Scout Notes

Adams and Ings star in big Southampton win as £4.0m defender plot thickens

Fantasy Premier League managers got a first look at Southampton assets in the latest round of pre-season friendlies.

With the Saints favourable fixtures at the start of 2020/21, there is great interest in options at both ends of the field – so we have run the rule over Saturday’s big win over Swansea.

Elsewhere, the £4.0m defender hunt continues to rumble on in rather uninspiring form and the key men at Leicester are becoming more clear.

SOUTHAMPTON 7-1 SWANSEA

  • Goals: Che Adams (£6.0m), Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), Danny Ings x2 (£8.5m), James Ward-Prowse x2 (£6.0m), Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m)
  • Assists: Bertrand x2, Adams, Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m), Redmond x2, Ings.

Danny Ings (£8.5m) and his Southampton colleagues showed they mean business in 2020/21 as they scored seven times in a pre-season win over Swansea on Saturday.

Played across four 30-minute quarters, the first two of these sessions was staffed with what looked much more like the preferred first-choice XI ahead of Gameweek 1, and they were responsible for all the goals during the first hour of a two-hour meeting. This line-up featured Ings and Che Adams (£6.0m) in the front-two of a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the latter’s inclusion in 2020/21.

While we are often urged to take friendly results such as this with a pinch of salt, to find the net so often against Championship opposition should not necessarily be scoffed at.

With some Fantasy managers wondering whether or not Ings can match the value he offered last season, in light of his price hike, it was encouraging to see so many Southampton attackers getting in on the action against the Swans.

Comparisons between the former Burnley forward and Adams have already been made this summer, especially with the latter outscoring him in the last three Gameweeks of 2019/20.

Interestingly, the cheaper of the two men was as heavily involved on Saturday compared to any other Saint. It took Adams just six minutes to get on the scoresheet at St Mary’s converting a Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m) cross from close range.

He went close to netting a second a few minutes later, crashing a volley just wide of the post after a nice one-two with Ings.

Adams then helped Southampton into a two-goal lead as his efforts to find some space in the box resulted in the ball reaching Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), who made no mistake with his powerful effort.

Despite Adams’ contributions, Ings still left the big win with more pre-season attacking returns than his striking partner, combining an assist with two goals, one from the spot.

However, the fact that he took the penalty after Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m) was felled in the box is not necessarily as much of an advantage over Adams as it might seem on first look.

That’s because later in the same match, James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m) took a penalty of his own following a foul on Redmond. It is, of course, early days but, while Ings may take more spot-kicks than Adams this season, Ward-Prowse’s role in the pecking order may shrink the gap.

As Fantasy managers consider how best to invest in the Southampton defence this season, this 7-1 win gave an early indication of what could be on offer in the full-back areas.

Can Adams deliver on Project Restart promise and match Ings' for FPL value?

While Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.5m) had a relatively quiet afternoon, the £0.5m more expensive asset in Bertrand was heavily involved in what Southampton were doing going forward.

As we always say with these pre-season matches, it is early days and the opposition was obviously not Premier League level, but it is worth making ourselves aware of any particular disparity between two players.

Contributing an assist and two goals against Swansea, his runs on the overlap beyond Armstrong seemed to restrict the Scottish international’s involvement too, also worth knowing for anyone shopping in the £5.5m midfielder bracket.

By contrast, with Walker-Peters sitting a little deeper, it allowed right midfielder Redmond to score and assist in open play, as well as earning a penalty.

Jack Stephens (£5.0m) and Jan Bednarek (£4.5m) were the centre-backs in Ralph Hasenhüttl’s first team of the afternoon, with Jannik Vestergaard (£4.5m) and Christoph Klarer used in the final two quarters. However, the absence of new signing Mohammed Salisu (£4.5m) from the matchday squad makes it hard to know what chances he has of starting in Gameweek 1, or some insight into who might make way for the highly-rated centre-back.

First two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): McCarthy; Bertrand, J Stephens, Bednarek, Walker-Peters; Armstrong, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Redmond; Ings, Adams.

Second two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): Forster; Vokins, Klarer, Vestergaard, Valery; Djenepo, Smallbone, Slattery (Jankewitz 90′), Boufal; Obafemi, S Long.

