Scout Notes

More pre-season problems for Man United as Liverpool dominate

There were contrasting fortunes for Manchester United and Liverpool in their pre-season meeting this weekend.

While Jurgen Klopp’s side once again looked like a team worth trusting with Fantasy Premier League investment, the reasons to avoid Manchester United continue to grow.

We’ve taken a look at the big clash for Scout Notes…

Manchester United 1-4 Liverpool

  • Goals: Andreas Pereira | Sadio Mané (£9.5m), Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m), Sheyi Ojo, Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m)
  • Assists: None | Mohamed Salah (£13.0m), Shaqiri, Andrew Robertson (£6.0m), Ben Woodburn

Manchester United’s defensive woes worsened over the weekend as they were thrashed 4-1 by Liverpool in Michigan. Chris Smalling (£6.0m) pulled up in the warm-up and was forced out of the game, while Luke Shaw (£5.0m) sat out the match too. That meant that Eric Bailly (£5.5m) had to play in the meeting while carrying an injury himself, and Jose Mourinho also revealed that Nemanja Matic (£5.0m) would miss the start of the season.

“Smalling? I’ve no idea (about a return). Shaw? I’ve no idea. Matic had a surgery. Yes, of course (he is out for the start of the season). I don’t know (about a return). He came from the World Cup with an injury and the time he had to rest in the holiday was not enough to resolve the problem.”

Such a slew of injuries could seriously damage United’s clean sheet prospects for the beginning of the season with Antonio Valencia (£6.5m) potentially out for a month, Diogo Dalot (£5.5m) not available until September and Marcos Rojo (£5.0m) and Matteo Darmian (£5.0m) destined for exits. There hasn’t been too much interest in the Red Devil’s defenders thus far, Bailly the most popular with just 5.8 percent backing. However, David De Gea (£6.0m) has become the most fashionable shot stopper and he could be set for some sales in the coming days. Since Friday, the Spaniard has already lost 0.4 percent ownership, with Ederson (£5.5m) or Alisson Becker (£5.5m) potential alternatives to the United man.

Man United were equally poor at the opposite end of the field, mustering just three shots on goal. One of those was Andreas Pereira’s impressive first-half free-kick but forward players Alexis Sánchez (£10.5m) and Juan Mata (£6.5m) were starved of service playing in front of a second-string midfield. Anthony Martial (£7.5m) was not involved again and it looks as if the problems are mounting for Mourinho, which may put Fantasy managers off owning United assets.

“Antonio Valencia comes from holiday – I think too much holiday for him. His condition was not good when he was back, then injury and also go back. Anthony Martial has the baby and after the baby is born – beautiful baby, full of health, thank God – he should be here and he is not here. So we have Alexis (Sanchez) and (Juan) Mata who play every minute of every match and now we have Real Madrid and after that Bayern Munich and that’s our start.”

On the other hand, Liverpool demonstrated their credentials for Gameweek 1 investment with another strong performance. Of particular note was Sadio Mané dispatching his second penalty-kick of pre-season, despite the fact that Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) had won it. Also on the pitch at the time was James Milner (5.5m), long-time taker, and Fabinho (£6.0m) whose history suggested he could be in the conversation. The fact that they did not step up for this one does imply that the Senegalese forward could be set to take spot kicks in the league this season. Salah’s penalty record at Liverpool is scored one, missed one, while Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has missed two from three he has taken.

Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m) put on another good display which could see him force his way into the starting line-up earlier than expected, especially with Firmino still absent. The Swiss international played in an advanced role against Manchester United providing an assist and scoring a spectacular bicycle kick in the second-half. Also pushing for first-team involvement is Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m) whose substitute appearance in this match provided his fourth goal of pre-season – no Liverpool player has more so far.

The battle between Joe Gomez (£5.0m) and Ragnar Klavan (£4.5m) to start at centre-back alongside Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) for Gameweek 1 was not furthered by this particular match. Gomez started Liverpool’s previous encounter with Klavan replacing him at half-time, this time around it was the Estonian who got the nod from the beginning. He played 45 minutes before Nathaniel Phillips came on for him while Gomez replaced van Dijk in the 65th minute. We will definitely need to follow this situation more throughout the summer.

