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30 November 2020 1459 comments
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Brendan Rodgers has pulled the rug from underneath the feet of 4.1% of Fantasy Premier League managers by naming Harvey Barnes (£6.9m) among the substitutes for Gameweek 10.

Leicester host Fulham in one of their most favourable matches of the season so far, perhaps why he has dropped the winger back to the bench following three starts in the last four Gameweeks.

James Maddison (£7.0m) and Dennis Praet (£5.5m) are afforded the support roles in attacking midfield tonight, behind Jamie Vardy (£10.2m), who looks set to truly define the outcome of Gameweek 10 for many.

The Leicester striker was top of the Fantasy Football Scout captain poll last week, emerged as the top 10k’s favourite skipper and collected over a million armbands worldwide for this match.

However, if Vardy is to truly reward the groundswell of support he must do tonight something he done only once in 2020/21 so far: score a Premier League goal at home.

He has 10 attacking returns this season but nine of those have come on the road, the other recorded against Wolves in Gameweek 8.

Fulham are the perfect opponent to face in the face of that quest though. They have given up an average of 1.8 goals per away game this season.

Interest in their assets continues to wane, especially considering that both Tom Cairney (£5.3m) and Aleksandar Mitrović (£5.6m) have been named on the bench, Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£5.9m) and Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.3m) handed the number 10 and centre-forward roles respectively.

Leicester City XI (3-4-2-1): Schmeichel; Fuchs, Evans, Fofana; L Thomas, Tielemans, N Mendy, Justin; Maddison, Praet; Vardy.

Fulham XI (4-2-3-1): Areola; A Robinson, Adarabioyo, Andersen, Aina; Zambo Anguissa, Reed; Lookman, Loftus-Cheek, De Cordova-Reid; Cavaleiro.

Lessons Learned from FPL Gameweek 10

  1. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 6 months ago

    10 minutes and the Vardy Doom Mongers come out to play.

    1. JamieC180
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 6 months ago

      Wishful thinking - hope they're right though

    2. MJF
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Didn't even realise it had kicked off!

        These kick off times are an absolute mess.

    3. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 6 months ago

      Such a weird time for a game of elite football in the UK.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Not really relevant if the fans can't get in I guess.

      2. DAZZ
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        I love it. In from work, quick shower, make food, sit down watch the football!

      3. JELLYFISH
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        I remember European Cup games being on the telly late afternoon early evening back in the day

    4. People in Preston
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 6 months ago

      I've been pondering the Cavani situation. If he gets a 3 match ban it will be ridiculous.

      Is the world so black and white (no pun intended) that people from different cultures aren't allowed to express themselves in their own culture to a best friend in their own culture, whilst living in a different culture?

      The fact that Bilva got branded a racist and a one match ban for tweeting to a team mate and best friend, just shows how much the system is f-cked up. I don't think Bilva's form has ever recovered.

      I know there's a bunch of people tasked with driving out racism in football. I'll nail my colours to the flag pole now. Racism is abhorrent and should be exterminated with all prejudice.

      But if we all what to live in a multicultural society, can we please accept that someone from another culture may make an unintended mistake? And then learn from it. They don't need to be dragged over hot coals.

      YMMV.

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Agree with absolutely everything you have said.

      2. Fred54
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        He used the word 'Negrito' but in a friendly manner, to a Black fan who was complementary.

        Many people saying while the word looks bad to anyone seeing it first time, in some quarters of South America its akin to saying 'My *******' and are claiming back from racists who use it as a slur.

        Didn't Suarez use this too? I guess context is very important. But I don't think the FA should go into sub culture nuances, blanket ban.

        1. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          The question is, why is he referring to a black fan by the colour of his skin, even if meant in a friendly manner?

          The word is basically a throwback to the times of when the black population were considered slaves. That culture still exists in large parts of Latin America and unless challenged, will persist.

          1. HashAttack
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Calling someone a "black fan" is also referring to someone by the colour of their skin
            Nigrum is the Latin word for black - all romance languages are based on Latin - nothing to do with slavery or racism

            1. diesel001
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 6 months ago

              The only reason I used 'black fan' in my post is because it is relevant to Cavani's post on Instagram. Why does the colour of his skin matter in Cavani's reply?

