Pre-Season
5 August 2018 2457 comments
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Chelsea and Manchester City meet in the FA Community Shield today and there is plenty for Fantasy Premier League managers to be keeping their eye on.

In fact, Fantasy enthusiasts couldn’t have hand-picked two better teams to look at in a competitive setting before the Gameweek 1 deadline.

With plenty still up in the air for both clubs, this is a perfect opportunity for some Fantasy research ahead of the 2018/19 season.

WINGING IT

There will be a lot of interest in midfielders Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) today, as managers await a potentially cost-saving route into the Chelsea attack.

The pair have started all of Chelsea’s pre-season matches so far on the flanks of the front three, either side of Alvaro Morata (£9.0m) and, by all accounts, have impressed hugely.

Pedro has two goals to his name in three matches while Hudson-Odoi (one assist) has been deemed the best performer of Chelsea’s pre-season so far.

The absences of Eden Hazard (£10.5m) and Willian (£7.5m), and their potential departures before the transfer window closes, leaves a huge opportunity in this area of the team for Pedro and Hudson-Odoi. If they can take it, then Fantasy managers will be very pleased with the money they could save on these two exciting options.

But there is even more to pay attention to in the wide areas for today’s match. FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) has now been used as a second-half substitute on the right of the forward line twice in pre-season, creating serious potential for him to be a powerful out-of-position option.

The only reason he has not started a match yet is because of his extended World Cup leave, so it is entirely possible that he could feature from the beginning in an attacking position at Wembley today. If that happens, he could quickly become the most popular Chelsea defender in FPL…

GOALONSO?

…But the most fashionable Chelsea stoppers right now are Marcos Alonso (£6.5m) and Cesar Azpilicueta (£6.5m). Over 16 percent of managers have backed one of these as they prepare to line-up as the full-backs at Stamford Bridge this season.

The scrapping of the 3-4-3 wing-back system by new manager Maurizio Sarri has the potential to change the output of both of these premium players which is why it will be good to see them in action as more traditional full-backs in a 4-3-3.

Crucially, we need to see whether or not either of them have as much license to get forward, as they have done in previous seasons.

If the pair are afforded that against Man City today then we know that £6.5m is a price worth paying; if not, then it might make sense to look elsewhere.

The cheaper David Luiz (£5.5m) looks like he’ll be a regular at centre-back at the beginning of the season and, as we’ve already alluded to, Moses could even offer more advanced positions than Alonso and Azpilicueta for £0.5m less.

THE MAHREZ SHOW

Pep Guardiola revealed in his pre-match press conference on Friday that Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m) would be fit to compete in the Community Shield.

This is a big boost for Fantasy managers who were hoping to tap into his apparent monopoly on a starting place in the early part of the season. As one of a few first-team players at Man City who did not take part in this summer’s World Cup, the Algerian may well get several weeks without rotation from Guardiola, which will be important given the fixtures on offer. The only ones not back in training yet are Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin de Bruyne (£10.0m), leaving the door open for Mahrez to play.

We think he’ll probably play in the midfield but it is even a possibility that he could play in a forward’s role within a 3-5-2 system. Either way, we should pay close attention to Mahrez today and see where he might slot into City’s system.

Sergio Aguero (£11.0m) is the more likely of City’s natural centre-forwards to start as he played fewer minutes with Argentina than Gabriel Jesus (£10.5m) did with Brazil in Russia.

It’s also worth monitoring Leroy Sané’s (£9.5m) involvement today. It was believed he would be an important asset to own for Gameweek 1 having missed out on a place in Germany’s World Cup squad, but he is still yet to make a start for City this summer and Guardiola recently revealed he had a lot of work to do to get fit for the new season.

ON THE MENDY

Right now the defensive picture at Man City looks very unclear, and the Community Shield will be an important indicator of who will line-up at Arsenal in Gameweek 1.

At this current point in time perhaps the only player at this end of the pitch we can be confident will get game-time is goalkeeper Ederson (£5.5m), simply because he did not feature in Brazil’s World Cup campaign.

