Scout Notes

Why Werner blanked at West Brom and whether to hold or sell him for FPL Gameweek 4

West Brom 3-3 Chelsea

  • Goals: Callum Robinson x2 (£5.5m), Kyle Bartley (£4.5m) | Mason Mount (£6.9m), Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m), Tammy Abraham (£7.3m)
  • Assists: Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), Darnell Furlong (£4.5m) | Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m), Kai Havertz (£8.4m), Mount
  • Bonus points: C Robinson x3, Mount x2, Reece James x1 (£5.1m)

Timo Werner (£9.4m) remains goalless in the Premier League after Chelsea’s trip to West Bromwich Albion did not go according to plan.

The German international had been understandably turned to by 800,000+ Fantasy Premier League managers for the Gameweek 3 captaincy only to be rewarded with nothing more than a two-point score.

As some start to lose patience in Werner, it serves to analyse what went wrong for him on Saturday evening as there were, admittedly, some mitigating circumstances behind his first blank of the campaign.

Tammy Abraham’s (£7.3m) impressive EFL Cup performance midweek was enough to convince Frank Lampard to hand the centre-forward role to him at the Hawthorns, which shifted Werner onto the left-hand side of a 4-2-3-1.

That left him with less time in the penalty box than his 35% ownership would have liked, but Chelsea’s abysmal start to the game in defence did not help him either.

The Blues gifted three goals to West Bromwich Albion inside the first 27 minutes which eased any pressure on the hosts considerably. Each time Chelsea conceded, the Baggies sat deeper and deeper inside their five-man defence and bank of four midfielders, making life much harder for any visiting attacker to find some space.

That said, there was one moment in the first half that Werner and his owners will view with regret. In the 14th minute, Mason Mount (£6.9m) finally managed to find some space around the back of left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m), squaring to Werner, who crashed his short-range shot against Sam Johnstone‘s (£4.5m) crossbar.

Chelsea’s issues in other areas of the team then counted against Werner in the second half as Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m) replaced Marcos Alonso (£6.0m) and winger Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m) came on for Mateo Kovačić (£5.5m).

With Hudson-Odoi on the pitch, who prefers to operate on the left-flank of attacking midfield as an inside forward, Lampard catered that with his formation tweak, shifting Werner onto the right-hand side.

“Callum (Hudson-Odoi) gave me everything I asked and wanted from him in terms of his ability to go one-on-one, trying to take people on. He got his goal. That’s what Callum needs to do. That’s the sort of impact he can have for us and it has to be consistent. He gave himself a great platform now to continue in that vain. He’ll be very important for us if he does.” – Frank Lampard

And when Olivier Giroud (£6.9m) took to the field in the place of Thiago Silva (£5.5m), enabling Lampard to pair the Frenchman with Abraham up-front in a 3-5-2, Werner was even further away from the danger areas.

During the final 15 minutes of the game, the only opportunity Chelsea’s number 11 had was when he emerged unmarked at the back post following a corner, only to see his powerful shot blocked by Kyle Bartley (£4.5m).

Would Chelsea have had to make these slew of changes to their side had they not gone 3-0 down in the opening half-an-hour? Almost certainly not. Would Werner have been better suited to this game had West Bromwich Albion not retreated into a deep block after a perfect start to the game? Almost certainly.

Perhaps that is the question his owners should consider ahead of the visit of Crystal Palace to Stamford Bridge in Gameweek 4. And even if Werner is deployed on the left-hand side of Chelsea’s attack again for that match, the Eagles’ have struggled to defend that area of the pitch in recent months. As Jan Sienkiewicz reminded us in a recent Captain Sensible article, the following left-sided players registered at least one attacking return facing them during Project Restart:

  • Sadio Mané (£11.9m) – goal
  • Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) – two assists
  • Christian Pulisic (£8.3m) – goal
  • Daniel Podence (£5.6m) – goal
  • Marcus Rashford (£9.5m) – goal and assist

Furthermore, the fitness of Pulisic and Hakim Ziyech (£7.9m) remain in the equation for Werner’s Fantasy appeal. The penetrative runs offered by the American, and Ziyech’s exceptionally creative abilities would have been the perfect tools to break down West Bromwich Albion’s deep block on Saturday, and could be important when facing Palace in Gameweek 4 – something to keep an eye on in Lampard’s upcoming press conferences.

