Scout Notes

Adams and Ings star in big Southampton win as £4.0m defender plot thickens

Fantasy Premier League managers got a first look at Southampton assets in the latest round of pre-season friendlies.

With the Saints favourable fixtures at the start of 2020/21, there is great interest in options at both ends of the field – so we have run the rule over Saturday’s big win over Swansea.

Elsewhere, the £4.0m defender hunt continues to rumble on in rather uninspiring form and the key men at Leicester are becoming more clear.

SOUTHAMPTON 7-1 SWANSEA

  • Goals: Che Adams (£6.0m), Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), Danny Ings x2 (£8.5m), James Ward-Prowse x2 (£6.0m), Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m)
  • Assists: Bertrand x2, Adams, Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m), Redmond x2, Ings.

Danny Ings (£8.5m) and his Southampton colleagues showed they mean business in 2020/21 as they scored seven times in a pre-season win over Swansea on Saturday.

Played across four 30-minute quarters, the first two of these sessions was staffed with what looked much more like the preferred first-choice XI ahead of Gameweek 1, and they were responsible for all the goals during the first hour of a two-hour meeting. This line-up featured Ings and Che Adams (£6.0m) in the front-two of a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the latter’s inclusion in 2020/21.

While we are often urged to take friendly results such as this with a pinch of salt, to find the net so often against Championship opposition should not necessarily be scoffed at.

With some Fantasy managers wondering whether or not Ings can match the value he offered last season, in light of his price hike, it was encouraging to see so many Southampton attackers getting in on the action against the Swans.

Comparisons between the former Burnley forward and Adams have already been made this summer, especially with the latter outscoring him in the last three Gameweeks of 2019/20.

Interestingly, the cheaper of the two men was as heavily involved on Saturday compared to any other Saint. It took Adams just six minutes to get on the scoresheet at St Mary’s converting a Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m) cross from close range.

He went close to netting a second a few minutes later, crashing a volley just wide of the post after a nice one-two with Ings.

Adams then helped Southampton into a two-goal lead as his efforts to find some space in the box resulted in the ball reaching Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), who made no mistake with his powerful effort.

Despite Adams’ contributions, Ings still left the big win with more pre-season attacking returns than his striking partner, combining an assist with two goals, one from the spot.

However, the fact that he took the penalty after Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m) was felled in the box is not necessarily as much of an advantage over Adams as it might seem on first look.

That’s because later in the same match, James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m) took a penalty of his own following a foul on Redmond. It is, of course, early days but, while Ings may take more spot-kicks than Adams this season, Ward-Prowse’s role in the pecking order may shrink the gap.

As Fantasy managers consider how best to invest in the Southampton defence this season, this 7-1 win gave an early indication of what could be on offer in the full-back areas.

Can Adams deliver on Project Restart promise and match Ings' for FPL value?

While Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.5m) had a relatively quiet afternoon, the £0.5m more expensive asset in Bertrand was heavily involved in what Southampton were doing going forward.

As we always say with these pre-season matches, it is early days and the opposition was obviously not Premier League level, but it is worth making ourselves aware of any particular disparity between two players.

Contributing an assist and two goals against Swansea, his runs on the overlap beyond Armstrong seemed to restrict the Scottish international’s involvement too, also worth knowing for anyone shopping in the £5.5m midfielder bracket.

By contrast, with Walker-Peters sitting a little deeper, it allowed right midfielder Redmond to score and assist in open play, as well as earning a penalty.

Jack Stephens (£5.0m) and Jan Bednarek (£4.5m) were the centre-backs in Ralph Hasenhüttl’s first team of the afternoon, with Jannik Vestergaard (£4.5m) and Christoph Klarer used in the final two quarters. However, the absence of new signing Mohammed Salisu (£4.5m) from the matchday squad makes it hard to know what chances he has of starting in Gameweek 1, or some insight into who might make way for the highly-rated centre-back.

First two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): McCarthy; Bertrand, J Stephens, Bednarek, Walker-Peters; Armstrong, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Redmond; Ings, Adams.

Second two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): Forster; Vokins, Klarer, Vestergaard, Valery; Djenepo, Smallbone, Slattery (Jankewitz 90′), Boufal; Obafemi, S Long.

CRYSTAL PALACE 3-0 CHARLTON

  • Goals: Jordan Ayew x2 (£6.0m), Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Zaha, Andros Townsend (£6.0m), Jeffrey Schlupp (£5.5m)

There were more pre-season minutes for Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m) as Crystal Palace waltzed to a 3-0 win over Charlton Athletic.

The left-back played 64 minutes, bringing his total time played during the summer to 134 minutes over two matches. That’s the longest anyone has spent on the left-side of defence for Palace thus far, but is it enough to guarantee a Gameweek 1 start? Not quite yet.

