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Two Premier League matches kick off simultaneously at 19:15 GMT this evening and bring Gameweek 12 to a close.

Arsenal are looking to end a three-game losing streak at the Emirates when they take on Burnley, while Leicester City’s own iffy home form will be put to the test against Brighton and Hove Albion.

The absence of Tariq Lamptey (£4.8m) from the Seagulls’ matchday squad is the headline team news, with Graham Potter saying the wing-back’s omission was precautionary in nature:

The exclusion of Lamptey is one of three changes that Graham Potter has made from Monday’s 2-1 defeat by Southampton, with Aaron Connolly (£5.3m) and Adam Webster (£4.4m) also dropping out.

Neal Maupay (£6.1m), Alireza Jahanbakhsh (£5.4m) and Dan Burn (£4.3m) are recalled for Albion.

As for Leicester, Brendan Rodgers has largely stuck with the same side that snatched a last-gasp win over Sheffield United last Sunday.

Wilfred Ndidi (£4.8m) is in for Nampalys Mendy (£4.5m) but the Foxes are otherwise unchanged.

In north London, Mikel Arteta has made just one alteration from their defeat to Spurs.

It’s an enforced one, too, with the injured Thomas Partey (£5.0m) replaced by Mohamed Elneny (£4.4m) in central midfield.

Sean Dyche has named the same starting XI that drew 1-1 against Everton last weekend.


Arsenal XI: Leno, Bellerin, Holding, Gabriel, Tierney, Willian, Xhaka, Elneny, Saka, Lacazette, Aubameyang.

Burnley XI: Pope, Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, Brownhill, McNeil, Brady, Wood, Rodriguez.

Leicester City XI: Schmeichel, Fofana, Evans, Fuchs, Albrighton, Tielemans, Ndidi, Justin, Pérez, Maddison, Vardy.

Brighton and Hove Albion XI: Ryan, Veltman, Dunk, Burn, Bissouma, White, March, Gross, Jahanbakhsh, Maupay, Welbeck.

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Lessons learned from FPL Gameweek 12

  1. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    To free up funds, what is the better move:

    1. Foden >> Soucek
    2. Robertson >> James (have Chilwell)

    Cheers

    1. thom830g
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2

    2. Bram
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2

    3. Pukki Party
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      1

    4. Benjustjamin
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      1

  2. jdp219
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    If I had sold DCL to fund Salah, like I briefly thought of, I would have had a front seven of:

    Bruno, KDB, Salah, Grealish, Soucek
    Bamford, Vardy

    Hindsight sucks.

  3. thom830g
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Jota to
    A) Maddison
    B) Zaha
    C) Greenwood
    D) JWP

    1. Bram
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      B

    2. Hiddenpaw
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      A

      1. Sloane426
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Lol Maddison. This place is a joke

  4. lugs
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    oh i have Maddison in my Sky team and i noticed last night i'm playing someone from this site who is slightly ahead of me in the FFS Sky league. in the Sky cup, it was 39-39 at the start of today now i'm up to 83 thanks to Madi and Salah(c), he probably has Vardy though with Salah(c) too so its squeaky bum time 🙂

    1. I Must Break You
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks for letting us know

  5. Parsnips
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    What transfer do I make here?0.1ITB

    Martinez
    Cancelo Robo Chilwell
    Jota Bruno KDB Salah
    Watkins Bam DCL

    Ryan Coufal Anguissa Mitchell

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Can you afford Jota to Greenwood?

      1. Parsnips
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Is Greenwood a certain starter?

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Should see a lot of game time now. It's an awkward price point, maybe Bowen if you want to play it safer.

  6. Agger
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Justin & Jamie Vardy (C) woooooooooooo

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Well done mate

  7. Villa Velour
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Not only did I take out Vardy this week, I did it for a hit... Thanks in advance for nice words.

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Why take him out vs Brighton? I don't understand

      1. Villa Velour
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I’ve had him for a couple weeks and he’s annoyed me. But mainly, to fund KdB move next week.

        1. Agger
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah he's definitely annoying to own but season keeper for me, will be up there as top point scorer!

  8. 2EyedTurk
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Is Mahrez/Foden midweek captain at all an option do you think??

