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The Digest – Gameweek Eleven

The leader of the pack delivers for Wolves. Bolton tear into a leg-weary Stoke to avenge an FA Cup humiliation and Robin Van Persie takes a hit, as Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are given every reason to dislike Mondays…

The Player

We’ve waited for Jamie O’Hara to deliver. For weeks we’ve had him bubbling under as a Scout Pick’s consideration, pondering when his contribution to the Wolves effort will translate into Fantasy returns. We suspected it would come as soon as Mick McCarthy’s side could turn the corner and earn their first win since gameweek two. Almost inevitably, lowly Wigan were on the receiving end of a Wolves revival with O’Hara the protagonist in a 3-1 win.

A 15-point FPL haul was signposted. Our Members can see for themselves how O’Hara matches up to some of the leading Fantasy targets this season – how his creativity and threat are integral to Wolves’ chances of saving their Premier League status.

With an FPL valuation of 5.7, O’Hara’s goal and two assists seems likely to rouse interest. Right now, however, investment in O’Hara is being dwarfed by the interest shown in this weekend’s other midfield revelations – Bolton’s Chris Eagles and Norwich’s Anthony Pilkington. Both are cheaper than the Wolves man and have also shown greater consistency when it comes to returns this season.

It’s difficult to make a case for O’Hara then, although we’re pretty certain that if McCarthy can get the Wolves ship on steady waters, O’Hara will be back amongst the points on a regular basis.

The Team

Having slipped to eight defeats in nine league games, Bolton unleashed a goal frenzy on a weary Stoke City at the Reebok. Owen Coyle’s men were relentless, led by the attacking verve of reborn Chris Eagles and the recalled Ivan Klasnic.

The Croatian had a point to prove having dropped down the pecking order following his foolish red card in the gameweek five defeat to Norwich. Since then David Ngog has emerged as a contender up front, while Coyle has dropped Kevin Davies to the bench as he juggled his formation and tactics. Klasnic was back in the lineup against Stoke however, with Kevin Davies alongside him. The Potters, suffering a Europa League hangover once again, had no answer to Bolton’s desire to banish the demons of last season’s humiliating FA Cup semi-final defeat.

The emergence of Chris Eagles is of particular interest to Fantasy managers. The winger has become a major component in Coyle’s plans and, having completed 90 minutes in the last four league games, appears to have surpassed Martin Petrov as a reliable creative force, with a heightened goal threat thrown in.

Three goals and four assists is a healthy return for a midfielder priced at just 5.3 in the FPL game. While Petrov languished on the bench, Eagles seized the opportunity to take centre stage. It’s hard to say how long his flame will burn, but with Bolton entering a run of favourable enough fixtures, short-term investment seems sound.

The Talking Point

Monday morning brought a chain of events that boiled the frustration of many Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers. Having delivered another huge points haul in the 3-0 win over West Brom, Robin Van Persie lost the assist awarded for Thomas Vermaelen’s goal and dropped in the EA PPI rankings, denying him a single bonus point. Those who captained Van Persie suffered an 8-point drop in their total – green arrows suddenly turned into red – I speak from experience.

It’s hard to pin down the real issues at play here. Is it frustration with the criteria used to judge an assist? The fact that a touch from Gervinho would be enough to cancel out the cross from Van Persie which eventually found it’s way to Vermaelen’s boot?

Perhaps it’s more the process of the points being removed, the fact that it took forty-eight hours for the points awarded on Saturday, to be stripped on Monday morning.

The fact is, Gervinho touched Van Persie’s cross. That was not only the judgement of the Press Association after Monday’s review. It was also the call made by Opta who also awarded a “Goal Assist” to the Ivorian on Saturday night.

Like it or not, then, no Fantasy game in the land gave the assist to Van Persie – it’s not included in the Sky game, it’s not included in the Fantasy League and, while the Telegraph give Van Persie a “Key Contribution”, they also award the same to Gervinho – recognising that he got a touch on the Dutchman’s cross.

