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Over the summer Fantasy Football Scout entered into partnership with StatsBomb who, like Opta, provide statistics for football matches. 

Championed by many in the analytics community, the reason we decided to team up with StatsBomb is that they provide the most granular event data on the market. 

From player and defender locations on every shot to pressures, shot height and shot velocity, StatsBomb collects more data points from matches.

This extra context makes their expected goals (xG) model the most accurate and realistic available.

Most Premier League teams, including data pioneers Liverpool, use StatsBomb to help inform player recruitment and team performance.

And Premium Members can now access this data through a series of tables in our Members Area

This article will take a look at some of the insights we can gain from those tables. 

What makes Haaland essential?

Earling Haaland’s (£15.3m) finishing has been outstanding this season. 

With goals like his third versus Ipswich Town, he’s transformed low-quality chances into good goalscoring opportunities. 

The StatsBomb Shots table illustrates this. 

His nine non-penalty goals had an xG value of 4.36, but taking into account his clinical finishing ability he’s registered 8.21 post-shot xG. 

Expected goals (xG) factors in everything up to the moment of the shot but tells us nothing about the shot itself. In essence, it measures the quality of the chance presented to the player. 

Post-shot xG, on the other hand, measures the quality of the shot

It tells us that when it comes to shot execution, not only has Haaland made the most of the chances that have come his way, but his over-performance is not as great as xG alone would have us believe. 

StatsBomb Shots table from the Fantasy Football Scout members area, sorted by Shot Execution

StatsBomb Shots table sorted by “Shot Execution (Post-Shot xG minus xG)”
(click to expand)

Indeed, the 3.84 xG he’s added to his shots is more than double that of any other player.

It’s also notable that Mohamed Salah’s (£12.8m) smaller xG over-performance can be explained by the quality of his shooting. His three goals match his 3.00 post-shot xG exactly.

Why does this matter?

Well, it tells us that Haaland’s xG over-performance is less about luck, such as goalkeeper or defender errors, and can be attributed to shot execution. If he keeps shooting this well you’d expect him to sustain this level of output, as crazy as that sounds.

Fortunate Finishers

For players such as Jhon Duran (£6.1m), Harvey Barnes (£6.5m) and even Luis Diaz (£7.9m), however, there’s a greater degree of good fortune to their goalscoring.

StatsBomb Shots table from the Fantasy Football Scout members area showing post-shot xG over-performance

StatsBomb Shots table sorted by “Post-Shot xG Delta (Goals minus Post-Shot xG)”
(click to expand)

Duran has scored 2.19 more goals than his xG would suggest but, despite his rocket against Everton, the goalkeepers and defenders should have done better with those efforts. A 1.75 post-shot xG score is, in fact, lower than his xG total.

And while his international team-mate Diaz has added value to his shooting opportunities, converting 2.85 xG into 3.68 post-shot xG, he’s still scored above expectations.

As Tom pointed out in his analysis on Diaz, high-quality opportunities, Opta-defined “big chances”, have underpinned the Colombian’s upturn in form this season. 

Looking at the data available to the editorial team, that’s reflected in the StatsBomb numbers as well. 

StatsBomb Luis Diaz xG shot buckets 2024/25 season

Grouping shots into buckets, Luis Diaz has converted five of his six chances rated at 0.2 xG or above.

Although it’s a small sample size, the distribution of better quality opportunities is evident compared to last season, where the majority of his efforts were much lower quality. 

Notably, none of the 48 shots he had below 0.1 xG resulted in goals.

StatsBomb Luis Diaz xG shot buckets 2023/24 season

An increase in his xG per shot from 0.12 to 0.22 has helped fuel his explosive start to the new campaign, and a little luck hasn’t gone amiss either.

Under pressure

For those on a Gameweek 6 Wildcard trying to decide what to do with Liverpool players, the serious injury to Yerson Mosquera (£4.0m) means Wolves will be without one of their best performers this season. 

No defender has more successful pressure regains than the young Colombian. According to the StatsBomb Pressures table, the cut-price defender has 27 pressure regains, which means Wolves won back possession 27 times within five seconds of Mosquera pressurising an opponent.

