on head there were cries of “I can’t go through that again” from host Mark as I desperately attempted to recover our lost words. Luckily, temporary files restored, our fifty fourth episode was rescued and rebuilt like Ledley King’s knee. Hopefully it won’t collapse again next week – like Ledley King’s knee.

Within it you’ll find unusually muted tones as Mark and I dissect the events or rather “non-events” of the weekend. Frustrations vented, this week’s broadcast picks up to its usual pace and departs on an optimistic note.

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  1. MeandYouSittingInATree
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    Is Alex nailed on for Chelsea?

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    1. Kostja
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      Is anyone worried about Torres not getting the minutes, or is last weeks showing good enough?

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  2. Super-Hans
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    Any news on when the h2h leagues will be updated?!

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      After kick off Saturday.

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  3. davhow_01
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    A) Van de vart, Cahill
    or
    B) Nani, Yaya?

    I think i prefer A.

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    1. shivamutd
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      a

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    2. pelzi80
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      Would say nani, cahill.....based on fixtures.

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  4. RobRob
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    Suarez, Aguero, Rooney, and Bent.
    I need 3. Tell me which 3 and why.

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    1. EL TANO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      suarez rooney aguero

      coz

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    2. Joggers Nipple
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      Rooney and bent for sure due to home games/ fixtures.

      Then Suarez vs Aguro? Why not Torres and swap To Aguero later as his fixtures get better and he 100% starts?

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    3. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Aguero not guaranteed to start so leave alone for now.

      Bent barely got a touch last week

      Rooney looked half decent

      Suarez looked a must have and best value

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    4. Hapless Hat-Tricks
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      I'm going Rooney, Torres, Suarez. If Torres stinks it up in the two mint home games, he'll come straight out for a fit and firing Aguero in GW4! Got N'Zogbia in midfield for Villa coverage.

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    5. Jafalad
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      Suarez: 5ppg + for 9.5. Amazing bargain.

      Bent: see fixture list.

      Aguero:

      Although prefer Torres to Aguero tbh.

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  5. The ghost of a Pug's g…
    • 14 Years
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    Was too worried about Chelsea rotation this week to plonk in either Torres or Malouda.

    Originally thought Bent was the only solution but villa are the new Brum. Have so many painful memories of zigic last season. Made some changes and would appreciate feedback.

    Hilarious (Given)

    Kompany Fabio Alex Warnock (Senderos)

    Lampard Silva Moses Sinclair (Fox)

    Roonpig Suarez (AJ)

    Team seems about as balanced as I've ever had it. Still tempted to go with Baines or Cashley. Both a shoe in for cleanies and bonus pts minimum.

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  6. Albert Cole
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    How many matches will Bosingwa get in a row now? Can see people are bringing him in.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Next two probs.

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    2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
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      I reckon he'll be gone this weekend mate!!!

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  7. HellasLEAF
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    This Cech injury is a major downer for my chelsea clean sheets, as I was thinking of doubling up Bosingwa and A Cole. Hilario 'always' lets in a goal it seams. He's shit.

    dang it all!

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  8. EL TANO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
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    Given (ruddy)

    Lescott bosingwa baines(c) riise (r taylor)

    silva moses cahill zog (dyer)

    aguero suarez (graham)

    thinking of cahill to osman (who was ballistic last season)to free up 2 mil or cahill to fellaini to free up 2.5

    any suggestions?
    sit on cahill or what would you do with 2.5 mil?
    any su

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    1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
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      Aguero won't start. Just to let you know

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      1. EL TANO
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        torres then?
        can't believe I just typed that

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  9. Mr Smith
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    Silva & Sinclair

    Or

    Toure & Cahill

    ?

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Toure & Sinclair

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  10. ToonTom
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    Jafa...you are selling Bos hard, why do you think he is more sure to start than Ivan?

    And all the nicknames! Haha so confusing!

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    1. Christina.
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      I've even considered dumping the Swinga!

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      1. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Why do you have him? Bosingwa right? Ivan not a major threat? Or think AVB changes everything?

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        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Everything!

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    2. Get up ya bum
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      Seems like swinga's spot to lose atm. Ivan was on the bench last week so presumably was fit and bos played a blinder. No reason to drop him when he's in form.

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      1. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Quite the gamble though surely?
        Mind you, if he will play him against Stoke!....Ivan's aerial strngth meant to be his main point.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
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          That was my thinking. If ever there is a game more suited to Ivan stoke was it. Is a gamble, the potential rewards may outweigh the risk though.

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    3. Jafalad
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ivan looks the danger to his place, granted. I guess I need Bos to cover Baines and Bad K plus to take advantage of the CHS fix.

      Bos down to start in the scout team news after playing well at STK.

