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13 December 2020 627 comments
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Man United 0-0 Man City

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None
  • Bonus points: Luke Shaw x3 (£4.8m), John Stones x2 (£4.8m), Kyle Walker x2 (£6.2m)

DULL DERBY

The occasion of a Manchester derby appeared to get underneath the skin of Ole Gunnar Solksjaer and Pep Guardiola’s men in Gameweek 12.

Bruno Fernandes (£10.9m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£11.8m) came into the encounter backed by 40.4% and 24.5% of Fantasy Premier League managers respectively but combined for a total of six points.

With neither side prepared to stretch themselves to get the win, Old Trafford played host to one of the dullest matches of the season so far.

That said, it was not the first time the Manchester derby has disappointed, considering that Gabriel Jesus (£9.3m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.4m), whose first touch was consistently poor on Saturday, both remain goalless against the Red Devils.

On the flip-side, Manchester United have still won just one of their six home league games this season, scoring three in the process, two of which have come from the penalty spot.

There could be hidden benefits from this result for Fantasy managers invested in the Manchester clubs though.

De Bruyne and Fernandes owners were unlikely to captain either of the premium midfielders for an unpredictable Manchester derby but more favourable midweek fixtures stood out enough to guard against mass sales.

That said, the quick turnaround between Manchester City’s Old Trafford visit and a Tuesday-night home meeting with West Bromwich Albion had caused some rotation concerns for De Bruyne.

Likewise, some managers had been put off captaining Fernandes for a plum away trip to Sheffield United for the same reason, although that game is on Thursday.

But considering that neither side exerted themselves too much at Old Trafford might convince both Solskjaer and Guardiola there is enough left in the tank to keep key players in the side in Gameweek 13.

ROLLING STONES

Manchester City are increasingly becoming a source of reliable clean sheets, picking up a fourth from their last six on Saturday.

The fact that it came against a Manchester United side that had a point to prove makes it somewhat more impressive, although the main focus will be on the Citizens’ upcoming fixtures.

With their defensive credentials improving week-on-week, City’s meetings with West Brom (home), Southampton (away) and Newcastle (home) are particularly attractive between now and Gameweek 15.

As ever, the question is: how do we best invest in their back-line, short of forking out for perennial six-pointer Ederson (£6.0m)?

Ruben Dias (£5.6m) remains the key man in terms of outfield defenders, having started each of the last nine Premier League matches, lasting 90 minutes in eight of them.

However, John Stones (£4.8m) is slowly emerging as a viable cheap alternative having started and played 90 minutes in each of the last three.

Crucially, he has been present for all of Manchester City’s clean sheets in the last five and added two bonus points on Saturday.

Whether or not he can retain his starting berth depends largely on Guardiola’s whim, of course. The games are coming thick and fast over the next few weeks although it is notable that Aymeric Laporte (£6.0m) has been benched for three Premier League matches in a row now and Nathan Aké (£5.4m) has not started since Gameweek 5 through injury.

As ever, the full-back situation remains unpredictable. Following a Gameweek 10 rest, João Cancelo (£5.5m) has now started each of the last two and captured clean sheet points too.

His versatility is a complicated piece of the puzzle as he played a right-back with Benjamin Mendy (£5.9m) on the left against Fulham but switched back to the left, pushing the Frenchman to the bench at Old Trafford, so that Kyle Walker (£6.2m) could return to the side.

DEVILS’ TRIANGLE

Paul Pogba (£7.7m) has now started and completed each of the last two league matches for Manchester United, potentially adding an extra complication to predicting the team.

Against Manchester City, he was deployed in a central midfield trio comprised of Fred (£5.3m) and Scott McTominay (£4.9m) but spent some time drifting into a left-wing role.

Meanwhile, Fernandes was officially stationed as a number 10 behind a front-two of Marcus Rashford (£9.4m) and Mason Greenwood (£7.1m), with Anthony Martial (£8.7m) making a second-half comeback from injury.

The Portuguese international spent some time advanced into the gaps between the strikers to become the centre-forward point of a 4-3-3 shape to press Manchester City as high up the pitch as possible.