We had the Van Persie assist for forty-eight hours but it was never ours to have. We can argue it – re-examine footage but where do we draw the line with such disputes?

When two data providers, charged with supplying correct and accurate data for statistical purposes both say Gervinho touched it, it’s clear we’re fighting a losing battle. The same could be said of Gareth Bale’s “goal” at Fulham – the Press Association don’t stand alone here either – Bale’s goal has been awarded by Opta and all the major Fantasy Games. At what point do we have to shut up and put up?

It also seems unlikely that the new definition of an assist within the FPL ruleset is to blame in the Van Persie’s case. There were examples last season, when this definition wasn’t around, where the slightest of touches took an assist from the supplier of a cross. If an attacking player gets a touch on a cross, a flicked header for example – they gain the assist if a goal is then resultantly scored, not the cross provider. We should be used to this by now.

Van Persie’s cross was intended for Gervinho – the Ivorian fluffed his lines, missed the cross but appeared to divert the ball with his back leg after swinging with the right. A bungled, unintentional intervention but, in terms of the significance of the touch, just how far apart is this from a flick off a player’s hairline on the near post? For all the frustration, once we accept that Gervinho touched the ball, it’s hard to argue against the assist going his way.

Unless of course we push for the whole definition of an assist to be changed. Perhaps such a touch from Gervinho shouldn’t be rewarded? After all, he never intended for the ball to end up Vermaelen’s path when he swung his leg.

Interestingly, Opta have two definitions for an assist; a “goal assist” -which Gervinho earned- and an “intentional assist” – which clearly he didn’t. Do we need and want a similar system applied to the FPL – should we only reward a player if he genuinely intended to set up the scorer?

Perhaps we want the Telegraph’s Key Contribution instead – a system where more than one player can be awarded points for their role in creating a goal – in this case both Van Persie and Gervinho would have benefited.

I’m not sure that a perfect solution is available, but we can and will debate this further. While the definition of an assist in the FPL is clear, it does create cases that cause frustration and perhaps offer the need for things to be re-examined.

Personally, I’m far more frustrated by assists being awarded after positive intervention from a defender (a clearance). Demba Ba’s assist for Ryan Taylor’s goal against Everton being the latest case in point. That’s my own crusade and one I’ll go on pursuing.

Don’t get me wrong. While I’m firmly in the camp that we have to accept the fact that Van Persie did not earn an assist, I’m also aware that things are far from perfect.

It’s worth noting that the FPL did act as a result of Monday’s events by adding clarity to the rules concerning the revision of decisions. They now state the following:

“All assists are reviewed daily but remain provisional until verified by the Press Association. For the avoidance of doubt, points awarded in-game are subject to change until the Gameweek closes. Once a Gameweek closes, no further adjustments to points will be made.”

Better. Nobody can be in doubt now that, until the bonus points are allocated, assists can be added and removed. Whether we’re comfortable with that is another matter. The view is that it’s better to arrive at the correct decision later, than make a call in twenty-four hours or less and get it wrong. Again, it’s hard to argue against this. We all want a fair outcome – had Van Persie kept his assist in the FPL, it would have been the only Fantasy game to award it. That surely would not have been a fair outcome.

We want live updates on our scores, but perhaps if a decision is subject to review, at that point the associated points could be removed. Perhaps that would make the potential pill easier to swallow. Perhaps communication on decisions under review is also required.

Monday’s events have clearly raised a number of issues and, while, in my view, we have to put the specific case of Van Persie’s assist to bed, the classification of assists and the allocation of points under review, remain hot potatoes that will clearly spark further debate. Listen out for the next podcast is all I can say.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,646 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Louis Van Balls
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    This year's FPL game has been a complete and utter disaster and has truned off a lot of people - and I don't mean the casual players either.

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    1. meltedman
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      What are you talking about? The long forgotten 1st week debacle?

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    2. iLA
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Any particular reason besides the recent assist/goal review and dodgy BP system?

