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Following a successful first season at the Britannia for Mark Hughes, in which he guided Stoke to a ninth-place finish, expectations were high as the Potters headed into the 2014/15 campaign. The former Blackburn boss continued his side’s evolution, bringing in the likes of Bojan Krkic from Barcelona and Victor Moses on a season-long loan from Chelsea, while Phil Bardsley and Mame Biram Diouf added physicality at both ends of the pitch. That balance of style and substance ultimately proved successful, with Stoke finishing in ninth place once again.

In this members article, we will take an in-depth look at Hughes’ second season in charge, analysing the main goal threats and creators and comparing the numbers from the 2013/14 and 2014/15 campaigns under the Welshman.

  1. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Henderson is so overrated in terms of FPL on here. He wasn't even that good of an option when he was priced at £6m. Penalties aren't going to make him much better either.

    1. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      After having him in my team at the end of last season I'm inclined to agree.

    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Mental comment.

      6th highest pts from all mids last season.

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Only because he played alnost every game. 4 points per game isn't great and his points aren't really predictable as well i.e. he's just as likely to score away at Chelsea than at home to Newcastle.

        1. Gold Monster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Lol

    3. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That's just wrong. And it's not opinion, there's data that says its wrong.

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        He isn't that bad I just wanted to create a discussion.

        1. Home Run Baker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Fair enough. Let's not let an inconvenient truth get in the way of a good story. 😉

          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            😀

    4. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Didn't he get like 170 Pts last year?

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        162 yet somehow he was never considered that good of an FPL option

        1. Home Run Baker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          You're not really making any sense. Sorry.

        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Eh? I owned him for quite a while. It was only Gerrard occasionally playing and ruining his performance which annoyed me.

          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Dullard. 😉
            I want somehow to get annoyed and post a rant about why they have him over the other options.

    5. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Benteke will be on pens when he joins 😉

      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        There's no basis for that assumption.

    6. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I just don't like him lol...I wouldnt say hes a bad pick

    7. icywrists23
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      so don't get him.....

  2. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Articles like this should be for members only (statistics). I spent £12.50...

    I'm sorry if anyone is offended by my comment.

    Also great article James.

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      This article here? Is members only....

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        But you can see it 🙂

        1. Gazpilicueta
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          No....I really cant....

    2. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      it is members only numpty

    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lol, massive fail 😀

    4. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I shall changemy name to EpicFailsIbling

      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        what does it say? 😉

    5. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 18 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      We agree 😉

      Sorry, we should mention in the intro that it was members as those who are members see nothing different other than the category (which most folk miss).

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Filed under Members is a good clue. 🙂

      2. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I completely missed it sorry. (First time being a member so just getting the hand of things.

    6. Rider on the Storm
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      your comment is offending me but fun

    7. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Every Dog has its day.

  3. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    4th mid and 3rd striker combos

    jeez

    fries the brain.

    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      How much?

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        15.5 for the pair.

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          potentially 15 if I need to swap out Henessey

        2. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Ive gone Tekkers Ritchie, in your case probs Tekkers Chadli

          1. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Tekkers, Ritchie works for me

            Leaves me cash spare to swap Ward or Henessey out, or keep it banked towards Kun.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Have a night off. 🙂

      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        He's having a night off, he isn't thinking about the other 13 spots tonight at all 😉

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          😆

          The amount of space FPL occupies in my brain is surprisingly small

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            That is because you are, like Winnie the Pooh, a bear of very little ... 😉

          2. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            The proportion of the brain it occupies is massive though 😛

            1. JK - Cønt â­
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              ðŸ™

              I hate this place

              😥

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Ah. But we love you. Genuinely! 🙂

              2. The Light Knight
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                😳
                I would suggest a sabbatical but we all know where that ends 😉
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

    3. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Could do with a better 4th defender too 😉

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        And 2nd goalkeeper. Better yet just scrap the whole thing.

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I wish I had.

      2. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I don't have a 4th defender

        I have Azpi and 4 rotating for 2 spots

        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          A rotation might need a bit of tweaking though...

