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16 August 2020 1251 comments
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Fulham have made a swift return to the Premier League, bouncing back to the top tier of English football after just one year away.

The Cottagers went up after defeating Brentford in the Championship play-off final at the beginning of August and join Leeds United and West Bromwich Albion as the three newly promoted sides in the top flight next season.

What can Fantasy managers expect from Parker and the Cottagers in 2020/21, then?

Our three-part series on Fulham will feature an in-depth examination of their defence and attack but we begin with a closer look at the man in the dugout.

To aid our analysis, we spoke to Fantasy Football Scout frequenter, Fulham fan and co-host of the excellent Always Cheating podcast, Brandon Kelley.

WHAT IS PARKER’S BACKGROUND?

Parker has plenty of top-flight experience from his playing days, with stints of various length at Charlton Athletic, Chelsea, Newcastle United, West Ham United, Tottenham Hotspur and Fulham.

The ex-England international called time on his on-the-field career at the age of 36 in 2017, subsequently returning to Spurs to coach their under-18 side.

Moving back to west London in 2018, Parker served as a first-team coach to both Slavisa Jokanovic and Claudio Ranieri in their spells in the Fulham hot seat before taking temporary charge himself when Ranieri was fired in February 2019.

Some improved displays and three successive wins in April weren’t enough to keep the Cottagers up but they were enough to convince owner Shahid Khan to name Parker permanent boss, with the retired midfielder signing a two-year deal.

His first full season as a manager was a successful one, with the west London side never out of the top half from the Championship equivalent of Gameweek 2 onwards.

The Cottagers indeed held a play-off place from late-November right the way through to the end of the season before sealing promotion at Wembley.

WHAT STYLE OF FOOTBALL DOES PARKER USE?

Parker’s preferred tactics, at least in terms of basic formation, are similar to those of Slaven Bilic.

A 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 were Fulham’s most-used set-ups in 2019/20, which were systems the West Bromwich Albion manager turned to in the Baggies’ promotion-winning campaign.

Brandon Kelley explains:

Parker frequently played a 4-2-3-1 last season, with Mitro as the lone striker and Harrison Reed and Tom Cairney as a midfield pivot. On occasion, Josh Onomah would push up to play off of Mitrovic for a 4-2-2-2.

You’ll see a fair amount of overlapping with the full-backs and wide-midfielders, but it has to be said that Fulham haven’t been a particularly fast side since the departure of Ryan Sessegnon. They will struggle to beat many Premier League clubs for pace.

For Parker, it’s all about one thing: possession.

The Cottagers were ball-hoggers extraordinaire last season, registering more passes and short passes than any other club in the English second tier.

Their passing success rate of 83.2% was the best in the Championship and was beaten by just the top four and Arsenal among Premier League sides last season.

Only Leeds averaged more possession than Fulham (58.3%) in the second division of English football last season.

From an FPL (and Sky) perspective, that’s a good thing when it comes to bonus points – although retaining the ball in the Premier League will be a much stiffer test.

Some cynics have suggested that Parker’s crab-like qualities as a player are now apparent in his Fulham team, with there being a lot of passing for passing’s sake and not much penetration at the end of their slow build-up play.

It seems an odd slur given that that they boast the league’s top goalscorer in Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m) but the criticism is not completely unfounded, with the Cottagers, despite being ranked first for passes, a lot further back when we assess other attacking metrics.


Rank v other Championship clubs
Passes1st
Goals scored7th
Shots5th
Shots in the box11th=

Despite the safety-first approach, they did concede on more occasions (48) than Leeds, West Brom and Brentford.

The Cottagers did beat all bar the champions of those teams for clean sheets (17), at least.

If there is one thing that Parker is unquestionably good at, it’s man-management.

The emotional scenes at the end of the win over Brentford were a testament to that, with play-off hero Joe Bryan saying of his head coach:

He’s very good at motivational talking. When he talks, everyone respects it – he’s been there and done it. It’s good to play for a manager you know is speaking from personal experience of being a player.

Always Cheating’s Brandon Kelley indeed told us:

Fulham suffered a number of key injuries throughout the season, perhaps most notably losing Mitrovic for their play-off run.

