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5 August 2013 4351 comments
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While the media spotlight continues to shine firmly on a certain Welshman, Andre Villas-Boas has added to the Tottenham ranks with the acquisition of Roberto Soldado from Spanish outfit Valencia. Having passed a medical, the 28-year-old arrives at White Hart Lane for a club-record fee of around £26m and is the third player to sign up this summer, following Paulinho and Nacer Chadli to the club.

The History

A product of the Real Madrid youth academy, Soldado – in a similar situation to Chelsea’s Juan Mata – was rarely given a chance to establish himself as a regular at the Bernabeu. His career began back in 2002, where over the period of four seasons playing for Madrid’s “B” team Castilla, he notched 64 goals in 120 league matches. Farmed out on loan to Osasuna in 2006, Soldado produced 11 goals in 30 appearances but returned to his parent club once again the following year and, by the time he left for Getafe in 2008/09 for a mere €4m, had been handed a mere 16 first-team appearances by Madrid, finding the net on a couple of occasions.

With regular game time under his belt, Soldado quickly set about becoming one of the most lethal marksmen in the Spanish top-flight. Over two seasons at Getafe, he notched 29 goals and four assists in 60 matches, despite 11 of those appearances arriving from the bench – his exploits caught the eye of Valencia, with the club snapping him up as a €10m replacement for David Villa.

Soldado’s three-year tenure at the Mestalla was a hugely successful period as he demonstrated a consistency of scoring which is sure to make him a Fantasy favourite. His first term, back in 2010/11, harvested 18 goals and three assists from 34 matches, while the following year saw him produce 17 goals and three assists in 32 appearances. His final season in La Liga turned out to be Soldado’s most prolific, though, with 24 strikes and four assists from 35 league games highlighting his attacking potential. From a disciplinary point of view, he did have a penchant for picking up yellow cards, however, earning 49 cautions over the previous five domestic campaigns.

On the international stage, Soldado has represented his country at every youth level from Under 15 to Under 21, scoring 25 times in 41 appearances, and has also turned out for the senior side on 11 occasions, with six goals to his name.

The Prospects

A classic style centre-forward, the five foot eleven Soldado is adept with both feet, strong in the air and possesses a mobility and intelligence of movement which is always able to buy him a yard or two breathing space against the most diligent of man-markers. Being a penalty-box-predator-type, he rarely drops deep, though, and has a tendency to play on the shoulder of the final defender, utilising a decent turn of pace to gain an advantage.

If he brings his La Liga form to the table, the Spaniard’s arrival at White Hart Lane looks set to give Fantasy managers a bona fide frontline option in the season ahead, with the chances of spot-kick duties also looking likely. Villas-Boas’ preferred lone striker system – whether it be a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 this time out – will surely see Soldado as the main man up front for the north London outfit, with Emmanuel Adebayor and Jermain Defoe likely to rely on game time from the bench as back-up.

While Gareth Bale’s heroics saved Tottenham time and again in 2012/13, Adebayor (25 games, five goals) and Defoe (34 games, 11 goals) were far from prolific, with the club a little too reliant on the Welshman’s talents from one Gameweek to the next. Soldado’s arrival is expected to remedy that and bearing in mind Adebayor and Defoe are priced at 8.0 and 8.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) respectively, a ceiling of 9.5 looks likely for the Premier League debutant.

Granted, if Bale stays, it’ll take a brave Fantasy manager to overlook the Welshman but an eye-catching run of opening fixtures will also bring Soldado immediately onto the Fantasy radar. Home games against Swansea, Norwich, West Ham and Hull, allied with trips to Palace, Cardiff and Villa in the opening nine Gameweeks, affords the Spaniard the perfect platform to get quickly off the mark, with his goal-getting ability likely to persuade many a Fantasy manager to scramble aboard the early-season bandwagon. Those who don’t subscribe to the notion of “coverage” could well be looking to double up should Bale remain, while those unwilling to invest in more than one premium player per side will surely turn to the new boy as their Tottenham attacking coverage if the Welshman does decide to depart these shores.

Further Reference

Roberto Soldado Wikipedia

Roberto Soldado Transfer Markt Page

Roberto Soldado YouTube 2012/13 Highlights

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  1. Is Coutinho really worth it?
    Sangfroid
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    The curious case of Phillipe Coutinho

    So, the FPL prices were released and one of the most hotly anticipated prices was that of Phillipe Coutinho, Liverpool's 21 year old creative midfielder. After a very impressive few months since signing for Liverpool, people have been both excited by him as a player and as an FPL prospect.
    When we all discovered he was going to cost us 9m, a lot of us were a little shocked...not to mention a bit shaken.

    If we look at similar players in Coutinho's price range you have:

    Michu - 18 goals last season. Proven goalscorer and last season's surprise package.
    Gerrard - 10 goals and 12 assists last season. A proven PL performer who also has penalties in his locker.
    Silva - Despite an underwhelming season last season, the creative Spaniard is still highly rated and his involvement means his price is still of an elite nature.

    So FPL have decided to take no risks, they see Coutinho's potential and have evaluated him as equal to these guys in 'potential'. That's a hell of a call. These guys are experienced FPL performers comparatively.

    So let's assess the situation a bit more. Why is Coutinho worth 9m according to FPL? And furthermore, why is he worth 9m to more than 20% of FPL managers currently?

    Well here are the facts:

    Coutinho has made 13 appearances for Liverpool so far scoring 3 goals and 5 assists (7 FPL assists) in the process. He made his debut as a late sub in a 2-0 loss against WBA.

    His second game went very well. He scored his first goal in a 5-0 romp against Swansea. It must be noted however that this was an understrength Swansea team on the verge of a LC final.

    His next game, he was once again impressive. He got 2 assists as Liverpool went on to hammer Wigan 4-0.

    His next game he was taken off early against Spurs.
    The following game he scored again with a rebound but Liverpool went onto lose against Soton 3-1.

    He then continued his fine start with an assist against Villa.

    Blanks followed against Chelsea, Reading and West Ham. Liverpool began to struggle to score goals.

    Then came the 6-0 demolition of Newcastle, Coutinho was heavily involved again, yet came away with only a single assist to show for it.

    Another 0-0 followed against Everton. But Coutinho was able to help Sturridge on his way to a hat-trick against Fulham. The final day of the season saw Coutinho complete his 13th game and score the winner against already relegated QPR.

    Ok, so Coutinho looks like an exciting prospect and had a fantastic start to his Liverpool career. But this is 13 games we are talking about. And in those games, Coutinho mainly performed against weaker opposition (Swansea's depleted team, Wigan's shambolic defence, QPR's already relegated deflated side)

    Is this guy really worth 9m already after that? Gerrard has consistently performed over a decade, Silva has been doing what Coutinho has been doing for a longer time and is more experienced. Michu is a proven goalscorer who has pedigree. Can Coutinho match these guys going by this brief, albeit bright start to his career in England?

