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Can Adams deliver on Project Restart promise and match Ings’ for FPL value?

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Che Adams (£6.0m) could offer value in Fantasy Premier League in 2020/21 if the way he finished last season is anything to go by.

The forward found the net four times in his final eight appearances of 2019/20, an encouraging statistic for anyone hoping he will nail down a starting place at Southampton.

If Adams can deliver on the promise shown at the back end of the previous campaign, there could be a knock-on effect of Fantasy darling Danny Ings (£8.5m), which is the focus of this article.

The Saints looked to be a lost cause when Leicester City beat them 9-0 back in October, but a remarkable turnaround in form led to 13 wins from their final 28 matches. In fact, following the restart, only Manchester City and Manchester United collected more points, which resulted in a comfortable mid-table finish.

Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl has since been rewarded with a new contract, and there is evidence he’s starting to build a really good team that could challenge for a European place next season.

So, in this latest article, I’m going to have a closer look at two of their forwards. A comparison piece between the two would have been unthinkable back in December, and is possibly still a bit unfair on Ings who had a formidable season.

But with Adams finishing strongly and coming in at a significantly cheaper price, I’m going to have a look at both players individually, before zoning in on the last four Gameweeks of the season to compare the data. Yes, it’s a small sample size, but could it maybe give us an indication of what to expect going forward?

As this uses Opta data, only those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout subscription can access it in full.

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  1. Sanchit
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Everyone's beloved Bruno has scored 3 goals in the last 6 matches he started.
    All pens.
    No assists.

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    1. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Shh stop telling them.

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      1. Bank$y
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, shhh keep it quiet. Hoping my main rivals TC cos of that easy opener for Man Utd.

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    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That's still more than 4ppg without counting any BPs and CS points 😉

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      1. Sanchit
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, but do you expect United to get a pe every other match?

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        1. Sanchit
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Penalty*

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        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          They have been getting penalties since many months (or maybe years?), their must be some reason to get penalties at this rate.

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          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Don't be so sane ! 🙂

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    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't mind how they come.
      It's like runs in death overs of a Cricket match. 🙂

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  2. SomeoneKnows
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    XXX / 4.0
    TAA / XXX / Taylor / 4.0 / 4.0
    Salah / KDB / Fernandes / XXX / 4.5
    Werner / Mitrovic / Antonio

    A) Alisson, Vinagre, Soucek
    B) Ryan, Doherty, Soucek
    C) Ryan, Vinagre, Saint-Maximin

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    1. Bank$y
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A is maybe the best bet longterm.

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    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B)rilliant

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    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

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    4. jimski
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B for sure

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  3. Bank$y
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Nine days to go to the community shield. Less than a week after the champions league final. What a messed up year.

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Screw the virus!

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  4. SomeoneKnows
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you rather have Werner from the get off, or have a player like Jimenez and upgrade him if necessary with 2 FT? Van Dijk will be the source of funds

    Current team drat:

    Ryan / (Button)
    TAA / VVD / Vinagre / (Taylor, Ferguson)
    Salah / KDB / Bruno / Soucek / (Stephens)
    Jimenez / Mitrovic / Antonio

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It's kinda more sensible to start conservatively and go with Jimi until Werner proves himself.
      I'm starting with Werner.

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    2. Karhumies
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Starting with the more expensive player allows you to downgrade using only 1 FT. Starting with the cheaper player and then upgrading without taking hits can be tricky. That being said, my current front 3 is Werner, Jimenez and Antonio.

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  5. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any 5m defenders worth considering? Or stick with the 4.5m options?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bellerin

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      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Seems nailed?

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Saiss and Coady, possibly Garcia.

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      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Egan?

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    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      4.5

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    4. Sz21
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Holgate.

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    5. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw if fit is one I'm keeping eyes on

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    6. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw/Lindelof

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      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Saiss is also 5

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        1. SpaceCadet
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers

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    7. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Egan

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  6. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy
    Taylor, VVD, Vinagre
    Sterling, KDB, Salah, Greenwood, Ziyech
    Mitrovic, Antonio

    Fodder bench but think this is just about do-able. Don't like not having Trent though.

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    1. Lucky Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sterling Ziyech Antonio => ASM X Werner

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    2. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If you switch to 4 ATB, would solve a lot of problems.
      Get TAA instead of Ziyech and also upgrade Taylor?

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  7. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What about this lot?

    Ryan 4.0

    TAA VVD Laporte Doherty

    Salah Sterling Greenwood Foden Soucek

    Werner

    Taylor 4.5 4.5

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    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think if you set up like this a lot depends on the fixtures, if West Ham and city have tough starts it would need a re think

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      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Fair points. I am unsure if City even have a GW1 fixture.
        I think one flying under the radar is Laporte. They will get so many more CS with him around. He can get easily go close to 180 again and that’s good for 6.0

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  8. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Craziest team I've assembled so far

    4.5 4.0
    TAA vinagre 4.5 Mitchell Ferguson
    Salah KDB Auba Bruno 4.5
    Mitro 6.0 4.5

    Good for the Patience One

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    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Worth trying. Good weeks will be too good! 😉

      My crazy draft looked like:

      4.5, 4
      Shaw, Lascellas, Vinagre, Fergie, 4
      Salah, Kevin, Auba, Green, 4.5
      Werner, Wood, Mitrovic

      Not that bad tbh if defense click 😛

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        That one could actually work.. especially the mid n attack. No TAA though! 😀

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Risky. Wouldn't call it crazy though.