As a result, Parker has been forced to get more from his second-choice players, and Onomah’s impact at the end of Fulham’s play-off run is a true testament to Parker’s ability to adapt and motivate.

Parker will face a number of different challenges in his first full season in the Premier League, so I suspect he’ll be flexible throughout, especially given he’s too young in his managerial career to be stuck in his ways.

DOES PARKER LIKE A SETTLED SIDE OR WILL HE ROTATE?

Rotation: the scourge of the Fantasy manager.

The likes of Pep Guardiola and Graham Potter make life a nightmare for FPL bosses and team news writers alike and many of us long for a top flight full of Sean Dyches.

The attacking midfield and wide positions look particularly at risk for Fulham, with Anthony Knockaert (£5.5m), Bobby Decordova-Reid (£5.5m) and Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m) having made 28 substitute appearances between them.

Always Cheating co-host and Fulham fan Brandon Kelley told us:

Parker will happily rotate but Fulham’s squad won’t be especially deep, so I don’t expect we’ll see rotation among key players like Mitrovic or the entire defensive backline.

It was interesting to see Parker start Denis Odoi at right-back against Brentford in the playoff final, which not many supporters had anticipated, so that does speak to Parker’s desire to pick the right players for the right jobs in the right matches.

On the whole, wide attackers like Knockaert, Reid, and Cavaleiro will be most prone to rotation.

HOW DOES PARKER HANDLE THE PRESS?

A likeable character, Parker gives off the air of an honest sort in his post and pre-match interviews.

Those are the types of managers we Fantasy managers love, of course, especially when it comes to team news.

Always Cheating’s Brandon Kelley echoed those sentiments, although did cite a cautionary tale from the play-offs:

The press adores Scott Parker for many reasons: he’s handsome, he’s well-dressed, he’s humble, he’s English, and he’s generally pretty open and honest at pressers.

Just watch this interview given after the 2-1 Brentford win for a sense of how utterly wholesome he can be.

I believe Parker to be fairly forthcoming. But, you could point to his handling of the press with Mitrovic’s injury during the EFL play-offs as an example of him being less so. I believe that was a special circumstance, though, and don’t expect to see much of that this coming season.

WHERE MIGHT PARKER STRENGTHEN IN THE SUMMER AND WHICH PLAYERS ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING THEIR PLACE?

Fulham likely won’t make the same mistakes they did two years ago when they spent big on overpriced players ahead of their top-flight return.

Some level of investment will be needed, however, with a right-back and some attacking midfielders potentially on Parker’s shopping list according to our Fulham correspondent, Brandon Kelley:

Fulham desperately need a right-back as Cyrus Christie won’t be able to handle that position in the top flight. Wild rumours had linked 36-year-old Branislav Ivanovic to Fulham, perhaps looking for some experience to settle the backline (and join Mitrovic in some Serbian hijinks, no doubt), but after the disastrous signing of Andre Schurrle in 2018, I really hope Fulham will think twice before buying another Chelsea retiree.

Harrison Reed really impressed as a defensive midfielder on loan from Southampton. With Reed in front of the defence, Fulham appeared much more stable and found it easier to link with their attacking players. If that chemistry with Reed was as evident to Scott Parker as it was to every Fulham supporter, then the club will be desperate to buy him permanently off of his parent club.

In the attack, Fulham could use a bit more Premier League experience just behind Mitrovic. Some rumours have linked Ryan Fraser to the club, and I think it’s correct that Parker will be looking for some speed that will be able to break defensive lines and feed balls into the centre-forward.

Bobby Reid, Anthony Knockaert and Ivan Cavaleiro are all players who I would expect to sit on the bench if the right signings are made. Lesser-known players like Onomah and Kebano have at least proven they can adapt to Scott Parker’s tactics and play key roles in key moments, so they may stand a better chance of featuring throughout the coming season.

And if you’re expecting more spot-kick drama with Aboubaker Kamara, don’t hold your breath – he will become surplus to requirements.


Our huge thanks again go to Brandon for his time and insight. Keep your eyes peeled for two more Fulham articles in The Promoted series, which will be landing soon.

Best players by position:

  1. Gringo Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Mitro's on fire

    1. Rock n Grohl
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Your 4.5's are terrified

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Haha nice

  2. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    If you had to pick just 1 of the 4.5m defenders, who would it be? And why?