CRYSTAL PALACE 3-0 CHARLTON

  • Goals: Jordan Ayew x2 (£6.0m), Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Zaha, Andros Townsend (£6.0m), Jeffrey Schlupp (£5.5m)

There were more pre-season minutes for Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m) as Crystal Palace waltzed to a 3-0 win over Charlton Athletic.

The left-back played 64 minutes, bringing his total time played during the summer to 134 minutes over two matches. That’s the longest anyone has spent on the left-side of defence for Palace thus far, but is it enough to guarantee a Gameweek 1 start? Not quite yet.

Mitchell was first called into action at left-back in the 2-1 win over Oxford United, emerging as a 20th-minute substitute for the injured James McCarthy (£4.5m). With Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) still on the sidelines, the versatile Jairo Riedewald (£4.5m) was the man who initially started at left-back but moved into central midfield when Mitchell took to the pitch.

With Luka Milivojevic (£6.0m) still not involved in pre-season games and Cheikhou Kouyaté (£5.0m) filling in for the injured Gary Cahill (£4.5m), James Tomkins (£4.5m) and Mamadou Sakho (£4.5m), Roy Hodgson is quite short-staffed in central midfield right now.

It means that anyone returning from injury at centre-back could push Kouyaté back into midfield, while Milivojevic returning to the fold would also boost options there too and reduce the chances of Riedewald being used there.

The knock-on effect of such a chain of events could be that Riedewald moves back into defence and pushes Mitchell back out of the team. Fantasy managers will have to keep an eye out for this in Palace’s last two friendlies of the summer, against Millwall and Brondby IF.

As the hunt for form players in cheaper brackets goes on, Jordan Ayew (£6.0m) threw his name in the hat on Saturday afternoon, with two quickfire goals against Charlton, and a goalpost away from a hat-trick.

Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) also impressed deployed out-of-position. The FPL midfielder has now played over a game and a half up-front in a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the new campaign. Started in midfield against Oxford, Zaha was moved forward in the second half and subsequently found the net, while his goal and assist against Charlton came from a 90-minute stint as a striker.

Andros Townsend (£6.0m) has been a consistent presence on the flanks of midfield during pre-season for Crystal Palace so far. While Zaha has been involved the most (180 minutes), Townsend’s 159 minutes across two matches is the second-most of any Eagle this summer. Scoring in the first friendly and assist in the second, the former Spurs man went close to finding the net against Charlton too with a spectacular overhead kick.

Fantasy managers also got a chance to have a first look at new signing Eberechi Eze (£6.0m) in a Crystal Palace shirt, who was deployed on the left-hand side of midfield, where he registered most of his goals and assists in the Championship last season.

By all accounts, the former QPR man was impressive, linking up well with Zaha and Townsend in particular, adding some much-needed pace and guile into the Eagles’ attack.

Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) has still not been involved in pre-season for Palace, but Hodgson is yet to show any specific favour for his other goalkeeper options. Stephen Henderson and Wayne Hennessey (£4.5m) have both played 90 minutes each in the Spaniard’s absence so far.

Crystal Palace XI (4-4-2): Hennessey; Mitchell (Kelly 64′), Dann (Inniss 78′), Kouyaté (Woods 78′), J Ward (Kirby 64′); Eze (Schlupp 46′), McArthur (M Boateng 78′), Riedewald (Jach 78′), Townsend (Pierrick 78′); Zaha, Ayew (Gordon 83′).

WEST HAM 2-1 BRENTFORD

  • Goals: Andriy Yarmolenko (£6.0m), Tomas Soucek (£5.0m).
  • Assists: Pablo Fornals (£6.5m), Michail Antonio (£6.5m).

David Moyes appears to be readying Sebastien Haller (£6.5m) for a return to centre-forward duties at West Ham this season.

After scoring a hat-trick in a 90-minute outing against Ipswich last time out, the Frenchman started in the place of Michail Antonio (£6.5m) on Saturday.

However, Project Restart’s form man will not go away quietly. He came on for Haller at half-time, providing the assist for the Hammers’ winning goal.