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      1. ToonTom
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        Jafa-WHO IS BAD K!?

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        1. eugtan
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          Kompany?

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  11. Here We Go Again
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    Please let me know what option you think is best?
    Also is Bosingwa safe to have? Thoughts on Osman?

    OPTION 1
    Begovic (Ruddy)
    Kompany, Bosingwa, Warnock (Enrique, Simpson)
    Yaya, Nzogbia, Osman, Moses (Surman)
    Torres (c), Rooney, Suarez

    OR

    OPTION 2
    Begovic (Ruddy)
    Kompany, Terry, Warnock (Enrique, Simpson)
    Yaya, Walters, Nozgbia ,Moses (Surman)
    Aguero, Rooney, Suarez

    OR

    OPTION 3
    Begovic (Ruddy)
    Kompany, Bosingwa, Warnock (Enrique, Simpson)
    Yaya, Walters, Silva ,Moses (Surman)
    Torres, Rooney, Suarez

    Many thanks!

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Me like option 1

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    2. ollycee
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      I like the look of option 3 the most (very similar to mine). But I don't think Silva and Yaya should be in the same team, I would trade Yaya for N,zog due to Villas fixtures and use the 0.5 to upgrade another mid / def or bank for later.

      I notice you have gone for Surman as your cheap mid. I currently have Dyer from Swansea but I'm undecided. What made you go for him?

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      1. Here We Go Again
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        i just had a look at his stats and looked like the kid could score some goals and went for him

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      2. Here We Go Again
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        still torn between yaya and silva - just think where it will be a low scoring game, yaya will be hauling in the bonus points

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        1. ollycee
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          I'm looking at it from a long term point of view, I think Silva will out score Yaya over the course of the season. Yaya will play a more defensive role against bigger teams and when City play 2 up front IMO.

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          1. Here We Go Again
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            probably a good point against bigger teams - i was watching the replay against swansea and yaya had his fair chances on goal but perhaps you are right.

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  12. Random_Guy
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    RMT:

    Hilario, (Vorm)
    Warnock, Kompany, Baines (VC), (Senderos, Simpson)
    Silva, N'Zogbia, Moses, Sessegnon, (Dyer)
    Torres (C), Rooney, Holt

    2.5m left in the bank. Any changes I should make?

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    1. Christina.
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      Holt-->Fletcher

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      1. ToonTom
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        I agree, if I had a cheaper forward, I like Fletcher...

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      2. Christina.
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        Then Dyer--->Sinclair(on peno's/2 home games)

        Play Fletcher(4/6 at home), Play Sinclair and bench Moses.

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      3. Fratboy
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        +1

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    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Moses -> Ramsey

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      1. ToonTom
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        Is Rosicky out? if not Ramsey played deeper, behind Rosicky vs us at the weekend and Arsenal were poor, really poor. Otherwise I fancy Ramsey too!

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  13. thetinkerman
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all.

    So, looking at the match reports for last night's Europa League, looks like there are a few talking points.

    Hughes and Hangeland played together in the centre and Senderos was benched - do we think this is simply rotation and he will feature in the league? Did Kelly do enough at right back to keep Hughes in the middle and therefore keep Senderos out?

    Neither Dembele OR Johnson started up front - I suppose we can take from this that Dembele isn't fit/fancied by Jol and Johnson was rested

    What about Briggs? He played well apparently - could this mean he will get pitch time ahead of Riise or will he push on to his much touted left wing spot?

    What do you guys think?

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    1. Twelve years a slave
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      Senderov not playing is probably good news , means hes being rested for premier league

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    2. reo19uk
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      suggests to me the rumours about senderos going romz maybe true and doesnt want to cup tie him, Yeahr eckon johnson jsut rested and no chance briggs gonna move ahead of riise u dont buy riise then bench him

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  14. Kloppelganger
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I can't stop myself putting fat frank in my team. Just keep thinking he's going to explode (and, no, not due to his fatness!) the next 2 weeks.

    Anyone else having the same problem?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He's in there at the moment. Not to say he will score the highes over the next 2 gameweeks, but at least we know he will start and is on spotkicks and is therefore a safer captain pick.

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      1. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
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        Honestly it has a lot to do with unknowns/luck. I wont have him as he seems to have potential to play deeper and isnt worth 12 mill. But that could change and not due to some fact or other that we know!Torres will do me...a risk I am prepared to take!

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      2. Kloppelganger
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        Cheers lads, strangely I find it easier to balance my team with him in than Torres atm- I must be missing some glaring error though so will go check again.

        Man this extra WC is a serious headache at times- a good one though, if such a thing exists!

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        1. ToonTom
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          Agreed!

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      WW, I answered your Agbon question last page. 🙂

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      1. Kloppelganger
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        Cheers mate, just read it! Have you got him in?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          No, I'll have a look at him Saturday,if his workrate is that good it could be BPs.