    (Doherty owner)

    1. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ayling. Nailed, goals, assists and clean sheets.

      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Better than Dallas and Vinagre?

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Dallas isn't completely nailed as he's originally a winger and Bielsa is looking for a new LB.
          Vinagre looks nailed while jonny is out but his attacking stats aren't exciting

    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ayling if Casilla isn't starting

      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Better than Dallas and Vinagre?

      2. Kante Touch This
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        What difference does Casilla make in that situation? Do they play differently with him in goal?

    3. Predator
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Vinagre, plays for a far better side

    4. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Vinagre easy. Wolves are a very good side with a very goof defence and he could also get attacking returns

    5. 900-Years
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Its a good option to play with Ayling and Dallas ???

    6. Azathoth
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Taylor,hoping that Burnley will be as good (cs talking) as last season.

    7. Klaren
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Vinagre short term and C. Taylor long term are by far the best options in my opinion.

      Yes Leeds full backs are attacking but don’t expect Leeds to do well enough for them to keep CS anywhere near the level of Wolves or Burnley and attacking output likely to be significantly lower compared to Championship.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        C Taylor has attacking threat?

        1. Klaren
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          He doesn’t but he plays in a team which is among the top for CS kept in most seasons. The same can’t be said about rest of the 4.5s.

          I didn’t mention anything about Taylor having attacking threat in my post above. What I said is while on paper Leeds full backs have better attacking threat, those are based on Championship stats so Taylor and Vinagre are better options regardless.

  3. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Will Foden be a regular starter or is it a case of wait and see?

    1. Young Lingard
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ahh I think it’s about getting him at the right time
      I think he could frustrate if you own him and he’s getting unscored cameos

    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      sure to be rotated like most of the team. KDB and £ the two most nailed but they will get random benchings also

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I see what u did there 😛

  4. beric
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Boy oh boy i can't wait to see those fixtures

  5. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Joshua Bull posted a RMT yet? Asking for a friend....

    1. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure. Peter Ian Staker put one up on the last article though.

      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Is he the uncle of Andrew & Peter Ness?

    2. SackWenger
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Wait for the Bulgarian - he’s the true champion

  6. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    How many of Rashford's goals last season came from the penalty spot?

    1. Greek Freak
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Scored 6, missed 2.

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks!

  7. Young Lingard
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Missed a lot tbh

    1. Greek Freak
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      If that's a reply about Rashford's penalties, he's only missed 2 in his entire career!

      1. altan8797
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        maybe he meant missed as in he didn't took them after bruno arrived:)

      2. Young Lingard
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Ahh yes sorry it’s a reply
        Or a failed one
        I sent before I meant to and then got signed out.
        I meant that although he scored a fair few you have to factor his points total For missing. Therefore if he’s not on them this season he’s still a good asset imo
        Certainly in my plans
        But maybe after a few weeks as united will look shattered after they win europa
        (Easier run than the bucks

        1. Klaren
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Only lost 4 points from the 2 missed pens and maybe a few bps which is the same as 1 goal from pens.

          So he still has 5 pen goals last season on a net basis which would equate to something between 25-35 points.

        2. Klaren
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          But yes, he is still a good asset regardless.

  8. Dacra
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    First draft:

    Ryan (Button)
    TAA - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5
    Salah/Mane - Kdb/Sterling - Son - Auba (4.5)
    Mitro - Wood (4.5)

  9. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Defence has the highest value this season.

    Wish we could play 6 or 7 at the back

    1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      how dull

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Doherty, TAA and Robbo are less dull than many defensive mids tbh. Not forgetting Alonso who wasn't dull either 😉

  10. @FPL_Chess
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Are you thinking of dispensing with TAA?

      Baldock, Egan, and Dunk started last season on 4.5m and scored 142, 133, and 128 respectively. Predicting the correct three defenders is a bit tricky though. Don’t try this at home.

      Have a great season everyone.

      FPL Chess mini-league has 700-800 players. Here's your invitation:~ https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/auto-join/k3wed9

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        No chance. If we had a midfielder scoring 200+ points a season for 7.5m, everyone would own.

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Seems to be quite a few decent cheap defenders also to facilitate.