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I'm worried that Mahrez might not start - or even get a complete rest.

      1. 2EyedTurk
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, I was deadset on Mahrez thinking he wouldn't start yesterday. Foden seriously tempting me, I must be mad!!

  9. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Since GW10:

    Son - 21 pts
    Kane - 23 pts
    Fernandes - 19 pts
    Vardy - 24 pts (+ second half and BAPS to be added)
    Salah - 27 pts
    KDB - 27 pts

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Can we get all of them?

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Get them all!

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Time to sell Bruno for Son?!?

      1. TOLV TUMS
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        With Sheffield up next? Madness.

    4. Blue Moon Rising
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Selling Vardy now seems crazy

    5. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Got Vardy Salah KDB ... probably just stick then

  10. chilli con kone
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Cancelo or Dias?

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Dias

    2. Agger
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Cancelo

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Dias could get his rest on Tuesday, but a better pick long term

      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        He’s first choice. Been a great signing for us. Laporte having to fight for his place.

  11. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Happy Vardy owner and Salah caper. 😀

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Same. But now I want that Justin CS.

    2. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Unite!

    3. CheesyZoot
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Me too, hoping Brighton ruin the Justin cleanie in the second half 😀

  12. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Imagine selling Vardy for the 12m Jorginho. I deserve this

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      My view of the PL:

      Top teams: Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs
      Good teams: Leicester, Everton, Southampton, Arsenal*, Wolves
      Bad teams: Newcastle, Villa, Palace, West Ham, Leeds
      Terrible teams: Fulham, WBA, Sheff Utd, Brighton, Burnley

      * Controversial, but can see them being in the top half of the table by the time GW19 is done.

      Focus on the bottom 5 teams for fixtures and you should do well.

      1. F_Ivanovic
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        calling west ham a bad team when they're 6th after having the hardest opening fixture list ever?

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Yes . His categories are bs.

        2. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Let's see at the end of the season. Confident that West Ham won't be in the top half come GW20 and GW38. Just like Villa won't either.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            What odds are you offering on West Ham ? If you are confident then you will lay them completely. I will confidently have a massive punt on this given the right price.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Man Utd under OGS are not a top team .
        How do you define a bad team
        This categorisation is pretty poor tbh.

        1. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          So a team that has consistently qualified for European football season after season and, if they win their game in hand, would be in the Top 4 in the PL is not a top team. Hmmmm. You need to rethink.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            The past is totally irrelevant in this context. Currently under OGS in my eyes they are not a top team. Under a different coach maybe .No rethink required. What about other teams "if they win games in hand ?".

  13. Here is Cash, give McGinn
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Horrible 2 GWs and took double hits in those. First ones of the season. I learned that never play this game with emotion.

    On friday before deadline last GW I felt that Zaha wouldnt do anything and it went all wrong from there..

    GW 11 transfers
    Martinez (0+11points) -> Mendy (2+3)
    Zaha (18+2) -> Mahrez (captain 8+3-4)

    Next day On satuday I transferred in rage two more while my captain Mahrez had failed and biggest rivals had KdB (C)...
    GW 12 transfers
    Vardy (11+) -> Bamford (5)
    Son (5) -> KdB (captain 6-4)

    not season defining mistakes but very close. In two seasons I havent played with emotion and first time I did it failed miserably. Lesson learned and onwards!

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Yikes...plenty of games in the next few days to recover from this

    2. diabydoesgallas
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Gotta F things up to learn sometimes. In a similar boat myself. One thing I’ve realised is that patience gets rewarded in this game

      1. Here is Cash, give McGinn
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        true that!

    3. Here is Cash, give McGinn
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      plus I would have capped Salah instead of Mahrez so there is that extra 14 points... buuh

  14. Djemba-Djemba
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    A little stuck here. Want to get grealish in but have Salah, son, Bruno, KDB and soucek in. Dropping soucek would mean I have to downgrade strikers and defenders to make it work. I do have Ollie Watkins so I am covered with AVL attack but it's not grealish. Thoughts? I'm on WC

    1. Djemba-Djemba
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Current Def: Justin, target, James, stones, bednarek

      Strikers: DCL, Watkins and Bamford

      Could do it by James to 4.6
      DCL to Bobby Reid

      Worth it?