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          • 15 Years
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          Given,Warnock and Bent atm,though he would free up cash if back to his best.

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          1. Kloppelganger
            • 14 Years
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            For sure and could be a great differential. 3.3% atm and I haven't seen him on many (if any) RMT's on here- though maybe there's a good reason for that!

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    3. CFCTom
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      Frank Lampard is not fat.

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      1. Kloppelganger
        • 14 Years
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        :-;, ah but he is a little......

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        1. Kloppelganger
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          FAIL- :-;

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          1. Kloppelganger
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            DOUBLE FAIL, GAME OVER!

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  15. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Morning All!

    A) Kompany and Downing
    or
    B) Baines and Brunt

    Brunt to be benched this week as I have another starter in mind but to be used in the weeks to follow.

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    1. Christina.
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      More Zoeloe - you thinking like me...

      B

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      1. Hanso Lo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        More more...I noted you mentioned Fletcher above. I managed to catch some highlights of the Wolves game last night I drafted him into my team. Good call on that one.

        Must say I never fancied Baines for my team but with my current line-up it does make sense now...

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  16. RD
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    1.Villa have nice fixtures...am i mad to go just with Given and no attackng options.

    2.Jagielka \Distin ... cant afford Baines ..Who is a good tackler from Jagielka and distin??

    3.Is Richards nailed on??

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      1. Yeah a bit, although their attack has yet to click.

      2. Both good players. I prefer Distin

      3. Nope. Zabaleta...

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      1. RD
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Ok thanks for the reply

        Given - Vrom
        Kompany - Distin - Boswinga - Brown - Simpson
        Silva - Nani - Cahill - Sinclair - Moses
        Torres - Suarez - Johnson

        This is my team at the moment..the best possible way to get a villa attacking potential would be

        Cahill + Johnson > Nzog + Saha
        But for that i need to squeeze .5 from somwhere..ne idea??

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  17. RobRob
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bardsley or Enrique?

    A.Cole? What to do with him now that Cech is out?

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  18. EL TANO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    silva or yaya?

    threat seems about the same

    I have silva but that 1.5 mil is significant

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think you could put that money to better use.

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    2. Alan R Statham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'm looking at the same thing.
      Yaya & Sess or
      Silva & 5.0

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    3. Here We Go Again
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i'm slightly tilted towards yaya as i think he could be more on the receiving end of bonus points, especially low scoring games - i'm torn too and 1.5 is a lot!

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  19. yash
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts please

    Given Vorm
    A.Cole Kompany Huth Gabbidon Simpson
    Toure Nani Sinclair Jarvis Tiote
    Rooney Torres Holt

    0.5 in bank

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Pretty good, apart from Gabbidon & Tiote. I'd downgrade Nani as he's still a rotation liability.

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      1. yash
        • 14 Years
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        Who should i take in place of nani

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      2. ToonTom
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        Arent many big price mids that arent though are there Teddy? Malouda/Young/Nani, potentially even Silva if Nasri moves....Who would you chose?

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        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Not telling 😉

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          1. ToonTom
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            Haha like the candour!

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  20. HellasLEAF
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Spot the differential.

    Didier Drogba...

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    1. CFCTom
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think he'll start alongside Torres against The Bromich.

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  21. firemansam72
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    can you RTM plse
    Given (Begovic)
    A.Cole Kompany Hangeland ( Ward, Smalling)
    Mikel Moses Silva N'Zog (Reo Coker)
    A.Johnson Rooney Aguero

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    1. CFCTom
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      Mikel? Good player but doesn't do what gets the points.
      Moses? Bandwagon IMO.
      N'Zog? Yet to do anything at Villa.
      Aguero? May not start the game, and may only get few minutes if at all, waste of 11 points if thats the case.
      Rooney? Tough fixtures coming up yet he's fixture proof so thats fair.
      Other than that good team. Though Hangeland to Riise would be wise.

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    2. Horizontal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      I wouldn't want Mikel in my team. Too much of a rotation risk and his mind may not be fully on the job since his father has been abducted.

      Aguero almost certainly won't start, and when he come on then it's unlikely that he'll be up against a bunch of tired defenders like Swansea were last week. He's definitely on my watchlist though.

      N'Zog looked hapless last week. Until Villa show signs of attacking intent and strength then I'd put him on my watchlist too.

      Your lack of Chelsea coverage is worrying given their fixtures, and tripling up on Man City seems a tad optimistic.

      So 6/10, tops. 🙂

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        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Your thanks are duly noted, fireman72.

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  22. Horizontal
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Probably lost on the last page......

    Top tip: If you’re running Windows you can download a free program called expatshield (Google it) which will give you a Virtual Private Network with an IP address in the UK.