StatsBomb Pressures table from the Fantasy Football Scout members area, sorted by Pressure Regains

StatsBomb Pressures table sorted by “Pressure Regains”
(click to expand)

A “Pressure” is when a player applies pressure within 4-5 yards of an opposing player in possession of the ball.

Research by StatsBomb revealed that a significantly higher proportion of goals are scored in the absence of pressure than under pressure. From a sample of 46,829 shots, 14 per cent with no pressure applied resulted in goals compared to just seven per cent of shots under pressure.

PressureNo Pressure
Goal Conversion Rate0.070.14

Mosquera could be sorely missed in other words.

Under the hood

Before we finish, let’s take a deeper look at what goes into StatsBomb’s xG and post-shot xG models.

Starting with their Freeze Frames, we’ll examine that third goal of Haaland’s versus Ipswich as an example.

StatsBomb Freeze Frame Pitch View Haaland v Ipswich

Freeze Frames record the precise defender and goalkeeper locations for all shots. This means StatsBomb can measure things, such as defensive pressure, known to have an impact on the outcome of those chances.

Here’s how the “freeze frame” of that shot looked on video.

Haaland's third goal v Ipswich Town, video still

StatsBomb’s Freeze Frames also feature a ‘Keeper Cone’ – a triangle drawn between the shot taker and the goalposts to highlight the amount of goal the shot-taker is able to see. Including the proportion of the goalface blocked by the defenders.

StatsBomb Freeze Frame Keeper Cone Haaland v Ipswich

Another feature unique to StatsBomb is Shot Impact Height. This is the height of the ball when a shot is struck. Essentially, ground shots are more likely to result in a goal compared to shots around waist height because the technique required is much easier to execute.

These factors and others, such as distance and angle, estimate that Haaland’s shooting opportunity would result in a goal about three per cent of the time (0.03 xG). 

But when we include shot placement and shot velocity, the post-shot xG model revises that estimation up to 42 per cent.

StatsBomb Freeze Frame Goal Face Haaland v Ipswich

Shot Placement & Velocity

We can estimate the goalscoring likelihood if the shot was placed anywhere along the goal face. This can inform us on whether the shot placement was optimal, or how far off optimality a particular shot was. In simple cases, this may be obvious since shooting towards the corner of the goal furthest from the goalkeeper is the optimal shot, but becomes non-trivial if there are defenders blocking that shot path.

StatsBomb on the importance of shot placement

While the amount of the goal the player can see helps to determine the best place to put the ball, the probability of scoring increases the harder the shot is struck. As this GIF below illustrates. 

A more accurate picture

One final note — and why we prefer StatsBomb post-shot xG to Opta’s equivalent metric, Expected Goals On Target — is the inclusion of goalkeeper and defender positions.

While Opta upgraded their xG model in 2022 to include ‘keeper location and defensive pressure, it appears their post-shot xG model did not fully benefit from those changes.

It largely looks at where the shot ended up within the frame of the goal. Shots in the corners are given a higher value than shots down the middle. But what if there are defenders blocking the corners? Or what if it’s an open goal?

Take this strike by Gabriel Martinelli (£6.9) in Arsenal’s 4-2 win at Aston Villa in February last year. 

Goalkeeper Emi Martinez (£5.0m) has gone up for a corner kick and is stranded as Martinelli breaks away to slot the ball into an empty net.

Arsenal's fourth goal v Aston Villa scored by Martinelli, video still

Opta gave it an xG of 0.98 but their post-shot xG model rated it at 0.68.

It feels rather unkind to knock Martinelli’s finishing down by 0.3 xG simply because his shot ended up in the middle of the goal rather than in a corner.

StatsBomb Freeze Frame Pitch View Martinelli v Aston Villa

Happily, StatsBomb’s post-shot xG model doesn’t do that, rating the chance at 0.99 xG and the shot at 1.00 PSxG.

It’s this level of granular detail that makes StatsBomb’s expected goals models the best available.



