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Millions of pounds worth of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) talent met at the King Power Stadium on Saturday – but how did the key Fantasy targets of Liverpool and Manchester City get on?

Our latest Scout Notes article rounds up the key FPL talking points plus the goals, assists and line-up information from the Community Shield.

FPL pre-season lessons:

LIVERPOOL 3-1 MANCHESTER CITY

  • Goals: Alexander-Arnold, Salah pen, Darwin | Alvarez
  • Assists: Salah, Darwin, Robertson

Match highlights

ERLING HAALAND

The sight of Erling Haaland (£11.5m) slamming a six-yard effort against the crossbar in second-half injury time was soon accompanied by the inevitable FPL mini-exodus.

Haaland’s ownership had dropped by 3% in the four hours after full-time, although that still leaves him in more than one in two Fantasy squads.

“He is strong. He missed it and another time he will put it in the net. It happened – it’s football. He had another goal disallowed because the ball was out of the line. He has this talent and he will do it. I am not concerned or worried about that.

“I would be happy if he scored and we win but we have a long season ahead of us. It is so intense. He is going to help us, I am pretty sure about that.” – Pep Guardiola on Erling Haaland’s late miss

Wasteful finishing and the blank aside, the signs were actually quietly encouraging – despite what you may have read elsewhere.

Haaland’s three shots were all high-percentage chances totaling 1.59 expected goals (xG), and this was against one of the Premier League’s best defences. He even found the net with one smartly taken finish, only for play to be stopped due to the ball being out of play.

Then there were the numerous unrewarded bending runs behind the last line – a la Jamie Vardy (£9.5m) – that demanded through-balls played to him, the type of ‘eye test’ observation that isn’t captured by the Opta data-bods.

As much as anything, it looked like City need to adapt to him rather than vice-versa; the usually dead-eyed Kevin De Bruyne (£12.0m), strangely, was guilty of not picking him out on a couple of occasions.

It may not come as soon as Gameweek 1 (match fitness seems to be an issue, for starters), so you can understand the temporary loss of faith, but a hatful of goals in 2022/23 looks inevitable.

“Love watching him live. It’s brilliant watching him. His movement is outstanding and it is only a matter of time, especially when City get that sharpness back, going forward. There’s goals to come. His movement is unbelievable.” – Roy Keane

DARWIN NUNEZ

The Liverpool starting line-up for the Community Shield was fairly easy to predict, with Roberto Firmino (£8.0m) starting through the middle as he so often does in matches of this magnitude, but Darwin Nunez‘s (£9.0m) chances of leading the line for Liverpool in Gameweek 1 now look a bit better.

His four-goal substitute appearance against RB Leipzig was followed by another match-turning cameo here, with the Uruguayan winning a late penalty that Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) converted before wrapping up the victory with a close-range header.

Darwin had more shots than any other Liverpool player on show despite playing just half an hour, with the Uruguayan thwarted in another one-on-one situation by Ederson (£5.5m).

Although they are different players, there are FPL parallels here with the Diogo Jota (£9.0m) of last season: a worry over minutes and rotation but underlying ‘per 90’ stats that threaten to be almost as good as Salah’s.

Klopp may still opt to ease Darwin into the fray even against a defence as suspect as Fulham’s, with his quotes below about “impact”, being “patient” and getting “better with time” placing doubt over a start, but he immediately looks more of a natural fit with Liverpool than his fellow man-bun modeler does at City.

“It was good, it was really good. It is clear it will get better with time. We live in a world where everybody gets judged on first sight and that’s not helpful for nobody, but it happens constantly. We were today – both teams – not at 100 per cent of their physical, usual situation, if you want. But in the first few games [of pre-season] we were not even close to the fitness level of today.

“When he came on, we passed each ball for him to chase it and after the third ball he was completely killed and then everybody judged his first touches and these kind of things. It’s just a joke, but we have to live with that, he will deal with it brilliantly, we are patient, and we know he can do good stuff. I liked his impact today; I liked the impact.” – Jurgen Klopp on Darwin Nunez

SALAH AND THE REST

Salah interestingly took Liverpool’s spot-kick despite James Milner (£4.5m) being on the pitch; it appears to have been Milner who had the final say in the past, suggesting the veteran is now increasingly happy to hand over penalty-taking duties to the Egyptian even when both are on the field of play.

The lively Salah ‘assisted the assister’ for both his penalty and Liverpool’s third goal, also setting up the equally impressive Trent Alexander-Arnold‘s (£7.5m) deflected deadlock-breaker.