MANCHESTER UNITED XI (3-5-1-1): Grant (J Pereira 45’); Fosu-Mensah, Bailly, Tuanzebe (Gomes 81’); Mitchell (Fred 71’), McTominay, A Pereira, Herrera (Bohui 81’), Darmian; Mata (Chong 71’), Sánchez (Williams 81’).

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Grabara (Kelleher 45’); Moreno (Robertson 65’), Klavan (Phillips 45’), van Dijk (Gomez 65’), Camacho (Chrivella 65’); Lallana (Woodburn 45’), Fabinho (Jones 65’), Milner (Grujic 65’); Mané (Ojo 45’), Solanke (Sturridge 65’), Salah (Shaqiri 45’).

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1,342 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Eden Wizard
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Maurizio Sarri confident Alvaro Morata has Chelsea future

    9.0 anyone?

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11452962/maurizio-sarri-hails-chelsea-signing-jorginho-as-a-wonderful-player

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He was the worst player I owned last season, so not unless I see some form first.

      1. Rotation
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Likewise.

        Could be very good value if he hits the form he's capable of though.

        Big If.

    2. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Still not confident he will stay, there was a meeting in Nice yesterday where Chelsea proposed Morata + 55m swap for Higuain + Rugani.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, if Higuain arrives Morata will be irrelevant. Get him on Thurs evening when the tran window closes.

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Is Higuain not too fat for the premier league?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          And too old! He’s 31 in a couple months

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          If he's Sarri's man, Sarri plays him. I wouldn't be getting him myself.

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I think he’d be a bad signing to be honest, very overrated player

            1. Jealous Viper
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              How exactly is he overrated?

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      At 9.0 that is a good deal, I’d get him if he’s starting to be honest. But Lacazette also is very interesting, and Firmino. And Arnie. And Zaha. And Tosun. And King. And Austin. And even Vardy. And Aguero. And Auba. Not Kane though 🙂

      Too many strikers all of a sudden, I think it’ll be more important than ever this year not to get sucked into Hokey cokey’ing between them trying to chase last weeks points

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        For me the cheap second striker spot is a trap for flexibility.

  2. Reminders: Get a grav, and RMTs
    Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A few reminders as we approach the beginning of the new season:

    1. Make sure you have a grav! (The picture beside your screen name.) It's a good way to help you get replies for your comments as it helps other users recognize you and your posts.

    From the FAQ at the bottom of the page:
    Head on over to http://www.gravatar.com and register for an account (make sure you register with the same email as the one you are registered with here). Choose an image, and this will be associated with all of your comments on site. Your gravatar image should appear next to your comments within roughly 24 hours.

    2. Posting your team is fine in moderation but don't spam it. You shouldn't post your team multiple times within an hour, for example.

    3. Try to respond to other users' RMTs. Not only is it a good way to understand things you could do for your team, it's the only way the system works. If everyone responds to 10 RMTs for every 1 they post, the feedback user's get will be more useful and the pages won't be so cluttered. Responding also helps build goodwill.

    We will have RMT Community Articles coming soon - please post your RMTs in those articles! The mods will be notified and will spend time responding. Again in those Community Articles, users should try to respond more than they post

    1. Rotation
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Excellent.

      Roll on the new season!

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, roll on!

        1. Rotation
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Thank you 😉

          1. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            😀

        2. kingcolesy
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Ralls on

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      can someone tag scotty b on this please

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I should have also said:

        If users have a problem with another user spamming RMTs, please flag it. Mods will then take a look and speak with the user if that's needed

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          i will never flag another comment since all the ones i ever flagged still end up being there afterwards if i have a problem i will sort it myself
          cheers

          1. Eden Wizard
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Haha savage!

          2. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            As long as sorting it yourself is done in a way that isn't abusive I don't mind that

          3. Now I'm Panicking
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Best said in a Liam Neeson voice.

          4. LosBlancos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            lad

    3. Mikeharbrw
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      RMT etiquette is always appreciated. I'll try and comment on a couple if I'm posting one of my own. The only justification for a repeat post within an hour is if you somehow manage to get the last post on a page and don't get any comments on it.