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    3. Goodfish
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think a lot of people moaning about it just need to relax and remember...'IT'S JUST A GAME!" There's no life, death or sickness here...Just a bit of fun picking players you think might score some points for your FANTASY football team. The key word here is: FANTASY!

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      1. Clintymints
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Is this real life

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    4. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      It's gayballs alrite

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  2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Price Change | Wed 9 Nov 03:00 UK Time

    + | Vorm : Pilkington, Sessegnon, Bale, Eagles ; RVP, Dzeko
    - | Kuszczak ; Luiz, Flanagan, Bramble, Jara, Mertesacker ; Downing, Kranjcar ; Balotelli

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    1. iLA
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks Natt!! About frickin time they updated the price..

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    2. meltedman
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Eagles and RVP...up up and away..

      I like the fact neither of my next 2 transfer transfer targets (drenthe, bentdner) are near to rising and cabaye and suarez look safe for drops right now..

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    3. Elniñorules
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      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why isn't Hughes falling in price? Flagged i guess.

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      1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        It'd be good if his price drops to 4.5 mil.

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  3. iLA
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    Not experienced in this game so can anyone advises which type of players should we get for the December/Jan hectic period?

    Im guessing the likes of Lampard, Rooney and Suarez as they generally can play few games in a week without being rotated?

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  4. halnone
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Who is a good replacement for Bosingwa?

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    1. Carlos Danger
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jones is popular atm

      sunderland, everton, manu, tottenham, arsenal with the nicest fixtures coming up

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      1. halnone
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I was thinking Baines.
        Everton aren't looking that good though.

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      2. Jinswick
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Yep, Jones looks the best. Or Vermaelen if you have the cash spare.

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        1. Daniyal
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          i hv Pjones Kompany Rtaylor Ntaylor Bosingwa
          so if i transfer out bosingwa should i get vermaelen

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          1. Dream United
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            12 years, 6 months ago

            if u have spare cash... otherwise go for Kyle Walker...

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  5. Carlos Danger
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone care to venture a guess at what Suarez called Evra in their game? "I called him something the Man United players always call him" "His teammates were surprised at his reaction" What oh what could it be, I wonder...

    POST YOUR GUESS?!

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    1. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nigger?

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    2. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Annoying little c*nt?

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    3. Carlos Danger
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      are these things that his teammates would routinely call him?

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    4. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Spear Chucker

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      1. seattlechelsea
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Class comments - From the Stevie Williams mindset I see

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        1. norab
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          surrender monkey?

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    5. Carlos Danger
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      In retrospect this was a dumb question to post

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  6. Jinswick
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    So, barring injuries, I'm pretty much decided on tripling up on Stoke at the back this week. Buggu this for a big fat i told you so in a couple of weeks....

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  7. teto
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    Who to swap Suarez for?

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    1. halnone
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nice team value.

      and you should keep suarez. Chelsea's defense doesn't look the best.

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      1. teto
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks! Thats what Ive been thinking, and he doesnt good away in big games which is a good thing. Any changes you think i should make? Finally getting a chance to get rid of Ferguson

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    2. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Suarez -> Bendtner then upgrade the eyesore that is Ferguson!

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      1. meltedman
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Nice team by the way.

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      2. teto
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks! Cant stand seeing Ferguson there. Hoping to get around to him next GW although ill have to downgrade somewhere

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    3. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Dude is firing blanks - Captained him against Nowrwich and worse - against Swansea. Ruined two whole weekends.

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      1. PL Ball
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I know that feeling.

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  8. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Dzeko if you can handle the rotation risk. How much in the bank?

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    1. teto
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Im assuming that was to me 🙂 ive got 1.1 in bank. Dont want too much risk, Ive been trying to avoid City forwards altogether but Suarez needs to go. Maybe Agbon?

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      1. Dream United
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        12 years, 6 months ago

        good shout....