Outside of that, it becomes pure conjecture to try and piece together a predicted starting line-up, as only Guardiola knows what state his defensive assets are in.

The fact that Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) was in the training squad for the pre-season tour has proved not quite as encouraging as first thought, because the Frenchman was not involved in any matches in the USA. In terms of competition, England man Kyle Walker (£6.5m) left Russia with an injury and Danilo (£5.5m) is still carrying the knock he picked up with Brazil. Fabian Delph (£5.5m) was another training late-comer. Perhaps Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.0m) could feature on one flank but Mendy may still have to play on the other.

As for centre-backs, Aymeric Laporte (£5.5m) picked up an injury on tour, while John Stones (£5.5m), Nicolas Otamendi (£6.5m) and Vincent Kompany (£5.5m) have only recently returned to training.

TOO SOON?

Given the special circumstances of this Community Shield match, it is entirely possible that it counts for less than it normally would when predicting Gameweek 1 line-ups.

Ultaimtely, neither one of Guardiola or Sarri wants to be preparing a full first-team for this fixture, with so many important figures affected by the World Cup.

In fact, the City manager said on Friday: “We would prefer to be in another situation but I think Maurizio Sarri is the same. It is what it is, we will adapt and play with guys in better condition. I think we have six substitutes too so everybody will be involved but maybe 90 minutes will not be possible.”

That could indicate that there may well be players who aren’t considered ready for the Community Shield but may become available for the trip to Arsenal in the next week. Accordingly, just because a player is given preference in a position this weekend, does not mean he will hold onto his starting berth the following week.

That’s why Guardiola and Sarri’s press conferences next week could be even more important than this first match of the 2018/19 English season – although it will still be good to witness the return of competitive action for two top-flight teams.

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  1. Gringo Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Seems that David Silva is not ready

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      D,Silva > Mahrez, check! 😉

  2. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Bravo
    Walker Stones Laporte Mendy
    Foden Fernandinho Bernardo
    Mahrez Aguero Sane

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely not the other way around for Mahrez and Bilva?

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Nah. Bilva is the next D.Silva IMO. Play a very similar style of football.

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Considering Mahrez is a better winger than CM, probably

    2. A.T
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Nope, not that either.

  3. stat
      7 years, 5 months ago

      4-2-3-1?

      Bravo
      Walker Stones Laporte Mendy
      Fernandinho Foden
      Mahrez Bernardo Sane
      Aguero

      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        More like the 4141 they played last season.

        1. irsyadFC
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yep for sure, the only starter missing there is KDB (B.Silva), D.Silva (Foden), Sterling (Mahrez) and Ederson

          1. irsyadFC
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            pardon my english. the only, lmao

            1. Petrichor II
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Cakap melayu je senang bro

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        no wing backs then?

        1. Saniul
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Where did this wingback thing come from?

          1. badgerboy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Early last season before Mendy picked up his injury.

        2. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Mendy and Walker will basically be wingbacks when Fernandinho stays back.

    • dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Was David Silva expected not to be in squad?

    • Patty
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      What's up with David Silva?

    • SADIO SANÉ
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      be amusing if Mendy is LCB and Sane LWB 😉

    • Saniul
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling, David Silva and de Bruyne not even on the bench - yet Walker in the starting XI. Interesting.

      1. Critical Observer
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Sterling and Super-Kev aren't even back from the hols yet.

        1. Saniul
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Kinda unfair isn't it - given Walker played the most minutes out of all I think?

    • Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Ederson dropped. So much for that nailed option in defense 😉

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        he ll play in the league

        1. The Pesci challenge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          This

      2. FPL Joker
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        His missus is having a baby

      3. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Late back from World Cup innit.

    • Fire Chief Moe
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Mendy and Mahrez for me, both got to be in with a good shout of starting next weekend unless they get injrued

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I’m going with Shaw & Alexis GW1 to become Mendy & KDB for GW2 if Mendy has made it through 2 games in 2 weeks unscathed

        1. willl
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Lol @ planning 2 transfers GW2

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Lol yep

        2. BERGKOP
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Same. Think Utd will destroy Leicester

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            This. Don’t tell TH14 the team news. Or the fixtures.

