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30 July 2018 1342 comments
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There were contrasting fortunes for Manchester United and Liverpool in their pre-season meeting this weekend.

While Jurgen Klopp’s side once again looked like a team worth trusting with Fantasy Premier League investment, the reasons to avoid Manchester United continue to grow.

We’ve taken a look at the big clash for Scout Notes…

Manchester United 1-4 Liverpool

  • Goals: Andreas Pereira | Sadio Mané (£9.5m), Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m), Sheyi Ojo, Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m)
  • Assists: None | Mohamed Salah (£13.0m), Shaqiri, Andrew Robertson (£6.0m), Ben Woodburn

Manchester United’s defensive woes worsened over the weekend as they were thrashed 4-1 by Liverpool in Michigan. Chris Smalling (£6.0m) pulled up in the warm-up and was forced out of the game, while Luke Shaw (£5.0m) sat out the match too. That meant that Eric Bailly (£5.5m) had to play in the meeting while carrying an injury himself, and Jose Mourinho also revealed that Nemanja Matic (£5.0m) would miss the start of the season.

“Smalling? I’ve no idea (about a return). Shaw? I’ve no idea. Matic had a surgery. Yes, of course (he is out for the start of the season). I don’t know (about a return). He came from the World Cup with an injury and the time he had to rest in the holiday was not enough to resolve the problem.”

Such a slew of injuries could seriously damage United’s clean sheet prospects for the beginning of the season with Antonio Valencia (£6.5m) potentially out for a month, Diogo Dalot (£5.5m) not available until September and Marcos Rojo (£5.0m) and Matteo Darmian (£5.0m) destined for exits. There hasn’t been too much interest in the Red Devil’s defenders thus far, Bailly the most popular with just 5.8 percent backing. However, David De Gea (£6.0m) has become the most fashionable shot stopper and he could be set for some sales in the coming days. Since Friday, the Spaniard has already lost 0.4 percent ownership, with Ederson (£5.5m) or Alisson Becker (£5.5m) potential alternatives to the United man.

Man United were equally poor at the opposite end of the field, mustering just three shots on goal. One of those was Andreas Pereira’s impressive first-half free-kick but forward players Alexis Sánchez (£10.5m) and Juan Mata (£6.5m) were starved of service playing in front of a second-string midfield. Anthony Martial (£7.5m) was not involved again and it looks as if the problems are mounting for Mourinho, which may put Fantasy managers off owning United assets.

“Antonio Valencia comes from holiday – I think too much holiday for him. His condition was not good when he was back, then injury and also go back. Anthony Martial has the baby and after the baby is born – beautiful baby, full of health, thank God – he should be here and he is not here. So we have Alexis (Sanchez) and (Juan) Mata who play every minute of every match and now we have Real Madrid and after that Bayern Munich and that’s our start.”

On the other hand, Liverpool demonstrated their credentials for Gameweek 1 investment with another strong performance. Of particular note was Sadio Mané dispatching his second penalty-kick of pre-season, despite the fact that Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) had won it. Also on the pitch at the time was James Milner (5.5m), long-time taker, and Fabinho (£6.0m) whose history suggested he could be in the conversation. The fact that they did not step up for this one does imply that the Senegalese forward could be set to take spot kicks in the league this season. Salah’s penalty record at Liverpool is scored one, missed one, while Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has missed two from three he has taken.

Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m) put on another good display which could see him force his way into the starting line-up earlier than expected, especially with Firmino still absent. The Swiss international played in an advanced role against Manchester United providing an assist and scoring a spectacular bicycle kick in the second-half. Also pushing for first-team involvement is Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m) whose substitute appearance in this match provided his fourth goal of pre-season – no Liverpool player has more so far.

The battle between Joe Gomez (£5.0m) and Ragnar Klavan (£4.5m) to start at centre-back alongside Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) for Gameweek 1 was not furthered by this particular match. Gomez started Liverpool’s previous encounter with Klavan replacing him at half-time, this time around it was the Estonian who got the nod from the beginning. He played 45 minutes before Nathaniel Phillips came on for him while Gomez replaced van Dijk in the 65th minute. We will definitely need to follow this situation more throughout the summer.

MANCHESTER UNITED XI (3-5-1-1): Grant (J Pereira 45’); Fosu-Mensah, Bailly, Tuanzebe (Gomes 81’); Mitchell (Fred 71’), McTominay, A Pereira, Herrera (Bohui 81’), Darmian; Mata (Chong 71’), Sánchez (Williams 81’).

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Grabara (Kelleher 45’); Moreno (Robertson 65’), Klavan (Phillips 45’), van Dijk (Gomez 65’), Camacho (Chrivella 65’); Lallana (Woodburn 45’), Fabinho (Jones 65’), Milner (Grujic 65’); Mané (Ojo 45’), Solanke (Sturridge 65’), Salah (Shaqiri 45’).

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  1. Reminders: Get a grav, and RMTs
    Geoff
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    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    A few reminders as we approach the beginning of the new season:

    1. Make sure you have a grav! (The picture beside your screen name.) It's a good way to help you get replies for your comments as it helps other users recognize you and your posts.

    From the FAQ at the bottom of the page:
    Head on over to http://www.gravatar.com and register for an account (make sure you register with the same email as the one you are registered with here). Choose an image, and this will be associated with all of your comments on site. Your gravatar image should appear next to your comments within roughly 24 hours.

    2. Posting your team is fine in moderation but don't spam it. You shouldn't post your team multiple times within an hour, for example.

    3. Try to respond to other users' RMTs. Not only is it a good way to understand things you could do for your team, it's the only way the system works. If everyone responds to 10 RMTs for every 1 they post, the feedback user's get will be more useful and the pages won't be so cluttered. Responding also helps build goodwill.

    We will have RMT Community Articles coming soon - please post your RMTs in those articles! The mods will be notified and will spend time responding. Again in those Community Articles, users should try to respond more than they post

    1. Rotation
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Excellent.

      Roll on the new season!

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, roll on!

        1. Rotation
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thank you 😉

          1. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            😀

        2. kingcolesy
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Ralls on

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      can someone tag scotty b on this please

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I should have also said:

        If users have a problem with another user spamming RMTs, please flag it. Mods will then take a look and speak with the user if that's needed

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          i will never flag another comment since all the ones i ever flagged still end up being there afterwards if i have a problem i will sort it myself
          cheers

          1. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Haha savage!

          2. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            As long as sorting it yourself is done in a way that isn't abusive I don't mind that

          3. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Best said in a Liam Neeson voice.

          4. LosBlancos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            lad

    3. Mikeharbrw
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      RMT etiquette is always appreciated. I'll try and comment on a couple if I'm posting one of my own. The only justification for a repeat post within an hour is if you somehow manage to get the last post on a page and don't get any comments on it.