    That remains to be seen. I, for one, will remain skeptical until he shows he's worth my money over other proven 'elite' attackers.

    And when you consider that Sturridge is the same price, who are you going to trust more for goals? And let's say Suarez is back GW6. Do you even want a 9m Liverpool midfielder?

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      When Suarez is back from his ban, and still a Lpool player, Coutinho gotta go for me to make a place for Suarez. I think that Suarez, if stays in England, will be more important than RVP thos season

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    2. theloveburglar
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      couldnt agree more the kid has immense potential but alot more to prove in my eyes to justify such a price tag

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    3. JT's Dog
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Could easily be reversed to say
        Gerard, but old now and won't play as much, less chance of pens if the diver leaves
        Silva, really poor form recently
        Michu, 2nd season syndrome, defenders will know his style now

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      • AriseSirGiggsy
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Some good points here, especially rearing Gerrard perhaps being the better option with his set pieces, game time and bonus potential - and just when I'd pencilled Coutinho in!
        Food for thought. Good post tho mate, kudos. 🙂

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      • Reedy
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        You make an excellent case against him. His returns were a bit of a mixed bag, and in general that's how I view Liverpool collectively; you never quite know what to expect. If Coutinho proves to be worth 9.0m this season then that is some excellent foresight on FPL's part, but I can't see it myself.

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      • applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        yeah his exploits so far have come pretty much in liverpool romps against relegation fodder or pre-season games against teams weaker than relegation fodder.

        i think it's a bit off to think he's a banker based on those 13 games and pre-season, the other side of that though i think you can't write him off, he's surely only going to improve with age/experience and if he does turn out to be a flat-track bully that can be a very useful FPL trait (predictable returns)

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        1. Sangfroid
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Liverpool were/are flat-track bullies at times. Coutinho got a nice share of that pie. 9m though? Not someone you can very easily slot in every now and again when the fixtures suit.

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            They have a good run to start you off. I think this [that 'pool and he do well vs weaker sides] is a good argument FOR his inclusion rather than against it.

            I don't have him, but I would take him over Gerrard or Michu until Michu's fixtures turn for the better.

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        2. AriseSirGiggsy
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I think that's a fair point - It was particularly impressive how he hit the ground running last season and improvement with experience is expected. I seem to recall his stats when Suarez wasn't playing were particularly impressive indicating his confidence to step up and take responsibility

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          1. applebonkers
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            it's natural for an attacking midfielder to improve without the most wasteful striker in europe dominating play ahead of them

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      • Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Fair question. Its his confidence on the ball that impressed me most. I think he is a mature player, in spite of his age.

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      • JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        It's a great post

        the thing for me is simple, I can't really see the logic in Coutinho for 9.0 when, besides the 3 you just listed, Sturridge is also 9.0, I'd much rather have Sturridge than Coutinho

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        1. AriseSirGiggsy
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Sturridges fitness is an issue, and he does take up 1 of only 3 striker spots

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      • Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Pre-season he has started where he left off. Swansea have tough opening fixtures so I am leaving Michu alone, but am getting Silva from the get-go.

        And Sturridge is overrated, inconsistent and injury-prone. Coutinho all the way.

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      • cheeky_ash
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Good little summation there - maybe we are all getting carried away - but he looks like a excellent talent - however on reflection I suppose it depends on whether Gerrard plays deep like the last couple of seasons (which gives licence to players like Coutinho to go forward more) or further forward - also is Gerrard 100%???

        Personally Gerrard is the safer option if fit - Regards to Sturidge - not sure he's fit Aspas - may start the first game for a cheeky punt!

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      • Spin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Coutinho = Arshavin.

        That is all...

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        1. Hazardous
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          doubt it BR is not going to start playing coutinho strike like wenger did with arshavin

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      • bikosp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Then again, if Suarez doesn't leave Sturridge and Coutinho may end up playing in the same position - both off Suarez. Then who do you choose a 9.0 Mid playing as left wing attacker or a 9.0 Attacker playing as right wingattacker?

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        1. Sangfroid
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          great point mate, that is an interesting take on things for sure. But I do think Sturridge will play mainly up top as the striker and Suarez wide. So that may change things.

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      • PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Very insightful post.

        I like the comparisons with Gerrard and think you make a good case, especially the price.

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      • 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        before i give my opinion, great article. thanks for posting.

        I do not have Coutinho in my team.
        Silva has the edge, for me, and Aspas will probably stay in my side to cover Liverpool's attacking potential until Suarez returns. That said, I reckon Couinho IS a good option at 9m to start the season.

        on the figures.
        3 appearances for Liverpool so far scoring 3 goals and 5 assists (7 FPL assists) in the process.
        - One of those 13 appearances, his first, was as a late sub.
        + 12 games (he'll be a key figure most of the season), in his debut season in the PL.
        + 3 goals
        + 7 FPL assists.

        If the PL provides 38 opportunities to play, Coutinho made less than a third of the season.
        so if we crudely multiply his stats by 2.5 to account for some missed games over a full season, we get, approx.
        30 Games
        8 Goals
        19 Assists

        Add to that, the fact he plays in a side whose style is suited to the new BPS, while his role is one which will benefit from the shift too (eg Cazorla, a tidy passer in the attacking third).

        Now we are looking at a 9m player.

        Personally, i think the guys at FPL have got his price spot on.
        I saw that assist vs villa at Villa Park. He was outstanding and the pass was quite exquisite.

        And yes, many of the games in which he performed well were against weaker opposition.
        THIS IS A GOOD SIGN. Liverpool have a run of these fixtures to start them off!

        Now here's food for thought...
        Coutinho will have a nice little opening 6. Michu has a nice little run from GW 6-10.
        If one were to start with Coutinho, who is likely to be successful in the opening weeks, thus price rise, and transfer to Michu (who may drop as a result of people swapping for Phillipe) for his nice little run, you might just be a few quid better off AND have the pick of the 9m midfield for the first half of the season.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          But the main point was that the goals/assists he got last season was against easy opponents. He wasn't so successful against top 8 sides.

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Did you finish reading my post?

            "And yes, many of the games in which he performed well were against weaker opposition.
            THIS IS A GOOD SIGN. Liverpool have a run of these fixtures to start them off!"

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        2. Sangfroid
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Hmmm, I see what you are saying and thank you for replying. You make a good argument too FOR him. And believe me, I've no doubt the boy has the ability to get some massive attacking returns. But my problem is that I actually don't believe Liverpool have that rosy a start to the season. Stoke Villa and Man Utd. They only beat one of these teams ONCE last season. They lost to Stoke and drew at home. And even lost to Villa at home. And Man utd speaks for itself.