However, anyone still interested in Antonio may want to keep their ears to the ground for a fitness update in the coming days. He lasted just 29 minutes against Brentford, forced off with a bang to the hip.

Also of note from a Fantasy perspective was another pre-season goal for Tomas Soucek (£5.0m). Interest in the budget midfielder tanked upon the release of West Ham’s fixtures but he now has two goals in as many friendly appearances ahead of a Gameweek 1 meeting with Newcastle, who typically struggle to defend against aerial threats. You can read more about Soucek here.

The hunt for a £4.0m defender continues to wind on without too much joy for Fantasy managers as Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) returned to the West Ham side on Saturday.

His start at right-back meant Ben Johnson (£4.0m) was treated to just 32 minutes against Brentford. The cheaper of the two options has more pre-season minutes thus far, but there are still two more friendlies for West Ham to play. Keeping an eye on how often Fredericks is involved at Johnson’s expense (or vice versa) is an essential task for Fantasy managers ahead of Gameweek 1.

West Ham United XI (4-2-3-1): Fabianski; Cresswell (Masuaku 46′), Ogbonna, Balbuena, Fredericks (B Johnson 58′); Noble (Cullen 46′), Wilshere (Soucek 46′); Yarmolenko (Anderson 46′), Fornals (Lanzini 46′), Diangana (Bowen 46′); Haller (Antonio 46′ | Coventry 74′).

LEICESTER 0-0 SHEFF WEDS

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None

James Justin (£4.5m) already appears to be the most cost-efficient, and safest route into Leicester’s defence ahead of the new season.

After two of their three friendly matches, the versatile full-back has played more minutes than any other Fox (150).

Capable of playing on the left or right-hand side of defence, the departure of Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) combined with Ricardo Pereira‘s (£6.0m) continued absence and Christian Fuchs‘ (£4.5m) injury all mean Justin is very likely to feature from the beginning when Leicester visit West Bromwich Albion in Gameweek 1.

Luke Thomas (£4.5m) remains an option at left-back, registering his first game-time of pre-season in the 0-0 draw with Sheffield Wednesday, although feels less assured of a start when at the Hawthorns next month.

It will be interesting to see who Brendan Rodgers will pair with Çaglar Söyüncü (£5.5m) at centre-back in the event that his defensive crisis does not ease by September 13.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) will miss the first three matches of 2020/21 through suspension while Wes Morgan (£4.5m) was added to the injury list against Sheffield Wednesday, withdrawn with a tight hamstring.

Based on Leicester’s two pre-season matches so far, Filip Benković (£4.5m) and Darnell Johnson look the two-most likely to deputise for Evans and Morgan, having played 73 and 61 minutes each so far.

Anyone looking for nailed-on Leicester attackers cheaper than Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) might be pleased to know how heavily involved Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) has been during pre-season. Like Justin, he has started both games and with 140 minutes to his name so far, only the defender has been utilised more by Rodgers.

Leicester City XI (4-3-3): Schmeichel (D Ward 46′); L Thomas (Daley-Campbell 62′), Söyüncü (Knight 80′), Morgan (D Johnson 31′ | Benković 62′)), Justin; Tielemans (Dewsbury-Hall 80′), N Mendy (Choudhury 62′), Praet (Tavares 46′); Barnes (Eppiah 80′), Vardy (Iheanacho 46′), Albrighton (Gray 62′).

BURNLEY 3-0 TRANMERE

  • Goals: Matej Vydra (£5.0m), Bobby Thomas, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Erik Pieters x2 (£4.5m), Jimmy Dunne

Sean Dyche split his squad across two matches on Saturday afternoon, which made for a high concentration of youth players.

Erik Pieters (£4.5m) was the standout performer from the win over Tranmere as he registered two assists playing at left-back.

Meanwhile, Matej Vydra (£5.0m) and Jay Rodriguez (£6.0m) led the line in this one, each one surely hoping of nailing down a spot in the front-two with Ashley Barnes (£6.0m) still missing.