    4. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You the man Geoff!

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      About sums it up.

    6. That Fantasy Guy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This is great info, thank you very much for setting the tone. One of the many highlights of this site is the non toxic community

    7. SwissWavey
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Better check my grav, pretty sure I'd set one up before...

    8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      It should also be mentioned the gravs need to be suitable, this is a family friendly site.

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Important, yes

      2. Fantasy Gold
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        If gravs were covered up, I’d be certain that this reply was from FPL Virgin 🙂

      3. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I don't think many families hang out here

        1. FPL Xylophone
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          My dad is hanging out here but yet to discover his account....

    9. SW6
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Geoff just a head up for the pre-season tab. Fulham played two friendlies the other day - the 0-0 with Fiorentina, but also we won 3-1 vs Athletic Bilbao.

      Kebano goal, Seri assist
      Kamara goal,
      O.g., Sessegnon assist

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, we'll get that added

    10. Jarnathan
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I think it would be useful to add a feature whereby we can aquire goodwill through some kind of measurement system - granted by community members for example. It would also help users evaluate better whether the advice can be trusted.

    11. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Would also be appreciate if people could tailor their advice to the poster and the team/strategy.

      It's no good listing the players you have in your team in an attempt to bash them into a template. Try to put yourselves in a position where you're open to the idea that the RMTer actually values the players in their team, and suggest a few player/strategical changes that you think could give them an edge over their current team.

      You're also welcome to ask questions bout the team rather than assume the RMT has put no thought into it (even if this is the case). It's nice be generous with your assumptions about the poster rather than to take a condescending, elitist stance.

    12. CL4PTRAP
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great stuff, I remember it got a bit heated in here with some RMTs last season. They can get very irritating, especially when posted as names with no real question other than RMT pls. If we are going to do so, we surely require more information on why a particular set of players have been selected. RMTs must have more behind the thought process than these are 15 players I could pick for my 100 mil budget, what do you guys think? In this way, the discussion adds value to the community and doesn't drain its energy with relentless, meaningless RMTs.

    13. Willos Wanderers
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Can someone tell me how to stop my grav appearing elsewhere (particularly calendar invites for conference calls). Need to try and maintain a professional image at work!!

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Aside from setting a work appropriate grav, I'm not sure!

        There must be a way to limit it to certain websites

        Anyone know this?

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Set up a new email address and use it for here and gravatar only.

      3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Do what I do and create a separate email account for fantasy football sites . That way you keep everything separate

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Would be good to just upload a picture to FFS imo. I wonder if the benefits of Gravatar are really worth it.

          That said, I my email account doesn't have my Gravatar displayed so I must have disabled it somehow, maybe I just went to the email account and removed the image.

      4. darrellb
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        oh damn. no wonder i got blocked by the property agency when i emailed them about a house with a rooftop that overlooks the city.

    14. FPL Xylophone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Thank you for the reminder! Done and done!

    15. RED PILL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I've been playing fantasy football games for some years now.
      Been a fully paid member for around three season's.
      Every year i struggle to find good league's to join. I have a team set up in all of the following games. FPL, SKY, TELEGRAPH, BUNDESLIGA. Any invites to join a free to play league, would be greatly appreciated.

    16. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great stuff thanks

  2. Arsenal review: who might be nailed?
    Deulofail
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Which Arsenal players have a chance to become nailed? Which should we avoid due to the uncertainty of having a new manager?

    Emery has played 4-2-3-1 in the last 2 International Champions Cup games. However, this is still pre-season with no Torreira. He favoured 4-3-3 at PSG and 4-2-3-1 previously in Spain. Here are the ways in which I see the current Arsenal players slotting into these formations. Where there are multiple options for one slot, I have depicted the rough preference from left to right with slashes to separate the players.
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    4-2-3-1

    GK: Leno/Cech
    DEF: Bellerin/Lichtsteiner/Chambers - (Mustafi/Sokratis/Mavropanos/Chambers)*2 - Kolasinac/Monreal/Maitland-Niles
    CM: Torreira/Elneny - Ramsey/Guendouzi/Xhaka/Maitland-Niles/Elneny
    AM: Mkhitaryan/Nelson/Perez - Ozil/Mkhitaryan/Smith-Rowe - Aubameyang/Ramsey/Iwobi/Welbeck
    ST: Lacazette/Aubameyang/Perez/Welbeck
    __________________________________

    4-3-3

    GK: Leno/Cech
    DEF: Bellerin/Lichtsteiner/Chambers - (Mustafi/Sokratis/Mavropanos/Chambers)*2 - Kolasinac/Monreal
    MID: Ramsey/Xhaka/Guendouzi - Torreira/Elneny - Xhaka/Guendouzi/Maitland-Niles
    FWD: Mkhitaryan/Ozil/Nelson/Perez - Lacazette/Aubameyang/Perez/Welbeck - Aubameyang/Iwobi/Welbeck
    __________________________________

    Notes:

    - The only likely mainstays across both formations are Leno, Torreira, Ramsey, Aubameyang and whichever 4 defenders are preferred by Emery.

    - Yes, Lacazette could become nailed in the CF position, but there is too much competiion for that role - as well as the left-side attacking role - for me to confidently conclude that he's nailed (despite Arsenal fans calling for the signing of a big-name winger, myself included). We've also seen with Pep that the idea of risking both of you top strikers together can at least weigh on a manager's mind. We may or may not see rotation affect the CF spot, with Lacazette the most likely candidate for a benching.

    - On the face of it, you could say that Mkhitaryan looks nailed, but in reality, I have no idea who would be preferred on the right-side of a 4-3-3 attack. He should slot nicely into the 4-2-3-1, though.

    - The formation, in part, depends which players remain at the club. Ramsey would likely be nailed in either system, but his move away from the club would likely trigger a greater use of the 4-2-3-1 formation, since there is no one likely to fill his boots in a 4-3-3, making runs from deeps etc.

    - Arsenal are likely to sell at least one of Welbeck and Perez to raise money. As you can see, at least one of them is surplus to requirements. A new quality winger, though, would give the front 3 or 4 some really quality competition, and allow for a rotation of 5 people for 4 spaces in a 4-2-3-1 without reducing the quality of the XI in each game. Such a scenario might spell an exit for 2 of the mentioned attacking players rather than one (including the possibility of loan deals).