        2. @FPL_Chess
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Agreed. So why isn't everyone jumping on Robertson as well?

        3. LangerznMash
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Yes I certainly am.
          I've counted half a dozen £4.5m defenders that could score 120+ points.

          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Care to share? I gathering some data for charity.....

          2. @FPL_Chess
              5 years, 3 months ago

              It does appear to be a good year for 4.5m defenders. For an extra 3m though you can turn one into a 200+ point machine.

            • Botman and Robben
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              Name those half a dozen please.

          3. sully29
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            TAA will be extremely highly owned. He is also a defender who is capable of a 24 point haul. There's not a chance he won't be in my team.

            FPL is supposed to be fun. Watching Liverpool play when you don't own TAA is the opposite of fun.

            1. JabariParkersEyelid
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              This.

            2. @FPL_Chess
                5 years, 3 months ago

                tis true. We'd be watching it from behind the sofa. 🙂

            3. Young Lingard
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              He’s essentially an underpriced mid
              He was what 30 pts better than every defender last year
              And his teams defence underperformed in terms of CS’

              I think as long as he’s on set pieces and injury free
              Not owning him will be a tough watch
              Although VVD could light the season up with a goal return and that 1m saved would look lovely

              1. @FPL_Chess
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  ...that's not the daftest idea I've ever heard.

              2. LangerznMash
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Also with TAA you have to play him every match no matter what, meaning away to top 8 clubs.
                If you have loads of 4.5m defs then you can bench them for the bad fixtures and bring them in for the easy ones where clean sheets and attach returns more likely.

                Also it's 3.0m out of your midfield. Which means downgrading someone like Son for a 6.0m

                1. Baps Hunter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  There are no difficult top 8 clubs vs Liverpool.

                2. Baps Hunter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Which pair will score more?

                  1. LangerznMash
                    • 9 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    I'd confidently say Son and the 4.5m def with best fixture wins against TAA (away to top 8 club) and any 6.0m mid.

                    1. mixology
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Hmm I like these comparisons..TAA + Doc is also 13.5 million. Best use of that amount imo

                    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                      • 15 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Just as long as TAA doesn't repeat what he did in these top 8 fixtures this season for example:

                      Home to Arsenal (assist)
                      Away to Chelsea (goal)
                      Away to Leciester (goal + 2 assists + cleansheet)
                      Home to Wolves (Cleansheet)
                      Home to Man Utd (assist + Cleansheet)
                      Away to Wolves (assist)
                      Home to Chelsea (goal + assist)

                      And that's excluding Baps 🙂

                      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 15 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        3 goals, 6 assists, 3 cleansheets in 14 games vs. top 8 opposition!

                      2. LangerznMash
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        Great reply with stats 🙂
                        So the 20(ish) games that he didn't keep clean sheet or get an attack return where either at home or against 'lesser' teams? How unexpected.

                        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                          • 15 Years
                          5 years, 3 months ago

                          This much should be clear - unless you have a crystal ball - you really are playing with fire going without TAA 🙂

                        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                          • 15 Years
                          5 years, 3 months ago

                          In only 14 games this season (not 20-ish!) has TAA has failed to deliver a return (Goal, Assist or Cleansheet)

                          5 of those 14 came after they had Liverpool had won the league...
                          7 of those 14 came while Allison was out injured...

                          It will be interesting to see how he does this year for sure 😉

                    3. FPL Blow-In
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      I would say TAA and the highest scoring 6m mid would outscore Son and the highest scoring 4.5def over the season

                      1. LangerznMash
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        It wouldn't just be the highest scoring 4.5 def though as you would have rotation pairings.
                        So it would be Son + best 4.5 def rotation pairing vs TAA + best 6.0 mid.
                        The 6.0 mids look rather naff. Probably Trossard best option.

                3. @FPL_Chess
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Eek! The mids are that strong this year that Son doesn't get a look-in on my team. I get your point though.

              3. WaterCarrier
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                What’s the better midfield/attack combo?
                A: Greenwood, Salah, Auba and KDB.
                Antonio, Mitro and Bamford.

                B: Foden, Fernandes, Auba, KDB.
                Werner and Mitro.

                C: Greenwood, Rashford, Auba, KDB. Werner and Mitro.