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  1. rainy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Price Changes 28th September

    Rises: Saka (10.1), Havertz (8.2), N.Jackson (7.8), Mbeumo (7.3), Wood (6.2), Semenyo (5.7), McNeil (5.5), Raúl (5.5), Stewart (4.6)

    Falls: Garnacho (6.3), Gibbs-White (6.3), Werner (6.2), Armstrong (5.3), Roerslev (4.4), Walton (4.4), Sessegnon (4.3), Hall (4.3)

    1. NoName
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cheers Rainy!

    2. iFash@FPL
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cheers and thanks to the Rainy Man!

    3. OverTinker
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      .1 profit on wood

    4. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      + 3 🙂

    5. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cheers Rainy!

    6. The Night Trunker.
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      See the mice in their million hordes.

    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Ah, messed up my WC by missing one price change and now 0.1m off, back to the drawing board!

    8. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cheers, 0.5 up

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        No 3.9......ahwell

    9. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Very nice!

      Greaves held!

    10. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Wasn’t expecting Havertz

      1. Genji3lade
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Havertz wasn't anywhere near rising on Fplstats.

        What is the most reliable site nowadays for price changes?

        1. Tonyawesome69
          • 6 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Hub had Havertz increasing

          1. Casual Player
            • 5 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            I shouldve checked Hub… looks like the only significant difference in predictions between the two. But just 0.1 lost I guess

        2. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Does anyone take fplstats seriously anymore. Wildly different to the other main ones with likes of Henderson and Bentley close to dropping for days

    11. Tonyawesome69
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Lovely 2nd double price rise on WC from Jackson

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Forgot about Mbeumo

    12. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cool. 3 dbl rises this week on WC with Diaz, Mbeumo & Jackson.

    13. Mozumbus
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Cheers rainy

    14. JohnnyCroat
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      0.2 up... sweet.

    15. FP El Wonky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Thanks Rainy.
      That's a solid 2 Nil.

      Garnacho and Gibbs White could be good options in weeks to come

    16. Mr. Eko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Template Wildcard FAIL this gameweek coming up !!!!

      1. rainy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        #fantasyfootballschadenfreude

        1. NorCal Villan
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          My favorite of the freudes

          1. rainy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Surprisingly compelling for such a Jung addition to the lexicon

            1. NorCal Villan
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              Well-played, cheers

        2. Mr. Eko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          cough cough

    17. Mr. Eko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      epicaricacy

    18. Mr. Eko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      it never rains but it pours

      Hope the points will come to you this weekend Rainy the Brainy !

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Just a box of rain, wind and water
        Believe it if you need it
        If you don't, just pass it on
        Sun and shower, wind and rain
        In and out the window
        Like a moth before a flame

    19. C-Dawgg
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I really wish I had Wood

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        There’s pills for that now

    20. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Salah haul incoming!

  2. SAY MY NAME
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    5-0 happy days

    was hoping for a 3.9 GK, but good enough 🙂

  3. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Onana 4m
    Taa konate Gabriel (Lewis Greaves)

    Too heavy in defence? Cheers

    Could have Alisson Collins instead of Onana konate? Thanks

  4. Norco
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Eyes are closing, sweet dreams or night mares?

    Flekken (Vald)
    TAA Gabriel Konsa Faes Greaves
    Saka Diaz Mbuemo Semenyo Rogers
    Haaland Havertz Solanke

    0.0 ITB

    1. SAY MY NAME
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      sweet dreams, looks good!

      1. Norco
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Thanks, I will snuggle my pillow and dream of fluffy clouds of Guinness.

        1. SAY MY NAME
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          😀

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      If you are wrong everyone else is too

      1. Norco
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        We were all wrong hence wildcarding so nothing new to see ere

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          😀

        2. NorCal Villan
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Nobody's right if everybody's wrong

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Very strong
      Who you bench this week?

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Bench headache.

    5. NorCal Villan
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      It's all a dream we dreamed on afternoon long ago

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        One, not “on”

  5. Genji3lade
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Who scores more over the next 3?

    A.) Havertz (Lei H, Sou H, Bou A)
    B.) Watkins (Ips A, Mun H, Ful A)

  6. Tonyawesome69
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    WC activated... -44 transfer points wiped out

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Bliss. That's awesome Tony.

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Did anyone other than Haaland survive

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Paulsen, TAA, ESR and Rogers

    3. lilmessipran
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I blame your antics for that Wood price rise.