Johann Berg Gudmundsson‘s (£5.5m) hopes of getting back to his best in 2020/21 started here too. He took the corners and managed to get on the scoresheet against Tranmere, although Dyche continues to manage his minutes, Chris Conn-Clarke replacing him in the 78th minute.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Peacock-Farrell; Pieters, Thomas, Dunne, Bardsley; Brady, Benson, Brownhill, Gudmundsson (Conn-Clarke 78′); Vydra, Rodriguez.

BURNLEY 1-2 SHREWSBURY

  • Goals: Chris Wood (£6.5m)
  • Assists: Max Thompson

Ben Mee (£5.0m), Kevin Long (£4.5m) and Ben Gibson (£4.0m) were three of the five senior absences from Burnley’s two opening games of pre-season paving the way for a makeshift back-four against Shrewsbury.

Dyche was forced to pair James Tarkowski (£5.0m) with left-back Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and deploy Anthony Glennon in the former Leeds’ defenders usual position. 

Such a set-up did not start the game well as the League One opponents managed to score twice in the opening 12 minutes.

While Taylor is unlikely to play at centre-back this season, it is worth noting that Dyche is prepared to use him there. The budget defender also managed to go close to scoring a header in this game, nearly converting a Dwight McNeil (£6.0m) free-kick but sending his effort just wide.

Chris Wood (£6.5m) kept up his penalty-taking practice in this one, converting a second-half spot-kick earned from a foul on Max Thompson.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Pope (Jensen 46′); Glennon, C Taylor, Tarkowski, Lowton (Elva-Fountaine 75′); Tucker (Trialist 46′), Westwood, Goodridge, McNeil; Wood, Thompson (Mumbongo 46′).

FULHAM 2-2 MK DONS

  • Goals: Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m), Tom Cairney (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Tyrese Francois, Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m)

Scott Parker used two different teams in Fulham’s 2-2 draw with MK Dons on Saturday, their first outing of pre-season.

Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m) was among the five senior players not involved in this one, with Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m) and Tom Cairney (£5.5m) looked to for the goals.

New signing Antonee Robinson (£4.5m) got 45 minutes at left-back while Denis Odoi (not yet priced) played half the game in defence, and could be set for an FPL price in the coming days.

First-half Fulham XI (3-4-3): Rodák; Le Marchand, Hector, Odoi; Bryan, Johansen, Jasper, S Sessegnon; Kebano, Decordova-Reid, Knockaert.

Second-half Fulham XI (4-2-3-1): Bettinelli; A Robinson, Ream, Mawson, Christie; Francois, Cairney; Cavaleiro, Carvalho, Onomah; Kamara.

WEST BROM 0-1 NOTTM FOREST

  • Goals: None.
  • Assists: None.

Apart from three players, the entire West Bromwich Albion squad were used in their opening pre-season friendly on Saturday, although the result was far from promising.

Forward Kenneth Zohore (£5.0m), left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m) and midfielder Oliver Burke (£4.5m) were the only senior players not involved as Slave Bilic used two mostly different XIs between each half.

Goalkeeper Sam Johnstone (£4.5m) was the only one who played 90 minutes.

In a largely uneventful game, mostly organised to give the whole squad some match fitness, there were very few Fantasy takeaways. Managers will have to wait until the Baggies arrange some more games to find out more about Bilic’s plans for the season.

First-half West Bromwich Albion XI (4-2-3-1): Johnstone; Gibbs, Bartley, Peltier, Furlong; Livermore, Field; Edwards, Tulloch, M Phillips; Robson-Kanu.

Second-half West Bromwich Albion XI (3-4-1-2): Johnstone; Hegazi, Shotton, O’Shea; Ajayi; Grosicki, Sawyers, Harper, Pereira; Austin, Soule.

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  1. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A. Ziyech & Son

    or

    B. Salah & Soucek

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      all 4 for me

    4. jimski
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    5. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

  2. Crunchie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone looking at Thomas instead of Justin. Looks pretty nailed at LB for Leicester?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      yes, I am Thomas over Justin. Until transfers obviously may change things.

    2. DIMITRIS
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Leicester is about to buy Timothy Castagne from Atalanta as a replacment for Chilwell.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Castagne is right-footed.

    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think Justin plays at LB Infront of him when RB back?

    4. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Read article - he does't seem nailed yet. Imho, however, Thomas looks like a future star ...