Meanwhile, owners of Kai Havertz (£8.4m) are likely at a crossroads following his contribution to this game. Like Werner, the disastrous start to the game for Chelsea did take its toll, but a chance to operate as a number 10 produced the German’s best performance in a Premier League game so far.

Admittedly, he was making that improvement from a low base, but there were still encouraging signs. The question is: has it come soon enough for his 8.8% ownership to retain their faith for one more week.

In the 10th minute, Havertz picked the ball up on the right-hand edge of the penalty box and unleashed a powerful curling effort. Johnstone could not hold onto it, forced to punch it clear.

Then in the closing stages, the former Bayer Leverkusen man found some space in a central area of the penalty box, but his deflected shot went out for a corner.

And it was his link-up with Hudson-Odoi that got Chelsea closer to their hard-earned point in the 70th minute. That assist was his first attacking return of the season, making four a five-point score. Considering the interest in Blues assets this week, that is certainly less than was probably expected by his owners.

Chelsea’s ongoing defensive issues did not help Reece James‘ (£5.1m) Fantasy appeal, who has now blanked in two of his three Premier League outings this season.

Just as was the case against Brighton in Gameweek 1, the Blues were weakest in the full-back areas, and West Bromwich Albion were ruthless in capitalising on that at the Hawthorns.

In the fourth minute, a poor defensive header from Alonso landed at the feet of Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), who slid his pass across to Callum Robinson (£5.5m), who had escaped from James’ notice. He fired an effort across Willy Caballero (£4.9m) into the bottom corner, securing a third attacking return in as many matches for Pereira.

“I didn’t blame the players, I stated the facts on the clear mistakes that led to the goals. It is always going to be difficult in a game like this. It is not a tactical moment, it is a turnover in possession which we spoke about before.” – Frank Lampard

It may also be a little while until Silva adds much-needed stability to Chelsea’s backline as he slipped and gifted possession to Robinson for the third goal. It was Alonso who lost Bartley for the third goal, although it was poor awareness from James that played the West Bromwich Albion defender onside.

“Thiago Silva is going to be fantastic for us. He has been incredible in his career and absolutely, I will not look at him. I can talk about the mistakes, they are clear and I am open and honest about that. We are a team but we have to react around that and, to be fair, the team did in the second half. But, there is nothing on Thiago, I am sure he will stand up and say it was a mistake. But other than that, I thought he was pretty faultless in the game.” – Frank Lampard

Chelsea were much more secure with Azpilicueta coming on at left-back and they should have Edouard Mendy (£5.0m) in goal by the time they face Crystal Palace. Chelsea traditionally more porous in away games, having conceded 42 goals in 21 road trips since the start of last season, more than any other Premier League side since the start of last season. Although the Eagles might not be the best side to face at home right now, as Roy Hodgson’s men have recently developed a propensity for frustrating top-six sides on their own turf.

Meanwhile, the quality of James’ attacking contributions were not quite up to his usual standard at the Hawthorns.

His best pass arrived at the foot of Abraham in the 11th minute, which the striker skied horribly, but aside from that, James’ delivery was all about quantity and not quality. While he fired in a slew of crosses into the box all night, against a three-man defence, he struggled to find his team-mates too often.

Furthermore, James’ delivery from corners was also rather substandard, Chelsea offering much more in that department once Mount took over responsibility for them. As has been mentioned before, James is likely to lose corners and indirect free-kicks from his locker as soon as Ziyech returns to fitness anyway.

West Bromwich Albion XI (5-4-1): Johnstone; C Townsend, O’Shea, Bartley, Ajayi, Furlong; Diangana (M Phillips 74′), Sawyers, Livermore, M Pereira (Field 90+1′); C Robinson (Robson-Kanu 66′).