Mitchell was first called into action at left-back in the 2-1 win over Oxford United, emerging as a 20th-minute substitute for the injured James McCarthy (£4.5m). With Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) still on the sidelines, the versatile Jairo Riedewald (£4.5m) was the man who initially started at left-back but moved into central midfield when Mitchell took to the pitch.

With Luka Milivojevic (£6.0m) still not involved in pre-season games and Cheikhou Kouyaté (£5.0m) filling in for the injured Gary Cahill (£4.5m), James Tomkins (£4.5m) and Mamadou Sakho (£4.5m), Roy Hodgson is quite short-staffed in central midfield right now.

It means that anyone returning from injury at centre-back could push Kouyaté back into midfield, while Milivojevic returning to the fold would also boost options there too and reduce the chances of Riedewald being used there.

The knock-on effect of such a chain of events could be that Riedewald moves back into defence and pushes Mitchell back out of the team. Fantasy managers will have to keep an eye out for this in Palace’s last two friendlies of the summer, against Millwall and Brondby IF.

As the hunt for form players in cheaper brackets goes on, Jordan Ayew (£6.0m) threw his name in the hat on Saturday afternoon, with two quickfire goals against Charlton, and a goalpost away from a hat-trick.

Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) also impressed deployed out-of-position. The FPL midfielder has now played over a game and a half up-front in a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the new campaign. Started in midfield against Oxford, Zaha was moved forward in the second half and subsequently found the net, while his goal and assist against Charlton came from a 90-minute stint as a striker.

Andros Townsend (£6.0m) has been a consistent presence on the flanks of midfield during pre-season for Crystal Palace so far. While Zaha has been involved the most (180 minutes), Townsend’s 159 minutes across two matches is the second-most of any Eagle this summer. Scoring in the first friendly and assist in the second, the former Spurs man went close to finding the net against Charlton too with a spectacular overhead kick.

Fantasy managers also got a chance to have a first look at new signing Eberechi Eze (£6.0m) in a Crystal Palace shirt, who was deployed on the left-hand side of midfield, where he registered most of his goals and assists in the Championship last season.

By all accounts, the former QPR man was impressive, linking up well with Zaha and Townsend in particular, adding some much-needed pace and guile into the Eagles’ attack.

Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) has still not been involved in pre-season for Palace, but Hodgson is yet to show any specific favour for his other goalkeeper options. Stephen Henderson and Wayne Hennessey (£4.5m) have both played 90 minutes each in the Spaniard’s absence so far.

Crystal Palace XI (4-4-2): Hennessey; Mitchell (Kelly 64′), Dann (Inniss 78′), Kouyaté (Woods 78′), J Ward (Kirby 64′); Eze (Schlupp 46′), McArthur (M Boateng 78′), Riedewald (Jach 78′), Townsend (Pierrick 78′); Zaha, Ayew (Gordon 83′).

WEST HAM 2-1 BRENTFORD

  • Goals: Andriy Yarmolenko (£6.0m), Tomas Soucek (£5.0m).
  • Assists: Pablo Fornals (£6.5m), Michail Antonio (£6.5m).

David Moyes appears to be readying Sebastien Haller (£6.5m) for a return to centre-forward duties at West Ham this season.

After scoring a hat-trick in a 90-minute outing against Ipswich last time out, the Frenchman started in the place of Michail Antonio (£6.5m) on Saturday.

However, Project Restart’s form man will not go away quietly. He came on for Haller at half-time, providing the assist for the Hammers’ winning goal.

However, anyone still interested in Antonio may want to keep their ears to the ground for a fitness update in the coming days. He lasted just 29 minutes against Brentford, forced off with a bang to the hip.

Also of note from a Fantasy perspective was another pre-season goal for Tomas Soucek (£5.0m). Interest in the budget midfielder tanked upon the release of West Ham’s fixtures but he now has two goals in as many friendly appearances ahead of a Gameweek 1 meeting with Newcastle, who typically struggle to defend against aerial threats. You can read more about Soucek here.

The hunt for a £4.0m defender continues to wind on without too much joy for Fantasy managers as Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) returned to the West Ham side on Saturday.

His start at right-back meant Ben Johnson (£4.0m) was treated to just 32 minutes against Brentford. The cheaper of the two options has more pre-season minutes thus far, but there are still two more friendlies for West Ham to play. Keeping an eye on how often Fredericks is involved at Johnson’s expense (or vice versa) is an essential task for Fantasy managers ahead of Gameweek 1.