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  9. Daniyal
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    A) Vermaelen + Hernandez + Pilkington
    B) Vermaelen + Aguero + Reo Cocker
    C) Brown/Hibbert + Aguero + Drenthe
    D) Brown/Hibbert + Hernandez + Lennon
    E) Baines + Hernandez + Allen

    lots of options but what is best and open to other suggestions also pls guys comment

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    1. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      a c or e

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jagielka+Hernandez+Larsson?[from next week]
      out of the lot then,
      c).

      or maybe -
      phil jones + dzeko + VDV?

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      1. Daniyal
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        thanks but i already hv VDV Pjones n Balotelli

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      2. Daniyal
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        i feel inclined towards A most actually

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    3. Red_mist
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      C for me.

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      1. Daniyal
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        since C is most popular i guess i should stick with it right? and what do u think of A compared to C

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        1. Red_mist
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          He might score you an occasional goal here and there but keeping clean sheets is beyond him with a poor Arsenal back line.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Gunners have kept just as many clean sheets as anyone except Swansea so I dont see what you are talking about BP.

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            1. udit
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Hi JoA, how are you?

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              1. udit
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Weren't people saying I was you yesterday?

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                1. The Finnisher
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  I think so, I went to bed when it began so im not sure what happened with it!

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                2. Elniñorules
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  Not you Udit. punuru = JoA

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                  1. udit
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 6 months ago

                    Ah, okay thanks ENR

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            2. Red_mist
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              But still Verm is too overpriced.

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              1. Dale Cooper
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Nearly scored 2 goals against WBA. However, Wenger admitted that he'll keep to rotate his back line. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it as I don't believe Vermaelen will sit on the bench when fit, but still it's better to wait at least one GW and see how it turns out.

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        2. Clintymints
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          jus our opinion, pick a if you think its best... its prob my preference

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          1. Daniyal
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            thanks i'm going with A will do transfer next friday since i hv only 1 FT i will do these in 3 weeks out going will be 1st bosingwa then petrov n then balotelli(he could go before petrov if he's not playing)

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  10. Red_mist
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Brunt ---> Drenthe(c) with a 4 point hit worth a punt?

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    1. gravless
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why not. Live life on the edge baby!

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      1. Red_mist
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        One of my rivals last week took a surprising punt by bringing Klasnic and giving him the armband.So, I want to try the same.What do you think?

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        1. gravless
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          If you're 'feeling' it then do it.
          Same old captain choices and 'identikit' teams are so boring. 🙂

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        2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          He, Drenthe, is in a good form. It's a gamble but I think it could pay off.

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        3. Carlos Danger
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Oh my god, is this guy ranked well??? It sounds like he straight Martha stewarted that shit! How many games was classless klasnic benched before that?? I dare say I do not believe you...

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    2. PL Ball
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      NO, brunt has relatively good fixtures coming up. Most definitely not worth a hit.

      Bol, QPR, Wigan, Blackburn.

      Spot kicks, Corners too.

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      1. Red_mist
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        not for long term,it's only for one gw and then for the next I might bring him back.Just want to accumulate Drenthe's next gw's points as he plays against Wolves,which looks really inviting.

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  11. jagshmash
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    so i feel like i have been chasing points… but how to get in front of the curve… my current team for gw 12

    begovic (given)
    kompany brown walker (staylor) (ward)
    ramires walters vdv silva (dyer)
    graham rvp adebayor

    team value 101.3 in the bank 2.4

    my rival is ranked 1600 in the world now… and i am 503k... at a dollar a point... thats 150 bucks i owe him at the moment.

    i am thinking about waiting till next game week to have 2 free transfers then doing

    ade –> zamora
    staylor –> vidic
    ward –> vermaelen
    dyer –> rodwell

    for an 8 pt hit

    thoughts?? RMT anyway??

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    1. gravless
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Too much money in your goalkeepers.
      Dyer + Graham is not ideal.

      Rodwell is an interesting call, but I wouldn't tie up money in Vermaelen and Vidic.