          I'm sure he could be a 9m midfielder but what puts me off is his youth, the fact he may not always 90 minutes and the fact that other guys in his price range are a bit more proven. For all we know Coutinho might have flaws we've yet to see. I don't mean that he is not as good as he looks but more as an FPL asset. He looks like he could be a major asset but I think we still need more time and stats to really assess his worth. So I'm not doubting he could become a 9m mid, I'm just skeptical whether he is for me worth that money over all the other options to start the season. And is he even the right guy to have from Liverpool! 🙂

          I do though think that Coutinho will drop in price inevitably as he has high ownership and if he isn't ultra consistent I can see a fair few selling for the likes of Michu sooner rather than later.

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            He is an interesting FPL player. Incredible potential but we've only had him for a snapshot of his early career.

            The problem the FPL guys faced in pricing him is this:

            If Coutinho were 8m or less, he'd be in nearly every dream team.
            At 8.5m hes going to be in most.
            At 9m he still made the template, so a very popular choice, even for the more astute FPL managers.
            At 9.5m he wouldn't get a look in vs Hazard or Walcott.

            I think they nailed his price tag.

            But as i said, I'm going for Silva and i'll use Aspas as my route to Liverpool's frontline until players settle and i find out who is essential.

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            1. Sangfroid
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Very interesting take on things. I am really glad this post got highlighted so I could return and read these views on Coutinho, most of all I wanted to hear what others thought.

              And I think you are absolutely spot on here. They have priced him so that it is tricky to decide what to make of him.

              But for me, while FPL have been clever, I don't think I'll fall so easily for this trap. What they have done essentially is make Coutinho an elite midfielder on the back of those 13 games. Maybe they are right and he is an elite midfielder now. But maybe they are also fooling people into thinking he matches the likes of Michu over a season. Maybe he doesn't and maybe Michu is the pick once again. After all, 9m is a lot for one player, you want to get it right and you want that player to be reliable. I feel confident with Walcott and Hazard for instance. Coutinho @ 9m makes me nervous. If he was 7.5-8.5m like you say. Maybe then you could feel ok about 'giving him some time'

              But at that price you have HUGE expectations. And that is why I'm trying to separate the hype from the facts.

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      • Steve_2011
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Surely in general players would perform much better against worse opponents (more likely to score a few goals an therefore more points to go around) to me coutinho is only an option till suarez comes back, will more than likely play central until then but it seems like they plan on playing sturridge up top with Suarez just behind. Gerrard offers better long term potential IMO, If he stays fit he pretty much guanentees you 10 goals and 10 assists along with benefitting massively from the new bonus system. If he does get injured then easy enough to get coutinho.

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      • TexanRed
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        This is a great article and thats coming from a Liverpool fan with Coutinho in my team. I think many of us had an eye on him and I for one was really hoping that he would slip under the radar and come it at just 8.0m but on reflection I think that 8.5m would have been a fair price......but having said that I expected the likes of Silva, Walcott and Hazard to all come it at an extra 0.5m more than they have and so now the competition is insanely fierce at that sub 10m level.

        I think that much of his current ownership relates to his storming pre-season, Sturridge's potential injury and of course Suarez's ban and transfer speculation. But in my opinion he will have a great season and start to get even more FPL rewards from those great performances that he will take over a lot of Stevie G's set piece responsibilities as the season progresses.

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      • zøphar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        excellent post, i concur that he's overpriced.

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      • thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Silva over Coutinho at the moment for me.

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      • Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Wow. Terrific post, great contribution to the site.

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        1. Dr. Rog
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          great post.

          Silva/Michu > Coutinho.

          I think he should be 8.5, on a par with where Kagawa should be (who is good value at 8)

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I think certainty of game time puts him above Kagawa. If the two were priced equally, it'd be Couts over Kags every time.

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      • JELLYFISH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Perhaps instead of concluding that FPL have over priced Coutinho this season perhaps folk might like to consider that what FPL actually did is massively under value hm last season. Decent article btw.....

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    4. Demí
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Fulham starting XI v Real Betis: Stekelenburg; Riether, Hangeland (c), Amorebieta, Richardson; Dejagah, Sidwell, Boateng, Ruiz; Rodallega, Berbatov

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        That is very similar to last time.
        Is Riise injured?

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Doesn't seem he's an assured starter anymore. On the bench though.

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          1. Sánchez
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Shame his spot isnt being filled by a 4.0n defender.

            Amborieta looking safe enough though.

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            1. Sánchez
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              I'm calling him that whatever his name is

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        2. Hazardous
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          he was dropped towards end of last season

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      2. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        full strength near enough

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      3. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        They have the makings of a decent side there, just need a creative CM and a striker

        Bent and Taarabt anyone?

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Think Bent would be bad for them, as it means Berbatov drops. I think Fulham fans prefer him up top, where he's finishing the moves off. Thing is he rarely gets injured, so you don't massively need a back up for him. Just stick him upfront, and give him decent support in central midfield/wide areas and watch the goals flow. The taarabt bid is odd, maybe he'd be competition for Ruiz and another player who can play wide. Don't think he'll improve the side though.

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I agree on Bent, plus it lessens Berba's FPL appeal, but Jol has stated that Berba is carrying too much of the goalscoring load.

            The central midfield is still lacking. Boateng is an improvement on what they had but Sidwell, is..well, Sidwell. You may scoff but if he has no future at United someone like Anderson could actually be good fit for Fulham

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      4. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Looks like a first choice XI
        Glad to see he's playing a proper striker ahead of Berbatov - I thought ha his partnership with Ruiz didn't really work well for Fulham consistently. Good for them both fantasy-wise but it contributed to an underwhelming season for Fulham IMHO

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    5. The Petr Cech Option
      Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      THE PETR CECH OPTION

      Is Cech a viable option for anyone?

      + Cech and Toure is £0.5m cheaper than the Mignolet and Cole/Ivan/Luiz partnership.
      + More flexibility for Week 3. You don't have to transfer him out as long as you've got a decent back-up.
      + He is nailed on. Who can we rely on in the Chelsea defence to start both matches? Probably just Cech and Cole. Terry, Ivanovic, Luiz, Cahill, Azpilicueta.... all of them are a bit risky.
      - Despite the cost saving mentioned above, you do need a back-up keeper for week 3 which will cost you at least £4.5.
      - You'll probably want to transfer Cech out eventually anyway, which is just delaying the transfer.
      - His price could fall in GW3 so you'll be tempted to get him out quickly so no different to owning a defender.
      + Having said that, you'll probably be transferring out a Chelsea defender before week 3. Possibly for a hit. Possibly not. If there is a saving to be made, and he is absolutely nailed on, why not make it Cech?
      + Cech scored more points than all Chelsea defenders last season. He's less likely to get a goal, assist or bonus points, but also less likely to get a yellow card than the Chelsea defenders. And there's always the chance of a penalty save.
      + Cech played more minutes than all Chelsea defenders last season. Points per minute? Well he's better than Ashley Cole. There's not a lot in it.