        2. Gazpilicueta
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          le meme

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

    4. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Wilson and Sterling then use the 1m saved to upgrade your defence to you kno who 😉

  4. Harper_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    expecting Benteke to reach 40% ownership me thinks

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      😯

      1. Harper_
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        and ings ownership to plummet...

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          To be honest, I don't know how much better Benteke is than Ings... and Ings works a lot harder, and would seem to suit the system better...

          I'm really not convinced on Benteke as a player.

          1. Harper_
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            I think ings is better in a direct style of play as he has pace and can run in behind defences. Benteke can make chances all on his own as he has shown at villa.

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      CtC & TFPL both have him rising in price tonight, better get a wriggle on. 😉

    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's on 25 now...you could be right.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I replied to you earlier Wakey, just to say it was purely my personal opinion. (on Bamford)

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Brill...I've been out dog walking. Yeah, my thoughts as well really. Iffy to start with

    4. European Bob
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Still don't see him settling quickly into they way they play. I'll be leaving him out to start with. Got Hendo and double Liverpool before and after SAS was and is generally a bad idea

  5. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    After Sterling's performance yesterday would you say he is a certain starter now?

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      always was.

    2. Theatre_Of_Screams
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I would

    3. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Surely.

    4. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      At £49 million, I would play him.

  6. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I've had a busy day, and now I've settled down into my favorite chair, with a nice drink.

    come on team, just make it one step better for me and tell me about the decent 4.0 Defender (s) that I can put into my team, which we didnt know about yesterday.

    oh and ps, any football streaming tonight?

  7. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Now that Benteke is confirmed to Liverpool how much do you think he will come in at?

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'd guess around 8.5

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      6.5

    3. InvertedWinger
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Price doesn't change

      1. Big Sum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Are you sure?

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yes, prices are fixed now.

    4. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lol

      8.5...

    5. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      8.1m after tonights price rise.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        DOH!!!
        8.6m I meant.... ah, forget it.

    6. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It's amazing that you still get people to bite after all this time 😆

    7. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Won't be allowed to play for his parent club

  8. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I am sorry, guys, but which team looks better? 🙂

    1. Schmeichel - Butland
    Azpi - Jenkinson - Martin - Francis - Kaboul
    Hazard - Ozil - Depay - STERLING - BENTALEB
    Aguero - Wilson - VARDY

    2. Schmeichel - Butland
    Azpi - Jenkinson - Martin - Francis - Kaboul
    Hazard - Ozil - Depay - TADIC/HENDO - WALTERS
    Aguero - Wilson - MITROVIC

    1. Big Sum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      3.Schmeichel - Butland
      Azpi - Jenkinson - Martin - Francis - Kaboul
      Hazard - Ozil - Depay - TADIC/HENDO - BENTALEB
      Aguero - Wilson - someone else

      1. Daaf
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Tough choice, since I would pick neither ;). If have to choose 2: that gives more options and Mitrovic could be Sakho, 1 is too weak imo with vardy and wilson starting every game and no 5th mid. Option number 3 with Sakho/Lukaku/Pelle is better than 1 & 2 in my opinion.

    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Neither - poor front 3

    3. TRIMM-TRABB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I don't really like either as all your money is in Aguero who almost certainly won't play a full 90 for the first 4 weeks

      But if I had to pick I'd say v1

  9. Aurora
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Here's why I'd stay clear of Benteke. For now...

    We know that Benteke feeds off headers- he's a physical player- and he's said that himself. As soon as Sherwood came to the fold, Benteke went from 2 goals in 16 games to 11 goals in 13. Sherwood knew where his strengths lay- in fact Benteke won more aerial duels than anyone in the country last year.

    By contrast, last year, Liverpool attempted fewer open play cross than anyone else in the league (409). We know that Rodgers likes a fluid "on the ground" style of play, and we've seen the problems that that caused for Andy Carroll. Liverpool simply didn't play to his strengths.

    What's more, Benteke had the worst passing accuracy of any outfield player at either Liverpool OR Villa...that's 39th out of 39 players. Just to add more doubt, add in some extra details such as the number of striking options that Liverpool have (Sturridge, Lambert, Balotelli, Origi, Borini) that can eat into his time as well as the fact that he is injury prone.

    To be a success at Liverpool either Liverpool's style has to change OR Benteke will have to.

    1. Takamba
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Good post

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Add in the fact he also has a conversion rate under 20%, including and excluding attempts from headers.

