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Despite their defeat against Swansea, interest in Arsenal’s key players has picked up considerably this week as the Gunners, as well as Sunderland, prepare for double Gameweek 37. Our community writers and posters were full of good advice on the best players to draft, while our hot topics also take a look back at the season’s best, cheapest and most unlikely stars. We also catch up on the latest scraps for mini-league glory in our community tournaments as well as showcase the week’s best latest statistics in our Members area.

The Community Articles

Our resident Arsenal expert Jaffalicious has returned with a timely update on the best attacking assets from among the Gunners ranks. This has already proved essential reading for those wondering which players to bring in ahead of their double fixtures in Gameweek 37. AZ has also been helping out those looking for Arsenal’s assets with this close look at three of their midfielders.

However, early investment in Arsenal players in Gameweek 36 proved disastrous for many, according to our latest Rough with the Smooth round up of your week’s best and worst transfers, captaincy decisions and team selections.

The Puntmaster is among those to be cautious about Arsenal’s differential targets and has instead focused on a Sunderland midfielder and two single Gameweek players in his latest look at the week’s best punts.

Congratulations to Gussy whose guide to Fantasy Football success without ever watching a match proved to be the most popular community article of April. He earns a £20 Amazon voucher for his efforts.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Although Arsenal players will be the main attraction during Gameweek 37, the community is clearly keen on taking some punts on Sunderland players ahead of their double fixtures. In our discussion on the best Black Cat options Brian Utd – Why Always We favours Jordi Gomez (prior to his injury), while HVT has his eye on Jermaine Defoe.

For those considering even more daring punts Jose Mourinho has indicated that some of his fringe players such as Izzy Brown and Nathan Ake are set to start against West Brom this weekend. Patch was keen to know more about these young stars and the community was only too happy to help out.

While price used to be a good indicator of a player’s points potential, Punty believes that this season has ended the notion that a budget price tag indicates less chance of racking up a good score. He wonders whether the large array of quality budget options this season, including Harry Kane and Leicester’s defenders, has made transfer value largely irrelevant this season.

The Puntmaster took a break from offering up the week’s best differential picks to ask which players have proved to be the most disappointing this season. With Manchester United and Liverpool’s ranks beset with injury and poor form for large parts of the season, it was no surprise to see their players amongst those mentioned.

In contrast, Kricky is for Kinear asked the community to name their surprise stars of the season as he compiles a 2014/15 Bargain Basement Cult Differentials XI. To start things off he asked the community to name their favourite budget friendly cult hero goalkeepers of the year and defenders.

Delaying transfers for this season’s unlikely budget stars has cost many dearly this season. Just a Hat’s discussion looked back at this season to see what other key lessons the community has learned.

Cutting down on points hits has been among lessons learned by many this year. But as Goodfella’s discussion on the links between hits and rank found, even the highest placed managers are keen on the odd points deduction.

The Members Tables

To give some further insight into the best double Gameweek players to consider I’ve constructed this table looking at Arsenal’s assets, as well as this look at Sunderland’s most attacking players. Both are sorted by shots in the box, one of the best indicators of goal scoring potential.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Leagues

In the Official Deadzone League mateen .a. bakar has a strong lead of two points going into the final two Gameweeks. Ralph Noodles is leading the chasing pack in second place.

Greenwindmill, who sits in 27th overall, has consolidated a commanding lead at the summit of The Long and Winding Road main league and The FFScout Moderators & Contributors league. However, he dropped to third in the Top 1000 Any Season league in Gameweek 36, with Stuart Shingler’s impressive tally of 107 propelling him into first.

In TorresMagic’s Last Man Standing competition, Mark K., Winter_is_coming, HuttonDressedasLahm, ManTree(v2!) or just JAY! and Arfield Boyd have made the DGW37 final.

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  1. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    vlaar or wasi? any other good def choice for 4.3m? cheers

    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Vlaar for next week.....only just

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        vlaar it is. cheers

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Okore, because he got the 3 bp last week

    3. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      This week, Cameron

  2. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone thinking Sunderland could get a cleanie in first game?