      Player - Points - Minutes - Points Per Minute
      Terry - 66 - 950 - 0.0695
      Ivanovic - 143 - 2945 - 0.0486
      Luiz - 122 - 2632 - 0.0464
      Azpilicueta - 100 - 2199 - 0.0455
      Cech - 144 - 3195 - 0.0451
      Cole - 121 - 2790 - 0.0434
      Cahill - 94 - 2219 - 0.0424

      He's in my team. Originally I had Mignolet and Boruc. Will probably change Cech to Mignolet at some point. He seems like a better option than Cole, and I'm saving half a million as well. What's everyone else thinking?

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        No. He's not viable.

        Too expensive by far for a goalkeeper and wastes a Chelsea slot. You also don't want to spend transfers on goalkeepers. It's either go with Mignolet and 4.0 or switch to Boruc - Marshall or another comparable pair.

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        1. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          How is a transfer on a goalkeeper any different to a transfer on a defender? Or are you not having a Chelsea defender?

          It's exactly the same as having a Chelsea defenders, in my eyes, except you get the extra flexibility of a spare outfield slot. And a bit cheaper than my Mignolet/Cole pairing.

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            It doesn't quite work that way. It's different, trust me.

            The fact you have 5 defenders gives you flexibility to change funds around fluidly. You may even have to lose all the big defenders.

            Goalkeepers are much more difficult to move, with less up side. You've got to find a steady pair to last a few weeks.

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            1. Jairzinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              My steady pair should be Mignolet and Boruc. Cech and Boruc works well for the first few weeks as well. I know it's a bit of a ball-ache transfer to do. One that you would make only if you have no other transfers to make that could possibly improve your side. But I can't really see how it's much different to transferring a defender.

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            2. Jönny
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Goalkeepers are more difficult to move psychologically, but in fact there's no reason why they should be a less profitable move than a defender, unless you're bringing someone in with consistent attacking potential.

              Get what you mean, but I think it's an example of short term thinking.

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        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Also, for what it's worth, I am now no longer a Mignolet owner. The way I see it, there's a very good chance I'll want two Liverpool attackers at some point. If Toure is such a bargain at 5.0 and starts every game, he's got to be picked which means I can't get all 3 LPools unless I lose Mignolet.

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          1. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Off topic, but do you expect Toure to start every game? 10 league starts for City last season. 32 years old. He's my biggest worry in this Cech plan. I personally think Mignolet is a much better option that Kolo Toure. If he can nail down a place though, then I'll be on him.

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            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Yes. He'll start. If they ship Skrtel which looks possible, he'll be even more nailed on.

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        3. zøphar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Having a 4.0 non-playing GK is just silly camzy. I disagree here, I think cech is an excellent option season long, given mourinhos penchant for clean sheets

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        like it. i think 1 cech save point will 9 times out of 10 be enough to beat ashley cole's dgw score. if you're on a 2 goalkeeper strategy it makes sense as like you say him not playing gw3 puts less strain on your team than an outfield guy not playing. people thinking about a 4.0 keeper + a bigger keeper it's harder to justify

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      3. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He's definitely an option since nailed-on Chelsea starters are so thin on the ground. But it's better to start with Migs to begin with if you can I reckon, since the eventual downgrade is inevitable. A lot will depend on individual team balance I guess.

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        1. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I understand that. But the same argument can be made for any Chelsea defender. Having Cole, having Terry, having Ivanovic. Whoever. I think 90% of people on here are planning on getting them out by week 3.

          So why not just make that a goalkeeper? And maybe you can delay that inevitable transfer for a few weeks without it costing you a slot. Plus you'll have a decent defensive option in week 3.

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          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Of course but with defenders, there's the chance you could jump onto an emerging bandwagon instead, whereas transferring Cech out will only ever lead to Migs in. It's a small point admittedly, but who knows who could come to the fore in GW1? Could even be a scramble for Kolorov 😉

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          2. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Options. There are a ton more options and you can save money.

            The plan for me is to downgrade on Luiz (if he's my Chelsea starter). The thing is, I have so many choices. My initial plan is to get City, but if Tottenham or Arsenal get going, I have cheap options there to pick up.

            If I wanted to do the same for Cech, I would have options but wouldn't save much money and only have the one keeper who I might not want long term.

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          3. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Your post below explains your point a bit better.

            I can see where you're coming from. I'll sleep on this Cech decision then, but for me the pros outweigh the cons.

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            1. Jairzinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Sorry - reply fail to your above post!

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          4. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            The benefit of having a defender is the potential for attacking points, which you don't have with Cech. Cech only scored 7 or 8 pts in last years DGW; Ivanovic on the other hand was a beast because of his goals/assists.

            I am hoping (desperately?) that Cole will do an Ivanovic this year, but judging by his recent bedroom exploits, he's likely to be too shagged out.

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      4. marash
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Evening all, new member here, can anyone please tell me how to get a grav? thanks.

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        1. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Welcome to the site, Marash.

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/fantasy-football-faq-and-glossary/
          How do I get a picture next to my name when I post a comment?
          Head on over to http://www.gravatar.com and register for an account (make sure you register with the same email as the one you are registered with here). Choose an image, and this will be associated with all of your comments on site. Your gravatar image should appear next to your comments within roughly 24 hours.

          Cheers. And it shouldn't take as long as 24 hours.

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          1. marash
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks for that Jairzihno, only discovered the site a couple weeks ago and think it's great, so much info and opinion, can't wait for the season to start!

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      5. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Nice post.

        The problem with the goalkeeper position is that you're banking on them having a clean sheet. At least with the defenders, you have a chance of an assist and/or goal.

        Yes, there's still the chance with the goalkeeper, but unlikely.

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        1. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          peno save 😉

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          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            ....from an aging Terry or clumsy Ivan or headless Cahill or sideshow bob....

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        2. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Yep - but as I explained with my points per minute, there really isn't too much in it. Defenders don't score or assist that many. Chances are the one you choose will do neither. And they have a higher chance of a booking.

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          1. BossBrolin
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            You are spot on here. More often than not keepers outscore their teams defenders. The chance of goals and assists is highly overrated around here.

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      6. FantaCity
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I think you're quite right - I see no difference transferring out a keeper as against a defender, and they come with their own replacement cover at no cost. Risk-free in my view - you may lose a small amount of cash, but that's gonna be true with most of the CHE players that people don't want to keep past GW3 - stick with it 😉

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      7. TexanRed
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I made this very same point earlier in the week and strangely got exactly the same responses from different managers that you don't want to transfer a keeper..........I was as baffled as you as to the real effect of it being any different to transferring a defender!

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      8. Four Four Boyz
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I woke up this morning intent on posting something similar about Cech. Wouldn't have gone into quite the same detail though, so well done. He is in my team and will be out when deemed necessary (probably for Mignolet, or a 4.0 mill keeper if they are getting starts).

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        1. Twelve years a slave
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Cech has the advantage that you can have 4 double gameweek players and still remove enough to field a team in gw3
          So for those intending Lukaku and Benteke , Cech is a better option than a Chelsea defender
          If only planning on three DGW players then it probably best to go with a defender

          Hope this helps

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          1. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I still think Cech has an advantage with 3 DGW players in case something goes wrong with another player.