    Then you can watch Match of the Day live, or use the BBC iPlayer to watch it when it suits you.

    I've been using it for a while now and it works perfectly. No viruses either.

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    1. RobRob
      • 14 Years
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      BBC iPlayer is just on the site?
      And what is Match of the Day?

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      1. Damo.
        • 16 Years
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        😯

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          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          Er.... expatshield gives you access to all the UK TV channels available on the internet as if you were living in the UK.

          Match of the Day is the EPL highlights programme broadcast on BBC1 on a Saturday (And Match of the Day 2 is the highlights programme for the matches on Sunday).

          A Virtual Private Network is... probably beyond your comprehension. 🙂

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          1. RobRob
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            I comprehend networking just fine. It's the UK channels that I am unfamiliar with.
            I'll try this out though. Thanks for the info.

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  23. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please guys, also need suggestions on who the best captain I have for this week is...

    Hilario (Vorm)
    Baines Kompany Warnock (Simpson) (De Laet)
    Nani Cahill Toure Sinclair (Tiote)
    Torres Bent Doyle

    Help would be hugely appreciated!!

    🙂

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  24. ToonTom
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Looking at Bos aregument....some thoughts I found on a blog...

    “the modern game allows two types of full-backs”, your Ashley Cole or your Ivanovic, however the risk of playing two attacking full-backs “at the same time in football today is quite high”. AVB is primarily focussing on balance here: looking at Barcelona, their right hand side is far more dominant than their left for obvious reasons. Messrs Alves and Messi have more licence to attack than Pedro and whoever slots in at left-back.

    http://plainsofalmeria.co.uk/2011/06/26/avb-its-433-but-not-as-we-know-it/

    So he could be rotated? Ivan more solid? Just not sure about risking Torres AND Bos! But is tempting..

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bosingwa is a right back, Ivanovic is a centre back, Bosingwa will play at right back as that is his position. AVB played Bosingwa at right back in pre season and Ivanovic at centre back, if Ivanovic is more solid surely he'd be preferred against Stoke? Seeing as though hes wasn't, Bosingwa is surely the preferred choice at right back. And Ashley Cole is a better full back than Abidal and Bosingwa and more balanced than Alves, he'll be defensive when Bosingwa drives forwards and vice versa. For the majority of the season our back four will be:
      Bosingwa Terry Cole with Ivanovic, Alex and Luiz competing for the other CB role.
      Bosingwa isn't under any threat of rotation currently so how can he be a risk?

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 16 Years
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        thank you....so very much for clearing this up! we need more ITK's in here!

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      2. Dave Bauer
        • 16 Years
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        I've just put him in, but I'm not quite as certain as you....hope you're right!

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      3. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
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        A fair few assertions there. Ivan played RB last season and clearly can play there very well, he is not "just" a CB. Having watched Bos I also think saying he is more solid than Alves is damning with faint praise, he is still a very attacking full back!

        He clearly is a slight risk at best. I am not saying I think he will definately be rotated I am just saying he could be. They must have RB competition and it seems it comes from Ivan. Careful thinking anything is that cut and dried! But you could well be right, he may have the spot now and I would be pleased by this! I am just wondering and thinking it through.

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        1. HellasLEAF
          • 16 Years
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          one thing is for sure, he was excellent away to Stoke. better than Cole. so he sure won't lose that spot at the moment because of form.

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        2. Dave Bauer
          • 16 Years
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          He's definitely under threat from Ivan. Whether he is actually a right back or not, he has played there a lot and keeping all those centre halves happy won't be easy so I don't think Bosingwa is nailed on.

          However I do think the shirt is his for now and hopefully that will last at least the next couple of games!

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        3. _Freddo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Paolo Fererria is his deputy.

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  25. Giggs Boson redundant accou…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Given // Vorm

    Bosingwa Woodgate Kompany // Senderos Simpson

    N'zogbia Moses Yaya Nani // Hoolahan

    Suarez Torres(c) Bent

    Any suggestions?

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  26. Joey Millions
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    any ideas of everton;s backline??
    jagi, baines, distin......?

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  27. Here We Go Again
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    any thoughts on Osman or Fellaini as a cheaper Everton representation or dont bother at all?

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  28. thetinkerman
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Any Fulham fans (or people who know a lot about Fulham) know if Dempsey played behind Zamora last night? Do you think he we keep his spot and keep Johnson/Zamora benched?

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  29. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Well. Took rvp out last night and put in rooney. I then had a dream that rvp scored 4. It was so flipping real and I was sooo annoyed! Do we follow our dreams or not! Lol!

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  30. blawrence95
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Option A.) Senderos and Downing
    Option B.) Hughes and G.Cahill

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