Moving Target
5 August 2016 1584 comments
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Having only brought in goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg and youngsters Bassala Sambou and Chris Ranshaw in the transfer window, Everton completed their first major signing of the summer earlier this week with the capture of Aston Villa midfielder Idrissa Gueye, after triggering the Senegal international’s £7.1 million buyout clause.

The 26-year-old agreed a four-year deal with the Merseysiders, and speaking about his first significant new addition since taking over at Goodison Park, Everton manager Ronald Koeman outlined what Toffees fans can expect from the former Lille midfielder:

“Idrissa will provide quality in our squad in the midfield and we want to increase the quality in the team. He was one of the players last season with the best record in interceptions and pressing in the midfield”.

The History

Gueye joined the Lille academy in 2008, having begun his footballing education at Diambars in his native Senegal. He spent the next three seasons playing for the ‘B’ side, before making his first-team debut during the 2010/11 campaign. The midfielder would go on to make 11 appearances as Lille won a league and cup double, featuring alongside the likes of Eden Hazard and Yohan Cabaye.

Cabaye’s departure to Newcastle allowed Gueye to establish himself in the midfield, and he subsequently made 25 appearances during the 2011/12 campaign, although he once again failed to register any attacking returns. The Senegal international would make a further 29 appearances the following season, only managing one assist, before establishing a key player for Les Dogues.

In the 2014/15 campaign, Gueye scored four goals from 32 league appearances, having only previously found the net once during his time in France, and also registered three assists. His performances attracted reported interest from the likes of Marseille and Premier League sides Southampton, West Ham and Crystal Palace, but it was Aston Villa who landed the midfielder last summer in a deal reportedly worth around £9 million.

The new boy earned just a single assist league outings, though his ball-winning displays in the centre of the park caught the eye in spite of Villa’s relegation to the Championship.

Gueye made his international debut in 2011, and has since racked up 33 appearances for Senegal, although he has yet to find the net for his country.

The Prospects

Whether in the 4-2-3-1 set-up Koeman mainly employed at Southampton, or the 3-5-2 trialled against Man United in midweek, it’s expected that Gueye will compete for a central midfield position along with James McCarthy and Gareth Barry.

Considering he ranked second only to N’Golo Kante last season for both successful tackles (108) and interceptions (141), the summer signing looks odds-on to establish himself as a regular starter as the new manager adds more energy in the centre of the park.

Gueye’s arrival on Merseyside should help provide some much needed protection in front of the back four, given the Toffees conceded 55 goals last season, with only the bottom five sides letting in more. The appointment of Koeman should also help in that regard, bearing in mind that Southampton held the joint-fifth best defensive record in the top flight last term, conceding just 41 goals.

So while Gueye’s Fantasy appeal is likely to be limited to games that reward defensive actions such as FanDuel and DraftKings, he should help bolster the appeal of their nailed on defenders such as Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman.

Both have seen their prices drop to 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) this season, and with Gueye’s presence in midfield likely to allow them more freedom to bomb forward down the flanks, we could see their attacking potential increase – certainly, Koeman’s decision to utilise the duo as wing-backs earlier this week has boosted their appeal.

Ramiro Funes Mori (5.0) is another to keep an eye on, though, given the Argentinian’s set-piece threat, having scored four goals in just 28 league matches last term, while he averaged a goal attempt every 97.1 minutes, better than the likes of Crystal Palace’s Scott Dann (114.8) and Leicester’s Wes Morgan (172.4).

In terms of the Everton midfield, Gueye – despite a favourable 5.0 price tag in FPL – is unlikely to merit our attention due to his little attacking threat.

Both Ross Barkley and Gerard Deulofeu have been impressive during pre-season thus far, with the latter having netted three times playing primarily as a “false nine” in the absence of Romelu Lukaku, after the Belgian was handed an extended break following his participation at the Euro 2016.