            For example:

            Dzeko gets rotated
            Sturridge gets injured
            Aspas is out of favour
            Kaboul returns from injury forcing Dawson out
            Kim isn't what we thought he would be
            Cattermole gets suspended
            Remy gets sentenced

            Cech is a safe option. If worst comes to worst, we can leave him in there for a few more weeks without having to take a hit or wildcard. He'll keep clean sheets, especially under Mourinho.

            Once everything starts to smooth out, you can transfer him to another keeper without taking a hit. Might be week 3 if you're lucky. Might be week 6 if you're not. But you have the ability to catch those bandwagons and throw away those broken wagons without having to worry about 3 outfielders not having a fixture.

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            1. Twelve years a slave
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              your right , maybe i should do the same , and stick with uber defence

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      9. 1mills
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I've personally got Cech in and thinking he's the one to have for the season, but just not 100% convinced on the overall spend for a keeper.

        Rotation has always done pretty good in value terms, but there doesn't seem to be great value amongst the options this year as there has been previously.

        Would think Chelsea are going to be tighter again this year under Mourinho.

        Of all the defensive options, they've even admitted that Cole has injury problems that now have to be managed I believe? So thinking that's the route I'm going, but haven't convinced myself. I'm sure I'll get excited at some point downgrading Cech and upgrading elsewhere............

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        1. Twelve years a slave
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Let me throw a curve ball

          IS Chech really nailed on?

          I know that normally he is but i wouldnt be too suprised if he gave Schwarzer one of those games , just to give him a competitive debut. He has been playing his share of pre season games

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    6. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      LINE-UP: West Ham United: Jaaskelainen, O'Brien, Taylor, Tomkins, Reid, Noble, Morrison, Nolan, Cole, Jarvis, Maiga

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        SUBS: Adrian, Potts, Rat, Demel, Ruddock, Collins, Diame, Lletget, Lee

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      2. Got grey hair
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        No Collins?

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        1. Sangfroid
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          😯

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        2. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          bench... they have game tomorrow too

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        3. Jönny
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Demel, Rat and Diame also benched. Calm down dear, it's only a friendly.

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      3. Smarty Pants
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        and the collins bandwagon has just derailed 🙂

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      4. Henry Hill
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I'm half thinking as bringing in Ravel Morrison as my 5th MF, anyone agree?

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        1. Xhaka Kahn't
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Yep he's my 5th mid. Not totally sure about it though.

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    7. The do's and don'ts of FPL
      Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I started writing this post a couple hours ago then got sidetracked by work. Yeah, work is a distraction 😀 But anyhow, here it is.

      What works in FPL from experience (some which might not be applicable this season):
      - Getting at least 3 DGWers each DGW
      - Picking cheap rotating goalies
      - Picking 4.0 bench fodder from promoted clubs
      - Having 3 bona fide captains (RVP, Bale, Suarez)
      - Doubling in defense on good fixtures
      - Doubling in attack on high potential players (Bale + Van der Vaart)
      - Playing 3-4-3
      - Splashing the cash on the front 8
      - Choosing team talismans over 2nd best players from better teams (i.e. Snodgrass over Ramsey/Wilshere)
      - Taking early hits/getting on bandwagons at the start of the season (broad, but even if they don't perform, they raise team value)
      - Playing wildcard early (again, situational, but I've found it works. Last year, the winner used his GW 2)
      - Captaining one of the top 3 picks from the weekly captain poll (RvP if undecided)
      - Using TotalFPL or Fiso to keep track of price changes

      What doesn't work in FPL (again, some may not be applicable this season)
      - Playing 4 defenders regularly
      - Having expensive goalies
      - Having non-playing cheap players (Ferguson springs to mind - they lose value and are deadweight)
      - Staying with off-form players because their fixtures get better
      - Making transfers early in the week (injuries do happen and muck things up)
      - Waiting until the very last minute to make transfers (do them Friday night)
      - Choosing players based on popularity (not really a problem on here)
      - Planning transfers more than 3 weeks in advance (almost never pans out, not really a case of it not working, but it's wasted effort)
      - Making starting probability/fitness a decisive factor over points potential(I remember the first year I played seriously, I captained Drogba first week even though he was "an injury risk" and he hit a hat-trick. Last year, I got hurt by it. I picked Cole over Ivanovic because he was more nailed on. Ended up 12 points worse off after just 1 week)
      - Picking players for coverage (sometimes you've got to avoid that burst of nice fixtures from Everton because they are just in terrible form)
      - Picking differentials because you need to make up ground (this is controversial, but I firmly believe that unless there are less than 3 weeks to go, you can make up any number of points with smart, logical transfers and some luck with the captains armband. If you need a differential, use the armband not your players)

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      2. .
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        What's with all the "beginners guide to FPL" posts lately?

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        1. .
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          +1 though, good post regardless

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        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          +1 wish he would stfu and stop educating people!!

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          1. .
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            😆

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          2. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Haha some of the "don'ts" in this post I think might lead to some interesting discussion.

            I know there are members here who would oppose me on quite a number of those.

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            1. llamaZA
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              - Waiting until the very last minute to make transfers (do them Friday night)
              Not sure how this changes anything

              - Playing 4 defenders regularly
              Defenders are becoming much more valuable per pound - could be the new meta this season

              - Choosing players based on popularity (not really a problem on here)
              Exactly the problem on here...

              But can I just say, this one
              - Doubling in defense on good fixtures
              This one over and over again.
              I cannot tell you how much I want to punch people when I read a response to a perfectly good RMT with - you don't want 2 defenders from [xx].
              Last season if you doubled up on Stoke/West Ham rotation - you'd be doing ok...

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          3. Demí
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Telling it like it is! 🙂

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        3. GlamRock Chauffeurs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          What's with all the arrogant twonk posts lately? Oh wait, they're always here. I don't know, Long Juan, maybe because this site isn't reserved for people who have been playing the game for 4 years? You are aware that numbers playing increase every year, right? Logic therefore dictates that at least some of them are beginners, to whom beginner-oriented posts might seem quite helpful. I mean, nobody would be presuming to teach you anything since you are already incredibly knowledgeable on all matters FPL but back when you were ranking in the low 2 millions, surely a post such as the above would have proved highly beneficial to your game, no?

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          1. .
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Alright keyboard warrior, it was just something I noticed lately.The question was not meant to be arrogant in any way 🙄
            Also I wasn't an active player the first two years. Please don't judge other peoples previous ranks if you don't even have the balls to link your own.

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            1. GlamRock Chauffeurs
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Ah sure I'm only having a laugh. There are a lot of arrogant twonks on here though who tend to look down on other people's comments, strategies & RMTs so sorry if I lumped you into that crowd unfairly. I would normally link up to my profile, did last year, but forgot to do it the other day. On it.