That could be seen as one of the reasons why Guardiola’s men were unable to get things going from deep at Old Trafford. Fernandes is, after all, much better at pressing off the ball than he often gets credit for.

Whether such a role exists for Fernandes outside of the big games, remains to be seen, especially considering the shake-up of Martial’s 74th-minute introduction for Greenwood. At that point, Solskjaer reverted to a more familiar set-up with Fernandes at number 10, flanked by Rashford and Pogba while Martial led from the front.

Manchester United XI (4-3-1-2): de Gea; Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof, Wan-Bissaka; Pogba, Fred, McTominay; B Fernandes; Rashford, Greenwood (Martial 74′).

Manchester City XI (4-2-3-1): Ederson; Cancelo, Dias, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Rodri; Sterling, De Bruyne, Mahrez (Torres 66′); Jesus.

Lessons learned from FPL Gameweek 12

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  1. Ha.
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Kevin De Blank

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      erm, good one.

  2. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Sterling’s form has been woeful

    He needs dropped

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      This year or last year?

    2. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Oh yeah and add Aubameyang to this list. They used to be great picks - what the hell happened to them?!

  3. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Is Jota 100% out?

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      101%

    2. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Confirmed out for at least 2 months.

      1. n14mul
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Not confirmed yet, but reported to be.

    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Apparently for 2 months. Hopefully Klopp will confirm today.

  4. andres
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Best Jota replecement?

    McCarthy forster
    Chilwell James Coufal targett mitchell
    Kdb bruno salah soucek xxx
    Bamford DCL adams
    1. Ft, 2.2

    A mid up to 9.1
    B downgrade chilwell & son (-4)

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      B

    2. Big Hippo
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Grealish for me

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        +1

  5. Irish Villan 1985
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Lads, thoughts on a team like this???

    Martinez

    James, Gabriel, Justin

    Salah, Grealish, Bruno, KDB, Son

    DCL, Watkins

    Bench: Button, Brewster, Lewis, Kilman

    Contemplating moving to this but I wonder is it way to MF heavy?

    Thanks!!!

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      It works for the moment

  6. Big Hippo
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    What are we saying about Jota replacements? I’m looking at Bowen or Soucek I think. Prefer Bowen but the saving could come in handy at some point...

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I think Soucek and upgrade in defense

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Soucek

    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Soucek great value.

    4. Groot the Leveller
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Gross worth a punt?

      1. Groot the Leveller
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Been pondering all weekend and just went soucek just now.
        now, where to spend 1.8m?

    5. Lukakus Unit
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I’m going to be a bit of a wild card and go with Gross.

    6. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I went Raphina fancied a punt

  7. Old Gregg
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Werner owners. It’s time right?.

    I have Bam and Wilson.

    a) Ings
    b) Watkins

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Welbeck

      1. Old Gregg
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I wouldn’t be adverse to that .

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      A

    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ings

    4. Lukakus Unit
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ings

    5. Old Gregg
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks all

  8. ‘Tis the Season
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Percentages of starting?
    Mahrez
    Torres

  9. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    I'm looking for some transfer suggestions for GW13.

    A. Justin to James
    B. Bissouma to Soucek (benching headache between Soucek and Watkins)
    C. Save FT
    D. Other suggestions

    1FT 1.3itb
    Martinez
    Chilwell Cancelo Ayling
    Salah KDB Bruno Grealish
    DCL Bamford Watkins
    (Peacock Justin Taylor Bissouma)

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      C

  10. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Jurgen Klopp complaining about too many games in a ahort period of time started Salah and Jota in a game that really didn't matter in the context of things. My mind baffles ....

    1. jason_ni
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Don't listen to anything klopp says on player welfare, or subs.
      His actions consistently negate his whole argument.
      It really is a joke at this point.
      Playing players midweek in a dead rubber, salah for the full 90, then other weeks, not using the full subs allowed, but he still moans on about it.

      1. King Drogba11
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Couldn’t agree more. Runs his players into the ground.

    2. el polako
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Kopp is all nice and smiles when winning, but when things turn to worse he is as full of shite as the rest of them.

  11. Weak Become Heros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Werner to Wilson for me, allows Jota to Bruno.

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good

    2. Old Gregg
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Werner has to go right?.

      Looking at similar. Is that for a hit?.