With speculation linking Lukaku with a return to Chelsea, Deulofeu may offer some out of position potential heading into Gameweek 1 should the Belgian depart, but that will likely be short lived, with Koeman certain to bring in attacking reinforcements before the transfer window closes.

Everton’s fixture list over the opening seven Gameweeks (TOT, wba, STO, sun, MID, bou, CPL) is particularly favourable though, facing just one of last season’s top eight, so Toffees players look good options as we look to finalise our initial 15-man squads.

So while Gueye himself offers little Fantasy appeal, his energy and ability to break up opposition attacks should be good news for the prospects of both the Everton defence and flair players such as Barkley and Deulofeu.

Further Reference

Idrissa Gueye Wikipedia

Idrissa Gueye Transfer Markt Page

Idrissa Gueye You Tube

  1. Salah Fingers
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    People still picking Ayew with the arrival Llorente? Surely sig would be the better option?

    1. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Heard he might be rested, watching out for pre-season games.

  2. SuperMario
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    First real RMT, feels like FPL is finally kicking off!!

    Foster / Heaton
    Azpill / Shaw / Stones / Souare / Pieters
    Hazard / Mahrez / Delefou / Redmond / Capoue
    Aguero / Rooney / Gray

    1. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      0.5 in the bank to jump on the early bandwagons

    2. Salah Fingers
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nice team

    3. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Like.

      1. AnotherBareBum
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        the Feghouli band wagon will save you some money though..

  3. Cradders
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How does this look?? £1m ITB

    Courtois, Jaku,
    VVD, Shaw, Morgan, Friend, Wilson,
    Nolito, Mahrez, Martial, Gradel, Ramirez,
    Aguero, Gray, Carroll.

    The £1m is to get Hazard for Nolito after GW1

    1. Kevtheotter
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't plan a transfer. Nolito shoes a brace...

      1. Cradders
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah but I suppose I then have the luxury of £1m in the bank and not needing to make a transfer or getting rid of Martial/Mahrez

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not keen on Molotov. Nobody knows who peps going to play in midfield.....

      Downgrade courtois to a 4.5M keeper such as foster or valdes and upgrade Joliot to hazard.

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry I didn't realise you had 1M ITB already lol. To early lol

      2. Cradders
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Struggling to write Nolito are we?? Hahaa must be autocorrect.

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Molotov haha!!! Bloody auto correct.

  4. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Who is your 4th Mid?
    Almost set my team, except that position

    1. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Bolasie

    2. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Liar.

      That position and another.

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        😎

    3. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Fischer

    4. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Noble.

      1. Clump
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I like that pick. I put him in at end of last season, did well for me.
        Woy should have taken him to France.

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Townsend

    6. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Townsend.

    7. Clump
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Bojan.

    8. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hmm all of them dont look great though

    9. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Ramirez

    10. KeepCalm
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Bolasie

  5. Kevtheotter
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Can someone explain the Lamela love that has been showing up here? 7m Mid looks tasty

    1. JoeShmoe
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He'll troll us again ...

  6. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Something tells me Rooney is going to troll the lot of us

    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      It's either him or Lukaku for me.

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He just might.

      Nailed on @9.0 in the No.10 and will prob play 90mins most games with the likes of Zlatan, Miki & Martial around him.

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      You missed the fun last night when Triggerlipps plagiarised your table 😉 . I have Lukaku instead 😎

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        What's this now? 😯

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          He wanted to ask you about using the preseason table . Someone on facebook pretended they made the table and he put it on his blog . He took it down and apologised .

    4. Dr Robotnik
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      In that he will score well and troll those who overlooked him?

    5. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      To be fair to Rooney, he does have a pretty good record when it comes to GW1. He still plays pretty ordinarily, but rarely blanks.

    6. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Rodney's no longer a fantasy option.....

      How he is being considered is beyond me, especially at 9M.

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Rodney lol.... My auto corrects on fire this morning!