    4. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You the man Geoff!

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      About sums it up.

    6. That Fantasy Guy
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      This is great info, thank you very much for setting the tone. One of the many highlights of this site is the non toxic community

    7. SwissWavey
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Better check my grav, pretty sure I'd set one up before...

    8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      It should also be mentioned the gravs need to be suitable, this is a family friendly site.

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Important, yes

      2. Fantasy Gold
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        If gravs were covered up, I’d be certain that this reply was from FPL Virgin 🙂

      3. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I don't think many families hang out here

        1. FPL Xylophone
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          My dad is hanging out here but yet to discover his account....

    9. SW6
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Geoff just a head up for the pre-season tab. Fulham played two friendlies the other day - the 0-0 with Fiorentina, but also we won 3-1 vs Athletic Bilbao.

      Kebano goal, Seri assist
      Kamara goal,
      O.g., Sessegnon assist

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, we'll get that added

    10. Jarnathan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think it would be useful to add a feature whereby we can aquire goodwill through some kind of measurement system - granted by community members for example. It would also help users evaluate better whether the advice can be trusted.

    11. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Would also be appreciate if people could tailor their advice to the poster and the team/strategy.

      It's no good listing the players you have in your team in an attempt to bash them into a template. Try to put yourselves in a position where you're open to the idea that the RMTer actually values the players in their team, and suggest a few player/strategical changes that you think could give them an edge over their current team.

      You're also welcome to ask questions bout the team rather than assume the RMT has put no thought into it (even if this is the case). It's nice be generous with your assumptions about the poster rather than to take a condescending, elitist stance.

    12. CL4PTRAP
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Great stuff, I remember it got a bit heated in here with some RMTs last season. They can get very irritating, especially when posted as names with no real question other than RMT pls. If we are going to do so, we surely require more information on why a particular set of players have been selected. RMTs must have more behind the thought process than these are 15 players I could pick for my 100 mil budget, what do you guys think? In this way, the discussion adds value to the community and doesn't drain its energy with relentless, meaningless RMTs.

    13. Willos Wanderers
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Can someone tell me how to stop my grav appearing elsewhere (particularly calendar invites for conference calls). Need to try and maintain a professional image at work!!

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Aside from setting a work appropriate grav, I'm not sure!

        There must be a way to limit it to certain websites

        Anyone know this?

      2. A.T
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Set up a new email address and use it for here and gravatar only.

      3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Do what I do and create a separate email account for fantasy football sites . That way you keep everything separate

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Would be good to just upload a picture to FFS imo. I wonder if the benefits of Gravatar are really worth it.

          That said, I my email account doesn't have my Gravatar displayed so I must have disabled it somehow, maybe I just went to the email account and removed the image.

      4. darrellb
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        oh damn. no wonder i got blocked by the property agency when i emailed them about a house with a rooftop that overlooks the city.

    14. FPL Xylophone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Thank you for the reminder! Done and done!

    15. Lets Talk About 19 Baby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I've been playing fantasy football games for some years now.
      Been a fully paid member for around three season's.
      Every year i struggle to find good league's to join. I have a team set up in all of the following games. FPL, SKY, TELEGRAPH, BUNDESLIGA. Any invites to join a free to play league, would be greatly appreciated.

    16. SuperMario
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Great stuff thanks

  3. Neo-Viper
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    D Silva nailed ?

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Don’t think so unfortunately, would love either him or Bilva to be nailed

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        ahh! i was hoping he would start majority of the matches in their first 10 games.

        Who instead of him then?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          No idea, if Mahrez fit, him & Sané +0.5 ITB to do Sanè > KDB might be a good plan

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Too much of rotation risk maybe?
            I'm getting 2 def + 1 mid from city

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Could be Bilva, or Mahrez if he mends in time or Kevin if he surprises us. We just don't know.

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      City = nobody nailed.
      Worth the risk? Absolutely.

    3. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      If Mahrez is injured and kdb isnt back i think so yes.

  4. Otis Kay
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A) Sane + Firmino

    B) Mane + Morata + £0.5m

    ??????????????????????