    - Emery is known for rotating his FBs, which reduces the appeal of Bellerin, Kolasinac and Monreal. I think we'd all agree that Bellerin is most likely to be the closest to nailed, if you're willing to tke the gamble or back him up with a decent bench option. At 5.0, you might argue that you could do the same with Kolasinc. As much as I love Kolasinac's swashbucklery, I think he may be exposed as a defensive klutz, which could see him dropped for a period (rather than simply rotated). If he can prove himself at the back, he could become as nailed as Bellerin, with Monreal used primarily as competition. It's also worth mentioning that Arsenal are rumoured to be willing to sell Monreal to make funds available elsewhere. I doubt it's true, because he is basically a better version of Lichsteiner (older, wiser back-up), who they just acquired for the other side of the defence. But they may be wanting to make a quick buck for another purchase, and knowing Arsenal, they would likely have another free transfer lined up to come in and support free transfer, Kolasinac.

    - The CBs are a nightmare to predict. I'd love to see Mavropanos get a chance to prove himself, but admittedly that's based on a decent performance in 2 games towards the end of last season, plus 15 minutes before he was sent off at Leicester. Mustafi seems likely to be the first choice CB with new signing Sokratis the next choice. However, Emery is also supposedly in love with Chambers. You might say these two spaces are Chambers of Secrets with Emery wanting to play out from the back with the Philosophy of the Stones. You might.

    - I might be over-romanticising pre-season, but Nelson and Smith-Rowe have stood out in the highlights so far. Other youngsters have looked good too. With a new manager looking to curry favour with the fans, it's not implausible that he gives a couple of these a chance so he can take the glory for fostering homegrown talent (that's what I would do). It also saves money in the long-run, which should go down well with the board, But it's not implausible that these players feature for 0 minutes in the PL this season either.

    - Maitland-Niles was a fan favourite at times last season, with hopes he would get a starting berth this year, but with Guendouzi and Torreira coming in, he's unlikely to be a fantasy prospect at any point this season.

    - Taking over from Maitland-Niles, Guendouzi has been winning the fans' hearts in pre-season. I genuinely hope he gets a chance to oust Xhaka this season, or at least pushes him to become less of a liability. Guendouzi has already been likened to Side-show Bob, of course, but I think he likes like David Luiz in a parallel universe where his body moved in a way that was a bit more predictable for its owner.
    __________________________________

    Honourable mentions:

    - I've not included Holding, because I've never seen him have a good game at Arsenal, and I'm hoping he doesn't get a look-in this season (harsh).

    - Koscielny may be back from injury before Christman, and at 33 yeasr old (in September), he may or may not become integral to Arsenal's defence again.

    - Joel Campbell seems likely to never play for Arsenal again.

    1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm avoiding completely until GW3 - the mother of all fixture shifts, plus would have had a couple of proper games to have seen how the team/individuals are shaping up under the new manager.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        My stance from the beginning.

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          My stance us to get Aubameyang from the start

          Those who think aguero is a better pick are fooling themselves imho

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Why though? What's wrong with Aguero?

            1. asquishypotato
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Fooling gnome ourselves over the a top 2 striker in the league apparently.

                1. asquishypotato
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  I don’t even have a clue as to what that was meant to say.

                  I’ll let it stand.

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    😆

            2. Bloveman
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I think it’s more to do with aguero’s rotation potential, still not sure if he will even start GW1

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        simples

    2. Moxon
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      OZIL

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Same as Mkhi I think. Nailed in one system but competing with each other in the other. Better wait for a couple of games before getting either, unless pre-season gives us enough info and you don't mind the fixtures.

    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe this could help: https://i.redd.it/2j5bglmj5kc11.jpg

      Looks like a 4-3-3.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yes. It suggests to me that I was right to include 4-3-3 as an option 😉

    4. banskt
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I am avoiding all players for now. Watch them fall apart this season. Expecting them to go out of top 10. I would not be surprised if Emery cannot prevent their free-falling form over the seasons. Lets talk at the end of this season.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        No thanks. Let's talk now 😛

      2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Would certainly not surprise me - always seems to happen when very long-serving managers go (look at Rioch after Graham, and Moyes after Ferguson).

        1. Traction Engine Foot
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I'm biased but am actually quite impressed by how we've handled the changeover so far. We seem to have much more of a plan than United did when Fergie left. And Rioch wasn't that bad.

          1. banskt
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            It would be great if Emery can manage to make them better, aka a top 4 finish. But, well, only 2 weeks to go. We will find it out soon enough.

          2. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            For the record, I'm tipping Arsenal to finish above Spurs and United, Top 4 this season. I'd just like to hold back 2 GWs to see how they line up rather than speculate at this stage.

        2. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Ferguson was the greatest manager of all time in terms of getting the most out of his squad though. Wenger was notorious for accepting poor attitude and laziness on the pitch.

    5. Traction Engine Foot
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      It would be nice if Chambers became an option. Signed a new contract and Emery apparently likes him.

    6. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      tl;dr

      Perfect opportunity to assess for 2 weeks. Ask again ahead of GW3.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry I should have made it blindingly obvious that you don't have to buy Arsenal players if you don't want 😆

        FOR ANYONE WHO IS NOT COUNTING ARSENAL PLAYERS OUT FOR THE FIRST TWO GAMEWEEKS: Here is some information/opinion about which are worth considering, and which are definite "wait-and-see" options.

    7. The Rumour Mill
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for this 🙂

      At the moment Arsenal assets interest me for 2 slots in my squad , the F1 position and the third or 4th midfielder (M3/M4), depending on what formation I go for.

      Lacazette for a 1.5 saving over Aubemayang is attractive, especially if he is the central striker. But I assume Auba is on pens and the no.1 attacking asset they possess, so I assume he is most nailed on. Liverpool have also shown us the wingers can outscore the strikers in certain formations 😉 Is auba worth the 1.5m extra?

      And M3/M4 i'm looking at Ramsey or Miki. I notice Miki didn't start the last friendly, I guess if it comes to a straight shootout for a place in the team between him and Ozil, Ozil wins? You suggest Ramsey is nailed on, I think he would be superb in a 4-3-3, but do you reckon he can provide value as one of the double pivots in a 4-2-3-1?

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers for the reply RM. Yeah, Aubameyang can clearly still score from the wing https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/07/12/world-cup-final-transfer-tips-the-big-numbers/?hc_page=3#hc_comment_18355816

        In pre-season he has often been the farthest forward down the centre as he swaps with Lacazette, too. Likely to be on pens and scores all types of goals. I feel Lacazette will rely on Arsenal's form and fixtures to score (and I think he will score plenty), but Aubameyang is the more fixture proof of the too, given his range and consistency of goal-scoring. Here's more opinion on the debate: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/07/21/jota-a-viable-out-of-position-fpl-option/?hc_page=10#hc_comment_18392993

        In the midfield, I think it's too difficult to discern who wins out of Ozil and Mkhi if they are competing. At 8.5, Ozil is too much of a risk, despite being the slight favourite (probably).