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): Caballero; Alonso (Azpilicueta 46′), T Silva (Giroud 73′), Christensen, R James; Kovačić (Hudson-Odoi 46′), Kanté; Werner, Havertz, Mount; Abraham.

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  1. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    No way I'd WC this week, which I see many are doing, wait another GW until the IB and get one more week's data!
    Learn from us disappointed GW3 wildcarders!

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Too late 😆

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        haha, well in that case GL 😉

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks buddy !

    2. Rolls-Royce
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Agree with this. Definitely wait for IB due to possible injuries, covid, etc

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        exactly and I'm sorry that I didn't do just that!

        1. Rolls-Royce
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I WCed but not too disappointed. Still content with my team and also built up some TV. Just takes one good GW to change it all.

          1. jia you
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Same mate, I didn't go triple City attack and double Wolves defence for one GW...hopefully a dramatic improvement from both teams in coming GWs! I also went triple Everton attack which I'm content with short term!

            1. Rolls-Royce
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Pretty sure they'll come good. Everton are even looking great for long term. Content with Dinge and DcL atm

    3. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Rolled the dice this week already and don’t regret it... yet.

  2. Rolls-Royce
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Noob question: how many seasons history is needed to get into HOF rankings?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      0 or 1.

      0 means you only have this season's points so start near last.

      1. Rolls-Royce
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I had 1 season history with my new account last year but can't see in the rankings

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Hasn't been updated for this season yet.

          1. Rolls-Royce
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Ah okay makes sense.
            What's the last GW to join for LMS TM?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              GW18

          2. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Thank god for that!! 😀

  3. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who needs to go first?

    a. egan
    b. davies

    For who?

    a. lamptey
    b. justin
    c. castagne
    d. james
    e. coleman

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Davies >> Lamptey

    2. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Davies for Lamptey or Castagne.

    3. Offs!de
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Egan
      For Castagne

      1. shiraz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I would say c, though i alreadyhave lamp.

    4. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Davies to Castagne

  4. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Revised WC penalty taking team!!….now have 7

    Martinez / Button
    TAA / Castagne / Lamptey / Dunne / Mitchell
    Fernandes / Salah / KDB / Klich / Soucek
    Mitrovic / Maupay / Richarlison

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I'm sticking with 6 + DCL 😉

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, was just messing around with the penalty takers but quite liking the above!!

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Same Midfield as you mentioned apart from Soucek. 4.5m in my team atm.

          Ings DCL Maupay the strikers.

          1. Roy Rovers
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            1 mill ITB if I downgrade Soucek to 4.5.....any ideas on who to upgrade??…..possibly Dunne

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Ayling is ultra attacking !

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Klich haul incoming

    3. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Choices in penalty takers should also factor in how likely their team is going to be awarded them, e.g. don’t see Fulham grabbing too many chances for Mitro from the spot.

      Cue Mitro pen hat-trick next game.

    4. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Fulham have to get into the box to get a pen 😉
      But it's seriously not a bad idea to go down that route if the officials continue to take this approach!

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I could upgrade Mitro with the 1 ITB.

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Up to you but I'd prefer Wilson....probably not a lot in it though tbf

    5. shiraz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      19 with taa left to deliver

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Damn good squad. Better than mine 🙁

  5. Puntillimon
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Would you do son to mahrez for a -4?

    Mahrez would play ahead of soucek then

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No I’d just play souc, city look disjointed and without that rocket mahrez had zero other shots in the box.

      1. Puntillimon
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks! Leeds defence may be a different prospect though. May be worth considering

    2. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yep

  6. Nutella
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who takes penalties for Wolves?

    1. Puntillimon
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jimenez

    2. Slitherene
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jiminus

    3. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jimenez

  7. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Have 1.6 to either get a 4th def, 5th mid or 3fwd.