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. GAMBIT
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A by a country mile

    3. mitiozo
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Do you have Salah?
      If you have a decent option where to spend the extra £0.5 I would go with B

    4. Akshay9971
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A, only if Sane is nailed

    5. nn11
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A

  5. falafel
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    1- Eriksen, Zaha
    2- Firmino, Cariney

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      1 for sure.

    2. Otis Kay
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      1

    3. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      1 costs more

      1. nn11
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        2

    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      1

  6. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Think I should consider a spot in my defence for bellerin or kolasinac after gw3. Bargains

    1. Mikeharbrw
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      There's a good post on reddit about how Emery loves to rotate his fullbacks- I guess if you're waiting until gw3 you can see if this is the same at Arse

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Not gonna happen. Maybe at LB but not for bellerin with 63 yo lichesteiner

        1. Mikeharbrw
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Then why sign Lichsteiner in the first place?

          1. CR7alwachi
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Because Debuchy left in January. The gulf in quality between Bellerín and Lichtsteiner is massive. Monreal is finished as evident by his performances at the end of last season and Kolašinac is rubbish when he’s not playing as a wing-back. Bellerín will get 30+ league games.

        2. CostaCoffee
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          If you look at the statistics he’s always rotated his full backs even when one was a much better option than the other- he rotated Tremoulinas at Sevilla

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, it's highly likely. Leno is your best route into the defence.

        1. Shatner's Bassoon
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Leno definitely got the gig over Cech?

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Bellerin does look like a potential bargain, especially if he picks up a goalscoring streak, you can’t go wrong for 5.5

    3. ponsio22
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No

  7. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Do you think stephens is nailed again this season?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sure, great for a steady 2 points, if that's what you're after.

      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        for a 4.5 mid, what do you think he's after? anything more that 2 is wishful thinking

  8. mitiozo
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Are the points for Man Utd defenders been reduced in the Rate My Team data?

    1. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'm sure that they're factoring in starting uncertainty

  9. ponsio22
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Assuming that Liverpool will score a ton of goals this year. And keita looking like her will play further forward, with either; Milner, Fabinho and Henderson playing deeper. Can only assume that he is real value at 7.5

    I’ve got him in my team and I’m absolutely buzzing

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      What if wijnaldum plays beside him with hendo at wc holidays

    2. Mikeharbrw
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Think Keita will be one of the highest scoring 7.5s its just I think Mane, Firmino & Robertson will both absolutely boss their brackets as well.

    3. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You`re buzzing about a guy that scored 17 in his whole career and costs 7.5?

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        his last season in Bundesliga stats are better than those of Bobby F.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          ...when he last played in Bliga

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Bobby EPL: goal every 180, return every 120, 1 yc
            Keita Bundesliga: goal every 335, return every 180, 7 yc

            How?

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              2014/15

              Bobby F = 7 goals/10 assist/2918 mins

              2017/18

              Keita = 6 goals/5 assist/1966 mins

              1. CloudSky
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Thats reaching.

  10. KompanyThePeople
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Best 4.5 gk?

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Patricio

    2. Goodnight Kiwi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Fabianski

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Fab for me; Patricio has a strong case. Foster for early fixtures.

      1. KompanyThePeople
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah i'm tempted to go for Fabianski due to the save points but his high ownage pulls me towards Foster

    4. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Patricio

    5. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Fab

    6. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Ryan overlooked on here imo

  11. falafel
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    1- Firmino, Maguire, Sane
    2- Salah, Cedric, Zaha

    1. Goodnight Kiwi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      2 for me

    2. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    3. ritzyd
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      1

  12. Andy Mac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Torn between:

    A) Aguero - Lacazette
    or
    B) Auba - Firmino

    Thoughts??

    1. Goodnight Kiwi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Auba & Arnie

      1. Andy Mac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Arnie is already in both options as my 3rd striker!

        1. Goodnight Kiwi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Nice. Well I have Auba, Aguero and Arnie. But wouldn't drop Auba at the expense of Aguero. I would look to a cheaper striker like Zaha or Wood over Firmino myself....

          1. Andy Mac
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Ok, thanks! Do think Kun is a bit of a risk...

    2. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Neither really appeal to me, sorry. Firmino would be a good option but I don’t believe he is fit.