  7. Mavric Marco
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Would you start the season with...

    A) Mahrez (hul, ARS, SWA, liv, BUR)
    or
    B) Payet (che,BOU, mci, WAT, wba)

    1. TATTOOED_2
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Mahrez for now p

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, thats what i'm thinking

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Lord payet ;).

      However, I'd be sceptical on whether he starts first game or not....

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Ha! 🙂

        So Mahrez then...

  8. Roy Rovers
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Something a bit different......a team with 4.5 rotating defs.

    Which defs would you change and who to?

    DDG. Jak.
    Friend. Pieters. Kone. Evans. Mee.
    Haz. Tadic. Siggy. Deulofeu. Capoue.
    Kun. Ibra. Gray.

    1. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Im not a fan of the 4.5 rotation personally

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I am but amongst 3 not 5.

    2. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Risky IMO. Defence too weak.
      - Downgrade Tadic to Townsend, and upgrade a defender to a 5.5 concrete defender.
      - Downgrade Tadic to Redmond and upgrade a defender to Azpi
      - Do either of the above and switch DDG and Jak -> Foster and Heaton, then get Shaw as cover, and spend rest of savings on a much stronger back line.

      Can quite easily get a stronger squad IMO, doing some of the above.

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Nothing wrong with DDG and Jak.

        His problem, cap wise, is having Kun and Ibra. Two players who take up basically 1/4 of his budget. I prefer DDG and Jak to Foster and Heaton.

        I guarantee you you'll bench Heaton the week he has a CS or pen save and exactly the same with Foster.

        Shaw's injury history really does not inspire confidence. He's pretty much the Andy Carroll of defenders.

        1. Roy Rovers
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Cheers for the comments Nomar.

          Kun or Ibra at home will get the C.

    3. Roy Rovers
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers guys...forgot to mention 1M ITB for Benteke when he moves on.

    4. Sanchit
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      4.5 x 5 looks completely sensible. But If I gow that way, I would have atleast 4/5 big hitters.

      Use 1million ITB to upgrde one of your 7.5's to Eriksen/Firmino. or change deulofeu to fischer.

      Or actually both.

      If you have Kn Ibra Hazard Firmino and Eriksen. the rest of the team doesn't matter much :p

  9. dhamphiir
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Should I keep them all or which midfield I transfer out?
    A. Eriksen
    B. Firmino
    C. Sigurdsson

    Other mid and Striker
    Hazard, Hojbjerg
    Aguero, Gray, Musa
    ITB = £1 m

  10. Tshelby
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you prefer as 4th mid?

    A Redmond
    B Ramirez
    C Townsend

    1. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      C

    3. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      C

    4. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      C

    5. JOSESBARMYARMY
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      C

  11. The 12th Man
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How's this looking?

    Foster,Jak
    Shaw,Coleman,Pieters,Friend,4.0
    Hazard,Mahrez,Gaston,Redmond,Capoue
    Aguero,Musa,Ibrahimovic

    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Are you any good at FPL?

      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Always learning from my mistakes.

        Not really. Improving.

        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I'm serious. I was actually referring to myself...barring 2 players that's identical to mine.

          1. The 12th Man
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Oh ok. Great minds.My best finish year before last 5k. Most seasons between 20k > 100k

            Think it's worth the Musa punt?

            Can always downgrade to The 6.5m striker that starts well.

    2. Oak_Invincibles
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      midfield is too weak. where's all the money gone?

      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        On forwards, Haz and Mahrez

  12. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    So KdB not likely to start GW1. I'm going for an early differential. Welcome on board, Sir David Silva.

  13. dicky2014
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Ayala, 25, has been sidelined with an ankle injury throughout pre-season and is yet to kick a ball this summer - despite returning to full training earlier this week.

    It was hoped that the influential Spaniard would feature against the La Liga outfit , as he looks to prove his fitness ahead of the new Premier League campaign.