West Ham United XI (4-2-3-1): Fabianski; Cresswell (Masuaku 46′), Ogbonna, Balbuena, Fredericks (B Johnson 58′); Noble (Cullen 46′), Wilshere (Soucek 46′); Yarmolenko (Anderson 46′), Fornals (Lanzini 46′), Diangana (Bowen 46′); Haller (Antonio 46′ | Coventry 74′).

LEICESTER 0-0 SHEFF WEDS

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None

James Justin (£4.5m) already appears to be the most cost-efficient, and safest route into Leicester’s defence ahead of the new season.

After two of their three friendly matches, the versatile full-back has played more minutes than any other Fox (150).

Capable of playing on the left or right-hand side of defence, the departure of Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) combined with Ricardo Pereira‘s (£6.0m) continued absence and Christian Fuchs‘ (£4.5m) injury all mean Justin is very likely to feature from the beginning when Leicester visit West Bromwich Albion in Gameweek 1.

Luke Thomas (£4.5m) remains an option at left-back, registering his first game-time of pre-season in the 0-0 draw with Sheffield Wednesday, although feels less assured of a start when at the Hawthorns next month.

It will be interesting to see who Brendan Rodgers will pair with Çaglar Söyüncü (£5.5m) at centre-back in the event that his defensive crisis does not ease by September 13.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) will miss the first three matches of 2020/21 through suspension while Wes Morgan (£4.5m) was added to the injury list against Sheffield Wednesday, withdrawn with a tight hamstring.

Based on Leicester’s two pre-season matches so far, Filip Benković (£4.5m) and Darnell Johnson look the two-most likely to deputise for Evans and Morgan, having played 73 and 61 minutes each so far.

Anyone looking for nailed-on Leicester attackers cheaper than Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) might be pleased to know how heavily involved Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) has been during pre-season. Like Justin, he has started both games and with 140 minutes to his name so far, only the defender has been utilised more by Rodgers.

Leicester City XI (4-3-3): Schmeichel (D Ward 46′); L Thomas (Daley-Campbell 62′), Söyüncü (Knight 80′), Morgan (D Johnson 31′ | Benković 62′)), Justin; Tielemans (Dewsbury-Hall 80′), N Mendy (Choudhury 62′), Praet (Tavares 46′); Barnes (Eppiah 80′), Vardy (Iheanacho 46′), Albrighton (Gray 62′).

BURNLEY 3-0 TRANMERE

  • Goals: Matej Vydra (£5.0m), Bobby Thomas, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Erik Pieters x2 (£4.5m), Jimmy Dunne

Sean Dyche split his squad across two matches on Saturday afternoon, which made for a high concentration of youth players.

Erik Pieters (£4.5m) was the standout performer from the win over Tranmere as he registered two assists playing at left-back.

Meanwhile, Matej Vydra (£5.0m) and Jay Rodriguez (£6.0m) led the line in this one, each one surely hoping of nailing down a spot in the front-two with Ashley Barnes (£6.0m) still missing.

Johann Berg Gudmundsson‘s (£5.5m) hopes of getting back to his best in 2020/21 started here too. He took the corners and managed to get on the scoresheet against Tranmere, although Dyche continues to manage his minutes, Chris Conn-Clarke replacing him in the 78th minute.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Peacock-Farrell; Pieters, Thomas, Dunne, Bardsley; Brady, Benson, Brownhill, Gudmundsson (Conn-Clarke 78′); Vydra, Rodriguez.

BURNLEY 1-2 SHREWSBURY

  • Goals: Chris Wood (£6.5m)
  • Assists: Max Thompson

Ben Mee (£5.0m), Kevin Long (£4.5m) and Ben Gibson (£4.0m) were three of the five senior absences from Burnley’s two opening games of pre-season paving the way for a makeshift back-four against Shrewsbury.

Dyche was forced to pair James Tarkowski (£5.0m) with left-back Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and deploy Anthony Glennon in the former Leeds’ defenders usual position. 

Such a set-up did not start the game well as the League One opponents managed to score twice in the opening 12 minutes.

While Taylor is unlikely to play at centre-back this season, it is worth noting that Dyche is prepared to use him there. The budget defender also managed to go close to scoring a header in this game, nearly converting a Dwight McNeil (£6.0m) free-kick but sending his effort just wide.

Chris Wood (£6.5m) kept up his penalty-taking practice in this one, converting a second-half spot-kick earned from a foul on Max Thompson.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Pope (Jensen 46′); Glennon, C Taylor, Tarkowski, Lowton (Elva-Fountaine 75′); Tucker (Trialist 46′), Westwood, Goodridge, McNeil; Wood, Thompson (Mumbongo 46′).

FULHAM 2-2 MK DONS

  • Goals: Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m), Tom Cairney (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Tyrese Francois, Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m)

Scott Parker used two different teams in Fulham’s 2-2 draw with MK Dons on Saturday, their first outing of pre-season.

Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m) was among the five senior players not involved in this one, with Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m) and Tom Cairney (£5.5m) looked to for the goals.

New signing Antonee Robinson (£4.5m) got 45 minutes at left-back while Denis Odoi (not yet priced) played half the game in defence, and could be set for an FPL price in the coming days.

First-half Fulham XI (3-4-3): Rodák; Le Marchand, Hector, Odoi; Bryan, Johansen, Jasper, S Sessegnon; Kebano, Decordova-Reid, Knockaert.

Second-half Fulham XI (4-2-3-1): Bettinelli; A Robinson, Ream, Mawson, Christie; Francois, Cairney; Cavaleiro, Carvalho, Onomah; Kamara.

WEST BROM 0-1 NOTTM FOREST

  • Goals: None.
  • Assists: None.

Apart from three players, the entire West Bromwich Albion squad were used in their opening pre-season friendly on Saturday, although the result was far from promising.

Forward Kenneth Zohore (£5.0m), left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m) and midfielder Oliver Burke (£4.5m) were the only senior players not involved as Slave Bilic used two mostly different XIs between each half.

Goalkeeper Sam Johnstone (£4.5m) was the only one who played 90 minutes.

In a largely uneventful game, mostly organised to give the whole squad some match fitness, there were very few Fantasy takeaways. Managers will have to wait until the Baggies arrange some more games to find out more about Bilic’s plans for the season.

First-half West Bromwich Albion XI (4-2-3-1): Johnstone; Gibbs, Bartley, Peltier, Furlong; Livermore, Field; Edwards, Tulloch, M Phillips; Robson-Kanu.

Second-half West Bromwich Albion XI (3-4-1-2): Johnstone; Hegazi, Shotton, O’Shea; Ajayi; Grosicki, Sawyers, Harper, Pereira; Austin, Soule.

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877 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Lazaretti
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Bkuu.uul

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      ....u..

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nice grav..

  2. mattyb09
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    ****For GW 1 only!!

    A) Son & Antonio
    B) Lo Celso & Ings

    1. mattyb09
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      *Lo Celso can also be Maddison

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Son and Mitro better

      1. mattyb09
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        a) I do not expect Mitro to score vs ARS.
        b) Antonio has half the ownership that Mitro does.

      2. Guba
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Gw1 only. Definitely not Mitro

    3. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

      Lo Celso is a good player, but not really an FPL asset.

      1. mattyb09
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers. Thought it might be a nice pivot off Son & I've read that he is Jose's guy.

    4. Guba
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    5. footballfreak
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    6. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Are you planning to WC?

      1. mattyb09
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Taking a -4 to go: Antonio to Martial; Son to Foden. Then getting KDB in GW3

  3. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    In one or two MLs I'm in (private ones), a load of random players from random countries have somehow joined despite the code not being made public. Has anyone experienced similar?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 7 months ago

        May have mistyped the codes to their leagues? If the codes are pretty similar

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Potentially, but it's happening in two leagues (I've left one now as we are going to make a new one instead) and there's a theme with the countries these players are from.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Egypt?

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                😆

              2. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                One of them, yes

            • Loftus cheeky nandos
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              the owner of the league can kick them

        2. Dthinger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          are you sure no one else shared the code?

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Absolutely positive. No new players have been added for a few seasons as the league is renewed, so only the ML organiser has the code - which he hasn't shared.

            1. have you seen cyan
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              whats the league and can we join

        3. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I'd expect some people try those passward's randomly and getting it right ??

          I have one of ML where people from 2 different continents are IN and it out of nowhere

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I'm not sure, I'm considering leaving the league just in case to be honest.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It's easy to remove the rouge one's though right ??

            2. Pasqualinho
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              League admin has the power to remove them. Then once it is full they can block entry to anyone new.

              1. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                He did this last week when about 10~ from Indonesia joined. More have joined today, but from different countries.

                1. Pasqualinho
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I'd let him carry on with this. Annoying for pre-season but once the season starts the league can be locked for entries which will make his job a lot easier.

                  1. goriuanx
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    True, that's an option. Very annoying though!

        4. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I think the league organiser can remove people, no?

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yep, he removed a group of Indonesian players last week. Today, players from Egypt, Nigeria etc have joined somehow. Which is pretty strange, given that it's a family/friends league all situated in England where all players are known etc.

        5. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Was the option of regenerating league codes always there or has it been introduced this season?

          Maybe that has mixed up league codes.