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't sound like you've seen much of Benteke.

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        That's putting it kindly. I got the impression he's never seen him play.

    4. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      You assume too much there Aurora.

      Benteke has more to his game than getting on the end of crosses.

      Pol didn't have so many open play crosses because they had no-one to receive them.

    5. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      the voice of reason has arrived. benteke = baloteli 2015/16.

      well maybe not quite that bad but... similar player

    6. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Tbf there was nobody to pass to at that Villa team.

    7. Henrzd
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeahh great post......he may just be another Carroll

      1. JamieLfc
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Physical player.. Decent technique and brilliant finisher. Why wouldn't he fit in with those qualities. Gives the Liverpool Attack something different going forward aswell

  10. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Poor Inggs ðŸ™

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, people keep misspelling his name ðŸ™

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        😆

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Doubt he cares. He got a dream move to Liverpool. Now he just has someone to compete with. If he's not good enough he's not good enough.

      1. Heytch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think he'll make it there. Energy to play as wide forward and Sturridge never fit and Sterling gone

  11. thattreblefeeling
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I done up a spreadsheet of corresponding results and total player points from last season's corresponding fixtures. I know points accumulation will differ, it was just to give me an idea of who performed well against said teams. I also put in opposite result in right hand side of brackets to see patteren against these teams if any.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fMIFAU8_Qi2ZjiURPLR237ZFnOzR_iDG4rhdsj9pN2o/edit?usp=docslist_api

    Let me know if problem accessing link I'll post excel

    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      https://public.tableau.com/views/FPLplayerstats2014-15/DetailedbyGameweek?%3AshowVizHome=no
      Stats table used to calculate points, handy bookmark props to creator

    2. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      nice work

      1. thattreblefeeling
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        cheers

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Very interesting, thanks for the link.

      1. thattreblefeeling
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        no probs

    4. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Cool thanks.

      Rooney Kane Diouf frontline? 🙂

      1. thattreblefeeling
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ha maybe. Talk of Diouf not nailed now, if it looks like he can nail start again definitely worth consideration.

  12. Super-Hans
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Was supposed to keep this one to myself. Under the radar as he is. But I have never been good at keeping secrets.
    What's your thoughts on Odemwingie? Classified as a midfielder. Cheap. Former striker who knows how to score goals? Was fairly lively in Stokes last friendly and was one-on-one whit the goalie. And was one of the few who was given the full 90 min.

    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Spent most of last season injured. If Stoke can find a place for him, and if he doesn't do a sulk...

    2. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      11 goals in the last 4 seasons. Would have to see an awful lot from him to make me even consider it.

      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        But how much can you expect from a 5.0 midfielder?

        1. Doolittle
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Oh is he only 5? Surely he's a huge rotation risk? If he can get a place in the starting 11 then could be interesting.

          1. Super-Hans
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            One to watch, for sure.

      2. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        He had a great season with us. Capable but tempremental

        1. Super-Hans
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          True.

    3. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Rotation, rotation, rotation.

      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I see him and Arnautovic as wingers. Who else? Diouf maybe, but there are not many in that position this year at Stoke.....

        1. Doolittle
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Joselu, Bojan, Arnautovic and Diouf - surely those 4 are likely to start?

          1. Super-Hans
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            ------Arnautovic - Bojan - Odemwingie-----------
            -----------------------Joselu---------------------------

            ...is what I'm hoping for.

            1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Walters is more nailed than both of those wide guys. And as I've shown below, Bojan is also a wide option if Adam plays. 🙂

          2. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            what about MvG or will he be a bit deeper?

            1. Super-Hans
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Probably in the double pivot, or?

        2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Walters plays from the right. Bojan can operate from the left when Adam plays #10, which is the only position Adam plays in...

          More than you think.

          1. Super-Hans
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ah....! Had forgotten about Walters...! Don't think Adams will affect Odem.

            1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Lol, I didn't say Adam would affect Odemwingie. 😕 I said Bojan is yet another wide option threat when Adam plays, as Adam only plays CAM.

              1. Super-Hans
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                I see your point. Cheers for the heads-up, mate!

                1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  No worries.