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      get rid of adebayor and ramires.
      consider downgrading and upgrading one of them.
      i would suggest downgrade adebayor ->klasnic
      ramires->lamps.
      also get rid of ward->jagielka[maybe].
      don't waste money and points on vidic and vermaelen.

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      1. Dale Cooper
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Why don't you look at it this way: Larsson (Ł6,6m) - 1pt in GW11 compared to Vermaelen's(Ł6,7m) 15pts.

        I know that it's an uncommon tactic, but I think it can work very well, too.

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  12. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    The rush happened as usual and I'm glad that I've successfully kept myself away from transfer button.. 🙂
    Anyway, I still can't stop thinking for what can I do to improve my team for next few weeks.
    So, May I request for RMT please..

    Vorm - Krul
    Richards - Brown - Evans - Simpson - Naylor
    Nani - VDV - Silva - Mata - N.Dyer
    Adebayor - Bendtner - RVP

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    1. LaLaLand
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      richards wont play every game
      evans wont play any games
      apart from that great team although not a fan of bender

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    2. Red_mist
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Your team looks pretty decent on paper apart from Evans.

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    3. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Evans out - Bendtner deserves a chance. Nani deserves a little time while Man Utd sort themselves out but he might be one to look at replacing then upgrade Ade or Bendtner for Roo, Aguero,

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    4. Daniyal
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      ur both keepers hv a difficult now take krul out for maybe westwood

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    5. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Get rid of Evans.
      Good team, refreshing to see 4big in the middle.
      perhaps you could consider downgrading/upgrading adebayor and upgrading/downgrading mata to lampard/larsson?

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    6. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks all. My latest transferred player, Evans, seems to be the obvious weakest link.. 🙁

      Nani is another one to be considered during international break. His form for Portugal will be the key.

      Keeper wise, I feel comfortable to play Vorm in the next three and save transfer/Krul in the team.

      Mata to Lampard is tempted but I will have to do one of Nani > Ramsey/Drenthe or Ade > 6.2m FW to sponsor this move. Do you think if it's worth to do so?

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        hmmm.........
        Toughie, Lampard is in form, Mata though an excellent player can't quite match the returns that Lampard offers.
        Like you said, wait till the end of the international break to see Nani's form.
        maybe you could consider adebayor-> klasnic, mata-> lampard.
        Klasnic has good fixtures and should be certain to start now.
        You could also use the spare cash to upgrade evans.

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        1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          That's exactly what I think, Klasnic. But i'm doubt if it would be a chasing point and two budget forwards seem a bit too light when compared to those with Roon - Aguero - RVP. I will, btw, consider it on next Friday.

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  13. Red_mist
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    No way.

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  14. Genghis
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Nani, Graham & Bender

    or

    Drenthe, Graham & Hernandez

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    1. Red_mist
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      The first choice.

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Hi BP, how are you?

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        1. Red_mist
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          I'm doing great .Thank you.How about you?

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          1. udit
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            I'm fine.
            You seemed to annoy a lot of people yesterday. 😀

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            1. Red_mist
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Probably they got too much annoyed with my rhetoric.

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              1. udit
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Probably.

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    2. Daniyal
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      2nd choice

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    3. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      1

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    4. PainInDiaz
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      1st one

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  15. LaLaLand
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    mata and aguero are frustrating me 2 of the best players in the league and look quality every game but not translating into points!!

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  16. Football is Life
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Feel the same with Suarez. Looks amazing every game but does not translate into points.

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    1. gravless
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I love Suarez. Very exciting to watch.

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  17. Doctor X
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Vorm.
    Evans. Kompany. Wilkinson. (Simpson. Bosingwa)
    VDV. Walters. Silva. (Dyer. BJohnson)
    RVP (c). Suarez. Rooney.

    I have a few qns guys.

    1) Sess or Bendy?
    2) If Sess, then who should I buy when I cash in Bos, McAuley or Naylor.
    3) If Bendy, then would it be wrong to ship Suarez out already?