    5. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Justin Thomas is in my fantasy PGA if that helps

    6. Ian J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Justin can play left & right back - pereira is out for a few weeks
      Thomas is covering left back place until sign a Chilwell replacement

  3. DIMITRIS
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts are welcomed. This draft is a little bit different, but might just do the work.

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA / Robbo / Justin / Vinagre (Mitchell)
    Auba / Ziyech / ASM / Soucek ( Bruno F)
    Werner / Ings (Brewster)

    0.5 ITB

    Plan for GW2 is to move Ings for Martial , which would leave me with mufc combo of Bruno and Martial for GW2 and onwards.
    Thoughts?

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Don't see anything different

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Different from the template, in sense of starting without Salah/Mane and double Pool defence

    2. Young Lingard
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’d consider that the advantage you’ve given yourself for UnitedS two assets v palace in GW2 might be cancelled out as you have two attacking Chelsea assets versus two defensive Liverpool assets the same game week.
      But I love the idea behind it

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Perhaps I can nullify the damage by getting Doherty instead of Robbo. Will think about it over and over untill deadline...

      2. Ian J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        The extra million for Doherty in place of Robinson will allow an upgrade to Son ??

    3. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I kike it - virtually identical to mine. Only difference is I have Doherty instead of Robbo with 1.0m in the bank

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers 🙂

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Working on same principle just minus Chelsea versus Liverpool in GW2 - double up looks poor.

      Benching Martial and moving Mo on for Bruno. Suspect Martial beats Werner over the 2 games 🙂

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Then perhaps it's better to stretch from Ziyech to Son somehow ?

  4. Jems Reds
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts ?

    Ryan (Button)
    TAA, Virg, Vinagre (Taylor, Mitchell)
    Salah, Son, Soucek, Podence (KDB)
    Werner, Mitro, Adams

    Podence can change to any 5.5, just a gut feeling on him at the moment.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I like this team.

      It is different in a good way. Not much to critique except McCarthy over Ryan. I think it is objectively a mistake to pick Ryan over McCarthy based on last season's defensive data post restart and upcoming fixtures.

      I'm also not a fan of double Liverpool defense but it's my opinion. Would rather have Doherty but I could easily be wrong.

      1. Jay Jay Okocha
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I have Ryan as a placeholder until we're sure about McCarthy's place with Forster back in the mix

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      On a fairly similar trajectory

      Difference is no VVD early for me - putting that cash up top. Don’t like the double 6.0 look - screams early transfer to me.

      Prefer Traore to Podence - suspect he’ll get more game time with no Doh there and he’s a confirmed FOL asset

  5. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Imagine if Soucek got injured in pre-season...

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Noble essential

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nope the template falls apart

      2. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I've been thinking about Noble a lot. He seems nailed, is on penalties, takes indirect free kicks if I'm not mistaken. My only concern is that he's getting old and not sure he's a consistent starter anymore.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      The template falls apart. I'd upgrade that slot and sacrifice in other areas. I'd rebuild the GW1 draft.

    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I already love Soucek

    4. JELLYFISH
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Gotta day I normally avoid WHU players in FPL but I’m all over Soucek

      1. Ian J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Soucek is in everyone draft as he’s getting into great positions & scoring, but west hams fixture nasty pretty quick, so he’ll most likely be benched from gw3, so no loss if injured -swap for Armstrong

  6. davies
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on this 442 draft?

    McCarthy 4.0
    TAA Robertson Davies 4.0 4.0
    Salah Auba Son Soucek 4.5
    Werner Mitrovic 4.5

    GW2: Son > Bruno
    GW3: Auba > KDB
    GW4: 4.0 > Vinagre/Taylor

    Cheers.

    1. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Fairly template, looks solid.

    2. GE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not a fan of 3-4-2 😉

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        LOL. It's obviously a 5-4-1 with both 4m defenders starting

        1. OLDHERMAN
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Ok, got it. Not bad at all.

    3. OLDHERMAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Who's been sent off?

  7. alfoir
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How are those pre-seasons tinkerings coming along, then?