                Basically. Bruno vs Greenwood + Rashford. And Salah vs. Werner.

                1. LangerznMash
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  A has 7 players. B + C only 6?

                  1. WaterCarrier
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Different formations. 3-4-3 vs 4-4-2

              4. Lukakus Unit
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Considering going 4-3-3 with low-priced mids as my backups.

                Pope - Button
                TAA - VvD - Robertson - Doherty - 4.0
                de Bruyne - Grealish - McNeil - 4.5 - 4.5
                Martial - Jimenez - Ings

                Thoughts?

                1. Jafooli
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  That midfield 😮

                  1. Lukakus Unit
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    The thinking is that TAA - Robertson - Doherty outscore most mids in their price range.

                2. Wild Card this!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Yikesss...that midfield needs some work...wouldn’t go without Salah/Mane...

                3. JabariParkersEyelid
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  You know that midfielders are the highest scorers in the game right.

                4. Young Lingard
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Think your plan could work wonders if you could switch the ideology to cheap forwards
                  Find a 6m or under asset
                  But as mentioned the midfielders are so difficult to get in without a strong template

                5. enourouz
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Thinking the same thing. 4 3 3 is looking like the formation this year.

                  Maybe drop martial for Antonio and that will free up some funds to improve the mids.

              5. RoysCallerAnne
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                The chasm between Pep and Klopp in CL knockouts grew even wider last night.
                What on earth was Pep thinking. Gripped by fear of a lesser side. So much so that he changed tactics, enforced unwanted conservatism on his players, shackled them, benched briliant players and over-thought the seemingly straight forward task of beating a mid table French league team.
                I think he's so far up his own arse that he believes he can make one-off radical tactical changes for one match and it will work because it's worked in his head lying in bed the previous night. It's different on the pitch. Players are humans not tactical pawns in the Peps mad head.

                Klopp plays to his own teams strengths every single time. Its quite simple when you write it down like that.

                Won't make any difference to FPL, City will still blow teams away most weeks but still worth talking about, even just to lol at Pep.

                1. Greek Freak
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Agreed. Posted this yesterday - this is a French journalist's analysis, which says a lot of the same things:

                  On whether Pep Guardiola overthinks in the Champions League:

                  "Massively. Sometimes it works, like against Real Madrid in Spain. Great, that works. But too many times it hasn't worked.

                  It didn't work away against Spurs last season, it didn't work against Monaco three years ago because he messed up the second leg.

                  Why don't you play your normal team in a normal formation tonight against a team that is far weaker than you? Why do you need to adapt your formation to the opposition?

                  It just doesn't work like this. He has to take the blame. He has to take responsibility. It has happened too many times.

                  He has to step up and say sorry, I keep trying to come with ideas and it's just not working. If i was a City fan tonight I'd be really cross with what Pep Guardiola has done. He messed it up big time."

                2. Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Sir Alex and Mourinho tended to set up differently in cup games and it worked well for them. Sir Alex used to make some bizarre decisions at times playing players out of position, but it always seemed to work perfectly...

                  It's easy to take one successful UCL team, like Liverpool 18/19, and compare it to a single match, but I think there have been enough examples of success using different methods to say there's no clear winner yet.

                  I mean if Sterling scored the tap in, they would have been level. In a one-off game, it can be fine margins.

                  Let's not forget Liverpool and Klopp were knocked out earlier in the competition with their methods.

                  1. Dickie1898
                    • 11 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Sorry, but ref your last point there. Liverpool under Klopp, champions of Europe 2019, runners-up to Real Madrid in 2018 were knocked out this year by elite European opposition in Atletico Madrid. Not Lyon, Spurs or Monaco.

                    There were no fine margins last night, they conceded three poor goals and missed a couple of decent chances. First 35 mins they were terrible in an unfamiliar system and had to chase the game.

                    This is a recurring theme with Pep, he over-thinks these big UCL games tactically and is beaten by seemingly weaker opposition. Klopp might change personnel in his midfield 3 to suit a particular opponent, but he won't completely change the system / shape against 'weaker' opposition in these cup ties like Pep does.