    2 requires a 4PH. 3 doesnt, but do answer irrespective of that. Thanks a lot 🙂

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    1. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      1). Sess.
      2).P.Jones?

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      1. PainInDiaz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Ofcourse P.Jones over Brown if you have the money.

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    2. PainInDiaz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      1)Sessegnon.
      2)Brown
      3)Going with sess, coz it is wrong to ship out Suarez (many would disagree,but he is a season keeper for me. Matter of time when he finds his full sharpness. Can bang in goals more often. 9.5m price is reasonable too)

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      1. Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        dont hv the funds for jones atm. Which is why I asked mcauley or naylor. Wba look a good bet at home for a cs yes?

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        1. PainInDiaz
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Doubt WBA's CS chances. They Play Bolton & Spurs and guess Both will score against them IMO (though its WBA's home)

          If you are looking for cheap budget Def with chances of CS, go for Turner (4.3m). SUN could keep a couple of CS in the next few games!

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        2. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Hmmm, Wes Brown then.

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  18. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Team linked

    I'm looking at doing the following move for next GW obviously closer to the deadline

    Given > Howard
    Saurez > Bendy

    I will be doubling up on Everton with Baines in defence but had enough of Given and like Howard's fixtures and rotation with Ruddy. I have had enough of Saurez and just want him gone from my team never to return..

    Leaves me with a bit of money in the bank and can bring in Kompany the following week. I will be subbing the Newc players vs Man City as dont want to take a hit to move them out.

    thoughts would be greatly appreciated

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  19. LaLaLand
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    katie your team value is amazing!!
    how did u get it so high?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      his total transfer is 57! not impressed

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Guessing Katie will WC before GW deadline, or she has given up again

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          this 57 transfer passed, he cannt restore that point by WC this week

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        2. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          this 57 transfers passed, he cannt restore that point by WC this week

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Oh right, she must have 2 teams.
            One for value, one for points

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        3. LaLaLand
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          its an interesting tactic
          i presume she buys the best performing players each week for hits to catch their rise and then sells them on for profit so come december she could have a team vallue of 110 m which will allow her to buy a team with rvp rooney aguero silva vdv nani mata

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        4. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Jack, how do you get so much time?
          Can't believe you actually created 4 teams in the name of Punuru.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Who the f*ck is Punuru!?

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              ...543am...

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Is that why you said im from India? Haha

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  No w anker, I said Punuru is from Australia.

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 6 months ago

                    I remember I said it was getting late here and you said 'where? India?' Or something along those lines.
                    Anyway doesnt matter im not BP haha

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                2. Elniñorules
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  Cmon man. Stop being such a loser. Ok if that's not you, atleast accept he's your boyfriend. Both of you appear at this thread basically the same minute and disappear the same minute.

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 6 months ago

                    Haha yes, alright, im punuru

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        5. iLA
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Jack you're back!!

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    2. gravless
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      It's my cup team. Hope they bloody have one this year otherwise a waste of sodding time.

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    3. schwing
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      57 LOL!

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  20. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Best replacement for ShawX? I have wilkingson

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    1. PainInDiaz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jagielka\Brown

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      1. PainInDiaz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Both are a constant goal threat.( In case of Brown, its the Own Goal threat 😉 )

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jagielka?

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        dont enough money
        Hibbert 4.8M?

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    3. PL Ball
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why dont you keep him? Hes got the Intl break to recover.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        i keep kim now

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    4. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Wilko is more of a fringe player if you can handle rotation then no problem. Saying that he has had a a string of recent games but TP might make changes after being humiliated by Bolton.

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  21. PL Ball
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    What to do with Sturridge 😐

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Make a chocolate fudge of him.

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    2. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Cross your fingers and hope he gets another chance.

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    3. jimski
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I'm considering keeping him til after the Wolves game

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  22. Ray Allen Iverson
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    which option

    A.ade-> rooney
    B. sturride -> aguero or hernadez?

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    1. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      A.

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  23. Football is Life
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone want to predict both Manchesters line ups for the next game.