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I'm not sure when this was introduced but maybe a reason

      • I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Van de Beek is a strange signing for Man United. He is very much an attack minded midfielder. Don't see how Pogba, VdB and Bruno would play together but for that money and with his reputation you'd expect him to be a starter.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He can play Box To Box apparently

          1. El Presidente
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Pogba's spot

        2. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          If United strengthen their defence with a CB then they could play in a midfield 3 with Bruno the more advanced.
          Without, I feel like they need the cover of a Matic.

        3. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 7 months ago

            So many good players sit on benches, coutinho bale look at city cancelo foden jesus or aguero. VDB will get plenty of minutes but he's not going to be a week in week out starter

            1. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              yes. But I don't see why they couldn't play a 433 with Pogba and VDB holding and Bruno centrally more advanced if they add reinforcement to not get exposed at the back.

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  He might, in the easier games. But by in large I'm sure matic/Fred/mctominay play the DM role vdb is more gonna be the replacement for whoever is tired as he's so versatile

              2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Yeah this - the fee isn’t really relevant - 35m is nothing in today’s market

                I personally don’t see how he fits into the first team either though unless Pogba is leaving, or unless Ole sees a future for him further back as a 6 or an 8

                With the champions league though he’ll still get lots of games though so could see him maybe as a depth/bench strength signing

                But the likes of Declan Rice / Kante / Gueye / Ndidi would have made much more sense imo

                And even then - that 6-DM/8-B2B position is *much* less of a priority (Matic, McTominay, Fred, Pogba) than CB & RWF

                You can never have too much quality in a squad of course, but it does strike me as buying what’s available rather than buying what’s needed

                1. El Presidente
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  You nailed it with your last sentence

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Like the kid who's mam sent him down the shops to get bread & milk but he comes back with Pringles & a Twirl

                    Yes Pringles & a Twirl are nice - in fact they're *bloody* nice - but they weren't what was needed & now the family are eating crisps & chocolate for dinner instead of some nice nutritious ham sandwiches

              3. Mayor of Flair
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I'd be surprised if he wasn't a regular starter once settled. Who's going to keep him on the bench?

                Pog and himself in the double pivot

            2. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He's played in deeper roles before.

              And it's not like United play a system with a nailed on DM. Matic is that type of player but when Fred starts ahead of him (as he did in their EL games) it's essentially two box to box players behind a #10. In that system VDB fits in to any of the three midfield positions.

              Which means that given the amount of games United are facing this season, he will play *a lot*.

            3. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              My understanding is he can do a more defensive job too.

              Can also see a diamond formation perhaps being tried in certain fixtures where he replaces Greenwood leaving Martial Rash up top.

              1. amitmishr
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Too many options.. quality signing, offers lot of flexibility. Also, any Pogba/bruno injury, he get straight in the position

          • Bluejays and Horseplay
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            A) Ziyech + Kane + Che Adams
            B) Alli + Werner + Ings

          • TheTruth
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Anyone looking at Ayew? Good value at 6mill

            1. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I got him last year for several GWs, he was RLY GOOD. But this season, Mitro is my choice for 6m

            2. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Prefer Adams at 6.

          • davies
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Anyone doubling up with LIV defenders?

            1. TheTruth
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Yes. Trent and Robertson. Both are worth more then any mid in that price range. In fact they equal the premium mids points wise.

            2. 2999 - Lady of Legend
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Taa and vvd hopefully for the season injury permitting.

            3. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Have done since my first draft.

            4. Mayor of Flair
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Not based on recent form

            5. El Presidente
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Was planning to but they take some time to take off... and with recent injuries.... maybe not from GW1...

          • footballfreak
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            how does this look for GW1? wildcard for GW2

            TAA Robertson Tierney Justin
            Saka Auba (vc) Salah(c)
            Antonio Ings Werner
            Subs: Mitchell, Romeu, Stephens

            1. footballfreak
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Mcarthy in goal

            2. Tony Moon
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              No need to WC. Will be far more valuable later on.

              1. footballfreak
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                am planning to stack my midfield with the manchesters

          • waltzingmatildas
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            How is this looking guys?
            Mccarthy nyland
            TAA Tierney Justin ayling mitchell
            Salah auba alli soucek gordon
            Jimenez adams martial

          • Misunderstood Genius
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Think I might be pretty set on this.

            Ryan (Steer)
            TAA Dier Justin (Vinagre Mitchell)
            Auba Son Alli Saka Soucek
            Werner Adams (Brewster)

            6.5 in the bank which will be spent on upgrading Soucek/Saka/Alli to city and united assets. I have a feeling Liverpool will continue on their post-restart downfall for the first few weeks at least so I'm happy enough to go without Salah.

            thoughts?

            1. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              6.5 itb makes no sense. Why not Saka or Soucek to Mane/Salah?

