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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Which pair is better?

    A) Tomkins(or any better 4.5m) + B.Silva

    B) Bailly + Mata

    Thanks

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A. Only worry would be City rotation as you well know

  2. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Not an RMT! Need help deciding last 3 spots in my team. 18.5m to spend

    Ederson Button
    Robertson Bailly ***** Tomkins WB
    Salah Mane ***** ***** Ward
    Kun Arnie Zaha

    Cheers

    1. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Similiar situation with me, I'd consider Richarlison/B Silva and maybe Boly?

      could go Ederson +4.5 to Patricio and Mendy?

    2. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      hmmm

    3. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Please post this on the Semi-RMT article, thank you!

      1. noahzark22
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        this

  3. Jamie_GAWA
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Aguero, Lacazette, King

    nailed in my team I reckon.

    very niceeee

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Spot on.

      Lacazette essential imo

      1. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Can't believed he's being overlooked so much, Auba is a very good option also tho

    2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Starting on Aguero, Firmino, King and then moving Firm -> Laca if he starts the first two games 🙂

      1. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        why wouldnt Laca start?

        I obv can't guarantee but I can't see why he wouldnt

  4. AnfieldLad
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Don't get the Richarlison hype. Points with be spread between Siggy, Walcott, Tosun and it's not like Everton are gonna score 4+ goals every week..

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      True but at 6.5m he’s a good option

      1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        This

    2. noahzark22
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      but if Walcott, Tosun, or Richarlison score, it's likely that Siggy is involved. I'd start with Gylfi

  5. twisterteo
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Any love for Mata?

    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Just a mild flirtation at best, methinks...

  6. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    This season is going to be torture. More rotation than ever before.

    Nailed players will be worth every penny.

    1. chaser123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I disagree. We saw last year that the Man City players were highly rotated and were still the highest scorers...

      1. Bad Kompany
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Cost more this year

      2. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah but I always choose the ones when they get benched....

    2. ritzyd
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Playing bench essential this season i think

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Playing bench is always ideal. But if they are only contributing 1-2 points anyway, I don’t think it’s that important....

    3. The Legend Squad
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      KDB from the start?

  7. Tomerick
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Who's top of your avoid list that others might be contemplating?

    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Morata

    2. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mahrez.

    3. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      kane

      1. noahzark22
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        x2

    4. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      King

    5. jomikijiq
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Lacazette

    6. Naboo
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison

    7. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison and Pedro

  8. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Zaha or King?

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      king

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Why?

        1. The Legend Squad
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Great preseason easy fixtures

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      king decent preseason zaha doesn't even want to be there

  9. Lecky Legs FC
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    RP what's the score on David Silva is he on extended leave from the World Cup?

    1. Patch
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Snore he just needs to retire if he is busy

      1. Lecky Legs FC
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I'll be snoring all day when I'm retired,but seriously though nothing has been said about his situation think he might of got extended leave for his holidays from Pep he is in my team up to now.

  10. Bad Kompany
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Is Lindelof likely to play gw 1?

    1. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      see how he does tonight
      if darmian leaves he will prob play RB until valencia returns

      1. Bad Kompany
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers! When Valencia returns who do you he’ll start at cb if he plays pretty well

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          depends on who the bring in if toby/maguire/mina come then he will be sub

          1. Bad Kompany
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers! So if they bring someone in you think that bailly would be the other cb or do you think it will be smalling?

  11. CarelessGenius©
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Any love for Walcot?

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      no

  12. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Last 2 places to

    A Allison KDB or
    B Ederson Mané

    Rest of team

    ****
    Mendy Bailly Van Dijk Bertrand
    Salah **** Willian Richarlison
    Aguero King

    Hamer Neves Kamara Wan-Bissaka

    1. ritzyd
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B to start

    2. National Anthem
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Much prefer B, KDB likely to miss first 2 GWs and City will get CSs with those opening fixtures. Perhaps downgradr Bertrand so you can upgrade Mane to KDB come GW 3

    3. jimmy.floyd
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

  13. Lionac
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Assuming Jimenez plays as Wolves striker, is Jota really worth 1,5mil more than Costa?