    1. Peter Butler
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Cleanie, not sure. But they will score and most likely win the match. Thats what I feel.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Doubt it.

    3. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      They're as poor as Newcastle and will receive a similar thrashing

  3. Peter Butler
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    The last (and only time this season) I made Giroud captain, he did something silly and got red carded.. should I captain him this time?

    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      No chance

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      No

      1. HellasLEAF
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I will never forget that. Also captained him that day. Worst mistake I have ever made in FPL.

        Although the two yellows were a bit harsh imo. 2nd especially. Ref was flat out wrong there

        1. Captain Peacock
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          It's not predictable. Annoying when the ref is incompetent too. I started McAuley and Duff when they got red cards that were later overturned on appeal.

  4. Jigger & Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Guys am chasing, but it's crazy to captain Giroud over Sanchez right?

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nah... Go for it, its now or never.

  5. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Points predictions for these?

    a) Henderson
    b) Larsson
    c) Vardy
    d) Defoe
    e) Wickham

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Vardy to score. None of the others

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      9
      15
      8
      3
      7

    3. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      6
      4
      7
      7
      9

    4. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      6
      4
      2
      4
      7

    5. DOG GOD IT - KEANE 15
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      10
      3
      2
      13
      5

      But of course i have Hendo and Defo, so my opinions are biased

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      2
      16
      5
      8
      4

  6. Nabs Kebabs
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    GW 37

    Pants
    Ivan, Terry, Koscielny
    Sanchez(vc), Hazard, Santi Cazorla(c), Henderson
    Kun, Benteke, Vardy

    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      You'll bottle the captaincy 🙂

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        nope 😀

        Santi is the one going big this dgw

    2. money face bandwagon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Welcome to my team ozil

      1. money face bandwagon
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        ozil(c) > caz(c)

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          nah 😉

          1. money face bandwagon
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Haha as a caz owner but non capper i hope caz score big too!

      2. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        eh?

    3. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lovely team

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        cheers mate!

  7. HellasLEAF
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    3 options.

    Swap Clyne for PVA and start him and Adam in a 3-4-3

    or

    Start Clyne and swap Adam for Larsson and start Larsson

    or

    Start Clyne, swap Dawson for PVA and bench Adam. 4 - 3 - 3

    thoughts??

    this last transfer doing me in..

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      2nd

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A

  8. Holmes
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Other than Sanchez, I love my current midfield 😎

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Gonna say who's in it?

  9. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    All set, transfers done, running for the hills. Hope to see a three figure score when I check in next. Good luck lads!

    panti
    pva bellerin terry
    haz silva ozil sanchez (c)
    defoe kane kun

    krul albrighton vlaar cawson

  10. The Raging Bull
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Guys,

    Hazard > Ramsey? (only way i can bring him in)

    I'm not sold on Cazorla, he plays far too deep.

  11. ddumper17
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I would hold. You will want hazard for 38 and not much of a difference between cazorla and ramsey imo

    1. The Raging Bull
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I will have 1FT and I can bring him against Sunderland

  12. JUSTBLAZE
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Unsure of what to do and just read Welbz is out. Unsure to bring in Giroud or an Caz. Would appreciate some advice. Team is as follows:

    DDG
    Terry Skrtel Duff
    Hendo Hazard Ozil Albrighton
    Kane Aguero Benteke

    Definitely doing Hazard > Sanchez. Should I do Hendo > Caz or Kane > Giroud? Will be captaining Sanchez 95% sure. Thanks.

    1. JUSTBLAZE
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Could be Ramsey for Caz but isn't he out for Saturday?

  13. ddumper17
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Which 1 to bench this week?

    Hazard
    Vardy
    Coutinho
    Silva

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Silva

    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Vardy

      1. ddumper17
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I'm torn between Silva and Vardy. Is it completely safe to assume Hazard is starting? I would going with a 3-5-2 if I bench Vardy.

  14. NorwichCityLad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    which 2 should I play
    A) siggy
    B) Skrtel
    C) lescott
    D)phillips

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Skrtel and Phillips

  15. Arsenal USA FC
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Austin or Ulloa?

    Punts...