                  Basically there's Walters, Arnautovic, Bojan, Odemwingie as it stands competing for the two wide spots. If Charlie Adam doesn't play, then Bojan could play CAM with two of Walters, Arnie, Odem out wide.

                  Personally I think Walters is pretty nailed as it stands.

                  1. Super-Hans
                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    Totally agree. Thanks for enlighten me! 🙂

    4. Nurse Chilli
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I like it. Good to see the crack pipe is treating you well mate.

      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, NC! 🙂

    5. Super-Hans
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      But this conversation has been good. He is now out of my team. But will follow Stokes friendlies with a close eye....! Thanks, guys

  13. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Does this line up look a bit too risky?

    Pants / Butland
    Azpi / Alderweild / Morgan / Francis / Targett
    Ozil / Hazard / Depay / Hazard / Bentaleb
    Benteke / Rooney / Wilson

    I am just unsure on the Depay situation...

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely Hazardous.

    2. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry I mean Sterling instead of double Hazard

      1. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Don't think you need Depay when you've got Rooney. I'd get Mane and upgrade Targett,

  14. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Surprised I see so few Girouds... I think he is nailed on and a good pick for 9M !

    1. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's certainly not nailed on.

      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think and hope it's his place to lose

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's a good pick if he gets the minutes. That's definitely not guaranteed.

      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I can't see why he wouldn't get minutes

        1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          apparently signed a new deal, which makes you think he's been guaranteed starts

          1. Whazza
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            That and 14 league goals in 1860 minutes last season, why wouldn't he play..

        2. Doolittle
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          He'll get minutes, of course he will, but nailed on? Definitely not. Walcott has been talking himself up as a striker, and Wenger has done the same in the past. Giroud didn't start every game last season, and that was without a fully fit Walcott. He won't start all games this year.

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            This.
            I think he'll get the minutes. But he's far from a nailed important player to the team like other nailed players are.

          2. Whazza
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Not many will start all games this year.. I will get Walcott too so not worried if Giroud misses the odd game. If it looks like Walcott is going to be first choice striker I will ofc change Giroud. We can call him a little punty but I think he will come good.

        3. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Walcott being primed for the centre forward role

    3. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      he should play majority of the games, the odd game he will be rested.

      Start of last season in the first game for instance I think he was benched to the suprise of many

      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah that was a bit weird

    4. IndyStarJack
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Good pick, the rotation risk is too much for me

  15. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I'm going camping next week, and apparently you cant run anywhere on the campsite...

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Bears will love it.

    2. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      you have to "ran" because its past tents....

      1. Mid-Table Obscurity
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        log off man

      2. The Enlightener
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ouch

    3. The Enlightener
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Here's another bad one: Better stay away from the beans, then.

  16. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Does ownership play into the Depay(21.8%) vs Mata (5.7%) debate?

      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ah cheers

      2. Flynniesta
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Wow, what a good read, cheers TM.
        Still confused though. Inclined to stick with Fab at the mo....I think.

    1. Bauerhaus 24
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Not really. Going with Mata holds slightly more risk, and slightly more potential reward, vice versa for Depay. Besides, I'd imagine top 10k ownership will be much more even

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Top 10K won't be established & whoever does better will have more ownership there.

        1. Bauerhaus 24
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Sorry, I meant by the hardcore players (i.e. top 10k last year). My point was Depay will be held more by the masses who most on here won't be competing with come May.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            If Depay does well then come May, they will still be scoring well.

            1. Bauerhaus 24
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              I haven't made myself clear - most casuals give up by Christmas... this is what I'm referring to that 'skews' the ownership, for want of a better word. I could be wrong though

              1. FC Nymph
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Then rotate him or sell him throw him out in your wild card.. Depays value will rise until Xmas be warned...

    2. Louis99
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No, a lot of people would say depay by first instinct but the few people that think it through would say mata

    3. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Mata is (at the moment) a better pick than Depay IMO. That makes his lower ownership a plus.

  17. Kizza_10
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can I get peoples thoughts or ratings out of ten please.

    Courtois
    Cedric Mertesacker Azpili
    Hazard Cazorla Hendo Silva
    Deeney Benteke Rooney

    Subs:
    Hennessy, Targett, Baker, Wanyama

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      10/10

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        As a Liverpool fan, you'd have Henderson over Milner? Why?