    But Ayala - crowned PFA Fans' Championship Player of the Year for 2015/16 - will sit out of the final friendly, and is a major doubt to face the Potters on August 13.

  14. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    So, how come Rooney appears in more rmts than Ibra ? What did I miss?

    1. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      the 2.5

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Bandwagons 101 : how crazy bandwagons rise and fall on FFS

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Haha

    3. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      people didn't want him as a defensive midfielder scoring 8 and assisting 7 last season but now they have all seen him in the cam or 10 or behind the schlong of Zlatan he is making teams

  15. The Pros and Cons of Picking a 4m Non Starter
    J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Is it worth playing with just 14 players?

    This is an idea that I know Triggerlips has been looking at recently that is ideal for those who plan/reluctantly expect to wildcard early. It is that we may be better off getting in a 4m defender who is unlikely to play in order to stretch our cash even further to get a better 14 man squad. The rationale is that you are unlikely to play your third defender much anyway.

    I've tinkered with it and have managed to get two 5.5 defenders by swapping out Bou's Francis for his highly unlikely to play team mate 4m Smith. My team immediately looks better and looking at the fixtures I'd be unlikely to play Francis much anyway early on.

    I'm not even planning to wildcard early and already this tactic looks sound for me.

    What do you think? Is it worth having just 14 sure starters to improve your squad?

    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      *13

      That 5th midf will be bench fodder most likely as well.

      Yes, btw.

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think its a valid tactic to start with, and one that I use every season - for the first few gameweeks at least.

      The trouble is at the moment i've got 2x 4m defenders but hopefully a regular stater at this price will emerge early on and I can swap them in.

      1. Benalis Tache
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        2x 4m? There is a difference between what you hope and what is likely.

        Some 4m defenders often start, but it normally depends on injuries to preferred defenders so you'll end up using all your transfers to keep a playing 4m defender in.

        1 is fine, but 2? Too wild for me!

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yep - I've gone Wilson as 4th defender. There is so much speculation at the start of the season that some of these 4.0's may even start anyway. I like the idea of the extra 0.5 gained going in the bank to cover rises in certain areas. I've gone VVD, Terry, Shaw, Fernandez which to me seem nailed enough.

      Plus if you are looking at early WC like many are you will have less weeks to worry about a 4.0 dropping in price quickly.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Fernandez maybe not as nailed as one would think - didn't start yesterday and was dropped a bit last season

    4. Krul Runnings
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I will be going with a 4m def so yep I agree

    5. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'm going with this plan.
      Always use Wild Card early anyway so no point in having wasted funds on the bench short term.

      I will probably go for a low owned 4.0m to avoid any price drops. So Paredes,Smith are probably no goes.

      1. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Aren't there safety in numbers? If a player is owned by 5 managers, it's easier for a price drop?

        1. The 12th Man
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          You have a point but with the early wild cards being banded about a lot of players that are highly owned and not playing will surely be at risk from a price drop.

          1. Blame the Ref
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            But Wildcard transfers don't count towards price drops anymore.

    6. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Before a ball has been kicked, I think it's difficult to be sure who is nailed and who isn't, especially in teams with a raft of new players or with a new manager. Intentionally hamstringing yourself by definitely having at least one non-playing defender limits your options if injuries or rotation do hit. It's not for me. Could be a legitimate tactic during the middle part of the season, if you think the rewards outweigh the risk.

      1. Clump
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        ^ Pretty much this. The bargains will quickly become apparent.

      2. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Absolutely this. How often is an early WC a by product of rotation and injuries.

    7. Clump
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      You kindly pointed to me out that price drops are an issue when I was enquiring about Parades.
      If they don't play, it's an team value issue early doors.
      The dullard within will ensure you have 15 starters come GW1 🙂

    8. Alonso's Ball
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      My plan all along. I had 15 last year and bench points made my life worse

    9. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A 4M will probably become a regular starter - I don't remember a season where one hasn't. So I think we just have to be prepared to use a transfer on this when it comes around. Preferably during WC week as a transfer used on my 3rd sub is not something I like to do.