      1. Andy Mac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        So who would be your alternatives then?

  13. nn11
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    What are people’s thoughts on the below?

    Ederson boruc
    Alonso Arnold ward Daniels stephens
    Mane sane Erikson malone cairney
    Kun Firmino arnie

    Any help is much appreciated!!

    1. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Looks solid. Firmino not fit yet, so you could downgrade to a 4.5 forward and upgrade either a mid or def.

  14. M3R
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    If you captain Salah every game, is there sense in not owning Kane, Aguero or Auba given the high price reflects captaincy option and going cheaper upfront? Just wondering if captain Salah and a spread of budget is something to consider?

    1. Mikeharbrw
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You've got a point, there's only 1 game of the opening 5 I wouldn't captain Salah for

    2. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You are correct.

    3. KompanyThePeople
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Only if Salah delivers every week, then you can consider captaining him every GW

      1. M3R
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        If he doesn't pretty much do that then you can make a case he's not worth having anyway?

    4. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Players you don't captain score points too.

      1. M3R
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        This is true of course but I'm thinking say, Eriksen and KdB for 20 or Kane and a 7.5. If i never captained Kane would it make more sense to go for the first two.

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Would you never captain Kane though?

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I'm coming around to Kane from the start.

            You getting him from the off..correct?

            1. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              I am unless it is confirmed he isn't starting GW1 - first two fixtures are mint, and I can switch easily to Auba GW3 if I need to.

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Kane and Salah?

                1. Now I'm Panicking
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  And Aguero 😉

                  1. HamezMace
                    • 9 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    4-4-2?

                    1. Now I'm Panicking
                      • 9 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      13 outfield starters (hopefully) so flexible, but 3-4-3 probably mostly.

                      Currently on:

                      Ederson 4.0
                      TAA Cedric 4.5 4.0 4.0
                      Salah Mane Jota Neves Cairney
                      Kane Aguero Wilson

                      But this depends on there being two likely 4.0 starters. Wilson may well also become Andone whch will give me 1.0 to use elsewhere.

                      1. HamezMace
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        I don't think I'd be happy with two 4.0m defenders.
                        As you say, Wilson downgrade could help with this, Sorloth looks good in pre-season, if he nails down a place it could help.

                      2. HamezMace
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        Thanks for sharing your team

                      3. Now I'm Panicking
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        99% likely it will change though 🙂

              2. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                I played around and my team looks ok with him and Salah.

                1. HamezMace
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  I'm struggling to make Kane and Salah work, especially with a decent 2nd striker in a 4-4-2.

                  I'm coming around to Mane instead of Salah as he seems to have been made penalty taker now.

                  1. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    3-4-3

                    1. HamezMace
                      • 9 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      Kane + 2 x 7m-6m strikers?

          2. M3R
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I'd certainly be tempted, yes. I guess this is the crux of my thought - is a choice of having him as big hitter captain and extra points worth the lesser strength in other positions? Quite possibly but the other way makes for some really balanced looking teams

            1. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Absolutely - so many different ways to go - all part of the fun 🙂

    5. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Well yes, that's pretty much the received wisdom.

    6. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Kane doesn’t score in August. Aguero is explosive, so I’m afraid of not starting him

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        How about when he's benched for Jesus?

      2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        England don't win penalties...

        I have both Kane and Aguero.

        1. M3R
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I've always played it like that, having the big strikers and rotating the armband but got that wrong overlooking Salah a lot last year. Do you have those two and Salah? How does that affect the rest of the squad?

          1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I have those two and Salah.

            Defence has PVA/ Robertson/ Luiz
            Mid has Ozil and Richarlison

  15. Goodnight Kiwi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Coleman or Bellerin?

    1. Coys96
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Coleman

    2. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Bellerin

    3. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Coleman has the fixtures. Both under new managers so it's hard to tell how they'll do. Would rather wait and see if Jagielka starts as he is only 4.5.