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Austin, going to smash that Newcastle defense.

      1. Arsenal USA FC
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  16. DaveVak
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Hi,

    1. 1 FT, budget midfield (Henderson or Bolasie out) or defender (Wollscheid or Bertrand) ? Which ?
    Got 0.3 in bank. 3 ARS and PvA from SUN in 11 already.
    2. In 11 Henderson, Bertrand or the one from above point ?

    Thanks,
    David

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Save transfer, Hendo

  17. Nickofoz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Why is only the defender watchlist updated?

  18. Shifty
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Folks, need some more advice on this head scratcher.

    A) Skrtel > Kosc
    B) Silva > Cazorla

    Team's

    --------------------Schmeichel-----------------------
    ----------------Terry PVA Skrtel--------------------
    ----- SANCHEZ Hazard Silva Henderson-----
    ---------------Kun GIROUD Kane-----------------

    Davis; Albrighton; Morgan; Baird

    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Replied 2 pages ago mate.

      It's a complete 50-50 IMO.

      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        cheers Inns. yea definitely a 50-50. Well Kosc is a bit more straight forward as he's to me the best Arsenal def. But Caz/Ozil/Rams....could easily pick the wrong one.

        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Indeed, that's why I went the 3 mid route 😀

          1. Shifty
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            yup. Would have done the same had I gone Vardy over Giroud on WC.

              • 12 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              Wilshere's the one

              1. Shifty
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 8 months ago

                haha could easily go Henderson > Wilshere and keep Silva and Skrtel...

                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 8 months ago

                  Now doesn't that sound better

                  1. Shifty
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 8 months ago

                    stop it.

    2. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      b

      1. HellasLEAF
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        very close, but for this GW hard not take B

        1. Shifty
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          That's what i'm thinking too...if it's a 4-5 GW period, for sure Koscielny.

          But it's 1 GW....and Cazorla/Ozil/Ramsey have a higher ceiling for sure.

    3. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      do u think hazard will start or just get subbed on later on? arent u considering ditching him?

      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        i was.

        not anymore.

        was only going to sell if it was increasingly likely he would be rested.

    4. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      B imo

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      B.

      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        at least you aren't flip flopping. cheers Doos. Kosc is definitely the 'safer' pick, would definitely do it if it were a 3-5 GW period.

        But as a one-off...has to be an attacker.

        At least I narrowed it down to Caz...!

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          😀

    6. Caleb's Kitties
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A

  19. ddumper17
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Which 1 to start this week?

    Ivan
    Morgan
    Bertrand

    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      bert

      1. ddumper17
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks do you say bert bc you think ivan will not start?

        1. Messi & fabregas
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          i think clean sheet for soton today

    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Ivan

      1. ddumper17
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks Innsie.

        1. ddumper17
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Would you go Bert or Morgan as first sub?

          1. President John F. Keninnsie
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Probably Bert.

  20. Messi & fabregas
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Good morning lads

    Do u think Hazard will start or just a cameo for Brown later on ?

    Thanks

    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think Hazard will start and be replaced by Brown after 70-75 mins.

      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        thanks innsie

  21. peanut101
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    rmt http://i.imgur.com/BOzeGXF.png

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Vardy over Silva

  22. FortunesAlwaysHiding
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Cant decide between GJ and Morgan for this week. Any thoughts?...

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Morgan, I think

  23. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Down 17. Any suggestions?

    Fabianski
    Ivan skrtel PVA
    Hazard Sanchez Albrighton Phillips Silva
    Kane Kun

    Foster Bertrand Clyne Murray

    0.8 1FT

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Silva to Cazorla
      OR
      Murray to Wickham

      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers Doosra, great to see you back. I haven't been on here as much as past years, but I'm glad I got a response from you. Hope you stay well!

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          So do I!!! This rehab is for the birds! 😀

    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Murray to Defoe?