              Because of the bias that exists (as I said not conscious) within the culture that the language used sees black people as inferior.

              Change the actions and change the language.

              1. HashAttack
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 6 months ago

                But you are still using the word black .. because you are using English. What would you have typed in you were using Spanish?

                English : "why is he referring to a black fan by the colour of his skin"
                Spanish : "¿por qué se refiere a un ventilador negro por el color de su piel"

              2. Sgt Frank Drebin
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 6 months ago

                Sometimes I feel like you English and Americans look at the whole world through your cultural, marked with history of slavery, glasses. The main reason for all prejudice is not understanding another person really.

        2. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah, Suarez used it in an aggressive manner, during an argument, with a man of colour on the pitch.

          Cavani used it post match in a celebratory way.

          I do think context matters and by no means do I think Cavani meant it in a bad way.

      3. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Disagree. Punish the action and educate the perpetrator.

        Punishment sends the signal not to do it. Education helps to eradicate it in future.

        1. Woy_is_back
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          ^brainwashed beyond rescue

          1. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Nope. I just understand why people use the words they do. Do I think Cavani is being deliberately racist? No

            But it is part of the subconscious bias to refer to black people by their skin colour. A throwback to the times when black people were slaves.

        2. JONALDINHO
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          It’s part of his culture to use the word, giving him a ban is ridiculous. He understands what’s he’s done and had no idea it would offend anyone. A ban is pointless

        3. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Modern missionaries...

          "Our culture is right, yours is wrong - but we will teach you better"

          1. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Nope. All cultures have learning to do. But there is no doubt that when it comes to black people, large parts of Latin America and Eastern Europe are miles behind in equal treatment.

            1. Paganoi
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 6 months ago

              This is the most arrogant and asinine thing I've seen in while. And whose culture/values should we base this global re-education on? Yours? Don't assume other cultures are backwards simply because they do not line up with your preconceived notions of what constitutes a decent human being.

              1. diesel001
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 6 months ago

                Everyone's cultures. Take the best out of all cultures. As I said 'All cultures have learning to do'.

                But if you honestly believe that black people are treated worse in the UK than in Russia, say, then you are deluded.

                1. Paganoi
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 6 months ago

                  Once again, who determines what is the "best" of all cultures. If you can't see that this is highly subjective then it is you who are deluded.

          2. LickymyUmtitis69
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Singaporean fried rice?

      4. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous

      5. @persecuted_by_mods
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Agree on the Cavani one, however the Bilva one I disagree with you. It's not as if he sent it to a friend privately he did it on social media

        • DAZZ
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Man United should have provided some form of cultural training during his induction. His English obviously isn’t the best, and the do’s and dont’s should be wrote out to him.

        • gonzalocampos
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          I am from South America (Ecuador) and I agree 10000%. This is part of our culture. We used different nicknames to close friends in a different manner, for example:
          - If you look Asian your nick is "Chino"
          - If you are from Middle East your nick is "Turco"
          - If you are from USA your nick is "Gringo"
          - Same with the people of color, we use "Negrito"
          - Colombians for example use the word "marica" for everything (Google the translation) , this word is widely used as “brother”, “mate” or “pal” with no intention to offend no one.

          1. Boss Hogg
            • 16 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            And if someone took offence at being called Chino or Turco or whatever, would that be their problem or yours?

            1. gonzalocampos
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 6 months ago

              You said these nicknames to your friends, not to strangers.

              1. FourLokoLeipzig
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 6 months ago

                Boss Hogg’s question still stands. Just because they didn’t say they were offended... doesn’t mean they weren’t

                1. gonzalocampos
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 6 months ago

                  Because you call these nicknames to your close friends, never to strangers. There is a difference. Same as Cavani, he mentioned that to a friend not to a stranger.

        • MIDIMAN2010
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          People comparing this to Suarez incident makes me sick.
          Strip it back to context and the meaning in his native tongue. - he’s don’t nothing wrong. End of. He’s been made aware, he’s apologised - end of and move on.