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      yes

    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Wolves fan in here yesterday said Costa was a great option and has nailed down the RF slot. Don't be so sure that Jota is the best value

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yeh, he left me in doubt. I've since shed Jota for Costa and used the 1.5m elsewhere

        1. Lionac
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          That's what I'm about to do

  14. MrCloppity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    From todays proformance is Pedro a risk? I have Walker in my team at the minute is it worth downgrading to Mendy and using money to upgrade Pedro? Mendy is Nailed on to be the starter surely?

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He was a risk before the match. And he was garbage in the match. Make of that what you will. I personally drew a line through his name.

      1. MrCloppity
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah was holding onto his price tag more

    2. jomikijiq
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I have Mendy and Moura so yes

  15. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Lost on last page

    Which two of these three DFs are the best and most nailed on options for the first 6 GWs or so

    Aurier
    Mendy
    Robertson

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      bottom 2

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      bottom 2 ofc

    3. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      BC

    4. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Aurier least nailed and you probably should've known that already

  16. SADIO SANÉ
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Just how 'important' is having Aguero/Auba? I really liked A earlier but I'm thinking B now...

    A)
    Ryan (Button)
    Robertson Mendy Davies Luiz (Shaw)
    Salah Mane KDB Mahrez (Gunnarsson)
    Austin Mitro (Kamara)

    B)
    Ryan (Button)
    Robertson Mendy Davies Luiz Shaw
    Salah Mane OZIL BILVA (Gunnarsson)
    AGUERO (Kamara MADINE)

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      they're both trash imho

      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Lol. Harsh.

        Prefer B from those

        1. Random Name
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Gotta say it how it is unfortunately. Both teams combined only have one 7.0+ striker

          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            It's someone's opinion

            You could argue the reply was trash

          2. SADIO SANÉ
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            why does that matter? can midfielders not get points?

      2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Could have been constructive about it though, couldn't you? No point insulting a guy's team for the sake of it without offering advice on what you think would be better.

    2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Hello again mate, I think you've got ever so slightly too much invested in defence as it doesn't give you a massive amount of flexibility for different price points elsewhere. I like the midfield in A but the forward line is a tad weak.

      I'd certainly consider getting in AWB as he is a no risk 4.0 playing defender, and use those funds to improve elsewhere.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        probably yes, I'm not really bothered about flexibility - I'd be happy enough to play 541 until the best cheap midfielders show themselves

    3. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      What happens when Kun is rested?

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        transfer him out for Auba 😀

    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I don't like either to be honest

      I can see what you are trying by going heavy in defence and midfield but I'm not a fan

      Although it's not to say it won't work but I'd like another decent striker in there. At least one of calibre of a Austin or mitroivic

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        that's fine - most people won't because it's got more money in defence - it's loosely based on this:

        https://twitter.com/fplkernow/status/996156937334153216

        Salah is sucking the funds out of the midfield though so the front-two isn't as good as that example

  17. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Rate my team

    0.5 itb

    Patricio
    Robbo- Mendy - Shaw
    Salah-Mane-Bilva-Jota
    Aguero-Zaha-King

    Subs: hamer, tomkins, wb and 4.5

    1. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I'd tell you to head over to the RMT article, but you know full well where that is 🙂

      Just in case - https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/08/04/rmt-collection-zoumasbloomers

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Care to give any feedback of my team?

        1. Rotation's Alter Ego
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Happily. I'll wait to see it on the RMT article 🙂

          1. Bad Kompany
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            🙂

        2. jia you
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Wrong place for it!

  18. F4L
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    will King play up front with Wilson?

    1. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      as a second striker, probably.