    A) Davis > Bamford / Mitrovic
    B) Bissouma > Perierra / Trossard
    C) Struijk > James / Dunne / Lamptey / Coady
    D) Save FT next week & get Zaha in as 5th mid

    McCarthy
    Saiss / Digne / Justin / Mitchell
    Salah / Son / KDB / JRod
    Werner / Richarlison

    Steer, Struijk , Bissouma , Davis

    1. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Think Zaha is a trap. Would do either B with Trossard or C with Lamptey.

  8. Bielsa Murderball
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Whats your score this GW ?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Same as your username.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      20(-4)
      Salah Taa VVD Mitro to go

      Why ?? You wanted to have a laugh ? 😀

    3. H.E. Pennypacker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      25 w/ VVD n Salah to play.

    4. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      26 (-4) with Salah, TAA and Mitro to play.

    5. Puntillimon
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      25 with salah(c) trent robbo and Mitro to go. I’m not expecting much with Alisson out

    6. Bielsa Murderball
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Needed some company... got only 12 points 🙁

      1. Bleh
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Chin up, not been a great gameweek for most. Long way to go.

    7. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      33(-4) with TAA, Robbo and Salah to come.

    8. Rolls-Royce
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      25 with Martinez, Robbo and Salah to go.

      Can Martinez save WCers for the second GW running?

    9. shiraz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      19 with taa left to deliver

    10. The-Red-1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      My WC team is 13 points less than my old team!

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Mine is roughly 30 points down. Embarrassing. Sold Vardy for Jimenez in Fanteam 😀

    11. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      22 with Salah C, Trent and Robbo. Expecting a solid 60 total.

      1. Puntillimon
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Sure hope so!

    12. BrutalLogiC
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      15
      90 total after 3gws and WC played

      1. Puntillimon
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Brutal

      2. kobewan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        21 with Salah, TAA and Mitrovic

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Bloody hell - I thought I had it bad.

    13. lugs
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      45 with just Martinez to play

    14. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      25 post subs with Salah VVD and Martinez

    15. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      26 with Salah and Martinez

    16. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      34(-4) with just Robbo to go

    17. PhoggyRatherGroggy
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I thought I would log in and make everyone feel a little better about themselves. It’s been a while but I figured I wouldn’t have a better week then this! WC burnt on 7, yes that is SEVEN. Expecting a Salah red card as I have him captained. Never seen it in all my years, almost want under 10 for the week at this point. I’m beyond being angry and have found it comical at this point!

      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Have a knighthood. Arise, Sir Phoggyrathergroggy!

        1. PhoggyRatherGroggy
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Why thank ya kind Sir! I’ve been hoping for knighthood if and when I ever stopped lurking and got around to posting...been seeing you on here rising the dead, it’s a great service your doing

    18. Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      15 with 3 to play. And 3 coming off the bench.

    19. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      17
      #OR 5,374,637
      😀

      1. Netters2018
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        13 with 3 to go (martinez vvd salah)
        Coady -1 saiss 0 kdb (c) 4 son 1 zaha 1 wood 2 jimi 0 dcl 6

        Horrendous gw rank 6.4m... or rank 470k to 1.7m

    20. Greasy
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      46(-4) Salah, VVD and Trent to come

    21. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      34 (-4) with Salah TAA to go

    22. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      16 w/ 3 to play, ah!

    23. CC22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      40 with TAA & Salah to go.

    24. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      35 with Martinez and Grealish left

  9. H.E. Pennypacker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Morning all.

    any recommendations?

    Son for:
    1. Mahrez
    2. Barnes
    3. Havertz
    4. Maddison
    5. Mount
    6. Pulisic
    7. j-Rod
    8. Moura
    9. Trossard.

    NB. I already have Kev DB and Foden.

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Barnes or Trossard

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers, RD.
        Tross hit the woodwork loads yesterday.
        Like the pic, Robin Friday was a crazy guy!

        1. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Ha! Glad you recognise him H.E., I was fortunate enough to see him
          play many times when I was a nipper.