                    1. RoysCallerAnne
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 15 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      I'd upvote this reply twice if I could.
                      On what planet was I comparing one match from Pep Vs one successful CL winning team. That Gigs Boson reply is truly bizarre if not entirely surprising given his Man Utd and Alex bias. "It always seemed to work perfectly" two European Cups in 26 years ... okaaaay then.

                      Pep has failed multiple times Vs on paper inferior teams in knock out phases.
                      Klopp is very much the opposite. I don't have the stats but I'm sure they're easy to find.

                      1. Piggs Boson
                        • 14 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        Probably a stupid reply yeah. I do that a lot.

                        But I'm just trying to put a drop of doubt in this ocean of certainty. I'm not arguing one way or another. I just find it weird that so many people know so much more than top managers.

                        Is it possible Pep understands football more than we do? I'd say there's a chance...

                        1. RoysCallerAnne
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 15 Years
                          5 years, 3 months ago

                          Of course Pep is a very good manager and coach.
                          Of course he knows more than you or me.
                          Of course armchair managers are allowed give their opinions. That's what makes following football so good.

                          He is falling short in the CL on an alarmingly regular basis. If that continues he can't be placed amongst the all time greats.

                          1. Piggs Boson
                            • 14 Years
                            5 years, 3 months ago

                            Yeah, I agree, he's nowhere near the pantheon of all time greats.

                            The players are the limitation on what a manager can achieve. (A manager adds up to just 15% according to Soccernomics) The current City team is probably short in some areas, Kompany, Sane not replaced, Aguero, Silva, Fernandinho ageing... but he should have beat Lyon at least. Wasn't good enough performance, I agree.

              6. Flippo_
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Any ideas or rumours when the fixtures will be released?

                1. Davido989
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  PL have said no later than Fri 21st August. So this week.

              7. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                How does this look for a first draft (fixtures permitting)?

                Ryan
                TAA Ayling Vinagre
                Auba KDB ASM Greenwood
                Kane Werner

                Nyland Bamford Feeguson Romeu

                1. LangerznMash
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Different starting with only 10 players.

              8. Emiliano Sala
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Willian 8.0 added to the game

                1. Drexl Spivey
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Okay. That's interesting.

                2. Bubz
                  • 12 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Meh. Greenwood at 7.5 a far better option at that bracket. Without pens Willian isnt that appealing

                3. JabariParkersEyelid
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  I'm not sure why FPL consistently overprice Arsenal assets but they do & it makes them extremely unappealing. Willian at 8 but Greenwood 7.5 is wild.

                4. Wild Card this!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Once fit, I expect Pulisic to be much better value for only .5 more.
                  I believe Pulisic price is realistic according to his results during last season but expecting great results from him this season...

                5. Rock n Grohl
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Where's he going to slot in though? Pepe dropped? Or in a CAM?

                6. seewhyaxe
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  maybe if we constantly feedback to them, they will reduce the price.. like the opposite of Pulisic?

              9. Rock n Grohl
                • 15 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                If Chelsea do sign Havertz, that midfield is going to be even more of a headache. Shame, as I fully expected Mount to build on last season.

              10. Rasping Drive
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                A: Robertson Pulisic Mitrovic
                B: VVD Foden Werner

                Which option tickles your fancy?

                1. Bobby Digital
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  B

                  1. Rasping Drive
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Thanks BD - you think Werner starts the season running, then? I actually am siding towards A at the moment (all nailed with PL experience, not sure what kind of gametime Foden will get)

                    1. Bobby Digital
                      • 8 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Pulisic is fragile... Like the balance of B.

                2. Wild Card this!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  2:1 for A.
                  Robo and Puli will outscore VVD and Foden...expecting Werner to outscore Mitro of course...

                  1. Rasping Drive
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Thanks WCT

              11. Steevo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Ryan
                TAA | Robertson | VVD | Vinagre
                KDB | Sterling | Auba | Greenwood | Soucek
                Bamford

                Button | Douglas | Wickham | Vassilev

                1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  sorry but that forward line is stuff of nightmares

                2. FPL Pillars
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Bamford 😆

                3. SADIO SANÉ
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Doherty & Mitro instead?

                4. Baps Hunter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  4-4-0 is not optimal formation.

                5. badgerboy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  If Liverpool concede a couple in the opening game and a couple of the mid price towards start well your knee will be jerking like a salmon jumping a waterfall.