    I've had Mitro in my draft since before fixtures were released, and I've just replaced him with Adams. Mitchell seems locked as my 4.0 defender. Double Liverpool in defence (TAA, VVD) has gone, Davies of Spurs replacing VVD. Auba has taken the armband off Salah for GW1, and it's Mo I'm now considering dumping in 2-3 weeks for KDB.

    Vinagre a lock, but my second 4.5 defender spot still remains a tinker spot. I'm between Ayling and Justin, currently sat on the latter.

    1. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Haven't done a thing to my team for two weeks, not a lot of point until we we get the GW1 team news, so much can change between now and then.

    2. beetlejuice
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It is funny that I went through similar moves. Binned Ings for Adams which allowed me to update ASM to Ziyech. Swapped Dallas for Justin. Moved armband from Salah to Auba and even thinking to ditch Salah completely for Bruno (that is my GW2 planned move).

    3. Mings the Merciless
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm with you on the tinkering! Just brought Adams in. I might try and show patience with Salah though. Aside from Vinagre, I really like Lamprey - if Brighton keep clean sheets, I think he'll grab lots of bonus points.

  8. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    So who's brave enough to go without Pool defenders? There's so much value in the 4.5m-5.0m bracket...

    1. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think TAA is as close to essential as it gets. Basically gets the output of a good midfielder with lots of cs thrown in.

    2. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is there actually?

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        5.0 bracket is great

        1. R.C
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Like who? I really don't see Spurs keeping CSs with Dier as CB

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Lmao, dreadful opinion

    3. rozzo
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Where is the value?

      Those price point defenders have been lucky to get over 100 points during the season.

      140 max if you are lucky.

      TAA, Robbo and VVD are 200 pointers.

      Vinagre if he plays, ok fair enough. Who else? KWP? How many points do you think he will get? 100? 120?

      Lascelles? Again. 100? 120?

      When you have players in the same position scoring 80 plus points more over a season I can't see any value in 4.5 to 5 defenders.

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Pool better pull their heads out of their a*ses in that case. Because they've been poor post restart.

    4. pjomara
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      TAA (7.5) outscored 12.0 Auba and 11.5 Sterling last season.
      Robertson (7.0) outscored 9.5 Rashford, 9.0 Son and 8.5 Mahrez.

      1. Ian J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Well said - you must compare TAA & Robinson with who you would spend the extra defender cash in midfield- no one comes close - I’m all for doubling up

  9. antis0cial
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Latest draft, too much spurs? I’m thinking gives plenty of options to move to united or Chelsea options. Not adverse to dropping salah after gw1.

    McCarthy
    TAA Davies Vinagre
    Salah Auba Son Ali Soucek
    Werner Mitro

    Steer KWP Mitchell Brewster

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      KWP > Justin for rotation reasons. Gives you 2 good defenders for GW2.

      This was a draft I was just tossing around. I like it.

      1. antis0cial
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks. I hadn’t really looked into rotation. Could be a good call, just worried about that Leicester defence with all their missing players.

        I like the amount of options this gives to jump on Bruno/greenwood or Chelsea assets. Will also look to get KDB gw3 for Auba.

        Will keep an eye on Ali but when fit he tends to be a great fpl asset.

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Surely Leicester's defense is favored for BUR vs Wolves' MCI and Southampton's TOT. As long as you cover GW2 for Wolves and GW4 for Spurs you can just truck along with Davies + Vinagre for the bulk.

          Prefer Dier over Davies btw just purely for set piece threat. Dier takes some FKs and also is tall as an aerial threat.

          1. antis0cial
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yep good point. I just think Leicester’s defence looks poor Thomas Soy Morgan Justin. But much better fixtures.

            I don’t think I expect much in the way of attacking returns from Davies or Dier. Dier has 3 goals in last 3 seasons. I’d go for whoever looks the most nailed going by friendlies leading up to gw1.

  10. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts?

    McCarthy Steer
    Trent Lamptey KWP Vinagre Ayling
    Salah Auba ASM Son Soúcek
    Ings Werner Brewster.

    1. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      like it

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It’s very good.

    3. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Identical to mine except I have Kane and Stephens to your Son and Brewster (plus a slightly cheaper defence).