      Go 4-3-3

      bench one SOT, Albrighton and Phillips

      OR
      simply Fabianski to Ospina

      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers! I was even considering Panti for Foster but there's so many more points to be had with the attacking players :/

    3. Kane Toads
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Perhaps Haz > Caz (or Ramsey - but riskier). I've gone with Caz, Ozil and Sanchez. Best not to take a hit if you are only 17 down.
      If you choose to take a hit do Ivan to a cheapy and upgrade albrights or phils to Caz.

      It depends also on the team you are chasing.

      all the best

      1. Kane Toads
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        P.S. If you drop Haz make sure you have the cash to bring him back for GW38!

        1. bdwhite91
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Not gonna drop him. Was going to but Hopefully mou lets him finish out. If I drop anyone it's silva for caz. Murray and the GKs and Ivan other options. Panti/Ospina Sunderland striker or Kos

  24. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    That moment in the morning, when my exercises are done, and the sun tips over Shooters Hill!!!

    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Ah Shooters Hill, some of my most terrifying Sunday lunches were at the Hungry Horse(?)

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Christ Almighty - what on Earth were you doing in that Hell-Hole??? Why did you not go to the Hope and Anchor? 😀

        1. Joggers Nipple
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I was a bumpkin who had moved to the big smoke at that time. I soon learnt

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Ah! Did you ever go to the Star Inn, on Plumstead Common?

            1. Joggers Nipple
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              Yes indeed! Then we discovered Greenwich wasnt too far away and spent most of our local time down there. The Sun Inn in Eltham was out proper proper local, walkable

              1. Joggers Nipple
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 8 months ago

                And Bexly Vilaage and Chiselhurst. Worht the short journeys

    2. Kane Toads
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      nice - here in Perth, West Australia it's12.53pm, 12 degsC and bucketing down!

  25. mugharbil
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Hey everyone, have a 51pt lead in my league

    my team- Already did a -4 to get PVA and Defoe.

    Schmeichel (Davis)

    Terry/Bertrand/Skrtel/PVA/Bellerin

    Sanchez/Ozil/Hazard/Albrighton/Bridcutt

    Kane/Aguero/Defoe

    Suggestions on how to set my team, thanks.

    1. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      You're looking very good as long as haz and Silva don't explode.

      1. Scoredelario
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Oh you have haz, I misread it haha. Looking even better then

        1. mugharbil
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          how would you set up the team?

          1. Caleb's Kitties
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            bench Bertrand albrighton bridcutt

        2. Kane Toads
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          yep - I was able to keep Haz and Silva as below:

          All Done! Boyd > Caz + Ivan > Dier for a hit!

          My team is:

          Pantz
          Skrtel,Dier, PVA
          Silva,Haz,Ozil,Sanchez,Caz
          Kane,Aguero

          Schmeichel,Vardy,Schlupp, Vlarr

  26. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Football weekly considered the possibility that both Sunderland and Leicester may take a draw. Fair point, they'd both be close to safe, if not safe with a draw.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A draw does little for Sunderland if Hull & Newcastle manage wins.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        This ^^^!

      2. Scoredelario
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Big If

    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      But they can basically confirm safety with a win.

  27. money face bandwagon
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Defoe take penalty now?

    1. Kerrazy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      no. Larsson.

      1. money face bandwagon
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks!

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        no. AJ.

  28. Kerrazy
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    think my team is ready for the week. what do you think? 0ft.

    Ospina
    Schlupp Terry PVA
    Sanchez(C) Ramsey Hazard Hendo
    Aguero(VC) Benteke Vardy

    Schmeidel Moreno Duff Boyd

    1. Kane Toads
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      looks GTG.

  29. Kerrazy
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    OFF TOPIC

    do you prioritise form and sets, or reps?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      The former, all the time.

      1. FortunesAlwaysHiding
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Form for sure. It's clearly the most important.

    2. Benteke10
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Reps of course

  30. JUSTBLAZE
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Rank the following in what you think they will score this week:
    Sanchez
    Ozil
    Giroud
    Caz
    Ramsey

    1. Kerrazy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      same as yours. lol