        • FourLokoLeipzig
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          It would be easier to accept an “unintended mistake” if we were talking about a 20 year old kid signed straight from a Uruguayan club. But Suarez played in Amsterdam for 5 years before joining Liverpool, and Cavani has been playing in Paris for the last 7 years. The Cavani situation is different to that of Suarez, not last because Cavani has apologised. I felt ashamed to be a Liverpool fan when the club defended him to the hilt and the players wore those ridiculous t-shirts

      6. WVA
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Fulham dominating, Vardy not touched the ball

        1. The Ilfordian
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          That’s normal Vardy. Could easily have two goals by half time. Or none in 90 of course

        2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Why would you say that, he is bound to score now !!!

      7. JamieC180
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Hey guys. I feel I need some Man City cover.

        McCarthy
        Chilwell Coufal Justin
        Salah Jota Grealish Bruno
        Wilson Kane DCL
        (Steer, Bidsoumma, Kilman, Mitchell)
        --》2M in bank

        Is DCL to Jesus madness? Or Mitchell to Mendy? Maybe Laporte as a safe bet... Too many options!

      8. Patio Kev
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Fulham doing well to hold off for the first 10 minutes at least. Just the 80 more minutes to go lads. Fulham - You have got this.

      9. Pedram
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        10 minutes has passed and Vardy hasn't scored yet, Vardy fail incoming.

      10. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Vardy blank and YC I guess

      11. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Likeliness of Cancelo starting vs Fulham?

        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          90%

      12. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        should have known vardy can't score against a 'LoW BlOck' - stupid captaincy decision from me deservedly punished

      13. Ibra
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Barnes -> Jota no-brainer? After that I would have:

        McCarthy
        Chilwell - Dias - Lamptey
        Salah - Bruno - Son - Grealish - Jota
        Werner - DCL

        4.0 - Balbuena - Brewster - Mitchell

      14. CheesyZoot
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Fulham will remember they are Fulham soon and crumble, right?

        1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Yes

          1. CheesyZoot
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Wouldn't mind a Fulham goal first to wipe the Justin cleanies and light a fire under Vardy though

            1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
              • 12 Years
              5 years, 6 months ago

              Neither would I

      15. Dragon Arcana
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Vardy fail

        1. JONALDINHO
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Looks like it

        2. The Polymath
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Oh for FF......

      16. It's Fergie Time
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Pen or nothing for Vardy

        1. OverTinker
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          its a penalty season

      17. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Where’s my Vardy pen?

      18. Pedram
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Heavy Rain

      19. Flair
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Ahh damnit RIP Vardy

      20. DannyDrinkVodka
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Vardy always scores when it's raining this hard

      21. Hect.OR 98th
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Got Vardy in for Maupay, so I'm already up on the deal!

      22. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Lookman needs to chill & he will become a better player.

      23. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Should of just captained Bruno

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Should've maybe.

      24. built_this_city
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        if a game was called off - would you get ur VC and subs?

        1. Nice to Finally Michu
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          No

      25. Flair
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Using a 3ATB against Fulham when the best offensive players sit on the bench, come on Rodgers lmao

        1. JBG
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Character

      26. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Still too late to say Vardy captain fail?

      27. Iceball
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Whats up with Sterling, probably just right to get KDB right away and captain. Nice haul coming up for KDB (and just "maybe" for Sterling)
        If uncertainty on Sterling then cant have him any more. What are owners doing?

      28. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Why is Mitrovic always on the bench, whats going on there?

      29. The Ilfordian
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        Seen much more about Cavani than Jimenez on this page today. I heard he’s stable but got a fractured skull and will have surgery. Hope he’ll be okay

        1. GOTHAM City F.C.
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Will keep for another game.

          1. GOTHAM City F.C.
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Reply fail to iceball

      30. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        hate these early evening games on a school night before the bedtime of children ... lowers the quality of discussion on here during the game with all the under 12 posters still awake 🙂

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 6 months ago

          I quite like them, checking a team sheet at work is rare

      31. Pacer.
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 6 months ago

        lol ref just adjudged there was no advantage before the player had the chance to do anything, because Fulham are so terrible

      32. MJF
          5 years, 6 months ago

          Grealish fail.

          1. DAZZ
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 6 months ago

            Eh