Luis Diaz (£8.0m) was quieter, as he has been throughout pre-season, so it still may be a little premature to mention him in the same breath as Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) in discussions around the third Liverpool spot in our FPL sides, particularly when the cheaper Scot is so prominent in the opposition area – here the left-back not only assisted Darwin’s strike but also nodded a glorious chance of his own wide from close range.

As for City, Phil Foden (£8.0m) got his first minutes of pre-season as a second-half substitute after missing the tour of the US. Foden’s lack of action has meant that Riyad Mahrez (£8.0m) and Jack Grealish (£7.0m) have had a chance to lay down a marker for one of the Gameweek 1 wide roles but they both flunked their auditions at the King Power and were hooked before the hour mark, with replacements Foden and rookie Julian Alvarez (£6.5m) going on to be involved in the City equaliser.

Joao Cancelo (£7.0m) meanwhile was stationed at left-back, where the consensus seems to be that he appears less effective, although let’s not forget that the bulk of his 11 FPL assists last season came from that very position.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian, Alexander-Arnold (Milner 74′), Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson (Elliott 74′), Thiago (Keita 84′), Diaz (Carvalho 89′), Salah (Jones 90′), Firmino (Nunez 59′).

Manchester City XI (4-3-3): Ederson, Walker, Dias, Ake, Cancelo, Rodrigo, De Bruyne (Gundogan 73′), Bernardo, Mahrez (Foden 58′), Grealish (Alvarez 58′), Haaland

PRE-SEASON MINUTES TRACKER

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  1. Marty McFly
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Whilst I think Robbo is a better pick than Diaz is isolation, I’m not sure there’s as much value in 6.0 mids than 5.0 defs. For that reason, I think I’m starting to settle on this:

    Ederson
    TAA - Cancelo - James - Zinchenko
    Salah - Diaz - Martinelli - Neto
    Kane - Jesus
    (Ward - N Williams - Andreas - Archer)

    1. ArseneAllTheWay
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Gabriel/Trippier not good value?

      1. Marty McFly
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Yes, they are defenders. That’s what I’m saying, more value in those defenders than the mid alternatives.

        1. ArseneAllTheWay
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 3 days ago

          Yeah bar Martinelli, I agree with your point.

          I would consider Gabriel over Zinchenko though, Zinch played quite deep yesterday

          1. Marty McFly
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 3 days ago

            Yeh, you’re right. Gabriel probably carries more goal threat. That spot is by no means nailed. It might even become Digne/Trippier by Friday.

    2. FFFoxy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      I feel like you just answered my own question. I was thinking of Robbo over Diaz but it would leave me with Martinelli Bailey and rashford with no 8m slot. Diaz it is, plus is high ownership

      1. Marty McFly
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        I like the versatility of the 442 with the above structure. Feels easier to jump on early bandwagons than having more cash tied in defence.

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Vardy and Robbo outscores Kane and 5.0 IMO but I could be wrong for sure - solid team

      1. Marty McFly
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        I’m not keen on those early Leicester away fixtures and I imagine The 5 subs rule could impact Vardy heavily so he’s a “wait and see” for me. Plus, you’ve got the potential Maddison to Newcastle thing which would be a huge blow to Leicesters attacking threat.

        I like the Kane option because he’s an easy switch to Haaland (or any striker) with 1ft if required.

  2. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    I sense much wailing and gnashing of teeth when Diaz hauls GW1.

    I had him in my team for weeks but blah blah blah insert excuse here.

    1. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Feeling insecure about your Diaz pick are ya? Thanks for letting us know

      1. GENERATION X
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Wrong again TAA and Robbo.

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 3 days ago

      The pendulum has swung, at first he was Mane reborn and now he's a no good dosser

      I am so very glad he has kept quiet during pre season

    3. Kingy109
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      You may well be right, its just for me its Salah plus 2 from Firmino, Nunez, Jota and Diaz upfront - will it be your turn to wail when Diaz is benched the next match to give Jota some minutes?
      Whereas Robbo will play most games

  3. NobodyF*cksWithTheJesus
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    How's my latest draft looking?

    Mendy
    TAA Robbo Cancelo White/Tomi
    Salah Saka BrunoG Neto
    Haaland Jesus

    4.0 GK, Andreas, WIlliams, 4.5 fwd

    I feel about 75% locked in but unsure of a few positions especially the 8.0 midfield slot - any verdict on who's best option there?

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      I think Saka if your not going Martinelli too

  4. Ginkapo FPL
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Henderson would be good value if he didnt take up a Liverpool spot

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Not sure Keita was getting increased gametime towards the end of last season and now Elliot is back and Carvalho in the mix too

  5. Manumana
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Is Harvey Barnes a good option ? Thanks

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      He's an option

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Yeah

    3. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Certainly a good pick.