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              1. .
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Alright buddy, no harm done 🙂

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      3. llamaZA
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        - Picking cheap rotating goalies
        Probably false this year with Mignolet coming in at 5.5 and there being no obvious 2x 4.5 rotation.

        - Having 3 bona fide captains (RVP, Bale, Suarez)
        Too expensive this season (assuming RvP and Bale both stay). We're going to have to get creative/lucky here

        - Playing wildcard early (again, situational, but I've found it works. Last year, the winner used his GW 2)
        Alternative analysis shows that the top 100 players had a higher usage in GW33 last year than those in top 10,000. One player doesn't make a sample size. Still a large number did use it in the first 3 GWs

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I always use my WC early and I'm awesome so sounds like a good strategy 🙂

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        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          (some which might not be applicable this season)

          But it's still interesting to note. Are we going to throw out some old paradigms this year?

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          1. llamaZA
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I think so

            I'm quite happy with the pricing this year. Makes things a lot more interesting. Template teams will always form, but I think there's a lot more scope to be different.

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            1. rumplestilskin
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Really !!!
              Sadly I'm still stuck with a Template of my own

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      4. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        i had my highest fpl finish buying Shane Ferguson not once but twice that season 😎

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      5. Ayling Buyers Club
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        - Making transfers early in the week (injuries do happen and muck things up)
        Thought you opposed this one? What about raising team value etc.?

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I've been burned more than I've been helped especially after last season (I bought Noble after reports he was fit again, turns out the reports later in the week ruled him out for 3 weeks. I then got rid and bought another WHam mid) It's a problem for me since I'm a kneejerker, but I'm gonna try and resist this season.

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      6. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I would add 'picking John Walters' to the things that doesn't work list. Even when he gets points, you lose a small portion of your soul.

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        1. The Mousa is Loosa
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Danny Graham can be added to the list as well

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      7. TexanRed
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        The WC early is the one that really sticks out to me. I'm in my 8th season now so maybe I am a bit old school as we didn't have the luxury of one let alone two WC's back in those days but I can only see that there are 3 good reasons to use one early. The first has only really become a strategy in the last two years thanks to Chelsea's European success and that is the DGW right off the bat. Personally I think this season with Villa's horrible fixtures its best to stay clear of them all together and you can easily get 3 Chelsea players in and then either out or safely benched come GW3 and so you don't need the WC imo, secondly is because you are a value whore and you have a huge drive to get on every bandwagon as you believe that team value is the ultimate differential, with more and more FPL managers playing every year this becomes a stronger and stronger tactic I believe as the casual players drive the market so strongly during the first few weeks but I believe this tactic can be made redundant by simply not falling into the third category as we know the casual player will ignore the DGW and that Hazard and the likes will benefit from this massively. Third Reason = YOU PICKED A BAD TEAM TO START OFF WITH and need wholesale change. So as good and well informed managers, which even if you aren't the former with some excellent wealth of knowledge that is on this forum you will soon become the latter very quickly, I don't believer that is a good tactic as there is more to gain later in the season when you really have big DGW's to take advantage of and you have so much more knowledge to use to make the choices. I still don't see how after 2-3 weeks we can really answer the important questions like starting City forwards and proven Man U midfielders any more accurately than we will be able to the Friday before the season kicks off.

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          You named 3 good reasons to WC early, and one not very good reason to WC later.

          I'll add one more into the early wagon. To streamline your team. If you WC say week 8, you get long term benefits of the WC, you can replace your cheap bench fodder and set your keepers for the season. It's little things like that. I had Jaask and Federici last year. Bad idea. So I WC'ed in week 6 or so to get Begovic at 4.5m and he came good for the rest of the season.

          I also had Danny Gabbidon who got sent off then had mixed time, replaced him with Demel who was a mainstay in my team almost the whole season.

          I also got on the Bale wagon again, picked up Suarez, and basically laid the framework for the next 20 weeks or so. The earlier you use it, the more benefit you'll see long-term imo.

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          1. TexanRed
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I would like to think that more over I named 3 good reasons not to use it early! But I guess that I will add that suspensions and critical injuries are more prevalent later in the season and so the emergency option of the WC is great to have in your locker and could make a much bigger differential if say 3-4 of the form players miss game time at crunch times of the year, a lot more so than having an extra chelsea player who may or most likely will not have play twice in a game week right off the bat.

            I still think GW6 is early but I am really talking about those who are planning to use it in GW2 or 3 of which there seem to be plenty and to which was mentioned in terms of Matt's use last season to win it all. I would really love to know what he actually thinks of his use of it and whether or not it was planned before the season started and whether or not he sees the same value in doing it again this season.

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      8. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Would you elaborate a bit on this point: "Pick cheap rotating goalies"?

        That is, do you have some numbers to support this or is more a gut feeling?

        Guess what I'm curious about, is if you're able to prove that your two 'rotating keeper's' weekly scores would have faired better than simply playing a single 'heavy hitter' throughout the year?

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          The best proof would be the total points from the likes of Begovic and Jusi last season. They both started at 4.5 and dominated all season. Rotating them would have given you the most points.

          This has often been the case in prior seasons as well.

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          1. Twelve years a slave
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I love early transfers , and especially love early transfers on a popular/bandwagon player

            Both on your dont list for some reason

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            1. garethna
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Can anyone point me to the stats on distribution of total tranfers for each gameweek in previous seasons?

              i.e. GW1 total transfers, Gw2 total transfers .... GW 26 total transfers etc

              I'm interested in possible periods (August or maybe January) when it maybe ok to take hits on points if, like me, you place too much importance on team value.

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            2. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              I agree with you on early transfers. I think they are extremely important in helping to build team value. Of course it is best to leave it as late as possible if their price is not set to rise. Keeping an eye on Fiso is key.

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      9. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not a fan of doubling in attack. I certainly don't think it is necessary as it wouldn't work every time. Ultimately you are buying two players who will have a share of the points that that team accumulates. I think it is better to stick with individual talisman's as you pointed out. That way you should get a greater share of a teams points.

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      10. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Great stuff but the new BP system will benefit def / gk

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    8. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Who is the best cheap gk to be paired with migs?
      Glad you asked.
      Looking at fixtures, migs can basically hold the line by himself between gw1 and gw17 if his understudy can take care of arsenal away (gw10) and tot away (gw16).
      If you plan a wc before gw10, and really keen on money, maybe a 4.0 can work.
      If you want someone who plays and works best on those two gws, lets look just at them in isolation, by looking at all possible 4.5 relevant gk options:

      Boruc - stoke away and newc away - not good.
      Speroni - WBA away and Chelsea away - not good
      Manone - hull away and whm away - getting better but still away games and not nailed on
      Marshall - Swansea home and WBA home - now that's more alike it - not easy teams but also not super strong and both at home. Problem is - its Marshall and his team is not a lock for cs in any game.