    10. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Currently have two 4.0 defenders and a 4.5 mid. Rationale is that I always wild card early to jump on bandwagons and want to get the best possible team on the pitch for GW1.

    11. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If you don't WC early somewhere along the line you'll wish your 4m non starter wasn't in your team and you had another option.

      To me I prefer to have a defence with 5 lots of fixtures to choose from instead of 4. It helps when there is an injury/suspension as well.

    12. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      The problem with this is if your 4.0 defender goes down in price., then that 0.1 drop is effectively a 0.5 drop. Not a problem if you really are planning to WC early doors, but I personally don't like planning such things.

      1. Clump
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        My thinking too. A 3.9 player needs a hit to get shut of.

      2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Is it though. If you plan to keep that non playing 5th 4m for the season and not sell him it's not that big a deal if he plummets a bit in price.

        1. Spencer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ah, never thought of it like that. Interesting...

        2. Clump
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Throw in rotation/injuries/suspension.
          The best laid plans of mice and men......

        3. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Becomes an issue if you WC him out though

          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            But he is a season keeper.
            Ie 100m / 15 is less then 96 / 14.
            And this is where the AOA comes in to play as a save 1 week.

            1. Blame the Ref
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Good point, AOA chip is v useful in this regard if you have 1 or more 4m defenders

            2. sindriseagal
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              I think you also have to look at is that like Targett last year went down to 3.7, if you never sell him you are maybe not loosing but others can wildcard him in at 3.7 and therefor gain 0.3 to spend on others.

              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                And then have a guy that might or migh get to play as he will be in and out of the team. He might go down again and suddenly you a transfer to waste once more.
                That is now 2 transfers on a defender spot. One to get Targett in and 1 to take him out. Possibly of course.

                But yes sure that is a point to consider, though the idea is to focus more money on 14 instead of less on 15.

                Then anothe way to view on what you said, is that not the case with a lot of players, can't have them all.

          2. Shifty
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            There will likely be a 4.5 playing defender that drops 0.1 as well by the time you WC.

            Or a midfielder that dropped 0.1 somewhere.

            It's just how the market works. Don't see it as a 0.1 you'll never get back...I just see it as a placeholder, prices will move - how many times have you maxed out your budget throughout the season anyway?

        4. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          What about BB?

          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Yep if you want 15 players then you are screwed. But look at how many ppl on here went with that last season and pretty much lessened there team. Quality over quantity.
            (Sorry about bad spelling)

            1. Clump
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              I scored about 150 the week I used bb.
              Balders system worked a treat!

              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Well. Many had issues the week before you bb, ie the week you wc because they so wanted 15 bb players they spread their budget and picked lesser players.
                Then you are stuck with them the weeks after.
                BB is one week, there are 37 more.

                It's a different tactic we are discussing.
                I'm not on it, may be but it's too early yet.
                It certainly has its merits though.

                I've seen the post you made below that you called a rant.
                It has points for sure, but it's one side of the coin.
                If you have 15 players you have less money per player.
                You have one more player that could get price drops.
                You have one more player that c7uld get injured or ousted.
                You have one more possition to handle with transfers.
                Etc etc.

                1. Clump
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  I see your points Captain. GL with your strategy.

      3. The Real Big Vern
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        just make sure you get a 4m player with low ownership

    13. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Could be, many do it already.

      But it is the AOA chip that makes it an even more interesting prospect. As a 'save' from making a transfer that inevitable week later in the season when injurys and suspension threatens to cost you a transfer due to having that non playing 5th 4m defender.

    14. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I like having 1 big hitter and then 2x rotating 2s for the remaining spots.