        I think Ramsey has already proved tht he can be good value in a double pivot, though I would argue that muchh like Lacazette, he could be relying on a good Arsenal performace to allow him oppotunities in the box. In a 4-3-3 he'll be more attacking in general, of course, so Arseanl don't need to be as dominant or persistent with the counter-attack to get him into shooting positions.

        1. The Rumour Mill
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks for the links, interesting stuff! Yeah my own personal opinion is that Auba is every bit as good as Kane but for 1.5m less, he's also a captaincy option too whereas maybe Laca doesn't have that trust yet. (Just as an aside I see that Firmino is one of the most well owned forwards, I could cover his ownership as my F1 striker, but I think theres a chance he misses out in favour of sturridge GW1 anyway, and Mane is the same price as Firmino and on pens, so he might be my 3rd Liverpool asset to go with Mo and Robertson).

          Yeah to be honest I don't really like Ozil or Miki, and would prefer to have neither in my team! But at 7.0 I can't really ignore the value he may offer, if he's nailed on to play. You're right about him already proving himself, to an extent, in that position, and I think if the side is built to get the best out of Ramsey he could well outperform his pricetag (and Ozil and Miki), performing as a sort of Lampard-esque figure breaking into the box to finish off attacks.

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Goodness me. Another "Firmino isn't 100% guaranteed to start GW1" person around here. We better stick together or the hounds will get us!

            Agreed about Aubameyang. Hoping helooks good enough to allow me to drop Salah after 2-4 weeks (if I own Salah from the start).

            Uh oh, hounds are coming again.

            1. The Rumour Mill
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Haha I've not been around here much over the summer, is everyone convinced Firmino starts GW1? I mean he might, but he's hardly nailed on as he hasn't joined up with their squad yet has he? And even if he is, I think its worth asking the question "is Mane better value?", what with his full pre season, and extra point for a goal, clean sheet, and seemingly on penalties.... I think there's the very real possibility Sturridge steals some of Firmino's minutes too (although same can be said of Shaqiri and Salah/Mane)

              https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/29/rejuvenated-daniel-sturridge-eager-revive-liverpool-career

              Wow big call on Salah! He's fairly fixture proof I think, but its worth considering all alternatives for sure. I think if you have Auba and Salah you can alternate captaincy for the following fixtures over GW1-8:

              WHU, cry, WHU or BRI, car, new, SOU or EVE, WAT, ful

              Not bad at all. If you think Salah will suffer with fixtures though, there is a nasty little run gw5-8, in which I guess you could make the big call to switch him out for Auba, if you dont own him already, or also KDB, Hazard, or Sanchez.

              1. Deulofail
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                You can check this thread for just one example of the community's thoughts on Firmino in GW1 and Salah in general. https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/07/19/one-week-until-wasting-your-wildcard-book-release/?hc_page=1#hc_comment_18382625 😀

                I agree about Sturridge. Solanke is there too. And it's the perfect time to give them a chance. One week where he has an excuse if it doesn't work. One week where he would otherwise have to explain to Sturridge that he basically doesn't trust him and doesn't want to use him haha.

                If I had to bet right this second, I would bet on Firmino starting, but there's more of a doubt with the others being with the team for longer in pre-season. As you say, Firmino's minutes could be curtailed, so if he does start, again it's the perfect opportunity to give Sturridge minutes.

                Thanks for the captaincy rotation plan. With Auba's fixtures though, it would be unecessary to rotate. The general consensus on here is that your captain should be your most expensive player, yet many kept Kane while captaining Salah fairly consistently last year, and I think many will captain Auba as you suggested while keeping hold of Salah. The other consensus seems to be that Salah is only good value if you captain him. I'm likely to put 2 and 2 together and sell him as soon as I have faith in another captaincy option. If I don't, I'll keep.

                1. The Rumour Mill
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Lol, pretty damning!

                  Yeah Solanke is another threat on occasion. Yeah to be honest I'd get some use out of Sturridge before he inevitably breaks down again! Poor bloke. Totally agree with you, and I think Klopp has been pleasantly surprised and impressed with Sturridge's attitude this pre season. With Klopp being the sort of guy he is, I suspect he will repay that faith and give Sturridge a chance from time to time.

                  No worries. I think having 2 captaincy options (commonly priced above 10m) is the sweet spot really. Just one and you're at the mercy of a surprise injury or benching, 3 or more and your squad normally becomes inbalanced. Players above 10m can only really justify their value if they are captaincy options from time to time. I think captaining Salah for 5 out the first 8 and Auba for 3/8 gives them both a good chance of justifying their value.

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    Cool. I was coming at with the assumption that I would have captaincy options in Mane, Aguero and Aubameyang, maybe others, if I start the season without Salah. And at least 2 other captaincy options even if I do start with him (allowing me to downgrade).

                    That said, I thing Aubameyang by himself would do fine. If the vice captain ever kicks in, it's not like you will have no other players on form with a good fixture, since we've picked many players based on fixtures and will be buying form players too.

                    Hard to ignore Aguero and Aubameyang at 2.0 less than Salah, which is why I'm quite likely to have both in my GW1 team. If that's at the expense of Salah, so be it, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. We'll see 🙂

    8. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Whats the difference between 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3?

      I think we need to start refering to formations in both their defencive and attacking shapes.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'd hoped the differences were somewhat self-evident in the player lists for each position. The main difference I see is that there are fewer attacking players in the 4-3-3, but it allows for FBs - and at least one midfielder - to push up more in attack. So the 4-3-3 becomes something like a 3-4-3 in attack, as Torreira joins the CBs. I'm no expert on Emery tactics, but that's what I gather.

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Just seemed an awful long winded way of saying, Ozil might play AM or RW.

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Sigh. You came here yesterday for the discussion. You came here today to shut it down. That's not the only information in the post. If you're not keen on reading it, then that's okay. But read it before you criticise, at least.

            The post actually suggests that Ozil is nailed in one formation but not in the other. This also has implications for Mkhitaryan and other players. For instance, the chances of Nelson breaking into the first team (perhaps via an injury and/or rotation) are dimished in the 4-3-3, since Ozil and Mkhi are expected to be ahead in the pecking order.

            You're turning into quite the wind-up merchant tbh.

            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              From all the preseason matches its seems pretty clear that Ozil is nailed and so the implication of 4-3-3 would be that Mkhi becomes a substitute player.

              I'm not sure the chances of Nelson breaking into the team is particularly strong in any formation. Definitely not something to worry about as we approach the season. It has no bearing on building a GW1 team.