              12. reason17
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Hi, does anybody know why madisson missed the last 6 premier league games of the season?

                1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  he was injured

              13. Bubz
                • 12 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                So if Man Utd lose tonight, is there the chance that both Utd and City do start GW1 with everyone else?

                1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  a chance yes, could play midweek

              14. davies
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Anyone managed to fit in all Salah/Auba/KDB/TAA yet?

                1. BNMC
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Yes, with 2 5m mids and a 6.5 forward. I hate it.

                2. FPL Pillars
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  I have a draft with them all in, looks actually half decent

                3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  It's possible if you make (big) sacrifices elsewhere. Not sure if it's worth it, I like a balanced team

                4. dunas_dog
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Ryan Button
                  TAA 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5
                  Salah KDB Aubameyang ASM Soucek
                  Werner Mitrovic 4.5

                5. altan8797
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  ryan button
                  taa 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.0
                  auba salah kdb ASM stephens
                  mitro werner bamford

                6. A Fat Spanish Waiter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  It’s tricky, but if you move Auba to Bruno its pretty simple.

                  You could do something like this:

                  Ryan (button)
                  TAA Vinagre Dallas (Ferguson, Branthwaite)
                  Salah, Auba, KDB, Greenwood, Soucek
                  Jimmy, Mitrovic (Davis)

                  3-5-2

                7. Galza
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  I’ve got an option to switch a couple of players in my squad.

                  It basically comes down to.

                  Son and Werner, or

                  Salah and Antonio...

                8. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Leno 4m

                  TAA Ayling Vinagre Taylor 4m

                  Salah Auba KDB Armstrong/ASM Soucek

                  Werner Mitrovic 4.5m

                9. ratchet
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Yes
                  Ryan
                  TAA, Pieters, Vinagre
                  Salah, KDB, Auba. Hernandez
                  Ings, mitro, Barnes

                10. Brosstan
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  It looks shite because you forego all the underpriced United mids

              15. Bobby Digital
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                ASM or Soucek?

                1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  ASM plays for a Steve Bruce Newcastle side, no matter how creative he is I just don't see the appeal. Soucek is decent but people putting him as a 4th midfielder prepare to be disappointed is my opinion. He was 4.5m last season, a 0.5 less price and I didn't see him in anybodies team.

                  Decent enabler but will likely be bench for me

                  1. Bobby Digital
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Cheers

                    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                      • 15 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      to answer the question sorry, I'd personally go with soucek for now and then watch ASM and see how Newcastle set out. Also it will be heavily dependant on fixtures. You "may" want to take a punt on ASM if the fixtures are incredible

                  2. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    He was actually 5.0m last season as well.

                  3. Klaren
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    There were a lot of budget options at the end of the season (Foden, Greenwood, etc), that’s why no one had him.

              16. reason17
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Is anyone else thinking of VVD, TAA and Robertson?

                It is very liverpool heavy, but if they were midfielders, i don't think too many would complain given their consistent point hauls.

                1. Bobby Digital
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Going VVD TAA and Salah

                  1. Baps Hunter
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Is VvD worth .5 million extra compared to Doherty? Imho not.

                    1. Bobby Digital
                      • 8 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Covering Doc with Vinagre

                      1. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        People have covered TAA and Robbo with Gomez also.

                2. Bubz
                  • 12 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Not with the way their defence looked at the end of the season

                  1. Baps Hunter
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Or at the start last season. Yet, it might work this time.

                3. Rasping Drive
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  If they start this season like they started last, you will be getting rid of 2 of them as fast as you can say "Where are my cleansheets?"

                  1. BNMC
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    They started last season without Alisson.

                4. rozzo
                  • 12 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Yes look below

              17. dunas_dog
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Subject to fixtures ( and outcome of game tonight) have put this draft together with Greenwood and Martial. No Bruno. Would you get Bruno and 6 m striker ( Mitrovic ) over Greenwood and Martial?