      Concerns are that people are selecting players that are doubts as part of the 4. Lets say your defence is

      Shaw Baines Friend Pieters and 4.0

      Some of the following could very welll happen and mess you up

      - Stoke buy a new LB
      - Shaw could get injured
      - Baines sending off

      Youre then struggling to get 3 defenders out and risk taking a -4 if you want to jump on any early bandwagons.

      Sure the 0.5 can be used to make Routledge Snodgrass but its not worth the risk.

    15. Toast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I play this tactic as well...but you can't have any punts in defence or it will quickly turn sour. Who are the options?

      B Smith - unlikely to start over Daniels?
      Paredes
      Lenihan

    16. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      13 max for me. 2nd keeper and 5th DEF will be bench fodder, leaving me with a 4.5 DEF & 4.5 MID just in case.
      After all, how many times do you have to rely on your 3rd Sub? Once or twice a season maybe, which doesn't make it worthy of any investment

    17. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      if your 4.0 doesn't play how long before he drops in price? that's my only worry. I have 3 4.5 def I can rotate to who ever has the better chance of cs

    18. Clump
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      While I'm on my soapbox.
      Put this in to context. We are talking about spending 0.5 to achieve the following:

      1) Preventling possible loss in team value.
      2) Avoiding potential early WC
      3) A greater selection to play the fixtures.
      4) Insurance against injury/suspension/rotation.
      5) Guarding against wasting a FT.

      That 0.5 buys you quite a bit. Rant over 🙂

    19. TOADFISH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      This.

      The only way to enable two 5.5 defenders, a solid midfield and the two big boys up top IMO.

    20. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Some good points and in terms of having a 4.0m defender that never plays in your team: a resounding "yes" from me.

      Will never play esp at this stage of the season and as most will WC in the first few weeks, other 4.0s may emerge that actually are seeing some gametime.

      As a major enabler when every 0.5 counts more than ever, a 4.0 is a worthy if not essential strategy.

    21. invertebrate
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I won't be doing it but if you are I think it's probably better to pick a 4.0 player with as close to 0% ownership as possible. If no-one else owns him no-one can sell him so he won't drop in price.

    22. Kroosin'
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Why pick a 4.0 with almost 5% ownership ? There are ones with 0.2% ownership. Their prices are unlikely to deviate from the initial value.

      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        It doesn't work like that. It's a % drop of initial ownership so you need the same percentage for a price drop for 5% owned players as you do for 0.2%.

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Well, yes and no.

          The danger is to have a FFS template pick. FFS managers are fickle and active. They will pile into a 'good thing' and pile out again to get the next 'good thing'.

          Consequently a 4.0 player that is never mentioned on here is less likely to fall in price than one that is favoured on FFS. Inertia and all that.

    23. Ruth_NZ
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      0.5 is such a big deal?

      Won't work for me anyhow. I will be playing BB within the first 3 weeks before I wildcard (probably GW1 but maybe GW3). 🙂

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        😯

        Why this instead of a DGW??

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Because the DGW BB is a strategic error.

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            why?

    24. Fergietime
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I have a 4 million keeper, does that count?

    25. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Currently got Friend as 5th defender at 4.5m and Fletcher as fifth mid. Still got 2.5m ITB and not tinkered for a week! I see no need for risky 4.0m players with the pricing as it is.

    26. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Is Smith of Bournemouth the most likely starter though?

      I would probably go for Kingsley of Swansea if I was to adopt this plan.

    27. the divine ponytail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      This has been my starting tactics for the last few years. It has allowed me to have that extra. 0.5 million in the bank to get a player who emerges as an early season value / must have pick.

    28. Hughes the Daddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I personally don't think it's worth it. I think the benefit of having another playable option in defence outweighs the £0.5m. Particularly as we don't yet know which defences will show themselves to be strongest this year.

      Also, I think it's worth being wary of over-striving for the most expensive team, better to focus on getting the right players rather than being too blinkered on using max budget.