        1. GreennRed
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Have neither. Better attacking options for same price or less.

          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Such as?

            1. GreennRed
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Ritchie, Cabaye (dependant on him at 10), maybe Ibe, Grealish, Arnautovic, Adam, Bolasie, Puncheon ......................

              Anyone not holding mids !

              1. Wilshere Knowledge
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Neither are holding mids though, they're both playing in front of a holding mid.

                Grealish is in a poor team, with no decent striker, not great fixtures, and managed just 1 assist in 800 minutes last season, and you think he's a better shout?

                1. GreennRed
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  He's cheaper and he should improve on his first season. At least he's primarily an attacking player. Then he'll sign for Ireland 🙂

                  Who are they playing in front of ? Can or Lucas ? They're mainly defensive mids, not attacking mids. Better go for a more attacking player I reckon.

                  1. Wilshere Knowledge
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    They were playing 433 in the pre-season games, and Allen and Lucas were taking turns as the defensive midfielder. (Can not yet back from the U21 tournament)

                    1. GreennRed
                      • 14 Years
                      10 years, 4 months ago

                      Check this. So many ways Rodgers could go.

                      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2015360-complete-analysis-of-jordan-hendersons-liverpool-role

                      I know both of them are well capable of being attacking forces, I just think a more usually attacking player is a better pick until we know the story. If I had to pick either to be the attacker it'd be Henderson.

                      1. Wilshere Knowledge
                        • 12 Years
                        10 years, 4 months ago

                        I'd certainly advocate Hendo over Milner as well.

                        I'm sure they'll at least start 433, but if roles do change, it would be something to look at.

                        Hendo's main strengths are getting involved at both end, though.

        2. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Hendo is the focal point to everything that happens in the team. There'll be weeks where Milner outscored him but in pretty set on Hendo. Crazy amount of assists last season when he was the water carrier in the midfield for Gerrard. Now he's the main man

        3. Kizza_10
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Will Henderson not be on pens,free kicks and corners?

          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Is Milner not better at free kicks and corners?

            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Coutinho takes corners too.

            2. GreennRed
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              That's the thing. One will hold and one will go forward so neither might have great returns. Clyne could have better FPL stats for 5.5m, some CS and the odd assist and less frequent goal plus baps. Listening to Talksport now and they reckon Ibe will push hard for a spot. Benteke, Firmino, Coutinho, likely decent attacking returns.

          2. Jimmers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Tekkers on pens.

            1. n-doggg
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              whats the route to aguero and sanchez?

  18. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Whose place is Britos likely to take in the Watford back 4? Angella?

    -----Nyom------Britos------Prodl------Holebas as the likely back 4?

    Or is Britos just a squad player?

    1. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Think we are going to have to wait for some friendlies. Looking a minefield already

  19. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What was the name of the poster who had a Woy/Lukaku grav?

    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Watchu talking about Willis?

      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Did he use to troll Daily Mail comments?

        1. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          *or she

  20. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    http://prntscr.com/7vr1xp Ratings, mates, please. 🙂

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      6

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Not bad. What u don't like?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          The screenshot loses 2 points. The forward loses 2 more.

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            U really hate Mitrovic, ha?

            1. Nice to Finally Michu
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              As an fpl option and as a Pl striker I do too

              1. Prøphet
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                based on ?

                1. Nice to Finally Michu
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Following the lad

    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Stop trying so hard to be different Dusan. Mitrovic, Bamford and Redmond aren't players you want to start with. Pick one if you're desperate for a punt.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I am not trying to be diferrent. I think they will do well.

  21. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Article on Pelle

    http://www.triggerlips.com

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      before I read it, I think hes great.....now lets go see what they said...

    2. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 4 months ago

      good read

    3. hagop
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      waitin for JRod article 🙂

    4. Ludo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He did get 8 goals and 3 assists in the first half of the season, with 4 goals in the second half.

      More interestingly though, at home he managed 11 goals and 1 assist, compared to 1 goal and 1 assist away, which came in GW3 and GW5 respectively.

      He went on long runs of blanks, but was actually still very consistent and predictable - in decent home matches, he almost always scored. Against strong opposition or away from home, he did nothing.