      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        No Vardy?

  15. Right In The Stanchion
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Willian so old he can’t keep onside. Get him off

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      He's younger than Vardy

      1. Right In The Stanchion
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Vardy has the body of a greyhound though.

        1. Brehmeren
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          *face of a greyhound

  16. BeWater
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Still waiting for Pereira to come back and remove this 4.5M Justin character.

  17. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Do nothing to this and have 2 FT's to get in Kane GW14?

    Martinez,
    Chilwell, James, Coufal
    (K)DB, Salah, Grealish, Bruno
    Vardy, Watkins, Bamford

    0.4 ITB

  18. TOLV TUMS
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    If Southampton can put three past Sheffield, I think I fancy Bruno(C)

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Football is completely random these days. I wouldn't expect anything.

      1. TOLV TUMS
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        A very fair point. But still 🙂

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      For sure, very hard decision between him or KDB. You know Bruno should probably play 90, can't say the same for KDB.

    3. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah, think I'll hold off planned KDB move, would involve a -8 or losing another big hitter

    4. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I agree Sheff Utd look lost. Even a disjointed Utd can put 2 or 3 past them. They are just not what they were last season.

      1. TOLV TUMS
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        They really do just look lost. Truly wonder what's going on there.

    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Agree
      Sheff Utd players have given up
      Zero goal threat so as a captain you also have a very likely CS point
      Last game was 3-0
      KDB not crazy for him to be benched or come up early given they have 4th in the league Soton at the weekend (WBA screams a Foden game)
      Also ownership: Bruno 60% Vs KDB 33% - seems likely for Bruno to have 100% EO whereas KDB will easily be below 100%

  19. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Is Bowen worth extra 1.4m over Lookman/Soucek?

    That extra money allows for Grealish to Son upgrade later.

    1. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Nope.

    2. TOLV TUMS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      No

  20. Somar
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Official FPL would have tweeted something out by now if Vardy didn't touch the ball for the first goal. It must have deflected off him but so difficult to see. Anyone think it's going to be removed from him?

    1. Pukki Party
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Someone posted Opta has it as a Vardy assist

  21. Forever In Our Shadow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Vardy killing me. And Justin. You little bugger. Nothing for weeks. You go and now assist. Dear dear me.

  22. JBG
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    So... Keeping Mahrez and Vardy was waaaay better than bringing in Salah and Wilson, who would have thought with those fixtures.

  23. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on keeping FT and going Robo Stephens Vardy to Aurier KDB Davis the week after ?

  24. diabydoesgallas
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Jota to Soucek a no brainer?

    1. TOLV TUMS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Basically

  25. Tozier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Is Ziyech for Mane a good trade in draft?

    1. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      No brainer

      1. Tozier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I should have been clear - I would be losing Ziyech and getting Mane.

        1. Pukki Party
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Surely

  26. DMP
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Took a -4, in order to bring in Salah(C). Would captained KDB if not.

    Kane+Vardy+Bissouma to Bamford+Watkins+Salah(c)

    Result:
    Kane(9)+(3)KDB+Vardy= 12+Vardy
    Bamford(5)+ Watkins (2)+Salah (14)= 21 (-4) = 17 Points

    What a waste.

  27. BobbyDoesNotLook
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Serious question: how has Welbeck been?

    Scale:
    1) will lose his place
    2) will keep his place
    3) with that price I find him attractive

    1. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Shocked that this does not get any interest.

  28. Champions League Varane
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Lol.

    My mate was bottom and was about 60 points behind he said he’s ready to quit after this week (Leicester fan)

    Today..
    Vardy TC
    Maddison
    Bedrenak
    Justin

    Lol. He’s over the moon

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Just shows what can happen in a week with the odd differential thrown in there!

  29. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Thinking of doing Vardy + Jota > Son + Wilson for free this he giving me -

    Martinez
    Dias - KWP - Lamptey
    Salah - KDB - Bruno - Son - Grealish
    Wilson - Bamford

    Button - Taylor - Mitchell - Davis

    Leaves enough cash in the bank to upgrade Lamptey and KWP to James and Dier in the next couple of gws.

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Turn on the Leicester match, you might change your mind about Vardy....