    4. Fellaini's Fro
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Hahaha, nice one. Thank you for your contributions to the rest of us who pushed the button early.

    5. NorCal Villan
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Classic Tonya Wesome 69!

  7. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    That havertz rise is out f nowhere.. Jackson is a placeholder anyway and got 0.1m profit on him, evens out.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      FFFix & FFHub both had him predicted to rise, but you're right FPLStatistics didn't.

      I was tempted to see if could game an extra 0.1m by holding Jackson (so he rose and maybe Havertz wouldn't), but chickened out last minute. I got very fortunate with a rise the other day, so wasn't chancing fate further!

      But as you say, they both rose so didn't matter either way. (Permitting this was the 2nd rise you had for Jackson).

      1. Genji3lade
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        I quickly glanced at price on Fpl Stats and didn't even think Havertz was close to a rise, and figured I would delay my moves until any potential leaks as I have value tied in Raya / Jackson etc.

        0.1m short of Gvardiol now, and either have to go with Lewis or downgrade Myko to Faes to afford. So dumb, should of just locked it in smh

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Lewis is worth Gvardiol...

  8. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    I have zero players in my starting 12 (1st bench included) under 10% ownership

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      As long as they’re scoring points! Nice stat though I must say

    2. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I have Dibling (2.1%) starting and Dunk (7.5%) as my first sub

    3. NorCal Villan
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I have two

  9. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Which is better WC ?
    A-
    Sels (FAB)
    TAA Gabriel Gavrdiol ( Faes Greaves)
    Salah © Semenyo Mbeumo Rogers (Dibling)
    Haaland Wood Havertz
    B-
    Sels (FAB)
    TAA Gabriel Aina (Faes Greaves)
    Saka Díaz Semenyo Mbeumo
    (Dibling)
    Havertz Haaland © Solanke

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Both very good. Leaning towards B.

      I like the Solanke pick and the overall balance

      1. Bank$y
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        B

    2. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Think I’d sway to B.
      A could be Lewis + Davis instead of Gvardiol + Faes for some cash itb

    3. Wobbles
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Not sure about the double forest defence in B. Think Gvardiol could be a shrewd pick for next 3-4 weeks.

  10. RyanMK
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    On WC. 1 or 2

    1. Flekken + Lewis + Greaves
    2. Raya + Greaves + Keane

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Edging towards 1, but merits for both.

  11. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Okay, so more or less finalised my team:

    Flekken (Valdimarsson)
    TAA Gabriel Gvardiol (Mykolenko Greaves)
    Salah Diaz Mbuemo Semenyo Rogers
    Haaland Havertz (DCL)

    Could switch Flekken and Greaves for alternatives tomorrow, but we'll see.

    However just realised an exact switch for Gvardiol & Mykolenko could be Lewis & Porro, leaving me with:

    Flekken (Valdimarsson)
    TAA Gabriel Lewis (Porro Greaves)
    Salah Diaz Mbuemo Semenyo Rogers
    Haaland Havertz (DCL)

    ... is this better?

    Definitely causes benching headaches & not sure exactly when I'd play Porro ahead, but as far as backups go it is an exciting pick.

    Will be looking out for leaks tomorrow.

    1. Bank$y
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      The second is much better, don't doubt yourself.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        For above Salah is definitely meant to be Saka 😆

        That would be ridiculous otherwise!

    2. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Seems the only difference is
      Gvardiol + Mykolneko
      Vs
      Lewis + Porro

      I’d go B. Gvardiol not worth 6m so far

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Haha yes. That was what the rest of the comment was explaining!

        Agree he hasn't been worth it. But definitely nice peace of mind regarding starts over the upcoming stretch of fixtures (mostly).

        1. Boberella
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Apologies, missed the middle comment! Tbh both are good and prob not too different points-wise
          I’m going for Raul as the 8th attacker as rotates well with Semenyo’s bad fixtures and owning DCL has historically been a nightmare for me so can never go there again!
          Think Ndiaye has looked good as an alternative.

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Didn't realise Raul was only 5.5m. What puts me off about him is that Muniz will steal minutes off the bench, and could even start ahead of him. But being burnt previously is a fair reason. Agree Ndiaye looked exciting. Hopefully he feeds DCL though...