      2. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I have Walker. Zero competition in that team with Danilo out.

    • diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Caballero
      Azpilicueta Luiz Rudiger Alonso
      Barkley Jorginho Fabregas
      Odoi Morata Pedro

      1. Zilla
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Barkleywagon

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Nearly but not quite. Good effort.

      3. Andy'81
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Caballero is interdasting with all the talk of Courtois leaving and Rob Green already signed as a back up keeper.

        1. krzys
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          They won't let Courtois go without signing a replacement first.

    • noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      OMG Mendy and Sané playing together!

    • kinghenry14
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      didn't everyone get mendy in their team because pep said they were playing 3atb and him playing wingback? looks like 4atb to me

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Pep said they would utilise 3-5-2 sometimes, not always

      2. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        He'll still be good in a 4 ATB system. We already know how high city press.

      3. kinghenry14
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        cheers will most likely have him anyways

    • Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Can Mendy doubters go away now?

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yes there is categorically no chance he will ever get rested or injured. Especially not today or GW1. Can all those doubters just go away now.

      2. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, him playing his first City minutes of the season in a glorified friendly really means hes nailed to play every game 😉

    • Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      The reasons against owning Salah aren't enough for me not to go without. As far as I've thought about it, there's four things that could make Salah a worse FPL option than last year:

      1. His price is a lot higher. 
      However, it's not much higher than Kane last season, who I was happy to own and captain for large swathes of last season. If he returns about 260/280 points this time around, he should return good value as a captaincy option provided i captain him roughly 5/8 gameweeks when I own him. (Someone else did the maths on this; was on one of those FPL blogs)

      2. More rotation will curtail his minutes and potential for points.
      This is a fair problem to have with owning Salah. Is it really pertinent at GW 1 though? I will start to reconsider owning him around CL. Until then, there is no threat to his minutes. 

      3. He just won't be as good, for an undiscernible reason.
      This could well happen. The best laid plans of mice and men gang aft agley, but there really isn't any hint of it happening in Salahs pre-season performance or his stats from last season. So I'm not willing to bet on it happening "just because".

      4. Money spread will be better invested than in Salah.
      Again, this could easily be the case. However, for the first two gameweeks at least, I can't see any better option than Salah for captaincy (except Aguero at HUD, and there's plenty of issues with that as well). This means that I would be sacrificing the best candidate for captaincy for a more balanced squad, probably replacing the captaincy of Salah with a punt on Auba on the first gameweek (Sanchez isn't an option for me, and neither is any other Liverpool option - Firmino outscored Salah something like twice last season with a double digit haul, and Mane got about three double digit hauls total).

      There's also, of course, lots of good reasons to own him, on top of these counterarguments to the reasons not to own him. And to those who are considering "He will be found out this season, defenders will wise up to him" as a valid reason not to own, I have to say only this: if they could hand done it, it would have happened by now.

      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Let's also say how Liverpool's midfield is so markedly better on paper than last season.

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Happy birthday. You’ve been hulked.

      3. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Go without then.

        1. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Lol @ you, 8 years = get a life 😀

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Hey. I paid good money for the bump up to 8.

            1. Jafooli
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              I paid to be dropped by 2 years 😉

        2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          😳 just realised i triple negatived myself

      4. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Bored of reading Salah debates. People should've made their minds up by now about going with or without.

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I made it up ages ago. Just still wanted something to link if i ever get into an argument about it 🙂 A la deulofail

      5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        The good thing is that I haven’t seen anyone actually planning to go without Salah on here, aside from the odd bizarre RMT here & there. So Salah being the essential captain for GW1 does at least seem to be one thing the entire FFS community agrees on. Must be a first!