      1. Goodnight Kiwi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I'm looking at deploying an attacking backs team. PVA, Mendy, Robbo and Coleman/Bellerin. Think I'm leaning towards Coleman

      2. Francescoli
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Everton are leaking like a sieve in pre season

        1. ritzyd
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah - wouldn't touch everton defensively except for pickford for the save points

      3. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Everton are bloody awful atm.
        Marco Silva is good but not a magician.
        He plays high press and you need pace for that. Sadly lacking at Everton.

    4. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Coleman to start. Arsenal defence becomes viable from GW3 onwards so perhaps make a plan to get one of them then.

  16. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Bettinelli
    Tomkins Bailly Cedric
    Salah Sané Mané Richarlison Jota
    Aguero Arnie

    Fabianski; Boly Wan-B Quaner

    Please pick it apart

    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Liking the CPL double up in D.
      Not keen on the gks. Why don't you do Ederson with a 4.0 and you don't have to bother for the rest of the season?
      Would rather have Eriksen than two Liverpud in midfield.

      Rating: 5/10

      1. Francescoli
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers

    2. DivocksHighSocks
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'd downgrade that midfield a touch - can't see your defense getting many points at all as it stands

  17. AndyCook
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Hazard or KDB in draft?

      1. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        If you're doing the draft now, I'd have KDB in case Hazard buggers off.

        1. AndyCook
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks, that was my stance. KDB probably a more consistent 200 point player too, Hazard with possibly a higher season long ceiling

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Neither likely to feature GW1

          1. AndyCook
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Sorry I meant in the draft game!

        3. KompanyThePeople
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Is Pedro nailed at 6.5?

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            No, that's why he's 6.5m

            1. KompanyThePeople
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Hope that Jota will deliver then.

        4. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          WHam def line up?

          Diop to play?

          1. SW6
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            A bit unknown still. Hard to say who is favourite between him and Balbuena, could very easily even be both starting

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              thks

          2. The Wanton Trader
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I’ve got him on my bench.
            Seems like a reasonable punt...

        5. KompanyThePeople
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Also I need someone at 5.5 instead of Bailly (not so sure about him starting)

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            PvA, Coleman, Bellerin, Burnley. To an extent TAA, Lovren (might miss gw1) and Mags if he moves.

            1. KompanyThePeople
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Where should slabhead move, if he does?

            2. Flynny
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Chelsea?

              Maybe luiz starts

              1. KompanyThePeople
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Hopefully he does, will know some more info after the shield

        6. SW6
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Oh I think I'm there, just tinkered my team into what is definitely my favourite draft yet. And there's 0.5 in the bank for emergencies 😎

          1. AndyCook
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Very very minor emergencies!

              1. SW6
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                True 😆

            • IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Let's see then?

              1. SW6
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Won't be to everyone's taste, but I've fit in all the players I like finally.

                Patricio
                Robertson - Van Dijk - Otamendi
                Salah - Sane - Jota - Maddison - Richarlison
                Aguero - Zaha

                4.0 - AWB - Peltier - Kamara

                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  Pedro over Maddy for me.

                  1. SW6
                    • 11 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    Nah gonna go with my gut and keep Maddy. If I drop anyone its Richarlison, possibly for Pedro or Arnie

                    1. Christina.
                      • 14 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      yeah, Zaha vs Arnie and Pedro vs Jota/Richarlison are tough calls.

                2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  Love the Otamendi pick 😉

                3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  How safe is Kamara ?

          2. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Is spending 5.5 on the likes of Gundogen worth it?
            I know he will only play half the games, maybe more due to his versatility.
            He could sit in the side and when he does not play, a decent bencher to take his place.

            1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Depends on the rest of your squad. Could be worth a punt but not for me.

              1. Eze Really?
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Cairney would be bench cover.

                1. Shatner's Bassoon
                  • 5 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  Also depends if you wanted to go triple City and he's taking up a spot that you could otherwise fill with a more attacking mid...

            2. Lazaretti
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Fernandinho might rest first few GW's so very likely taht Gundogan gets few games at the beginning of the season. KDB, Mahrez, Sterling also out. So small change that he gets advanced position though D.Silva most likely playing behind strikers.