    5. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers. Like the Milner bit too.

    6. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      thanks, very good post from one of best posters

  22. Girasoli
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I wrote a few years ago about value for money. Scribe of the time Andy was quick to tell me I was talking cr@p. But I'm not, am I. Limited budget, you need points per million. Based on this year's values and last year's scoring, the best return of points per mill is:

    Fabianski 30.2, Mignolet 29.8
    Jagielka 25.8, Clyne 25.8, Ivano 25.6, Bertrand 25.5, Lescott 25.4
    Ki SY 23.4, Brunt 23.3, Hendo 23.1, Chadli 22.9, Puncheon 21.3
    Berahino 22.8, Ulloa 21.7, Kane 20.1.

    Even with Kane's inflated price this season, he still looks good value. Now to find this season's value new players.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I agreed with you then, and I agree with you now. Hello. 🙂

    2. Girasoli
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      But recognizing you need a double-points scoring captain.

    3. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Good post. I don't think you're talking crap.

      How many of those players would you have in your team this seaosn? Last season I never had Chadli at a good time. In fact every time I did have him, and started him he didn't feature!!! Then I would take him out and the next week he would score 12 pts :|.

      Is he nailed on for Spurs this season? Also quite tempted by Lescott with Pulis in charge especially.

    4. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      This only really works if you play 15 players each week.

    5. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      yeah, it's another defence heavy side isn't it

      I'm leaning...

    6. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      What would the value 15-man-squad for 2013/14 have been? Any of the same players?

    7. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Excellent post. I agree with this type of analysis and find it very useful. Thank you.

    8. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      You need points per million I agree but you need to optimise this for a £100m starting budget. You also need at least one player you can captain regularly.

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Also if you're playing a game where the players in our team are static and not dynamic such as the Sun game or UFPL this is a more useful concept, however, FPL is a fluid beast and one that can't be so simply broken down to ppm.

    9. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That midfield.

      I'm all for pricing and points against price but it's just too narrow in scope.
      I price players up for what will represent value before the seasons pricing then assess against that.

      It allows me to have the likes of a Yaya rate very highly whereas straight points per mil (without last year's price and mins also accounted for) you will end up like you have with cheapies only in the mid or just all the good players in the 5.5-7 range

      My 2cents but overall think you're far from mad. Value is the most important thing in any budget or bankroll!

    10. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Having right players at the right time is also a factor. What about those who only played parts of the season like ozil and Walcott? Stats would be skewed. I agree you can use aspects of this to get a couple of these players in but considering it won't take into account how many mins they played last season and also can't factor in new signings, it's a case of using the info to help you with one or two decision without using it to pick your team.

      Add to that Clyne at Liverpool, Bertrand without Clyne and new soton defence, ulloa game time etc etc.

    11. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Defenders always come out well in points per million, but playing 5 at the back never works.

      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        And Kane being the lowest PPM of that team shows that there's plenty of relevant info not included (shouldn't it be PPMPG).

        Kane was the best value player last season by a country mile.

        1. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          It's based on this year's values.

          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ha! Didn't read that, oops.

            My point on defenders still stands, though 🙂

  23. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Why is Sakho.. who has played and done well in a season in the EPL and is the main striker at WHM priced 1 million cheaper than Payet who has never played in the EPL? i want Payet but cant justify paying 1 million more than sakho so i end up restructuring my team 😆

    1. Kanu Feel It
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It's a blessing. Don't question gifts from god.

      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Sakho takes up a striker spot though and they've have already been booked by Benteke/Aguero and one of Costa/Rooney

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      8 goals and 17 non-FPL assists is why. 😉

  24. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      10/10 😀

    2. Wheato182
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Stunning

    3. dcarlito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'm not sure about your keeper, defence, midfield or strikers 🙂

    4. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Too far below the radar for my liking.

    5. melvinmbabazi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      RMT Please

      Cech
      Darmian, Azpi, Huth
      Depay,Hazard,Ritchie,Wally
      Rooney, Costa, Deeney

      Rudd, Wanyama,Targett, Baker

      Any Opinions?

      1. Hooky
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Prefer the first one you posted

        1. melvinmbabazi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Lol

      2. ​
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I really like it

      3. blank
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Triple united.. I'm gonna pass out.