              Formations though are really difficult to portray in just a few numbers these days. On paper there is barely any difference between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-3-3. Both have 4 defenders, both have two wide forwards/wingers, both have a single centre forward, both have 3 midfielders. Theres very limited difference. Where the changes come in is in what the team does on and off the ball. Look at Liverpool, off the ball they play 4-5-1, on the ball its closer to 4-2-4, yet on paper its described as a 4-3-3 which is reflective of neither of these states. Formation numbers seems outdated to me.

              As I said, the only difference is where Ozil plays and the implications on Mkhi. Ramsey will be CM in all formations, Laca central and Auba left. Thats the end of the players people are looking at.

              1. Deulofail
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                From all the pre-season matches? They've played 3 games, and Ozil was only available for one of them. In that game, both Ozil and Mkhitaryan started.

                (They also played 4-2-3-1, which means they had a player "in the hole" / in the #10 position, with 2 CMs behind him (as opposed to 1 CDM and 2 CMs who share the responsibility to push up (rather than sitting farther forward as a link-up player / second striker / lazy arse).)

                Mkhitaryan also came onto the pitch at 63 mins against Atl. Madrid and, previous, at half time in the Mkhi-Mouse game againse Boreham Wood. What does any of this really tell us about their GW1 line-up given that Emery (and all managers) are trying things out and giving subsidiary players a run-about, and that it's probably not the same system he will use in GW1 (midfield 2 infront of a CDM).

                Against PSG, Ozil and Mkhi were subbed off at 64' and 67 respectively. Does this tell us Ozil is nailed?

                Wherever it comes from, I think the opinion that Ozil would be nailed at the expense of Mkhi in (apparently predicted by the simple number formations I've used even though they are also apparently useless) comes from beliefs about the players. Perhaps there is other evidence, but I don't see how pre-season has told us much about it.

                Regarding Nelson, I have talked about lots of players in this post. Some are relevant before GW1. Some I'm arguing should be avoided for a couple of weeks at least. Some might come into contention in PL or FPL terms later in the season. Some others are irrelevant in PL and/or FPL terms. All this is interesting to me. I'm sorry it's not for you.

    9. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      To make it more legible, I've re-organised the formations. Let me know if there is anything you disagree with or you think I've missed out. 🙂
      __________________________________

      4-2-3-1

      DEF:
      1. Bellerin, Lichtsteiner, Chambers
      2. Mustafi, Sokratis, Mavropanos, Chambers
      3. Sokratis, Mavropanos, Chambers
      4. Kolasinac, Monreal, Maitland-Niles

      CM:
      1. Torreira, Elneny
      2. Ramsey, Guendouzi, Xhaka, Maitland-Niles, Elneny

      AM:
      1. Mkhitaryan, Nelson, Perez
      2. Ozil, Mkhitaryan, Smith-Rowe
      3. Aubameyang, Ramsey, Iwobi, Welbeck

      ST:
      1. Lacazette, Aubameyang, Perez, Welbeck
      __________________________________

      4-3-3

      DEF:
      1. Bellerin, Lichtsteiner, Chambers
      2. Mustafi, Sokratis, Mavropanos, Chambers
      3. Sokratis, Mavropanos, Chambers
      4. Kolasinac, Monreal

      MID:
      1. Ramsey, Xhaka, Guendouzi
      2. Torreira, Elneny
      3. Xhaka, Guendouzi, Maitland-Niles

      FWD:
      1. Mkhitaryan, Ozil, Nelson, Perez
      2. Lacazette, Aubameyang, Perez, Welbeck
      3. Aubameyang, Iwobi, Welbeck

      1. mikeycee93
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Only thing that bothers me in the 4-2-3-1 is you have laid out the formations as thought one of Torreia and Elneny is definitely nailed on to play.

        Being an arsenal fan aswell, I wouldn't say that is the case... but i agree with that majority you have said.

        I'd put Leno, Bellerin, Sokratis, Ramsay, Ozil, Auba as nailed on at the moment with Laca looking like he will be aswell.

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          You don't think Torreira is first choice?

          I put Elneny as second choice for his spot because no-one else quite has the defensive-mindedness to cover him, especially in a 4-2-3-1 with only 2 CMs. I suppose Guendouzi or Chambers could slot in there ahead of Elneny, or Xhaka, M-N or even Mkhitaryan against weaker opposition.

          I suppose in a midfield 3 you can afford to go without a proper CDM, and perhaps I've underestimated Guendouzi's sweeping ability. He could be like David Luiz in more ways than one by joining the middle of the CBs in transition to attack in the event that Torreira is unavailable.

    10. A.T
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Too much time on his hands this lad. 🙂

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Good effort though and thanks.

    11. Adams6
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great analysis. For what it's worth I have heard several pundits on podcasts such as Totally football show and the Guardian one talking about the fact that, in their opinion, Emery much favours 4-2-3-1. He was pretty much forced to play 4-3-3 at PSG because of the players he had there and that Neymar was bascially running the club.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers Adams. Looks like he might try a 4-3-3 next, looking at Cokey's link, though the Metro calls it 4-1-4-1, which I guess means 4-1-2-2-1, which I guess means 4-3-3. 😆

        4-2-3-1 seems like the best way to ensure Xhaka is not in the team, so I like that one best.

    12. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks Deulofail, Great effort.

      Yesterday ... * Auba instead of Sanchez *
      Tonight... *Sanchez instead of Auba* lol

    13. FPL Xylophone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Sokratis and Mavropanos for me but after gw3.

        1. FPL Xylophone
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Are you suggesting something? 😮

    14. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Ozil is as nailed as they come.

  3. DantheManinaPan
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone got a link to any insights about Chelsea's defence?

    I know Azpi is nailed, but I don't know much else.

    From what I can see, Rudiger looks like a starter but I'm not sure

    1. Fuchs Mane Kante
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      New gaffer will go Christensen imo.

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I prefer evidence to some guy's opinion on the Internet, sorry.

        1. Fuchs Mane Kante
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          You must be new.

        2. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          You're in the wrong place. Go to Google.

        3. Bellerinmondo
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          in the wrong place then lol

        4. Gaffers
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Can we hulk comments?

        5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Why are you here asking “some guys opinion on the internet” then?

          Your comment is probably the thickest reply I have ever read on here.

          1. DantheManinaPan
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I asked for links - I was interested in news, rumours, insights from close by sources, for example, so I wasn't asking for "some guy's opinion on the internet."

            The question asked for links on nailedness, so I'd expect comments responding whether they knew anything from the manager, or alternatively nothing, but at least something productive, such as all the other initial replies other than nonprophet's.