      And Maddison too.

      1. Manumana
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Cheers

    4. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Meh

    5. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      In my draft atm. Not the most exciting punt but a boring one with explosive potential.

  6. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Happy for now, Kane or Son to Haaland or KDB for GW2:

    Meslier
    TAA Perisic Zinchenko
    Salah Son Martinelli Bailey Neto
    Kane Jesus

    4m N.Williams Patterson 4.5m

  7. Claudio555
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Zinchenko or Trippier?

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Trips GW1 Zinc after maybe Trips again GW5

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        GW6*

    2. Better Call Paul
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Flip a coin

    3. The Sociologist
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Trippier for first two for sure

  8. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Who is the better 4.5m defender just for the first three GWs?

    A) White

    B) Dunk

    C) Henry

    D) Collins / Kilman

    E) Tarkowski

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Saliba

    2. 0james0
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      White looks like he could start, Dunk is always a good shout

    3. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      A or Dalot

    4. Greative
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Dalot

    5. thewakka
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Jansson

  9. 0james0
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Defender up to 5.5m. I'm mainly torn between these 3. A safe, a slight risk and a gamble.

    Zinchenko (could be a set and forget, especially if he ends up playing in midfield)

    Walker (very cheap and for some reason I feel he's going to start more often this season)

    Perisic (if he has match fitness, could end up being more of a winger)

    Thoughts or alternatives?

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Gabriel and Trippier the obvious options.

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      I've got Doherty

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Walker, after yesterday I reckon he has nailed his position

    4. Marty McFly
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      I would go for someone nailed.

      Zinchenko
      Gabriel
      Trippier
      Digne/Cash

  10. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Something different?

    Mendy,
    Trent, Robbo, Walker, Saliba
    Salah, Son, Bowen, Martinelli
    Jesus, BJ

    4, Bailey, Neco, Taylor

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Bowen is a good choice

    2. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Who's bj?

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Brennan Johnson

        1. g40steve
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 days ago

          Scoring for fun & going to light up the prem

        2. The Overthinker
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 days ago

          Ah so he's had a good pre too.

          Team looks good.

          1. g40steve
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 3 days ago

            Yep & on pens

  11. No_Mo_Salah?
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Morning all. First RMT of the year... two options:

    A.

    Sanchez (Steele)
    TAA Robbo Cancelo (Dalot) (Williams)
    Salah Mount Martinelli Neto Bailey
    Kane Jesus (Archer)

    B.

    Sanchez (Steele)
    TAA James Dalot (Dunk) (Williams)
    Salah Martinelli Neto Bailey (Andreas)
    Haaland Jesus Kane

    Thanks.

    1. Better Call Paul
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      A

      But not by a lot both great options tbh

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      A

      Pretty much template

      1. No_Mo_Salah?
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks.

    3. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Would go for A

  12. The Mighty Whites
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    What are people with Bailey doing in GW5 & 6?

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Wildcarding.

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Andreas gw5 and Williams gw6

    3. ㅤRising
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      WC or Neco/Pereira time

    4. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Can do reshuffle with 2 FTs

    5. LangerznMash
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      bench

    6. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Let’s see if Bailey gets that far in our teams first lol

  13. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Are White and Saliba nailed?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 3 days ago

      To start the season yes, arteta rarely changes a winning team so if they're in good form expect white to keep even tomiyasu out. If not so good form then Tomi comes back in and depending on how well saliba has done white either replaces him or falls to the bench

      1. Atimis
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Sounds good cheers

      2. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Yeah, basically this. When Tomiyasu is fit, White will compete with Saliba for the CB spot. Unless White keeps Tomiyasu out of the team. Hard to tell yet.

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      No, not nailed yet

    3. Fish up a tree
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      To start the season yes. I think Tomi will be eased back in with a few sub appearances & then start a Europa league game.

  14. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    West Ham being completely overlooked in the template.

    There's good options there. Including Soucek, Benrahma, even Lanzini and Bowen of course.

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Curse of the bad opening game

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Didn't they do well against Manchester City last season.

        Wasn't it 2 2 in London?