            1. Boberella
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              Watching the games I think Raul has looked his sharpest in years and with ESR playing well (and dare I say it Traore!), Jimi should be a good pick. He’ll get lions share of the minutes vs Muniz in current form and should only need to field him in 8, 9 & 10.

              1. Hazz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 year, 2 months ago

                Agree. Fulham look a unit. This is partly why I'm actually quite disheartened to sell ESR on Wildcard. I know I'll likely want him back eventually.

        2. Genji3lade
          • 7 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          I now want the first team so bad now that im 0.1 short lol.

          Had exact money just did not see the Havertz rise coming as was using Fplstats.

          Only 0.1m but damn it hurts.

          For now forced to go Lewis and Myko.

          If we get news Lewis benched, would you downgrade Myko to Faes in my situation to be able to afford Gvardiol? Not ideal but with Gvardiol being more nailed than Lewis I wouldn't be expecting my Greaves or Faes to feature much.

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Yeah that Havertz rise likely caught out a few.

            I predominantly use FPLStatistics too and probably would have been less aware of it if not for 'creators' tweeting about it. Didn't affect me either way but credit where it's due... although maybe they're fueling the surge of transfers too.

            This is a toughie becuase Pep is still Pep, and he probably can bench him at any time. Imagine it won't be often though - so on that basis the 2x 4.0s will be okay MOST of the time... and their fixtures could be worse (even though they'll still concede).

            Technically could start with Lewis & upgrade to Gvardiol once you make a sale elsewhere (E.g. After downgrading Havertz > Solanke GW8). Extra transfer used though.

            But I don't think it's a disaster if Mykolenko comes in.

            I don't typically like 2x 4.0m DEFs as you know you'll need to move one on sooner or later... but don't think it's TERRIBLE for you.

            1. Genji3lade
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              Yeh, just got to hope for positive news on Lewis.

              If it's confirmed hes benched I likely would feel obliged to replace him, and naturally drawn to Gvardiol as want City coverage.

              Probably will just sacrifce Myko for Faes, and will be rare for him or Greaves to feature unless TAA, Gab or Gvardiol get injured or rotated.

              So annoyed at myself, should of just locked it in!

              Thanks for the advice and best of luck!

    3. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I love it when you find a combination that works better unintentionally.

      I prefer B, and think Porro could outdo Gvardiol quite easily.

    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Am I missing something, how can you afford that?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        I bought Lewis ahead of GW4 so he was a tad cheaper than if I bought him this week. 0.1m up on the deal.

        1. Sun Jihai
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Wow, even for the first one I'm like 2.7m short, would have to go Saka over Salah

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Oh blimey I didn't even notice I wrote Salah. Yeah he's meant to be Saka. Didn't spit that at all!

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              And it didn't spit it either. *spot! Time for bed I think.

              1. NorCal Villan
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 2 months ago

                Just how awesome would an edit function be?

                1. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 year, 2 months ago

                  I dream of the day.

  12. SpaceCadet
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Best option here? 1 ft, 1.3m itb

    A. Raya Robinson > Flekken Gabriel -4
    B. Soucek Robinson > Gabriel dibling -4
    C. Save ft

    Raya
    Robbo Robinson Konsa
    Salah Mbeumo esr rogers
    Haaland havertz Jackson

    Valdi soucek greaves faes

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Tough one taking a hit involving a GK. I can see your intentions and I think A generates more value than B.

      But if Raya back next week, do you try to bring him back or leave Gabriel as your cover?

      Overall, leaning towards A.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Could get him back, not sure yet. Flekken has decent fixtures too. Leaning towards A myself. Thanks mate.

    2. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      If it’s to afford Gabriel, I would definitely consider downgrading Raya.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Is it worth a hit though?

        1. Boberella
          • 9 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          I’d say if raya is out with no backup then yes.

          1. SpaceCadet
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Hopefully we get some news before deadline. Else a hit might be worth it. Cheers

            1. Boberella
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              Rumours are he didn’t train and isn’t in the team hotel, but don’t know how legit that is.