            I'm afraid your comment might take the thickness title, quoting me on something I asked NOT for and telling me that actually that's what I'd asked for.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      No one knows yet and Sarri is still trying to reinforce. Community Shield might shed some light this weekend but can't be sure until tran window shuts.

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Agh that's a shame - thanks!

    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Search for the Sarri article on here from last week

    4. nonprophet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm picking the back four as
      Alonso azpi luiz zappacosta/moses

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        That's pretty much a total guess though. I'm hoping for a 5.5 defender and have Emerson pencilled in. Will prob change on the basis of CS evidence.

        1. nonprophet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yes and no. I've been checking his system and players he likes. Think luiz will def be there. Zappaacosta a guess, but he has played second amount of minutes I think so far

    5. Respect My Authoritah
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Community shield should give us most answers. Cahill may mess everything up, but he shouldn't be anywhere near the team tbh

    6. Bellerinmondo
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Emerson could be back in the picture, and Cataldi/ Rugani, have to wait and see

  4. Scotty B
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    10m to spend on two defenders...
    Not Cedric, so who else?

    De Gea 4.0
    Cook Van Dijk Tonkins ____ ____

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn’t want to cook any more than 2 defenders

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mendy 4

    3. LSK
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      David Luiz & Boly

  5. Eden Wizard
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    The groupthink round here is hilarious! They attack you for having a different strategy 😆 😆 😆

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/07/30/more-pre-season-problems-for-man-united-as-liverpool-dominate/?hc_page=2#hc_comment_18435099

    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for linking a comment a few posts up.

      You posted a comment and people are discussing it. Would you rather we just ignored your takes, or just blindly nodded and agreed?

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This 😉

    2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You know the Salah love in here, so you knew posting that would get that kind of reaction - admit it 😉

  6. Christina.
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Kane odd slashed from 33/1 to 4/1 to join ManU

    1. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Bookies printing money as always

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      That’s bookies trying to hook punters in.

      It’s a mug bet.

      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Aye, should be illegal though. A company with such a dominance on sports media should not also offer betting market on said news. Watch Sky Sports also run a 'transfer rumour from our sources' story any day now. It's corrupt and their exploiting gullible fools.

        1. tm370
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Exactly this

    3. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Kane --> United
      Zaha --> Spurs

      Bargain!

    4. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Never look to the bookies when it comes to transfers

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      ha.
      Quite clever really.

    6. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      They never offer odds on someone not joining a specific team though. Sneaky buggers.

  7. M3R
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    If you captain Salah every game, is there sense in not owning Kane, Aguero or Auba given the high price reflects captaincy option and going cheaper upfront? Just wondering if captain Salah and a spread of budget is something to consider?

    1. Mikeharbrw
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You've got a point, there's only 1 game of the opening 5 I wouldn't captain Salah for

    2. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You are correct.

    3. KompanyThePeople
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Only if Salah delivers every week, then you can consider captaining him every GW

      1. M3R
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        If he doesn't pretty much do that then you can make a case he's not worth having anyway?

    4. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Players you don't captain score points too.

      1. M3R
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This is true of course but I'm thinking say, Eriksen and KdB for 20 or Kane and a 7.5. If i never captained Kane would it make more sense to go for the first two.

        1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Would you never captain Kane though?

          1. Christina.
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I'm coming around to Kane from the start.

            You getting him from the off..correct?

            1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I am unless it is confirmed he isn't starting GW1 - first two fixtures are mint, and I can switch easily to Auba GW3 if I need to.

              1. HamezMace
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Kane and Salah?

                1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  And Aguero 😉

                  1. HamezMace
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    4-4-2?

                    1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      13 outfield starters (hopefully) so flexible, but 3-4-3 probably mostly.

                      Currently on:

                      Ederson 4.0
                      TAA Cedric 4.5 4.0 4.0
                      Salah Mane Jota Neves Cairney
                      Kane Aguero Wilson

                      But this depends on there being two likely 4.0 starters. Wilson may well also become Andone whch will give me 1.0 to use elsewhere.

                      1. HamezMace
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        I don't think I'd be happy with two 4.0m defenders.
                        As you say, Wilson downgrade could help with this, Sorloth looks good in pre-season, if he nails down a place it could help.

                      2. HamezMace
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Thanks for sharing your team

                      3. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        99% likely it will change though 🙂

              2. Christina.
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                I played around and my team looks ok with him and Salah.

                1. HamezMace
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  I'm struggling to make Kane and Salah work, especially with a decent 2nd striker in a 4-4-2.

                  I'm coming around to Mane instead of Salah as he seems to have been made penalty taker now.

                  1. Christina.
                    • 15 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    3-4-3

                    1. HamezMace
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      Kane + 2 x 7m-6m strikers?

          2. M3R
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I'd certainly be tempted, yes. I guess this is the crux of my thought - is a choice of having him as big hitter captain and extra points worth the lesser strength in other positions? Quite possibly but the other way makes for some really balanced looking teams

            1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Absolutely - so many different ways to go - all part of the fun 🙂

    5. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Well yes, that's pretty much the received wisdom.

    6. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Kane doesn’t score in August. Aguero is explosive, so I’m afraid of not starting him

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        How about when he's benched for Jesus?

      2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        England don't win penalties...

        I have both Kane and Aguero.

        1. M3R
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I've always played it like that, having the big strikers and rotating the armband but got that wrong overlooking Salah a lot last year. Do you have those two and Salah? How does that affect the rest of the squad?

          1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I have those two and Salah.

            Defence has PVA/ Robertson/ Luiz
            Mid has Ozil and Richarlison

  8. boc610
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    “Smalling? I’ve no idea (about a return). Shaw? I’ve no idea. .....The remote for the TV ? Lost. My NETFLIX password? F**k knows.
    de geas's hair ? ridiculous ...Pogba's form? whoop de f***ing doo, lets see him when I play him out of position and drain him of the will to live......

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He's an absolute numpty. Can't wait for him and his moaning to leave this league for good.

    2. Ron_Swanson
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Jose hates the fact that his players don’t like him

    3. Emiliano Sala
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      What is it exactly?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The only thing missing is a female physio to lay into.

  9. Norman Conquest
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    so mahrez could make the community shield that's better news

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      the fact he played on so long after the incident suggested it wasn't going to be anything too serious

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        yea

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      "However, a scan today has revealed no significant damage, and he could be available for selection for this weekend’s Community Shield against Chelsea."

      from my link to the official City page.

  10. Andy Mac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    If Mahrez injured, is BSilva nailed on?? Ta!

    1. KompanyThePeople
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He will fight with Sterling when he comes back

      1. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The old school way of settling the hierarchy within the team.

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Last man standing match?