                McCarthy
                TAA Saliba Vinagre
                Salah KDB Greenwood* Foden Soucek
                Werner Martial*

                Ryan Taylor Dallas/Ayling Davis

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    I'd prefer greenwood and martial but then you could start thinking rashford and another striker like Ings if the cash allows

                2. A Fat Spanish Waiter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 3 months ago

                  Stupid question of the day here: with City getting bounced from the CL yesterday does that mean they will not have a blank to start the season? Or will they still have 1 blank week?

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Not 100% certain yet but I think someone said they could potentially play gw1 still on the Monday

                  2. Uns95
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    Initial draft - fixture dependent and subject to change if City/ United don't play. Toying between Auba or KDB/Sterling

                    McCarthy
                    TAA Robertson Pieters Dallas
                    Fernandes Salah Aubamayang Saint maxim
                    Martial Mitrovic

                    Nyland Stephens Ferguson Wickham

                  3. Lignja
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 3 months ago

                    First draft, hows looking?

                    Casilla
                    Taa, Vinagre, Ayling
                    Salah, Kdb ,Auba, Greenwood, Foden
                    Mitrovic, Antonio

                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        Not a fan of double Leeds at the back, and mitro Antonio is too lightweight for me upfront but mid is great

                    2. reason17
                      • 10 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Feels like a lot of people are hedging their bets on Ake starting regularly, I can't be the only one to think he might not be a regular, right?

                      1. Rasping Drive
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        Cover for Laporte, I reckon

                    3. rozzo
                      • 12 Years
                      5 years, 3 months ago

                      Every draft I have done so far has included TAA, Robertson and VVD

                      Its ridiculous that we have 6.5m to 7.5m defenders scoring 200 points.

                      VVD will score similar to Ings and Jimenez and I would bet comfortably outscore the 6.5m strikers.

                      I don't plan on captaining my strikers so set and forget the Liverpool trio will surely net me more points at a cheaper base point?

                      Anybody else going for this?

                      4.5 4.0
                      TAA Robertson VVD Vinagre 4.0
                      KDB Fernandes Greenwood Foden 4.5
                      Ings Jimenez 4.5

                      As you can see there are no weak points there, Greenwood and Foden rotation withstanding. You can even afford a decent forward line.

                      Trying to fit in 3 or 4 heavy hitters. You only need two. You can only captain one at a time.

                      I feel that in isolotion a trio of Robertson, Greenwood and Jimenez will score more points than say Ayling, Salah and Antonio.

                      Anybody else going for this or something similar? I guess it requires patience.

                      1. Camzy
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 15 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        I don't like it because I find there are a lot of great value 4.5m defenders this year.

                        1. rozzo
                          • 12 Years
                          5 years, 3 months ago

                          True, but will they be hitting 200 points?

                          150 points if you're lucky. Unless you transfer them in at the right time.

                          So your hoping that you nail your 4.5 defenders and your captain choice more often than not which is surely more difficult?

                      2. Ze_Austin
                        • 7 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        Ryan Nyland
                        TAA Robbo Doc Vinagre Mitchell
                        (B)runo KDB Ziyech Greenwood Foden
                        Ings Davis Wickham

                        1M ITB for any early season upgrades and injuries/form

                        Changes will be made if transfer window activities and preseason discoveries affect Nyland (Button), Vinagre (Aurier or 4.5), Mitchell (Taylor) or Greenwood. Ziyech bumped up to Pulisic when fit. Placeholders come in for those who might miss GW1 due to the 30-day rule. Bruno permacap, but give KDB/TAA when glaringly obvious

                        "Only one striker?!" see this: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2020/08/15/how-will-new-positions-at-man-united-affect-their-fpl-assets-in-2020-21/?hc_page=13&hc_sort_by=comment_date#hc_comment_22252128

                        1. LangerznMash
                          • 9 Years
                          5 years, 3 months ago

                          Davis and Wickham might not be in the Prem this season.

                          1. LangerznMash
                            • 9 Years
                            5 years, 3 months ago

                            I've just read your link and see why this wouldn't bother you lol

                            1. Ze_Austin
                              • 7 Years
                              5 years, 3 months ago

                              Thanks 🙂

                      3. Brosstan
                        • 11 Years
                        5 years, 3 months ago

                        You'll be behind the sofa every pool game. One goal ruins your gw, and you don't have any attackers either, nightmare watching them without salah/mane. I'm saying this as someone with double LIV def