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks both

      2. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Stonefly considering Kane really want him actually.

        What is your defense?

        1. HollywoodXI
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Trent Vinagre Mitchell Ferguson Johnson - basically relies on one of the 4m brigade nailing a start. Mitchell looks most likely at the moment.

    4. Penzardlife
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Very similar to mine (Armstrong over ASM, no double Soton), so it's perfect.

  11. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Where exactly does this 'Aurier is on his way out of Spurs' come from? It's parroted on here as if it's already decided (even before Doherty was bought) but I haven't seen a single credible source or quote about it. Source?

    1. Cojones of Destiny
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      this

    2. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Source: All or Nothing - Watch the Doc

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        What in the doc is evidence that he's moving?

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Transfermarkt has Aurier joining AC Milan at 78%.

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I've seen numerous links to AC Milan. Can't remember the source right now, possibly Fabrizio Romano.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yep, Romano has said Aurier is in talks

    5. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He will stay

  12. Cojones of Destiny
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    would you :
    a. Adams (3/4/3)
    b. JWP (4/4/2)

    1. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Adams

  13. timowerner9
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    very tempted to go salah-less for the first 2 gw.

    Mccarthy
    Doherty Justin TAA Vinrage
    Auba(c) soucek Son
    Ings Werner Mitrovic
    bench: Nyland Mitchell stephens B.Fernandes

    that way I can just play Bruno from gw2 onwards and ill cap Auba for gw1 and 2. pool facing chelsea at gw2 so I dont fancy captain's salah anyways. auba can switch back to salah or kdb depending on the early season form. thoughts?

    1. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      How would you feel when Liverpool face off against a promoted Leeds with Salah having an EO of over 80% in GW1?

      1. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Have you seen Fulham play.

      2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Think it will be more than that, 100%+

  14. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Paperworks signed between Ajax and Manchester United. Time for medicals. Contract to be signed on next hours until June 2025. Donny Van de Beek to Man Utd, here we go confirmed for the ‘homegrown’ talent who’ll leave Ajax #MUFC #ManUtd #Ajax #vandebeek

    @Fabri

    1. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      YESSSSS

    2. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Back of the net

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Poor lad, Barca dream shattered.

  15. Loftus cheeky nandos
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    RMT:
    Ramsdale (PF)
    Taa, Doh, Justin, Vinagre (fergason/mitchell(depends who's playing)
    Salah, auba, saint-max, soucek (4.5)
    Kane, adams (martial)

    Salah to bruno for gw2 - 2 utd palyers vs cp, so soucek doesn't play- on the bench to gain value

  16. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Newcastle trying to sign Callum Wilson in a Ritchie + cash swap deal

    1. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mmm finally a Good striker for ASM

  17. linkafu
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Think

    Mc Carthy

    TAA Vinagre KWP
    Auba Salah Son Soucek
    Mitro Jimenez Adams

    Steer Justin Taylor Foden

    GW2 Jimenez to Martial
    GW3 Auba to KDB

  18. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    People are gonna drop like flies with all these trsfrs they got lines up for wk 2-3.

    1. davies
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What are you doing with City/United players?

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        martial benched. will worry about city later.

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You benching a Utd/City player?

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        yeah

    3. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      ^ THIS

    4. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A big reason to have one United player on the bench.
      Another squad member gets injured on banned and stops you getting in who you want for GW2.

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      One a week ; Son > Bruno ; Auba/Salah > KdB

  19. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    So Donny VDB, how much will he cost on FPL?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      8

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        More expensive than Greenwood? Nah.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yep

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      7.0

    3. JBG
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Should be 6.5 or something like that. Don't see many FPL returns from him.

  20. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Double Southampton attack too much?

    McCarthy
    TAA,Egan,Davies
    Salah,Aubamayang,Ziyech,JWP,Soucek
    Ings,Werner

    Steer,Vinagre,Johnson,Davis

    1. UnluckyXI
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nah, good fixtures and jwp is an easy switch to a 5.5 in form mid if he blanks

  21. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    With Rakitic leaving Barca, this could mean Wijnaldum to Barca and Pool buy Thiago.

    Sigh...