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Sane

    3. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I’m starting to come around to Bilva

      1. Andy Mac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Me too...if he’s nailed for first few GWs and makes a good start he’s an absolute steal! Even if transfer him out once others are back in contention....

    4. BoleynWin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      With Mahrez likely to miss the first week, Sané struggling for fitness, Sterling on his WC break & Dilva having a change of focus (rightly so) I think BSilva is the most nailed midfielder barring Fernandinho for City. Only for the first few weeks mind...

  11. mitiozo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Are the points for Man Utd defenders been reduced in the Rate My Team data?

    1. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sure that they're factoring in starting uncertainty

  12. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone think Shaqiri's goal shouldn't be legal? The defender would be attacking that with his head if there wasn't a flying foot up there

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      It’s ok..
      It was only 3 foot off the ground.... 🙂

    2. Pukki Party
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Smart for the defender to not put his head there in preseason imo.

  13. FPL Footy Show Pod
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I’ve never been on a FFS page with no posts before.

    It’s desolate.

    I feel alone.

    Help.

    1. Fuchs Mane Kante
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Is Alone a new signing.

  14. Kambo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    How likely is it that Liverpool are opting for a CAM behind the striker this season with two deep midfielders? Surely Shaqiri is more likely to be playing in the starting XI then we think

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Who would be the number 10? I’d lik3 to know how Liverpool fans expect them to line up. Personally I think Shaqiri will be a a squad player that will take minutes away from Mané but that’s just a total guess.

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        He's the only left footer, Salah backup IMO.

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Right ok.

      2. Kambo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        surely either of Salah Mane and Shaqiri can free form up top at times, but with how damaging Salah was on the wing i'd say Shaqiri would play behind? Otherwise they'd be looking at Lallana in behind, thats if they dont opt for a flat 3 across the midfield.

    2. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely not. 4-3-3 flat suits them very well and shaq is bench fodder

    3. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Kieta & Fabinho played together deep a few games ago in a 4-2-3-1 however, IMO won't happen due to Pool defence being weaker than attack.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Klopp's not going to change what was the best front 3 in the world last season. Behind Salah-Firm-Mane the midfield was weaker but now the triangle should mainly be Fabinho and prob Hendo at the base with Keita ahead. I just don't see where Shaquiri fits into any of this. I can only see him as an impact sub and to rotate in when Mane or Salah gets a rest.

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          This would be my general take on it but Liverpool isn’t really my strong point. (Not that I have one )

    4. Pieterke30
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The guy scores a iverhead kick and everyone goes mental lol

    5. Bucky Barnes
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I think the 433 and in particular the front 3 of Liverpool is thought of too rigidly , as if shaqiri will only play at the expense of one of firmino mane Salah, coutiniho managed to fit in alongside that front three so why not shaqiri

      1. Bucky Barnes
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        ALI
        TAA VVD LOV ROB
        FAB
        KEI SHAQ
        SAL FIR. MAN

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          That would score A LOT of goals wouldnt it?

  15. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Here's my current team, feel free to tear into it (0.5itb)

    Patricio Fabianski
    Mendy Robertson Tomkins Cedric Peltier
    Salah Mane Dilva Richarlison Cairney
    Auba Arnie Sorloth

    1. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You might play with two defenders GW1 (Mendy not played a minute yet, Cedric still hasnt started preseason even and Peltier injured). How do you decide who do you bench out of Cairney/Sorloth/4th def every week?

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Salah & Mane double is a thing of beauty

      1. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Here you go then

        Patricio - Foster
        Robbo - Mendy - Mee - Cédric - WanB
        Salah - Mané - Richarlison - Pedro - Neves
        Auba - Arnie - Zaha

        Mendy and Cédric - I will see but I want Mendy from GW2 anyway, not 1.

        Two 6.5 mids might still change. I really like Maddison.

    3. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mendy & Dilva the obvious doubts. Rest looks great!

    4. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mendy and DSilva not nailed.
      But otherwise. Its ok.
      I’m not a fan of Richarlison.

      But go with your gut

    5. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Looks very good. Obvious ones to monitor:

      Mendy - if starts
      Dilva, Sorloth - if reasonably nailed

      Also on GK - the 2 4.5s can become 1 5.0 if Pickford/Schmeicel move to Che

    6. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Decent team with adequate cover

  16. KingOllie
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Either you start the season with Jota, or you end up transfering him in as he approaches 7.0m

    1. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Huge claim, can't see it. Plenty of established players at that mark.

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't take pens..

    3. A.T
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      How many times has the big name from the Championship flopped in the Prem? Almost every season

    4. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Or you take the loss when their are mass transfers out...he is highly owned, so if he doesn't start well he'll be one of the first to get axed by the casual players

  17. Eden Wizard
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I've justified No Salah over Mo Salah.

    Mane & Eriksen 19.0 for fire & forget 200 club IMO = 400.
    Salah & fodder 19.0 for 250 + 75-125 = 325-375.

    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      That's why I will get all 3.

      😉

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Wink doesn't justify the brutal imbalance left from spending 31% on 20% of the team 🙄

        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          What Imbalance?

          Would still own Kun, Arnie, Zaha, Richarlison/Pedro/Jota and Robertson.

          1. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I don't like it but each to their own (as long as it's groupthink or you get attacked 😉 )

            1. Christina.
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Not sure who attacked you...it wasn't me.

              I don't think it's groupthink if you start the season with the highest FPL scoring player in history. Makes sense.

              1. Eden Wizard
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Indeed but, he's not 9.0 anymore or nailed on set pieces. Risk worth taking is my thinking today!

      2. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Think of the captain though

        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          what about him?

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Think you forgot to double Salah’s points?

      Will you cap Eriksen & Mane?

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This did drive me to bring Salah in before but i'm confident in Mane being on pens now so yes i would.

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I think you need to post that again since you know best and because a lot of people didn't seem to think so earlier today.

          1. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Struggling to understand you - as always.

          2. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Oh about pens? Haven't you had a sleep since then - I know i have...

          3. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I did qualify it as MY OPINION.

    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mane/Eriksen + 200 pt captain = 600

      Salah (C) + Fodder = 620

      Standard value is price multiplied by 20 = total points so if youre getting 75 points from your 6M players youre doing it wrong

      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Fernandinho at 5.5 will bang out 120 himself and hes not considered a good value option so the popular 6-7M players should be pushing more than that

    4. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      What about a Salah and Mané/Eriksen

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        22.5ml not 19.0

    5. WesMantooth
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Theres also cptncy.
      And mane is not likely to Get 200 due to rot and inj

    6. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This isn't FPL Draft.