          3. Stupendous
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Gtg for now???

            Bettinelli
            Otamendi Robertson PVA
            Salah(c) Sane Ramsay Richarlison
            Lacazette Arnautovic Zaha

            Fabianski Cedric Ward WanBissaka

            1. Shatner's Bassoon
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              possibly but keep an eye on Pep's comments RE Sane's fitness. I've put Eriksen there as placeholder for now.

              Also double Arsenal might be more advisable from GW3 onwards, but that's a tough thing to achieve with your setup as Ramsey is the best option at 7.5.

              1. Stupendous
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Thanks

          4. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Might just get Gro$$ after all.

            Can see him doing well gw 2 vs ManU(H)

            1. Fire Chief Moe
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Not a bad shout at all.

          5. Shatner's Bassoon
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Arnie is gonna be in basically everyone's team isn't he? Scoring like a maniac in pre-season + two very good home games in the first four.

            I'd even back him vs Liverpool / Arsenal.

            Unlucky not to score at Anfield last year (hit the bar + had another good effort saved), and then he actually did score at the Emirates.

            Bonus of being 7.0 & therefore able to become any of Wilson / King / Tosun / Zaha / Gayle / Perez if any of those lads show form.

            1. KompanyThePeople
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Can't decide between him and Tosun just because of Everton's nice fixture run

              1. Shatner's Bassoon
                • 5 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Going with Richarlison as the route to Everton attack. Think he can match or outscore Cenk.

            2. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Not for me - your view on fixtures can be spun the other way easily with some opposite cherry-picking.

              1. Shatner's Bassoon
                • 5 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                How am I cherry picking? Acknowledged 2 good games + 2 bad ones in first four, but he's shown he can do it in the toughies...

            3. Kiwivillan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Was my first pick. No brainer

          6. yakirh
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            RMT please

            3-5-2
            Foster
            Robbo Tomkins Cedric
            Salah Ozil Richarlison Pedro Jota
            Aguero Zaha

            Fabianski Arnie Ward Pereira
            0.0 ITB

            My main concern is how to get a premium 6.0/6.5 city defender for their nice run
            Maybe downgrade Jota, play Arnie and upgrade Cedric to Mendy?

            1. KompanyThePeople
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Would rather go for Otamendi as he seems most likely to be nailed

            2. Kiwivillan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Richarlison is mud

            3. DivocksHighSocks
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              My team is very similar to yours

              downgrade Jota/Rich/Pedro to Cairney and suddenly you're in business.

              1. yakirh
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 8 months ago

                Thanks mate
                Thinking Jota Cedric to Neves Mendy/Davies

            4. Athletic Nasherbo
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Ozil is a very intriguing punt! You’ll have to monitor Pedro...can’t seem him playing week in week out.

              Cedric may not start as he hadn’t returned to pre-season so possibly look at Hoedt for example.

              Play Arnie 100% and I’d keep Jota over Pedro imo unless otherwise

            5. ☆Khaz
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Downgrade either 5th mid or 3rd forward. Too much money on the bench.

          7. TheSteel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Would you rather
            A) Jota Arnie
            B) Mkhi Wood

            1. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              A

            2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              B

            3. yakirh
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              A

            4. Fire Chief Moe
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              A

            5. CostaCoffee
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              A for sure, Mkhi not nailed

          8. Lukakwho
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Good Morning all, please RMT.

            Ederson

            Bailly, Robertson, Davies

            Salah, Eriksen, Mkhi, Cairney

            Aguero, Arnie, Zaha

            (Boruc, Cedric, Tomkins, Stephens)

            1. Lukakwho
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Bailly to Luiz being monitored

            2. ShaunGoater123
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Not bad at all, although personally I think 2 x 7m up front makes it hard for you to get any of the big hitters if needed but that's just personal preference

          9. Athletic Nasherbo
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            How important are Good BPS players for you?

            I remember having Mane last year and he would score, get a clean sheet point and would always be matched by Firmino who would get an assist only then a bunch of bonus.

            1. Kiwivillan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Points win prizes

          10. CostaCoffee
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            The Reddit post on Emery rotating his full backs for those looking
            https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/91t619/unai_emerys_history_rotating_fullbacks/?st=JK8673Y1&sh=b41e422e