      1. Weak Become Heros
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        He has to mate, after that shambles last week when I could have scored a hattrick in the positions he was in I said I’d give him this week against a broken Everton defence. He was invisible.

        Wolves up next, dont fancy much change from them so he is gone for a hit, yes. I think Wilson on the counter will do well against Leeds having out myself through the Newcastle game yesterday.

  12. jason_ni
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    38 with 2 left.
    Son and (K)ane

    Success of the gw lies on kane outscoring Mo by double or more, hattie please kane!
    Will likely be the reverse tho!

    1. Dannyb
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      45 with exact two left and same captain. Could be gold, could be a disaster.

  13. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    The Jota injury has forced me to make a U-turn on my transfer plans...

    Original plan was to slowly free up some cash (Chilly > R. James & DCL > Wilson) before bringing Son in for Jota.

    But, looking at a new plan now:
    GW13 - Jota > Souchek
    GW14- Chilly > James & DCL > Kane

    Will leave me with KDB, Bruno, Salah & Kane.

    Looking like a solid plan?

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good

  14. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    In the last few games, does anyone else think Chilwell is not as attacking as previous games? Based on the eye test and no stats to backup this claim

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      James looked much more threatening yesterday

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        James has easily been the better player out of the two in those last few games. More attacking and his delivery is on point. Chilwell doesn't seem to be making his attacking runs to the back post. Staying back when James is attacking

    2. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      He’s on the chopping block

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I agree. Easy swap to James to use funds elsewhere

    3. Il Capitano
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Will probably downgrade him on WC unless he starts returning again in the next 4 GW

    4. DALEDOBACK
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I have chilwell and would have no problem 'downgrading' to james when I have a spare transfer. James looked more of a threat going forward.

    5. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I have had Zouma & Chilwell, think one needs to go & Chilwell will probably be the on leaving?

    6. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Zouma the most attacking che def, close to scoring again yesterday

  15. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Do u think stones is nailed now?

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      No.

    2. Mambino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      No

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      No one is nailed apart from Ederson but Stones had another good game.

      To quote Pep you play well or score you play.

  16. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    For me GW10 - GW12 has always been about Vardy vs Fernandes.

    Fernandes = 19pts
    Vardy = 13pts + BHA

    A goal for Vardy today would probably justify going Vardy over Fernandes.

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      You probably now have to make two transfers to downgrade Vardy and bring Bruno in for GW13

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        That was always my plan though. I have two FTs and the move is fairly simple - Vardy and Jota to Fernandes and Wilson.

        No point rocking the boat over the next 5 GWs by going super differential.

  17. Il Capitano
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Upgrade defence or switch a premium out for KDB?

    3.3m ITB - 1FT - WC available

    McCarthy (Button)
    Chilwell Zouma Taylor (Justin Mitchell)
    Bruno (C) Salah Son Grealish (Bissouma)
    Bamford DCL Adams

    A) Son/Bruno/Salah > KDB (C)
    B) Mitchell > Dias/Trent/Robbo

  18. Rhodes your boat
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    In two minds about Werner, think he could explode at any minute but frustrating he’s stuck out on the wing. Not sure whether to transfer him out for dcl or ings

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I've honestly heard that same sentence (Werner is about to explode) for the last 10 weeks or so...

      And yet, here we are with a small handful of returns and Werner shunted out to the wing to make room for Giroud/Abraham

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I know just hard especially when he’s on pens. Wish either Abraham or Giroud were nailed. Would be decent options

  19. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Jota out long term?

    1. Tomm
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      12 weeks apparently!!

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2 months according to rumours

  20. Ray In Bruges.
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    Chilwell Zouma Justin (KWP Kilman)
    Fernandes KDB Son(C) Jota** Grealish
    Werner DCL (Brewster)

    2FT, 0.6ITB

    Well this GW turned out to be a bit of a shambles.

    Jota + Werner > Soucek + Ings ?

  21. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Salah - Bruno - Grealish - Jota*
    Kane - Vardy - DCL

    Does it make sense to go Jota -> JWP?