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          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yep risky is the better word to describe

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  9. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    So is it definite what City, Utd and Wolves won’t have a GW1 fixtures or we won’t know til the fixtures are released today?

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    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can't be sure

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    2. Sz21
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Only City and United.
      https://twitter.com/FPL_physio/status/1296192234421977088?s=20

      Wolves + Chel are playing Monday night either against each other or some other team.

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      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks even if it was just those 2 that is probably still 4 players in current drafts

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    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hmm
      Hopefully they make it clear..

      It's not blanks the problem. Double created due to that will be one. If DGW 2 it'll be difficult to manage.

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      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah frying our brains in the first 2 weeks would not be good. The ones who just use up their chips in the first 3 weeks would be happy but no one else.

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Just wait 3 hours.

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        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          If they give scope of 2 GW's before a DGW it can be managed.

          I still feel they can play midweek Manchester Derby.

          Blank Double so early would be ......
          Too much 😛

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      2. Stockport Hatter
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It won't be clear immediately. The BBC link on the previous page clearly states "Man City and United will have fixtures listed for the opening weekend......"

        They'll basically be moved. Could still be in week 1 as it says they won't play the opening weekend.

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        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Hmm
          You're right. Midweek looks best bet

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      3. Sz21
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Earliest DGW possibility is GW14 according to Ben C.

        https://twitter.com/BenCrellin/status/1296160222961192961?s=20

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        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Brilliant then 😀

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  10. kringe
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Lots of talk of Bruno being on penalties. Is he not sharing them with Rashford?

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    1. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Did you follow the Premier League last season?

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      1. kringe
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not as much as would have liked.

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    2. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno will take penalties unless not on field, or until he gets the yips.

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    3. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Rash might still get the odd one but they’re not rotating or anything like that

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      1. amitmishr
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Would be fun when rashford misses the first one he takes,

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      2. kringe
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for info. I just remember at the restart their was alot of talk about taking it in turns (seems like because Rashford got to take the Penalty at Bournemouth). But I now realize that was just the exception of the last 8 penalties.

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  11. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think of this latest......

    Martinez/McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA I VDD I Doh I Laporte I Taylor
    Salah I Bruno I KdB I Soucek I (Gordon)
    Jim I (Davis I Wickham)

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  12. Holmes
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    So Liverpool is facing LEE, sou, ARS, but, NEW based on ticker 😉

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    1. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Interesting stuff!!

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Blimey, so where did that come from?????

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It has City opening GW1 with West Ham. I don't think that's possible. Ah well, we'll see in 2 hours.

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        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah

          Interesting fixtures for Villa and Everton 😀

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  13. Somar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I personally think Rashford is the best United asset. That one million I am going to save (by not going for Bruno) could be the differences between an Armstrong/Saint-Maxim and Foden. Foden will obviously be rotated but I expect him to start every other game if not every game. And this thing of going for a player because of penalties...I don't buy it. What if the penalties stop for United?

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    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wonder how many goals Rashford scored from open play since restart.

      It's not like Bruno has suddenly turned into Jorginho who relies on penalties and has zero threat from open play.

      Only Martial and Greenwood are worth it if you are going to look at recent returns only.

      I'm not in Bruno camp or no-Bruno camp but seems like everyone is trying to find excuse to not pick him 😮

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      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Exactly !

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      2. Somar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Rashford gets more in the box. Is a million cheaper. And a bit of a differential compared to the other United assets. For me, it's anyone guess on who scores in a particular game and that is why I am not willing to pay that extra million for him. You also have to consider where that million is going. Foden is a steal at 6.5

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        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          If that's the case, then all good.

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    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just going cheap from Bruno for the sake of it ?
      Martial a much better option IMO. Rashford is looking very bad recently.

      Re pens, it's an added advantage. Not the primary reason to pick a player. Bruno is engine of Man United attack. Everything goes through him. He's definitely 1m more worth than Rashford.

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      1. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It’s more than an added advantage for Bruno. He is not worth £10.5 without pens, so in his case I would argue it’s the primary reason to pick him. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad one!

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    3. seewhyaxe
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm on the fence on this one.

      I thought Martial looks really interesting.

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      1. Somar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not even considered the Frenchman tbh. Bruno; Greenwood. Rashford better value imo

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        1. seewhyaxe
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Martial is 0.5m less than Rashford, in a position where you might struggle to fill up this season. (others being Werner, Jimenez, that's probably it)

          You could try playing around the positions..!

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  14. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Ryan
    TAA Doherty 4.5
    Salah KDB Greenwood Armstrong Soucek
    Werner Martial

    4.0; 4.5 4.5 4.5

    Soucek and Armstrong can rotate with the 4.5 defenders meaning 352, 442 and 532 are all posssible.

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    1. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      like it

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    2. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just hope Bruno doesn't deliver

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  15. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    New article

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