              1. Misunderstood Genius
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I don't fancy Pool attackers especially at 12m, based on their end of the season form. Saka and Soucek seem like great options for GW1, both are in form and playing weak opposition.

                1. Gabbiadini
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Salah or Mane in GW1 will score more than the others and you can always trade the Pool player as its a placeholder.
                  6.5 itb is just bewildering.

            2. Baps hunter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Why Steer with Ryan? In case of injury to Ryan Button might be better option?

            3. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I agree with going without Liverpool but usually that's so I can reinvest the money in the right places not to leave 6.5m in the bank!!

              1. Misunderstood Genius
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                6.5itb allows me to do Soucek -> Bruno/KDB/Sterling for gw2.

                I think Soucek is a great shout for gw1 against Newcastle and will then ship him out immediately for a big hitting mid as West Ham's fixtures sour

                1. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Why waste that transfer? Just start with Bruno or KdB on the bench.

                  Transfers are valuable too...

            4. Mayor of Flair
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I like it.

              I share your Salah concerns but not brave enough to go without.

          • TheTruth
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Salah for de bruyne. Bench de bruyne first week. Use free transfer next gw for werner to martial.

            1. Agger
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              There’s 3 weeks until you’ll need to use your free transfer, much will change before then

            2. Threat Level Midnight
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Or just no Salah at all?

          • Mayor of Flair
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Am I the only one who thinks Greenwood is an absolute steal at 7.5m?

            Obviously no GW1 but I'm stunned people think Martial or Bruno represent better value.

            1. InterUranus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Tough one, think it depends how much game time he gets. Man U don't look finished in the market.

            2. WVA
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              No I think everyone does but squeezing him in is tough

            3. Misunderstood Genius
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Think he will provide great value especially while Rashford is out

            4. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He is a steal as long as United don't sign anyone for the RW. If/once they do, he drops out. Which I imagine is why people are somewhat hesitant for now.

              1. Mayor of Flair
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                My only concern

            5. Goonsquad245
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              You’re definitely not the only one.

              I think he’s well priced and decent value - would expect him to perform like a good £7.5m mid, but not much more than that.

            6. R.C
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              United will be signing Sancho so nope

            7. Pacer.
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He is 18 years old.

              Not saying don't buy him. Just don't expect he's going to play 38 x 90 or be able to maintain his form

            8. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Of course you're not, but the uncertainty of a potential new arrival in his position (Sancho?) is why people are so reluctant to commit (including me). If no-one else has signed his price will rocket.

          • davies
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Best 4.5 midfielder?

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Gordon? No idea. I dont have one at the moment.

            2. WVA
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              None stretch to Soucek but if not Bissouma maybe

            3. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              If he gets fit McArthy at Palace may be pretty nailed as first choice DM. Certainly he was close to ever present second half of season. Think he’s overtaken Mili there

              YC magnet and close to zero attacking threat. 2/3 pointer

            4. Ser Davos
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Reed (nailed at FUL) or Anguissa (not nailed at FUL but perhaps first choice and with more upside)

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                What sort of upside does Anguissa have? Seen him in a few sides but he’s completely new to me - happy to risk at 4.5 mid!

                1. Ser Davos
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  not much it seems. Reed is a 6, Anguissa is an 8

            5. Karan14
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Bissouma

          • TheTruth
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            My prediction on United line up:

            United will be playing a 4-3-3 formation with greenwood, rashford and martial in front of Bruno, Pogba and VDB.
            VDB and Pogba will be box to box. Bruno will be offensive feeding the front 3.
            Matic will be benched.

            Back four is obvious. But if Smalling finds a way back into the fold then he could take lendelöf spot. Doubtful, but possible.

            1. Loftus cheeky nandos
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Utd will likely sign another cb and sancho- just need to pay up the money which they'll do eventually

          • Red Red Robins
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Anyone else have Brewster and checking loan deals a few times a day?
            If he stays at Pool ill need to really shuffle my team. Id prefer him to get a loan move thn Messi join City
            If Brewster stays and Messi joins, then ill be struggling i think

            1. R.C
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              If Messi joins and Brewster gets his loan move, FPL will come down to a 12 player game!!

          • R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Chris Smalling should be off to Roma soon

            1. TheTruth
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Yes, but United should keep him. Way better then Lind

              1. Red Red Robins
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Agree, thought he was good at Roma

                1. Mayor of Flair
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Disagree. Lindelof improved hugely in the last year. Serie A poorer quality league with some seriously decrepit forwards.

                  1. Red Red Robins
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Tbh i think Baily is better than both. His pace and Maguires lack of is a good partnership

                    1. Mayor of Flair
                      • 9 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Big fan of Bailly. Real shame he can't stay fit.