              1. SpaceCadet
                • 11 Years
                1 year, 2 months ago

                Yea saw that. Will just keen an eye out for more news. Probably take the hit if there’s no more news. Thanks bud

  13. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Awww my bloody dog did Hall to Gabriel -4 D'oh

    1. lilmessipran
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Smart, sheepdog?

    2. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      She is too smart to be a chihuahua

    3. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Arteta back at it with the Dark Arts

  14. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Last time Arsenal played Leicester at home they scored 4 and Saka had no goal involvements lol - meltdown if that happened again!
    https://www.premierleague.com/match/74921

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Okay Mr. History

  15. The Count of Monte Cristo
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Low TV — spare 0.5m —> Upgrade Jackson to Havertz / Solanke and good to go?

    Flekken
    TAA — Gabriel — R. Lewis
    Saka — L. Diaz — Mbeumo — Semenyo
    DCL — Haaland — N.Jackson

    Fab — Mykolenko — Greaves — Dibling + 0.5m

  16. Casual Player
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Why Greaves and not Tuanzebe - is it just bandwagoning the likely price rises (Greaves will hit 4.1 1st), or is there a playing reason too?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      just checked sofascore and greaves has slightly better attacking stats.

  17. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    So Valdimarsson... assuming you have Flekken & Mbuemo.

    Say that Carvalho, or even Schade, or VDB, become players we may want to invest in... *

    ...is it better to go with an alternative 4.0m GK so you're not booked?

    I appreciate the irony in saying its unlikely a keeper gets injured is lost on us given the current Raya situation.

    *e.g. say Rogers/Greaves became injured, albeit former wouldn't matter much.

    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I have Whiteman

    2. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I think Fabs is probably the best set and forget 2nd 4m GK. Never gonna need 3 west ham! Haha.

      1. Boberella
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        And on the off chance Flekken gets injured (unlikely but possible as it does happen), just swap Flekken to someone. Team is strong enough to bank a couple of transfers.

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Yeah good point on just moving the 4.5m. That's something I know I'd probably do, rather than leave an injured keeper (unless was rotating.)

          I guess with Fabianski he's the most likely to play either via random Areola niggle (seems to happened now and then), or new manager if one came in...

          Probably not still as he's getting on.

          Probably won't go with Vlad. Or maybe I will. But probably won't.

          I do tentatively think Flekken may become Raya from GW12 anyway.

          1. Boberella
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Been a few reliable/good posters on here last article stating a decent case for Sels as a good 4.5m option too. I’m considering if I get rid of Raya.

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      reckon vbd with start v w ham?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        I'd lean towards no, but definitely not a 0% chance he wouldn't. Could play RB or CB.

        Basing this on Brentford forum posters.

        Based on current info, you can't really tell when he'll start.

    4. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Usually I would say pick a different GK, just to avoid that potential situation.

      It’s ofc less likely with Brentford than Liverpool, but think it avoids a potential headache

  18. marpy016
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Which option on WC?

    A) ESR, DCL & Gvardiol - with rotation between DCL, ESR & Rogers

    B) Dibling, Havertz, Lewis - Dibling is 8th attacker and Aina as cover for Lewis

    1. Avery
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I like B

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      b

  19. Al Pacho
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Verbruggen
    TAA Robinson Faes
    Salah Diaz Palmer Rogers ESR
    Haaland Dcl

    Fab Pedro Nedel Johnson

    Palmer, Johnson, Pedro (out)
    Semenyo, Gabriel, Havertz (in) for -8

    Worth the moves ? Unable to bring in saka

    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Wouldn’t do a -8

  20. Avery
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    A. Konate and Jackson
    B. TAA and DCL

    Hmm?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      a

  21. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    how nailed is dibling?