          1. H.E. Pennypacker
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            those were the days!
            my first game was a Fulham home defeat to PNE, 1974.
            the Fulham LB, Jimmy Dunne, dropped his shorts and mooned at the crowd. 🙂

            1. Rasping Drive
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              😀

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      6 if declared fit. Mahrez a good option too.

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers, PP.
        Slightly nervy having 3 City players otherwise I'd go straight for Mahrez.

    3. PapaWengzz
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Ive gone Mahrez and will get Pulisic for him when he returns to full fitness

      1. PapaWengzz
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        This is in a triple up with KDB and Foden so its a risk but it could pay off!

      2. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, sir.
        Is having 3 City players too much?

        1. PapaWengzz
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Probably is, - high risk high potential reward

    4. balint84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Bruno

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, sir.
        If only I had the funds for that. got 9mill to do the trade.

    5. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Barnes

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, sir.
        I think this is the choice, and will do it now before the price drop.
        Cheers all!

    6. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      9

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers, T.O.
        I was very tempted, but went w/ Barnes in the end.

  10. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Choose one?

    A) Ings + Rashford
    B) Vardy + Mahrez/Havertz

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B, Mahrez

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    3. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    4. balint84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      a

    5. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A) set and forget will do well this season I feel (and I own neither)

    6. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B if Vardy is fit

  11. Rasping Drive
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    15 points with 3 to play after wildcarding. 3.9m OR. Every future gameweek 3, I will wear a black armband and hold a minute’s silence to commemorate this absolute sh@tshow!

    1. FPL Bond @ Twitter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I also have 15 points after WC. Old team atleast had Adams,Havertz,McCarthy etc. What to do with Son? Werner?

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I guess Son has to be the priority to take out (I have him as well - so unlucky not to get a goal yesterday). Not sure about Werner, if I had him I think the temptation to sell him for Ings would be huge.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      However many points you get the Gw do that amount of burpees every anniversary

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ha! By the looks of it I will be able to do them in my sleep.

    3. PapaWengzz
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      17 with 3 to play. Captain already played.

  12. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I had to check but my old team would've done pretty rubbish also at least:

    Old team: 32 with Auba, Trent, Robbo & Bellerin to play.

    WC team: 25 with Robbo & Martinez to play.

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Old team wins

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        easily but not a disaster

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          plus I'd have went Auba to KdB with FT so only 2pts there

        2. Tambling5
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          But you have used up your wild card....

          1. jia you
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            A wildcard is like a puppy at Christmas

            1. Tambling5
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Ho Ho....poops all over your carpet...

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just McCarthy, KWP and Ayling beats my current score.

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Rough but at least you've hope of some slight salvation if Salah & Trent haul

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Had them in old team and plenty still do. Martinez needs to be the hero.

          1. jia you
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            2 pen saves, CS & max bonus incoming 😉

            1. 1zverGGadeM
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              where is the assist?

              1. jia you
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 6 months ago

                lets not be greedy 😉

  13. balint84
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Timo to Jaminez (-4) or save? Not sure Jim worth the -4

    1. shiraz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not worth the punt, if you yourself aren't even confident in that

    2. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Wolves are still a good pick with great fixtures

  14. Zilla
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who you're replacing Son with?

    1. balint84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I did with Bruno. Should have last week instead of KDB 🙁

    2. H.E. Pennypacker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Barnes.

  15. Birds of Prey
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Does anyone know how to look up Son in the PCP? Or know when he'll drop? Thx

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son Spurs M I 30.9 £9.1m 0 19740 -89.4

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        You can always sort by price/ownership.

  16. lekkaaudisy
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Werner to Ings or Richarlison? Or just stick with him?
    Already have Jimmy and DCL

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Stick, cuz he may be your jammy punt next gw 😉

  17. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Which one?

    A. DCL + Mahrez + Zaha/Barnes
    B. DCL + Maupay + Zaha/Barnes (+2M itb to upgrade Dier to Robertson)

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. balint84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B even with only +1M and defo with barnes

  18. The Overthinker
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Would you do Werner to richarlison ?

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No if you already own DCL?