  19. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Can we try to settle the 4.5m mid debate.

    Best option - one name only.

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Oriol Romeu

    2. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Gunnarsson

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Stephens as he does what a 4.5 should do on the tin

    4. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      That secret one that Azpi has picked

    5. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      habolahC

  20. Blanka
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Does Mendy have any competition for his spot?

    Is it just if formation changes may be left out?

    6m is expensive for any defender that's going to get rotated a fair bit.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Pep himself said Delph is the competition.

    2. Siggy in the Middle
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Delph is the competition

    3. Agger
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He'll play every game when fit

      1. Shineonme
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Nope

    4. Jealous Viper
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Fail to see how he gets rotated. Delph isn't even in the same class when you factor in all the things Mendy brings. Once he stays fit, nailed starter

  21. Ohh1454
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Which four ?
    A. Vvd mahrez Pedro kamara
    B. Clyne bilva biling morata

  22. +
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone still think Azpi might be worth 6.5? Or are Rudiger/Luiz nailed and enough of an attacking/BPS threat to save 0.5?

    1. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure. I’m struggling with this question too.

      1. +
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        If Luiz plays every game he's probably good value, but he has to be vulnerable to Christensen

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      City could have and should have scored lots more against that Chelsea defence today they can only hope it improves when Kante comes back otherwise the Chelsea defence will be a big No No

      1. +
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        They were hardly brilliant last year and still provided the two highest scoring defenders. Maybe a bit harsh to judge them on a friendly with the best team in the league

    3. National Anthem
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I'd monitor Emerson in case Alonso gets benched since he's awful on defense

      1. +
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        0.2% ownership!

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          That's cos I took him out!

          1. +
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            If his mum takes him out of her team it's 0.1%

  23. Jamie_GAWA
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Probably safer to start with B Silva as he should be nailed for 2/3 weeks, then downgrade as the bandwagon emerges.

    Could be better than trying to predict the bandwagon then being wrong and trying to upgrade to B Silva

    logical?

    1. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I think he is worth a try. Easy escape route to Arsenal mids

  24. Blablablabla
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Jota and king
    or
    Bilva and kamara

  25. jia you
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Regardless of fixtures, thinking of going without any Everton! What ye reckon, are they a bit overhyped on here?

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      They have decent fixtures, so Tosun, Siggy or Richarlison should be worth it on my opinion

      1. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        was sold on Richarlison but now B Silva looks good for the first few weeks its a lot closer for me.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      They were priced fine when the FPL season started as the consensus was they'd be top 7.

      But their pre-season has been a shambles putting off completely.

    3. jomikijiq
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      some of them have really good value. I'm considering Jagielka and Rich. Both best options at their price for me.

    4. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Wolves - Everton, tea time kickoff.Silvas First game. Wolves first game back. 3-2 either way my prediction.

    5. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers guys, get the fixtures and value potential. I had both Siggy and Coleman in my first draft and Richarlison in my latest one but really tempted to just avoid them until they show form.

  26. Riders of Yohan
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A) mane + richarlison
    B) b Silva + Keita

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A is superior in every single possible way.

      Ignore anyone that says B

  27. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    D. Luiz or Bailly?

    1. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Not Luiz; not after today.

    2. Spoox777
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Bailly

  28. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Morata is a complete wooden one

    How much did Chelsea pay for him?

    1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I chuckle at the times when every man and their dog ridiculed United for choosing Lukaku over Morata. Funny how that one worked out.

  29. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    No problem going for Wilson over King to save that 0.5 which gets me closer to Richarlison -> Bilva?

    1. Shineonme
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      King will play before wilson if there's a choice

  30. Jealous Viper
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Mendy Robbo AWB Cedric Tarkowski. Pick 3 to start gw1

    1. jomikijiq
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo, Mendy, Cedric

      1. jomikijiq
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        but I'd take Hoedt over Cedric

      2. Shineonme
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Cedric won't start