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I wonder how Thiago will impact Salah and Mane's returns. Could be the creative threat from the midfield they're looking for

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Also wonder if greater creativity from central midfield will impact the way the fullbacks operate, as Liverpool have been heavily reliant on them to provide the creativity up to now.

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Given Barca couldn't get Van Der Beek, I highly doubt they can get Gini.

  22. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    GTG? Obvs depends on 4m defender being nailed to start GW1.

    McCarthy
    Trent Vinagre Mitchell
    Salah Auba ASM Soucek
    Kane Werner Ings

    Steer Stephens Ferguson Johnson

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Probably playing with 10 but still could be paid back from them.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Just need Mitchell, Ferguson or Johnson to get a start GW1

    2. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I like your team but you have a lot of doubt player (mitchell stephens ferguson johnson)

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yep still surveying pre season to see if any of the 4m nail a spot. Stephens will likely be Harrison Reed or Anguisa before the deadline (again I’m monitoring).

  23. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I think I'll go Adams instead of Mitrovic. Wrong?

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If you're confident then why are you asking us? Go for it.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Well, it doesn't hurt to hear opinions on it. And this is a fantasy forum, so...

    2. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'll go with both. Think they'll be great value

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

  24. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys. Which player do you prefer? Ritchie or Soucek?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      cek

    2. WorldCupDanB
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Soucek for me

      1. Will J 256
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers guys!

  25. Eleesium Lions
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I am amazed given the quality performance in the Charity Shield and the link up play with Aubamayang, how Saka appears to be under a lot of radars!

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      sshhhh

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        you shhhh

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      and if Willian plays?

      1. el polako
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Then easy swap to one of mid priced mids.
        He looks though like one of key players for Arteta.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          maybe, but I dont want a non playing 5.5 milf in wk 1

          1. el polako
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            True, can always start with ASM and go the other way should Saka look like nailed option.

      2. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Saka seems to be able to play in 4 different positions, so maybe he goes to LWB?

    3. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      My current draft have 3 Arsenal (Tierney, Saka & Auba) they seem to be turning corner under Arteta and offer great value.

    4. KujaliaFC
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He's great value if he plays.

      People are probably twitchy about his security of starts with Willian and Pepe returning to the squad.

      As an Arsenal fan, I like it when he starts, FPL aside.

      1. OLDHERMAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        How could Arsenal waste such a massive amount of talent benching this boy? I would bet he starts in at least 80% of the games next season.

        1. KujaliaFC
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Arteta has been playing him and I reckon he'll play most of the games.

          The only Arsenal attacker who's nailed is Aubameyang, and this situation will be worse when Martinelli returns.

  26. Captain Warlock
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A) Rashford & Mitrovic
    B) Greenwood & Ings
    Don’t know if I can rely on Greenwood??

  27. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    1 - Armstrong, 2 - Saka
    A - Mitrovic, B - Adams

    Which is the better combo? Currently on 1A, but would very much appreciate your thoughts.

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      When will you WC?

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm not planning to WC just yet. Hopefully, I'll save it up until after GW10 or so

    2. OLDHERMAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2-A but it is a close call.

  28. Moxon
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How's this for a team with Fernandes on the bench?

    McCarthy (Steer)
    TAA, Doherty, Vinagre, Justin (Mitchell)
    Auba, Salah, ASM, Soucek (Fernandes)
    Werner, Mitro (Davis)

    Any need to downgrade Doherty to Dier? Don't know what I'd do with the extra cash tbh

  29. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys. Currently have 0.5 in the bank. Would you rather upgrade James Justin to a 5.0 defender, upgrade soucek to a 5.5 mid or just leave it for early price rises? Hope this makes sense!

  30. I Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is Dier completely nailed? No chance of Sanchez + Alderweireld being the pairing?

    1. OLDHERMAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Just as long as Mourinho sees results. Then, I think Alderweireld will take his place.
      I remember everyone that Mourinho's Champions League winner Inter 2009-2010 constantly fielded Walter Samuel and Lùcio, both between 32 and 33 years old, all season long.
      Alderweireld seems to be around since the Middle Ages, but he's just 31. And Dier is always Dier: everything but a fully reliable centreback.