  22. Joyce1998
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on Salah captain over Haaland?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I would if I had salah

  23. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    option a is better than b isnt it?

    a onana and konate
    b alisson and collins

    cheers and gl

  24. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    captain

    a haaland
    b diaz

    cheers

    1. SAY MY NAME
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      a unless you really want to gamble

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        yeah a seem sensible. cheers

        1. SAY MY NAME
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Diaz could haul and would be a great rankings boost, but I'd just be scared to go against the Terminator in his current form

          1. Ajax Hamsterdam
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            yep no point trying to be too clever and ruins a wc I spent about 10000000 hours building up 🙂

            1. SAY MY NAME
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 2 months ago

              there is that lol 🙂

  25. SAY MY NAME
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    which one?

    a) DCL + Gavrdiol
    b) Solanke + Mykolenko

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      b

      1. SAY MY NAME
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        cheers

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      B

      1. SAY MY NAME
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        cheers

    3. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      A

  26. Boberella
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Still stuck on this.
    Really want a long term set and forget GK.

    Raya (Fabs)
    TAA Gabriel Davis (VdB Greaves)
    Palmer Mbeumo Diaz Semenyo Rogers
    Haaland Jackson (Raul)

    A) Raya + Jackson (current)
    B) Sanchez + Havertz
    C) Sanchez + Watkins

    Sanchez could be Sels + 0.2m in B&C.
    Don't fancy Flekken.

    1. Boberella
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      B could also upgrade VdB to Lewis, but no cash to jump on Watkins later.

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      i prefer b.

    3. SAY MY NAME
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Raya and Havertz, sell Raul to fund it

      1. Boberella
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Thanks.
        Raul specifically to cover Semenyo bad fixtures 8,9,10, so won’t be downgrading him.
        Doubt Raya will play but kinda happy to take the 0 pointer if only for 1 week.

        1. SAY MY NAME
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          what if Raul loses his place to Muniz?

          1. Boberella
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Doubt that will happen, barring injury. If so, I’ll move Jimi to ndiaye who has looked good.

    4. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I like Sanchez but I do worry about potential rotation around the Christmas period

  27. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC team. I think I'm set

    Sanchez (Muric)
    TAA Gabriel Lewis (Milenkovic Ait Nouri)
    Saka Diaz Mbeumo Rogers (ESR)
    Haaland Jackson Wood
    0.2 ITB

    Could go Semenyo over ESR but I'm keen to keep him long term and also don't want to have too many players with only a 2 GW horizon.

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      i would 100% downgrade muric to a 4m keeper. can you do milen to konate?

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        With Raya doubt I think on WC I'll get 4.5/4.5 or 4.4 to save headache of playing with no GK and not needing a trade on one down the line

        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Thats my thinking as well. I would hate to use a transfer on a GKer

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I quite like that you've put Ait Nouri in there for the future. Could go down again and Wolves still struggling but upside definitely exists. Expensive for a 5th DEF though!

      Fair enough reason on Semenyo/ESR. Wood & ESR rotate pretty okay.

      Nice one for being a tiny bit different.

      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Thanks. Wolves and Forest rotate well so if Lewis gets a benching I have a good rotation sub.

  28. Whiz40
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Do we think Leo Trossard is a good option for Arsenals upcoming matches?? I already have Havertz & can’t afford Saka….

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      yep could pay off. i d pick marti but it s a bit of a flip a coin situation

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I think he is. Could be subject to rotation but at his price I think it's worth the risk

  29. Vincetac84
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Holà,
    Down to this on my WC:
    A) Solanke / Saliba / (Mykolenko as sub)
    B) Havertz / Lewis / (Aina as sub)

    Rest of the Team is:
    Flekken / (Fabianski)
    TAA / Gabriel / (Greaves)
    Saka / Mbeumo / Diaz / Semenyo / (Rogers)
    Haaland / Wood

    Cheers

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      b!

      1. Vincetac84
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

  30. Under my Cucurella
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 2 months ago

    On WC, how would you fill in the blanks?

    A: Flekken Semenyo DCL
    B: Raya Rogers Larsen

    xx Fab
    TAA Gabriel Colwill Konsa Greaves
    Saka Diaz Mbuemo ESR xx
    Haaland Jackson xx

    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      A

      1. Under my Cucurella
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Thanks! I also have 0.2ITB left over, thinking of upgrading one of Konsa or Colwill to Lewis. Who would you keep C or K?

        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Tough one, I would move on Konsa due to CL involvement.

          1. Under my Cucurella
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Thanks, was leaning towards this as well

    2. NZREDS
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 2 months ago

      A