    29. Dokdok666
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I say a Hull fan claim that due to injuries, Lenihan(4m) will be starting atleast the first couple of games.
      Bonus; his ownership is at 1.9%, meaning he is less likely to drop in price than for example Paredes is.

    30. FantasyTote
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Having a 4m defender or a 4.5m midfielder to straighten your team is a viable option, it certainly gives you more flexibility to strengthen the rest of the team. Probably in the forward line as that's where the pricey guys are.

      However it is still possible to have these as starters. Best to go for the low guys such as the promoted teams and pick up some from them who if nothing else will give you the 2 points for playing if you get hit with alot of injuries in the one week.

    31. AndrewTavey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Surely Brad Smith is going to play considering Bournemouth shelled out £6m on him. That's a lot for bournemouth on a player who won't play. He's been playing in pre season.

    32. #23
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If you play 3 games with 0.5m more on the pitch, mathemaically it's worth approx 1.12 point (1m=0.75p/game). Not worth it in my book for that reason alone, but more flexibility to get the right players early is the biggest benefit.

    33. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Isn't this the wrong question. Should say 'do you start with 13 starters'.

      Early on need to maximise value in the starting 11. Can have a non-starting MID and DEF . Leaves a 4.5 DEF to start in emergencies.

    34. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I've always done this ^

      I thought everyone did 😯 !!!

      1. Unimaginative
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        4.5 gk
        5.5 - 5 - 4.5
        Eden - Sanchez - Bolasie - Redmond
        Kun - Ibra - Gray

        Sub's 4 - 4 - 4 - 4.5

        Is this ridiculous if I'm planning on wilding by GW4??

  16. aehii
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Foster/Jukopovic
    Kos shaw friend van dijk
    Hazard fermino mahrez eriksen
    Musa aguero

    Capoue amat

    How's that look ?

  17. Mavric Marco
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RP

    So, will Llorente come in at 6.5 do we think and add to the many options we already have at that price?

    Could look at Llorente & Gradel over Wilson & Fischer...?

  18. Chaps Before Baps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Morning Lads, I see a lot of people are picking Gray over Long. What have I missed?

    1. Adderz
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      8 pre-season goals in 5 games i think?

    2. A-S-H
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Long will get around 10 goals max. Gray potentially could be an Austin and get 15-20

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        so Gray only better for long term?

    3. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gray is more nailed, whereas Long and Austin could rotate.
      Also Gray has done well in pre-season.

    4. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gray nailed in.

      Long v Austin.

    5. Chaps Before Baps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Good feedback, thanks lads i'll swap him out.

  19. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    If anyone sees Triggerlips around let him know he can go ahead and use the table on his blog, I don't mind at all

    Heading out for the day so might not see him beforehand

  20. Cal1umz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A - Tadic + Azpi

    B - Erikson + Stones/Williams

  21. 1-1 at Newcastle
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Any love for downing on here?

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      loads of better options @ 5.5

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nooooooooo.

  22. mosiki
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Team of 11 - worth it?

    Butland
    Shaw - Fuchs - Funes Mori - Darmian
    Sanchez - Hazard - Mahrez - Firmino - Eriksen
    Batshuayi or Lukaku or Giroud

    Bench 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.0 - 4.0

    1. Alonso's Ball
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No

  23. CivicTypeR
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please

    Valdes Jak
    Bellerin Walker Shaw Friend Paredes
    Hazard Payet Albrighton Dier Hojberg
    Aguero Kane Gray

    OR

    Valdes Jak
    Bellerin Walker Shaw Friend Paredes
    Hazard Mahrez Kante Dier Hojberg
    Aguero Zlatan Gray

    1. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Kane hasn't featured in any pre season I think but correct me if I'm wrong. he might be getting a rest for the start same as Payet. but I'm just another bare bum in the shower

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        You're right, Kane hasn't featured.

        Although he is sure to get some minutes this afternoon against Inter.

        He will not be rested in Spurs' opening fixture against Everton that's for sure.