                  2. El Presidente
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Lindelof has his days counted at United after his attitude towards Bruno...

                  3. Brosstan
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Lindelol is terrible

              2. sully29
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Unfortunately he isn't good enough on the ball to play in their system, so it doesn't really matter if he's better defensively than Lindelof. If he stayed he'd be on the bench.

            2. El Presidente
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              They're both really bad Smelling and Lindelol

          • TheTruth
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            VDB is not a fantasy player. He will turn out to be another Modric.

            1. Mayor of Flair
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Depends on his price

            2. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He's not much like Modric in terms of the way he plays but yes, he similarly isn't an FPL option. *Unless* Fernandes is out injured for a few weeks at any point, in which case VDB could move into that #10 position.

            3. Threat Level Midnight
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              This is music to my ears

            4. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Modric - then that's fantastic!!!! Do you mean Matic?

          • beetlejuice
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            ASM + Ings
            or
            Ziyech + Adams

            Thanks!!

          • Chandler Bing
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            How long is Jordan Henderson out for? Think he's key to choosing how many Liverpool players I'd like to have from the offm

            1. TheTruth
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Take 2 defenders....regardless of henderson.

              1. Chandler Bing
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Even at the expense of Salah?

            2. R.C
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Think he has started training

          • davies
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            A) Bruno Mitrovic

            B) Greenwood Martial

            1. WVA
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              A

            2. Karan14
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              B with Ziyech/Alli over Greenwood to start with.

          • TheTruth
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            A

          • WVA
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Best asset from each of the predicted top six IMO!? Based on points/value etc,

            Liverpool - TAA
            City - KDB
            United - Bruno
            Chelsea - Werner
            Spurs - Doherty
            Arsenal - Auba

            This will be my team come GW4 hopefully.

            McCarthy
            TAA Doherty Vinagre
            Auba KDB Bruno ASM Soucek
            Werner Wood
            Steer Davis Taylor Mitchell

            1. Goonsquad245
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Salah
              Sterling
              Rashford
              Werner/Pulisic
              Son
              Auba

              For me.

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Are you taking into consideration value?

                TAA nearly scored the same as Salah and he is 4.5 less, similar for Doherty and Son!

                I may we'll go Sterling over KDB this season although completely disagree with Rash over Bruno.

                1. Goonsquad245
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Yep - with captaincy I think Salah is better value than TAA.

                  Whether Doherty keeps up that level of output in a different system remains to be seen.

                  Most do disagree on Rashford vs Bruno - definitely not the prevailing opinion but I’m seeing that as an opportunity.

              2. Gabbiadini
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                TAA
                KDB
                Bruno
                Werner
                Son
                Auba

            2. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Decent - very decent.

              In two minds about Doh. Very conflicted if Mou will play him in Wolves role.

              Think Martial is simply a better call than Werner - settled side and confirmed reliable FPL asset who could be captained

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I’d be playing Martial in the gold of Wolves 😀 as my Jim replacement to link up with Bruno

                Like the reasoning of best from each - started post lockdown this way and it turned out quite ok

            3. beetlejuice
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              TAA
              KDB
              Bruno
              Pulisic
              Son
              Auba

          • Pukki Party
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Thoughts here? 2.5m itb to do Son to KdB. Ryan could be McCarthy, not decided yet. Not that happy with having two 8.5 forwards but it's easy to jump on emerging good value cheap fwd.

            Ryan
            TAA Robbo Vinagre Justin
            Salah Son Soucek
            Jimenez Ings Antonio

            Button Greenwood Anguissa 4.0

            1. Pukki Party
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Also one of Jimenez/Ings can become a Chelsea mid or Werner after Liverpool game.

            2. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It's a no from me. Double Liverpool defense and no Spurs really doesn't appeal.

              1. Threat Level Midnight
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Son is in the team?

                1. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I mean defenders.

                  1. Threat Level Midnight
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    You feel Spurs defenders are that essential? Based on what...

                    1. Camzy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Their defensive record end of last season and fixtures to start the new season.

                      1. Threat Level Midnight
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Interesting. I have to disagree but hope it works out for you. Only one worth owning was Aurier and even that was shotty,

                    2. Gabbiadini
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      No, you definitely do not "need" a Spurs defender.

                      1. Camzy
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        I prioritize Spurs defense and Bruno. You should pick a team that matches your priorities.

                        "It's a no from me." That doesn't mean I'm right. It is just my opinion based on the data I've looked at.

              2. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Isn't the "TAA and Robbo are basicly midfielders" excuse viable this season?

                1. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Nah. There's good value at the 4.5m and 5.0m slot in defense.