      The answer is surprising - mcgregor (hull) has sun eland at home and stoke at home - two teams that are not great offensively and not good away from home.
      Maybe have brayford and part instead of Chester if it burns to have to hull n the back line, but If you really plan to not deal with keepers for a long time this might be the answer.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Good post. 🙂

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      2. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        *brayford and part

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        1. Lord Flashheart
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          PARR! I hate you auto correct.

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      3. Sangfroid
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        tl;dr

        just get Hart and relax

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      4. Horizontal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Sad to say but I have Lewis in my draft team and although I don't know Marshall from Adam then I'm hoping for Marshall to pick up a minor but prolonged injury so Lewis replaces him.

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      5. The Mighty One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        This was a top notch post. Thanks!

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    9. Triggers' Spending Template
      Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Template revisited

      A few weeks ago i posted my template for expenditure on each position , thought it was time for a revisit.
      It seems to me that people are concentrating too much on who they pick . At this stage it is more important to look at the balance of the team. I feel that with Bale probably leaving, many people are spending the extra money in defence , and are in danger of having a bottom heavy team.

      Its been proven year after year that its better to spend money on the mids and strikers , it works .
      Here is my template , which if followed makes it much easier structure your team

      Keepers

      4.5 m 4.5m Basically no more than 9m spent on keepers

      Defence

      4 m 4 m 4.5 m 5m 6m Only thee to start each week (23.5m)

      Midfield

      12m 10m 7m 6.5m 4.5m This works well (40)

      Forwards

      14m 8m 5.5 m (27.5m) This will probably allow any striker in top spot

      It dosent matter if you distribute the money differently within each group. For example i may ignore Van Persie and go 9 9 9 on forwards , or something similar.

      It is fairly important not to alter too much between the groups. There are no doubt other ways to do well , but this formula has allowed me to finish in the top 1000 the last three seasons in a row

      No doubt many of you will know better 😀

      Thoughts

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      1. coriswrasse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        you wil not finish in the top 1000 again? decent structure of a team...I'm more for picking three strikers in the 7-9 range and upgrading to RVP later PERHaPs. or no HapS

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      2. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        9m
        24m
        38.5m
        25m + 3.5m cash for me(at the moment)

        Bale is the hold up at the moment.

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      3. Sangfroid
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Is that a hot topic in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

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      4. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        what about 2 budget mids and 3 expensive defs?

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        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        9.5
        25.5
        39.5
        25.5

        Agreed.May be coz of Chelsea DGW,I have spent a lil more in defense.

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      5. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        9.5
        23
        41
        26.5

        Was considering downgrading Jarvis as my 5th mid...

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        1. Twelve years a slave
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Interesting , all fairly similar so far . Must admit that with my structure its the defence that involves having to do the most research etc.
          The Mids and forwards are easier .
          We all tend to concentrate on the sexy playmakers etc , really its the cheap defenders we should all be concentrating on , they are the ones that will make a difference . Any idiot can choose Hazard etc, but uncovering a diamond 4.5 defender is where the skill comes in

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            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Zaba-Branna-Collins-Shaw-Brayford for me right now.
            Branna will be a Norwich defender ,prolly Turner after DGW.
            Frees me up the cash needed to upgrade in my attack,

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            1. Twelve years a slave
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              😡 What do you have to do for a green post around here ❓

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                • 13 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                😆
                Upvoted!

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          1. Christina.
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Garrido (103) was the highest scoring 4.5m def last season. Then Collins(90).

            No use spending to much time on it. After 3 weeks most will jump on the relevant 4.5m bandwagons and we should know who are the nailed on 4m defenders.

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            1. Twelve years a slave
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              True , the good thing about the 4.0s is that they dont have to actually be good to benefit your team , its the extra firepower they allow that does that.
              Most people expect too much from them , forgetting that they are helping their team in other ways.
              Likewise , they think its great when their expensive defender keeps a clean sheet , but ignore the fact that the cheap forwards they are forced to buy only get two points most weeks

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      6. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yep, I'm similar but...

        If there was no dgw my 6.5m in def would read £5m max with the change gong on a fwd/mid.

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Oh, 9.5m gk. same last year gw1.

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      7. simon.knott86
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I quite like this idea, mine is almost similiar allthough I fear I may have fell into the "bottom heavy" trap as you mentioned... might need some more tinkering mine is currently

        GK 8.5 m
        DEF 26 m
        MID 39.5 m
        ATT 26 m

        I have to have RVP in my tream I cant see any way around it, to me he is nailed on and if he replicates his form from last season he is a must have!

        my DEF is currently Zab - Ivan - Mertesacker ( Parr - Brayford) who would you suggest guys that I downgrade and then where would you improve with the extra cash?

        My Team

        Mannone (Davis)
        Zab - Ivan - Mertesacker (Parr - Brayford)
        Hazard - Wally - Coutinho - Snodgrass - Kim
        Dzeko - RVP (Moore)

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      8. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        11
        22.5
        42
        24.5

        So many decent attacking options for £9.0m and under that I haven't stretched my budget that far up front. Similarly, a lot of good choices in midfield but they cost quite a bit (Walcott 9.5, Hazard 9.5, Silva 9.0, Michu 9.0, Kim 5.0 currently). Good chance I will downgrade Cech to Mignolet (save £1.0m) and invest the money elsewhere - probably in attack.

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      9. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I don't agree at all I'm afraid. I think you had a reasonable point till you mentioned that last bit about not making transfers between different groups.

        You sighted an example from the forwards group where 9,9,9 is just as good as having 14, 8, 5.5. I simply cannot agree with this as it seems to conflict with your main point on balance. This is because you'd still have the same problem if you need RVP or any other expensive 11m+ forward. You'd need two transfers to get that expensive forward and you can do that just as easily by selling a midfielder and a forward instead of only selling two forwards.

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        1. Twelve years a slave
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          You always disagree with my posts Ryan , i would expect nothing less
          If you read it properly you will see the 999 scenario is only if i decide to IGNORE RVP
          That has yet to be decided/

          Dont get bogged down in the detail , im just giving a template that has worked for meits the distribution between def mid and forward thats important , how its spent within the group less so

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Fair point I did misread that slightly. However I don't quite see the necessity in having to trade within a particular group? Especially when you have the ability to save a transfer so you can make two changes accross different groups for free.

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      10. Riddler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Not sure i can get on board with a theory that is concerned people are focusing "too much on who they pick"!!!! Nonsense, surely who you pick is entirely the point? Fair play if that system has worked for you, but for me that might be luck rather than design

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    10. heco87
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah I like him ... 15-20 league goals this season I reckon.

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    11. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      should be at 9 or 9.5 max

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    12. JPerks
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      What's going on with Ultimate FPL? They're leaving it quite late to open up, aren't they?

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      1. Canadian Football
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        i was wondering the same

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      2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        They need to pull their fingers out an open for registration !

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    13. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He would certainly add the to list of sub 10m strikers with strong potential.