      6. FPL Joker
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Or he could be even better than last season as he’s more used to the league, teammates and now has better teammates too. I d rather change down than change up - I ain’t getting Mane and leaving 3.5 in the bank but I am happy to transfer in Mane and upgrade Jota to Eriksson.

    • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      what formation do city play?

      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        4141 or 433. How you call it.

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          no wing backs then, interesting to see how forward walker/mendy get

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Total football.

      3. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        1
        1—————1
        1——1—1
        1-1—————1
        1——1

        Interchangeable

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          😯

          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Source: Etihad Express

        2. Saniul
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          What is this morse code for?

        3. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          So it's a revolutionary 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 formation. Pep's so innovative 😎

    • S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Might punt Hudson-Odoi instead of Jota. Would allow me to have Mendy and Luiz for defence

      1. stat
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Once Hazard is back, isn't that the end of Hudson-Odoi as a starter?

          1. S.Kuqi
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Unfortunately yes. Will get max two starts but I don't mind that.

      2. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Is it a waste of 0.5m to have cairney on bench instead of Stephens?

        Or good security?

        Other bench players likely to be tomkins and AWB....

        Thanks

          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Waste of 0.5

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I have him and 2 other active benchees. No need for hits and panic transfers.

        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Mendy will score today and everyone will bring him in ...

        1. La Roja
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Cool kids got him before his goals

      3. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        CHO CHOOO

        All aboard the Hudson-Odoi Express!

        /s

        1. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          He'll be dropped next week when Willian and / or Moses play in his place.

          1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            /s means he's being sarcastic

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Thank you.

              1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                I'm afraid that it's not quite reddit around here!

      4. built_this_city
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        has anyone done a likely lineups for gameweek 1?

      5. Gooner97
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        BREAKING NEWS | Burnley Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of defender Ben Gibson from Middlesbrough.

        Gibson has agreed a four-year-deal at Turf Moor after Burnley paid a joint club record fee for the centre-back, who becomes Burnley’s first signing of the summer transfer window.

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          £15 million - the world has gone crazy

          1. Hairy Potter
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Incredible. The world is in trouble.

        2. Over Midwicket
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Uh oh..

        3. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Dial up? 😀

      6. Totalfootball
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Is caballero nailed for Chelsea then ?

        1. badgerboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Courtois still at the club.

      7. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Damn, feel I just have to squeeze both Mahrez and Kun in my team now.

        1. Balls of Steel
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yes, done exactly that

      8. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        so that is the Mendy debate over ... until he gets injured 😉

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          yep, not like he gets injured 😆

        2. Guy Demel
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          The debate on city’s XI will never be over

      9. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        How nailed on is Mahrez?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Nailed for at least the next hour

        2. Gringo Kid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          In two hours we will have answer on that question

      10. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        With all 5 of my defenders starting the CS, should I be gagging for a thrilling 0-0 or a disastrous 4-4 to put everyone else off? 😉

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Well, you still don’t get any points for them and don’t know how many of them are starting GW 1

      11. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Well that’s David Silva out my side. Need to find a way to squeeze in Mahrez

        1. Saniul
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Too much competition for Mahrez's place for my liking.

        2. Gooner97
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Punt on B.Silva?

        3. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Why did you expect a player who is reportedly going to be managed more carefully this season to play a glorified friendly a week before the season starts? This really changes nothing.

      12. Bissisine
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Ederson on the bench.
        But he wil start in PL 100%???

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yeh

        2. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          No. Sell him.

          1. Bissisine
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Ederson should start every pl match?
            Is there any doubt I will sell

        3. Balls of Steel
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yes, he will start gw1, 100% nailed...hes Peps number 1 for certain

        4. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Obviously it's the crappy Charity Shield keepers are always rotated in it and the cups

      13. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Just noticed the Community Shield is on BT Sport. Bore off. Bring back the Sky Sports and terrestrial TV glory days.

        Gonna have to watch it on my tiny little phone screen attached to a charger...

      14. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Looks like I don't need to make any changes to my team. 4/4 starters 😎