                  So you start to compare Robertson vs 4.5m with 2.5m to invest upfront and the latter comes up trumps with early bandwagons.

                  1. Pukki Party
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Where would you invest the 2.5 in attack in my team?

                    1. Camzy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Anguissa is a good start...

              3. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Good fixtures for them. Long term i think Wolves and Leicester will get similar amount of clean sheets. Thanks

            3. Threat Level Midnight
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Quite like this a lot. Well thought out and avoids an early wildcard.

              1. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Thanks. I usually get it right the first time, then use my wildcard when i have ruined my perfectly built gw1 squad.

                1. Threat Level Midnight
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Was my downfall last year as well.

            4. WVA
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Don't do the double defence, they looked pretty bad

              1. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                When did they look bad?

                1. WVA
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Did you watch the CS? Ripped apart on many occasions, very lucky to only concede what they did.

                  1. Pukki Party
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    No i didn't. Decision to have double up is based on last two seasons, both defensively and from an attacking point of view.

                    1. Ser Davos
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      I thought they looked terrible this time last year and they still did what they've been doing for two and half years

            5. Goonsquad245
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I actually really like it. Doesn’t look like a team where you should have £2.5 in the bank, which must be a good thing!

              1. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Yeah i'm surprised too, not that hard to make a good team this season. I have a 7.5m player on bench and 2.5itb there.

            6. WVA
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Auba looks insane this season

              1. Pukki Party
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                He never scores when i get him in my team. Brought him in against Bmouth and Villa? last season after 8 returns and he blanked both. So history affects my desicion there.

                1. WVA
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  History killing me with double pool defence too as started with TAA Robbo last season and kept them for 15 weeks of rubbish which crushed my season, not risking that again this season. I seem to do better over the season when I spread the risk and gradually build my rank.

                  1. Pukki Party
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Yeah i guess i could get Doherty over Robbo but not even sure where to spend the 1m.

                  2. Ser Davos
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Patience is key here, month up month patience. Easier said than done and I say this who simplistically focusses on fixtures, rather than reliable assets who always come good. Pool defenders and Auba have always come good for 2 and 1/2 years

                    1. WVA
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      You going TAA Robbo?

          • have you seen cyan
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I cant believe how shrewd that Doherty move was by Spurs 😀
            I think the final fee is only 13.4million, with no add-ons...

            1. Pukki Party
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Average footballer abilities in PL, players prices not based on fpl points. Still a good deal though.

              1. have you seen cyan
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I dont understand how he can be that cheap, he has three years left on his contract

                1. goriuanx
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Check his agent, everything makes sense

            2. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It's a good buy for that price in a position they needed to strengthen.

            3. 2999 - Lady of Legend
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Fantastic played, deserves a lot better than Spurs!

            4. Misunderstood Genius
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Spurs have done really good business so far this window. < 30m for Hojberg and Doherty is a steal in the current market

          • R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Anyone know Upamecano's release clause?

            1. DIMITRIS
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              42 million Euros, but it starts at the end of 2020/2021 season.

              1. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Isn't there one right now? Around 55m pounds? Not sure if it's correct

          • Netters2018
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Latest draft feedback would be good.

            Ryan
            Taa, Kwp, Vinagre, Justin
            Salah, Auba, Son, 10.5m xxx Bissouma
            Werner.
            Bench : Mitchell, Davis, Brewster
            Gw2 xxx becomes bruno...

            Thanks

            1. Pukki Party
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I like it if Brewster gets a loan deal, not sure what the rumours are now. Otherwise i think we need a stronger bench this season with Covid around. First 11 obviously good.

            2. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Bissouma starting, big no thanks.

              1. Netters2018
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Only way is if i dropp taa to raise funds...

                Robbo + Soucek
                Or
                Vvd + armstrong/asm

          • The-Red-1
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Who scores more?

            Kane, Soucek, Vinagre

            Ings Mitro ASM

            1. Threat Level Midnight
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              First by a wide margin IMO if this is only GW1

          • SEXY SOLO SAUCE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Martial over Bruno anyone? 1.5 less and could double up with Greenwood in midfield

            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Both.

            2. DIMITRIS
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Perhaps it would be ideal to pair them?

            3. Karan14
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Easy to fit both Bruno + Martial of Salah isn't a season keeper for you.

              1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                He would be for me I think, and KdB

            4. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Like both as picks. Which to go for over the other, no idea.

            5. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              This question's answers change if/when Sancho comes through the door.

            6. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Not instead - together. Quietly moving off Greenwood here for confirmed FPL asset who’ll start at the pointy end and doesn’t need to beat all known XG odds

          • Gudjohnsen
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            A. Saiss, Son, Ings
            B. Doherty, Ward-Prowse, Kane