      4. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Darmian? LVG has said he's behind Valencia. Although that could be a big fat lie. LVG seems to be playing with the media at the mo.

  25. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    When is Liverpool's next preseason match?

    Want to see how Tekkers fits in. Surely a steal at 8.5

    1. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Possibly on pens but hendo is captain...

      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Tekkers will be on pens

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Why?

          1. Jimmers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Strikers prerogative and hendo only took them because Gerrard was out

            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Benteke isn't a great penalty taker though, and Hendo looks like a player wanting to take on responsibility at Pool.

              I cant see Benteke fighting Hendo for penalties upon arriving at his first big club.

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Doesn't matter what he wants. It's up to the manager. And he should put Bentekkers on pens.

          2. Sweetpea
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Cos he said so, I expect

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Friday. But he won't play

      Should play next week Saturday

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Fits like a glove. Granted it's OJ Simpson's glove, but still.

  26. Isco Disco
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can anyone explain to me what the numbers Doosra keeps posting next to team names mean?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Coordinates.

      1. Isco Disco
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        No, really...

      2. Frank Black
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        To the Mad Island.

    2. AlCapwnUK
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      doubt even Doosra can explain.

      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        7
        3
        42
        14
        9/11

        Illuminati confirmed

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Fixture difficulty.

  27. The 12th Man
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    “…Second star to the right — and straight on ’til morning.”

  28. Starvaiger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I have 4.5 left in bank. Where best to use it in this team?

    Butland (Speroni)

    Azpilicueta / Cédric / Alderweireld / Pudil

    Sánchez / Depay / Tadic / Bolasie / Wanyama

    Benteke / Rooney / Bamford

    1. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Buy a 5th defender

      1. Starvaiger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Lol, sorry, it's Turner

    2. Kizza_10
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Very risky not having Hazard, I would put him instead of Sanchez for the start of the season.

      1. Djmc119
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Agree, as Sanchez is confirmed to miss the first two games

        1. Djmc119
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I also think Bamfofd is a huge risk

      2. Starvaiger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Great, thanks.

    3. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Think you need at least one of Hazard, Fab or Costa

    4. Mav3rick
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Uprading on of Wanayama or Bamford? Tadic is a fairly dodgy pick too isn't he, in terms of starting place in the Southampton team I mean?

      https://ratemyteam.uk - Please Rate Responsibly

      1. Starvaiger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, could probably spread out the load. Wasnt' sure on Tadic but there are plenty of other 7/8s i can replace him with.

        Thanks a lot

  29. Pasqualinho
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Liverpool simply have to sell Rickie Lambert now. They need to make some room so Danny Ings has somewhere to sit.

    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I saw somwhere that hes on his way to West Brom

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I can't even see him getting in their team.

  30. Twisted Saltergater
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone get tickets for Euro 2016?! Managed to be allocated 4 tickets in a Last 16 round match at the new Lille Métropole stadium! Get in!!

    1. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. Well done!

      Put in a huge potential outlay and all for 2 tickets to 2 matches by came up empty ðŸ™

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ahhh well unlucky. I know someone at work who applied for something like 10 games along with all his 5-a-side mates applying too. They've ended up with around 24 tickets which is just ridiculous when other people miss out.

        Hopefully you can pick some up when more tickets go on sale, plus returns.

    2. Guy Demel's SH
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, 4 tickets for a last group game and 4 tickets for a QF. Both at Bordeaux, about an hours drive from my in-laws holiday home 🙂

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Result! I applied for 2 matches both in Lille, one during the group stages and this one so definitely got a bit lucky to get the better game (on paper). Can't wait!

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Applied for about 10 games, got tickets for 1: Marseille on Saturday 19th March. Just booked the hotel. Buzzing! Bonjooooour South of France weekend 😀

      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        March? 19th? Saturday 11th June!

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Haha, was about to say you'll be there nice and early before the rush 😉

          Nice one! Not sure yet whether I'm going to go with 3 mates or take the missus and our 2 kids. Just realised it's our anniversary on the same day lol.

          1. il Brutto
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Friends it is then.

    4. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Who did you have to bribe to pull that off?

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        UEFA are all above board. I won't have a bad word said about them 😉