    2. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Don't like Paredes, don't like Albrighton.

      other than that, both teams are deece

    3. Kevtheotter
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Kante and Dier are not going to be getting you any points mate

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        So they don't get 2 points for playing 60 muns anymore, then.

        I never knew that.

        1. Kevtheotter
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          C'mon mate

          1. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            C'mon what?

            They won't set FPL on fire but they'll pick up points along the way.

    4. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      don't pick dyer there are many many better options but you will need to do some research to find them

    5. CivicTypeR
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      paredes is only 4m def option and most likely perm benched.
      my thoughts on albrighton is that he will be my leics mf coverage instead of mahrez so i can fit payet.

      any other options on dier or kante as they are guaranteed starters in there teams. any gems coming up from the championship in the 4.5/5.5 bracket?

  24. Ten Season Wonder
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Morning chaps,

    Am i correct in thinking that the RB slot for M'Boro' is between Nsue & Barragan..

    Nsue looked tasty last season but not sure if the new guy will take his place?

  25. AnotherBareBum
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Draft #5897. .5 in bank
    mandanda
    Shaw,Baines,Aina
    Hazard,Deufoleu,Cabaye,(Silva or Nolito)
    Aguero.Rooney,Gray
    Foster,Mee,Friend,Feghouli

  26. FAITHNOMORENO
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    the more I see people overlooking kane,the more I like him as a prospect and differential.

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'm anticipating another slow start from him.

      1. FAITHNOMORENO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        we'll see.
        I more inclined to spend big on golden boot winner rather than on unproven fpl players.

      2. FAITHNOMORENO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        😉

    2. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      he hasn't played any preseason I just think he will be resting for some reason. long term he will make my team after ive made enough to get him

      1. FAITHNOMORENO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        "The clash with Inter will see returns for nine of Tottenham's 10 Euro 2016 representatives in the shape of captain Hugo Lloris, Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose, Ben Davies, Kyle Walker, Eric Dier, Dele Alli, Mousa Dembele and Harry Kane."

        http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/visa-error-rules-tottenham-midfielder-victor-wanyama-out-inter-milan-friendly-oslo-1574389

        1. AnotherBareBum
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          sweet, well lets hope kane breaks a leg so I don't have to fit him in my team

          1. FAITHNOMORENO
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            kane scores 😉

  27. Kevtheotter
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Aina...WTF is he?

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Human. Chelsea defender.

      1. Kevtheotter
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Youth?

        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Hes 19 but if hes good enough hes old enough

      2. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        just read he is RB. Same as Ivanovic....

    2. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Was about to post the same thing.. Are people are convinced enough he'll start to put him in their team? When you can get Terry for 0.5 more?

      1. Kevtheotter
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        THHHHHHISSS

    3. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I have him in just in case e does for now with my other defender I'm happy with to come on for him if he does not. but preseason he looks good and just signed a 4 yr contract conte likes him ivanovich was uncertain starter cause injury and missed a lot of preseason so he is a chance to start

  28. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is the goalkeeper rotation tactic dead in the water?

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hell no.
      Heaton and Foster FTW.

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Heaton and Foster is one of the more popular GKer combinations on here. So no

      1. AnotherBareBum
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        mandana foster for the 1st 5 weeks but I'm not trying to save .5 by putting someone in I cant rotate with. its ok if you get a 5.5 keeper and a . 4 cause certain starts and more likely to get clean sheets, 2 x4.5s way to go for me but I'm just another bare bum in the shower.

  29. Aasim105
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Drinkwater-Lukaku-Dier
    OR
    Towwnsend-Nugent-Eriksen

    1. AnotherBareBum
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      never dier

  30. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'm so tempted by VVD. Those home fixtures smell goals and baps.

    1. A-S-H
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      So am I, just can't seem to fit him in my team 🙁

      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Ditto. Annoying.

    2. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Ditto.

    3. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      first name on my team list.