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Beautifully explained as always (Y)

    7. Costa Nostra
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mane has never come close to 200
      Points in a season. Salah and a 45 pointer would have covered them last season.

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Can't win round here, i posted this exact point weeks ago and got attacked lol now i get attacked for my u-turn 😆

        1. Costa Nostra
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Personally I’ll be starting with Salah, Mane and one of either Sane or Eriksen. Along with Auba, Robbo and Ederson I’m quite happy with the team after filling it in with some
          Mid priced options which are plenty and good value his year. But to each their own.

    8. DantheManinaPan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      OK but it's not that great a comparison because no one is going to play fodder, really.

      And you haven't taken into account captaincy, which doubles Salah's points. Not sure Mane and Eriksen are the best captaincy options

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for your opinion, huge risk I know but my structure allows for a Kane/Salah explosion.

    9. KingOllie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This isnt the case as you wont be playing the fodder

  18. Dr Funk
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Any help filling in the gaps would be appreciated...

    G1 - G2
    D1 - D2 - D3 - D4 - D5
    M1 - M2 - M3 - M4 - Salah
    F1 - F2 - F3

    Cheers

    🙂

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Gravatar.com

    2. Fuchs Mane Kante
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Best I have seen.

    3. Unimaginative
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      5.5, 4.0
      6.0, 5.5, 5.5, 5.0, 4.0
      Salah, 9.5, 9.0, 7.5, 4.5
      9.5, 7.5, 4.5

      There you go

    4. Costa Nostra
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      That’s really all you need.

    5. Firmino
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      M1 = Mane
      M2 = Richarlison
      F1 = Aubameyang
      F2 = Aguero
      G1 = Ederson
      G2 = Stekelenburg
      D1 = Pool defender
      D3 = Cedric
      D4 = Tomkins
      D5 = Wan-Bissaka

  19. FantasyFootballFanatic
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Hit me with your best hate on this, but this season I will be playing a 5-2-3. You heard it right. I have looked deep into the stats of points per match and the only attackers who outscored defenders in terms of points per match were Kane, Aguero and Auba (All costing 11 mill+). Bar that, premium defenders outscored the other attackers. You then have to consider that the most expensive defender is 6.5 million and in striker terms that will get you a Chicharito or a Wood...So, the best way to approach things is to go heavy on defence and have lots of defenders. However, as defenders aren't actually expensive even when they are premium, this has allowed me to have extremely premium midfielders and strikers, and I will be able to transfer these around depending on fixtures.

    Alisson (McCarthy)
    Alonso Mendy Bailly Cedric Wan Bissaka
    Salah Richarlison (Neves Stephens Pugh)
    Aguero Kane Auba

    Let me know if I am an imbecile.

    1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Cedric and wan are premium? 😀

      1. FantasyFootballFanatic
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Haha, I would still class Cedric as one when I see so many people with 4.0 and 4.5 defenders all over the shop and a 3-4-3 formation. Wan is, of course, cheap, but he is in there because Palace have amazing fixtures and I still have 1 mill itb to make him a more expensive defender/transfer around my attackers if needed 🙂

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      right , how bad is this ..

      DDG / Speroni
      5.5 def / VVD / Cedric / Tomkins ( Peltier )
      Salah / Richarlison / Sane / Neves ( Masuaku)
      Arnie / Vardy / Auba

      any thoughts appreciated 🙂

      thanks

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        d 'oh !!!

    3. KingOllie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I went 5-3-2 last season and was in top10k.

      Drop Aguero, upgrade a midfielder to Sane/Mane. Use the remainder to upgrade those defenders or it aint worth that formation

      1. FantasyFootballFanatic
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I like your thinking, although I might drop Kane instead as City's fixtures and Aguero's underlying statistics are outrageous, and Kane often starts the seasons slowly.

        I will come back to you with the updated 5-3-2

        1. KingOllie
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah or Kane, my only worry is that Aguero may see some rotation and you cant really afford that when you only have 5 attacking players.

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Did you have 5 good defenders all season?

        1. KingOllie
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I switched to a 4-4-2 around xmas as there wernt many clean sheets happening

          1. A.T
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Can you remember your rank before the switch? It’s something I’ve always fancied but never had the balls to do it.

      3. FantasyFootballFanatic
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        What about this?

        Alisson (McCarthy)
        Alonso, Stones, Bailly, Mendy, Robertson
        Sanchez, Mane, Richarlison (Pugh, Stevens)
        Aguero, Lacazette (Kamara)

    4. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Bad. Dont go crap like Cedric and WB if you go 5 atb.

      1. FantasyFootballFanatic
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I changed it to this:
        Alisson (McCarthy)
        Alonso, Stones, Bailly, Mendy, Robertson
        Hazard, Mane, Richarlison (Pugh, Stevens)
        Aguero, Lacazette (Kamara)

  20. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Repost as bottomed

    The Reddit post on Emery rotating his full backs for those looking
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/91t619/unai_emerys_history_rotating_fullbacks/?st=JK8673Y1&sh=b41e422e

  21. Andy Mac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    BREAKING NEWS

    Mahrez injury not serious and likely to be available this weekend for CS...

    You heard it here first! 😉

    1. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      There is actually a post above on this.. You are second tough..

    2. LSK
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      4th

    3. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Goodbye Sane

  22. Holteenderinthesky
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Any Chelsea fans shed any light on David Luiz. What's the chance of him starting under Sarri. Seems it could be a cheap way into the Chelsea back line.

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      wait for the Community Shield

  23. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Dsilva or Mane?

    1. Scotty B
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mane all day

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Age, energy and minutes say Mane

    3. Dee Lixon
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mane. Guardiola has said that he will restrict Dsilvas minutes but who knows what that means

  24. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Has Firmino still not returned to pre-season?

    1. Cofinho
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He didn't

    2. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      today

  25. Our Tiny Windows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Is Milner nailed? Played 3 out of 4 of the last friendliest.

    1. Teddy Steddingham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely not nailed, but will play some games. When Henderson is properly back after the world cup then I imagine he should reclaim his spot.

    2. piquiblanco
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Not nailed at all

  26. A.T
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    When everyone has the same team is it really worthwhile posting yours and asking if it’s any good?

    1. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      this ... many times over

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I don’t understand the logic to it. Isn’t better to discuss likely starters, that sort of thing!

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Of course - How else will the pages of drivel continue to fly by? 😆

  27. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    How important are Good BPS players for you?

    I remember having Mane last year and he would score, get a clean sheet point and would always be matched by Firmino who would get an assist only then a bunch of bonus.

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Points win prizes

  28. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Mahrez given the all clear to return to training this week. All aboard again.

  29. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Mahrez no damage should be okay for community shield

    City TV

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Ffs