      2. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        In which last year Bowen tore them a new one ☝️

    2. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      You forgot fornals

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Bowen the one unplayable scores for fun & 200+ points

  15. Wenger 11
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Gk Meslier
    Def TAA Salina Botman Walker
    Mid Salah Son Rashford Martinelli
    Att Kane Jesus

    Any suggestions

    1. Z
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Yeap....Son into Haaland. You alrdy have Kane, whith Haalanf you can cover MC games and you will get 0.5 extra

  16. JUNITED
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    1)
    4.5 (4.0)
    TAA Robertson ‘’Cancelo’’ James Perisic
    Salah Mount ‘’Rashford’’ (Pereira 4.5)
    Jesus Vardy (4.5)

    OR

    2)
    4.5 (4.0)
    TAA Robertson James Perisic (4.0)
    Salah Mount ‘’Foden Martinelli’’ (Pereira)
    Jesus Vardy (4.5)

    1. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Awkward David Brent impression. Doesn't really get the fantasy football crowd. It's lampooning football clichés and applying it to FPL through the vehicle of bellendry. Doesn't work imo

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Your response made me laugh more than the video

        1. Deulofail
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 3 days ago

          Copied it to your clipboard yet?

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 3 days ago

            Too mature for that, grow up mate

  17. ㅤRising
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    So whats the best forward bench option? Archer, Greenwood?

    1. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Yup. I'm going with these two

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Taylor

      1. No Professionals
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Are you a forest fan?

        1. g40steve
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 days ago

          Yep

  18. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Recon that would be def overkill?

    Mendy
    TAA/Cancelo/Robo/Perisic/Zin
    Salah/Saka/Bailey
    Kane/Jesus

  19. GoonerByron
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Which one here..

    A - Robertson Mount (4.5 fwd on bench)

    B - James Nunez (4.5 mid on bench)

    1. Fish up a tree
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      A

  20. Oggle22
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    G2G
    Ederson
    TAA Cancelo James Dalot
    Salah Rashford Mount Neto
    Jesus Kane

    Ward Pereira Neco Archer

    Cheers

  21. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Ederson
    TAA - Robertson - Cancelo - Perisic
    Salah(c) - Sancho - Neto - Bailey
    Haaland - Jesus

    Gazzaniga - N.Williams - Andreas - Greenwood

    1. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Basically same as me, apart from KDB instead of Haaland

  22. BS03
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    hi guys appreciate some help with the 4 slots below:

    ___*
    trent - cancelo - robbo - ___* - ___*
    mo - neto - son - ___*
    jesus

    1) meslier, gabriel, trippier, mount
    2) ramsdale, james, perisic, martinelli

  23. Z
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Rank them
    A. Martinelli
    B. Rashford
    C. Neto
    D. Bailey

    1. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Honestly very tough, I like all of them, but probably..
      A/B
      C
      D

    2. CYN
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      ACBD

  24. Tsparkes10
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    A) James, Bailey, Diaz
    B) Robertson, Neto, ASM

  25. Visionaries
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    A
    Ramsdale
    Trent, Cancelo, Robbo, James
    Salah, KDB, Neto, Bailey
    Jesus, Martial

    B
    Ramsdale
    Trent, Cancelo, Cash, Dalot
    Salah, KDB, Mahrez, Sancho, Neto
    Jesus

    C
    Ram
    James, Trent, Cancelo, Robbo, Cash
    Salah, KDB, Rash, Neto
    Jesus

  26. The Mantis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    A) Doherty & Sterling
    B) Robbo & Mount

    1. CYN
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      B safer to start but I think Sterling will be a great option at some point

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      B

  27. Exeterslowly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Hi all,

    Salah and martial or diaz and Haarland. I just can’t make my mind up

    1. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Salah & Martial looks better imo

      1. Exeterslowly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks. It just means I have no Man City attackers as I have rashford instead of grealish.

    2. squ1rrel
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      I like Diaz and Haaland honestly

    3. CYN
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      S&M

    4. el polako
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      Thought Cristiano is staying at United, this may affect not only line up but most importantly team spirit and their starting point wasn't great already.

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Yeah, United treading water.

  28. CYN
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    How important is it to get Cancelo in? Obviously he was massive in FPL last season but I can't help but think Ederson, 6.0 def and Perisic looks better than 5.0 GK, Cancelo and 4.5 def.

    Could double City and a potentially explosive Perisic in the first option make up for the lack of Cancelo attacking returns?

    1. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      This is the kind of mentality that gameweek 3 might be good to use for. Cancelo will most likely start the next 2, will perisic?!

      1. CYN
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 days ago

        Its true, Perisic is definitely a risky choice. In the Cancelo option I like the 5.0 GKs but hard to decide on a 4.5 defender, so many options.

  29. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 days ago

    Best 6.5-7.0 midfielder? (Have Bailey, Martinelli)

    A Coutinho
    B Barnes
    C Rashford
    D Zaha
    E Grealish

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 3 days ago

      D, because of reasons I can't repeat but trust me

    2. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 days ago

      A short term
      C long term
      E medium term with risk