    2. Zilla
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I would. Ings good option too.

  19. Tambling5
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Will Son be price protected?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Only if red flag changes to available.

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I've never understood all this. Is it explained somewhere easy to read?!

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          This is very old but explains it a bit - https://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62623

          1. Tambling5
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Thanks...I think... scratches head... so a currently flagged red player, like Son, can only stop dropping if fit again??

  20. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Auba still in 10% of LMS teams. Probably will be their saviour.

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      With Adrian on goal, very likely 🙁

    2. PhoggyRatherGroggy
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hoping I can squeak by somehow, on 7 and it’s going to be tough! Hopefully you don’t make me league admin when deleting me this time! 😉

  21. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Best pick?

    Vardy
    Ings
    Werner
    DCL
    Richarlison

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      For how long?

      1. You've got red on you.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        It's to replace Son + Delap so longish term

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Still like DCL

  22. Tambling5
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Be interesting to see who plays for Chelsea against Spurs on Tuesday. Perhaps Chilwell gets more minutes, but be useful to see if Puli or Ziyech get any minutes.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If Chilwell stars, will Azpi go right and replace James?

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        It would seem prudent against Zaha and Townsend, but Frank seems determined to play James if possible.

  23. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sticking with my City 3. How does this look?

    Martinez
    VVD James Vinagre/ Lamptey
    Salah KDB Sterling (C) Foden Podence
    Ings DCL

    Steer Mitchell Brewster

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Podence and James (see above) may not start, leaving you short or forced to play Mitchell

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Podence had a minor issue and I think James will still play.

  24. The Red Devil
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Best son & Werner replacement-

    A- Bruno + Richarlison
    B- Mahrez + Vardy
    C- Sterling + Bamford/maupay/Wilson

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B maybe, consider Ings

  25. timawflowers
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Yay or nay for werner and son to vardy and mount?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just Son out

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Why not Barnes instead of Mount?

    3. PhoggyRatherGroggy
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Nay from me, I think there’s probably a better combo

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Could work

  26. Old Man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    What's happened to Alisson? (TAA+Robbo interest)

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Late fitness test, with Adrian in goal you can say goodbye to those CS! Auba brace incoming.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Rumours he's out today. Won't know til later.

    3. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Thank you gentlemen.

  27. tc93
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    James still a good pick?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      not for me

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      On WC? Not sure, Azpi could replace him so I'd avoid the risk. If you have him, keep him.

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Which James

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ah, I'm assuming he means Reece

    4. PhoggyRatherGroggy
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      It’s a hold on Reece but wouldn’t WC him in...James Rod looks great and is making Everton clock really well. May be the assister of the assister in stretched more often then you can stomach...Richarlison and a DCL main benefiters

  28. PocketZola
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Knees are weak, 0ft 1.9mil itb

    Should I activate the WC?

    McCarthy
    Taa tierney justin
    Salah kdb podence jrod
    Dcl werner adams

    Subs, nylan, taylor, mitchell, bisouma

    Players im considering:

    Lamptey
    Castange
    Mahrez
    Fernandez
    Ings
    Jimenez
    Martinez
    Maupay
    Pete

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hold those knees

    2. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure it's necessary. Tierney back soon, Justin playing well, Just change Podence and possibly Adams with 1.9 to play with.

      1. PocketZola
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        True, I fell for the jrod trap hes good but played deep

    3. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Wait for IB

  29. BurnMyBread
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    It's looking quite likely that Aouar will join Arsenal. How much do you think he'll cost?

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      6M, who knows. I'm more interested in how much better he makes Auba look, especially if Arsenal move to 4ATB.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      6.5m

      1. PocketZola
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        At least 7.5 they love to over price arse, look at pepe

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          You blame FPL for Pepe's price? Not the club for chucking so much at him?

          1. PocketZola
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            I blame raul gerbillini and his dodgy agent deals

  30. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    How did Barnes look yesterday?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      very good

    2. PhoggyRatherGroggy
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Promising as usual, got in some good areas and driving with the ball