    Leaves me some room to upgrade Grealish to KDB (at the expense of Vardy -> Bamford) in the coming weeks, as his fixtures turn. Don't rate Bowen or Soucek at the moment. Cheers!

  22. AlternativeB
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Are there any City defenders who are "nailed" now?

    1. Jota, Robbo --> Dias, Grealish GW13 (GW14 - Vardy out Salah in somehow)

    or

    2. Jota, Robbo, Vardy --> Salah, Dias, Bamford GW13 (Kanee in somehow for GW 16)

    or

    3. No Salah.... Keep on doin my thing 🙂 (up to 42k now)

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Not a fan of the options where you are losing Robbo. I'm actually looking to bring in a Liverpool defender again. Looking solid in the last few games

  23. Rinseboy
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on
    Johnstone and Chilwell to Martinez and Dias?

    I have no idea what to do about Johnstone?

    Johnstone
    Chilwell James Lamptey Ayling Mitchell
    Son Grealish Salah Bruno KDB
    DCL Bamford Brewster
    0itb

    1. Vazza
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn’t make these transfers personally

    2. AlternativeB
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Planning Martinez out for GW16?

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Not for me

    4. Rinseboy
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      thanks Johnstone is killing me now and need a better keeper!

  24. Vazza
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    The most boring question of all time

    Who to lose first

    A. Ferguson
    B. Branthwaite

    I know it probably makes no difference but would like to apply some logic if possible.

  25. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Watching that Chelsea game yesterday...

    Reece James is an absolute beast in attack. His crosses are really dangerous - which when Chelsea have Abraham and Giroud upfront, is a potent weapon. He takes free kicks, he gets in the box himself and takes plenty of shots. In a nutshell he's a brilliant FPL option.

    Chilly > R. James is being done for sure for me. Though I'll wait a week until I need the cash from that sale.

    Any other Chilwell owners doing the same?

    1. Vazza
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I agree with your comments to some extent but the fact that he was reckless on some occasion cannot be overlooked.

      Would you not consider Dias as a viable option ?

      1. thegaffer82
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I have Cancelo so no, he's not in my thoughts (other than as a possible Cancelo replacement down the line)

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Not yet but I'll probably do it when I need the spare cash.

    3. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      considering it as well.
      might do it this week if dictated by price change(s)

    4. yosim
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Can't believe James didn't score last night 🙁

    5. Groot the Leveller
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Go for the double up?

  26. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Meslier
    Chilwell Konsa Dias Lamptey
    Fernandes Jota Mahrez KDB
    Kane Bamford DCL

    Forster Jota Stephens Douglas

    2FT, 1.3itb

    1. Jota Kane >> Salah Watkins
    2. Jota >> Grealish (roll 1FT)

    Thanks

  27. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Should I get Lamptey this gw?

    Or Bowen or Souchek?

    Need to get rid off Jota and Mitchell

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      As exciting as Lamptey is to watch, I'm not sure I'd be considering bringing him in (I own him, and I'd sell him if I had a FT).

      Coufal, Dallas - even Stones, all look much more appealing.

      I'd get Souchek for Jota anyway

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Look at Lampteys scores nothing special, I have him but he is a card magnet & not dependable for scoring.

    3. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Don't really get the love for Lamptey on here.
      He is pretty much average for his price range. Even the like of Lindelof, Targett and Ayling have scored more than him. Let alone Konsa, Balbuena etc.

  28. Hog Roast Junkie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    I need to free up funds for Jota to Bruno, which is the least bad option for doing it?
    A) Kane to Ings
    B) Kane to Watkins, would allow Grealish to Son next week
    C) Grealish to Soucek

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I'm bringing Kane (back) in after the Pool game, you're selling him 🙂

      I'd only consider A or B if you have Son already.

      C) doesn't appeal because Grealish is still a great pick imo, who also has two juicy DGW's in the bank and some great fixtures.

      1. Hog Roast Junkie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks, appreciate the reality check

  29. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Mahrez rather start or benched vs WBA?

  30. Rhodes your boat
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Werner chilwell Fernandes kdb- 10 points
    Soucek- 9 points
    Martinez - 11 points!

    This game ey!

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2020