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    14. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Anything less than 9.5m is a bargain

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      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        if bale goes then spurs are weakened unless two quality wingers are signed up to provide soldado to score
        otherwise him and spurs might struggle imo

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        1. Theseus
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          good point this...
          if they get di maria or someone to play on the right it changes the whole thing...
          big if still...

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      2. Theseus
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        will he get into the startinh 11 right away though?

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    15. Theseus
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      shoulder injury??
      oh come on roonpig...
      nobody is buying this...

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      1. Theseus
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        even a dislocated shoulder allows you to play with the right support material...

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    16. Demí
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Think he'll have a similar debut season to Benteke. So not the kind of option that people feel they really need to have in the side, but someone who'll consistently score the goals and get the occasional big score. But Benteke was 6.5, and Soldado will be much more. So he won't be looked at as a bargain at that price but i think he'll score similarly to Benteke.. if that makes sense.

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke 2013
        Soldado 2014

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      2. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        9.5m for someone who has never played in the league and who will potentially playing for a team who have just lost by far their best player...

        no thanks!

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Cazorla last season?

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            this ^

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    17. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      9.5 or below and he's in my team

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    18. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      GW2 Lukaku to Soldado

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    19. Balotellitubbies
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It seems really hard to make a good team this year. Struggling.

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    20. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No one will understand how annoying it is to find every morning that there to see no progress on the Suarez deal.

      I see Rodgers' acting like a complete tool again

      Gerrard feeding him some bullcrap again. Probably telling him how they're the favourites to finish second or how easily they'll end up in top 4, Like last year . Thinks if he stuck with mediocrity, everyone must follow his lead, or mislead, should i say.

      Like i said the other night,
      He should just take the 40 mil. spend the money on another borini or henderson or Allen or use it to buy a time machine so he can go back to the 70s and 80s and live there like the rest of the liverpool fans do.

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      1. Mr. Greedy
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        They should just sell their best player at a cut down price and stop moaning? Are you an Arsenal fan perchance?

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        1. The Machine
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Cut down? aha. 40 mil is more than enough for someone who will normally spend 30% of the season out through suspensions

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            plus 6 games of suspension on top 🙂

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      2. Cymro
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        What an idiot! We should sell Suarez to a rival for below his value?

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        1. The Machine
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Don't remember WestBrom or Swansea making a bid,

          Not sure where you coming from

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          1. Damo.
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Arsenal being first in the also rans isn't exactly success either though really is it?

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      3. Rtas
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        So Liverpool should sell Suarez (their best player with years left on his contract) for below his value without bothering to negotiate whatsoever just because you want to see the deal done now?
        That's just ever so slightly self-absorbed

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        1. JoshT
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          this x 1000000

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      4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        No one will understand how annoying it is to find every morning that Nate is still here

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    21. Perfect Curve
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Whether I bring Mr Soldado in will depend very much on price. Pretty happy with Giroud, Bony and Hooper on form at the moment.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        punty, I like it!

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      2. TexanRed
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I much prefer this to the likes of Lukaku and Dzeko, nice work.

        He has to be 9.5 and I am thinking they might stretch it up to 10.0!

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    22. THE GOON
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      If Bale stays, what will you do?

      A) Get Bale
      B) Get Soldado
      C) Get Both

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        B

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      2. saata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        C

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      3. Stigurdsson
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        C

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      4. TexanRed
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        D

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    23. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Hes gotta be at least 9.5

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      1. TheSteel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Wow what a fail

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    24. Lussun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      First RMT. Inputs welcome

      Mig (Marshall)
      Ivan, Zab, Collins (Parr, Chester)
      Hazard, Walcott, Coutinho, Michu (Koren)
      Anelka, Sturridge, Lukaku

      0.5m in the bank

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      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Nice team. I'd upgrade Anelka to jrod with extra.

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    25. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He is Spain's No 1 striker.. thats enough for me

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I thought Busquets was their best striker... 🙂

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        1. Djerbil
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          lol

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    26. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No fake price shouts please, it's just tedious.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I thought it was real, so just copy-pasted it...

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          No problem Nate, no harm done it's just a pain for those who take them at face value. A bit like fake goal shouts during matches - it's just pointless and irritating.

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      2. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Fake price wow... I miss the Fake line-ups already

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Now those actually can cause problems if they come in pre-deadline, bloody Alonso14... 🙄

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            The poor guy has his username blacklisted for life after that..

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    27. Lawrø
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thoughts on this?

      Cech, Davis
      Clichy, Johnson, Turner, Clyne Chester
      Hazard, Silva, Walcott, Snodgrass, Koren
      Sturridge, Bony, Lukaku

      A fair few differentials in there 😀

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I like a lot of it but getting Mirallas over Snoddy would nag at me.

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        1. Lawrø
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Johnson ---> Toure?
          Snoddy ---> Mirallas?

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          1. Frazek
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Sweet, although I do also agree about Cech. Maybe Migs for Cech, Cole for Johnson, does that also mean Kev for Snods?

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          2. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            yes

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      2. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Interesting but u Have to use an FT on Cech Week 2/3 irrespective of the situation

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      3. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        No Aspas? No Coutinho? Is this a fake Lawro? 😉

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    28. Narcissist
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Looking for some team advice here, currently with

      Boruc (Davis)
      Mertesaker Coleman Collins (Chester) (Parr)
      Walcott Silva Hazard Mirallas (Thomas)
      Aspas Lukaku Aguero

      The things I'm considering:
      1 - I have enough cash spare to upgrade Davis to Cech however due to his high ownership I'm concerned that his price will fall after the DGW. Worth the upgrade or keep the cash for bandwagons after GW1.
      2 - Aguero > Soldado as he seems more likely to start, this will also free up some cash and should allow me to do Lukaku > Negredo/Jovetic/Dzeko depending on what we see in GW1.

      Opinions?

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    29. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A) Snodgrass+ Soldado
      or
      B)Coutinho + JRod

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    30. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      The umpires are in the Aussie dressing room........they think its all over..............

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      1. Andrew
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Another pitch inspection at 5pm and then it will take the ground staff 90 mins to sort out the pitch so whats the point in that??

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        1. Andrew
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Match abandoned, Ashes retained!!!!

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    31. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Bale Leaving will improve Soldado's appeal. Everyone probably trying to find lame excuses to ignore Soldado.

      Bale stopped running to flanks and putting in exceptional crosses the moment AVB took over. How often did he play through balls assisted? (don't count the stupid FPL assists)

      If anything, he would have reduced Soldado's Shots per match and now he could also be given the free kicks.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Through balls or assisted*

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    32. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      RMT

      Mig Given
      Cole Mert Collins (Chester 4.0)
      Hazard Walcott Nolan Snodgrass (4.5 most likely Lucas)
      Hooper RvP Berba

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I really wouldn't waste a 4.5mid slot on a Liverpool player.

        I'm struggling to pick just 3.

        Mignolet, Toure, Coutinho, Sturridge. You can only pick 3...

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