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    1. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Gea

      Jones Vidic Ferdinand Evra

      Nani Carrick Fletcher Ji Sung

      Rooney

      Hernandez

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    2. Football is Life
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Hart

      Richards Kompany Lescott Kolarov

      Y. Toure Barry

      Milner Silva Nasri

      Dzeko

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  24. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Can someone tell me how to use totalfpl as the lack of football discussion on here is becoming annoying!

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Can someone also send a message to someone who runs this site to try and avoid multiple people logging in from the same computer or just block that computer.. Is this even possible??

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      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        The mods usually weed out such posters. Problem is...they are all asleep 🙁

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    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No expert but anything appraoaching 100% is likely to rise...or fall 🙁

      http://www.totalfpl.com/

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Hi jafalad sorry couldn't answer your question yesterday, had to go out somewhere.

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        1. Jafalad
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          er...what was the question? 😕

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          1. udit
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            You asked who was your gravatar

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            1. Jafalad
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Ah that...did you get the answer?

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Yes. JOA.

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              2. udit
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Angel rangel?

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                1. Jafalad
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  Yep. Triangular and square corner flags: why do teams have different corner flags?

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      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Jafa

        No what I meant is the chat part so I can ask some questions.. Sick of seeing JOA and his alta egos... BP, ChrisKIng, Elninorules, Udit and who f*ck knows who else.. This site is fastly becoming a pile of s hite and all because of some c ck sucking 17 year old kid.. F cuk it I'm going to send them a message...

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          and...JohnD

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        2. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          I'm sorry but please dont include me, I'm not part of joa's shenanigans.

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        3. The Finnisher
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Hahaha, BP ? Elninorules? Udit? Im not any of these people.
          Send the mods a message I dont give a f*ck
          Im sure they will check the IP address and you will look like a complete idiot.

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        4. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          ...who f*ck knows who else... Balkrishna Punuru and yourself JD.

          * Ding...you have mail Mark.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            I cant wait until Mark or the other mods have an IP address check for me, JohnD, BP, Udit and Elninorules..lols

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              The jobless person you are..how difficult is to re-set your IP before posting as a different poster?

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Well not many 17 year olds do have full-time jobs now do they?
                And, i dont even know how to do that haha.

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            2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              i have no problem them checking.. I live in dubai and it will say I do... In fact I cant wait for them to check and hopefully block you u useless piece of s hite

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  25. SPorting
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    maybe i'm a little late to the party but how serious is Jags' toe injury?

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    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Acc to team news and injury info there is no mention of Jag's toe. 😕

      Anywayz, why aren't you on the ChopperToni b-wag? 😡

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  26. KOKAK
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Assist/Goal should not be rewarded until finalized. If it was awarded by mistake, it must be rectified immediately. No excuses for continuity of blunders made by FPL.

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    1. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      thanks Kojak.

      i see your hair grew back nicely.

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  27. HellasLEAF
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Arteta or Ramsey and save the 1.4 for something else

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    1. HellasLEAF
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      having real trouble deciding between the two. Want to go Arteta because he gets more set piece but feel Ramsey might just give me the same points for a bit of a bargain. thoughts would be appreciated on this one...

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      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Doesn't the Milkman do the same job at 5.4? 😕

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ramsey out of the two although I would rather go for larsson or drenthe or pilkington

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ramsey by a mile.

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  28. Joey Barton and Friends
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Does Klasnic have such bad minute played ratio because of Boltons early horror fixtures or is he rotated with someone? Besides Ba who else is there for 7 million up front?

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    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sturridge. 6.7.

      Klasnic intriugues me but is subject to some rotation. Best monitor for now.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Morning Jafs....things are a joke on FFS at the moment....won't bore you with it....just page back a couple of pages...

        Regarding the mods...I've send them an email, if your unhappy I suggest you do the same. Maybe they manage to do a RBJ MkII

        *BTW, they guy jumping in UDIT's IDIOT's gravatar is not Schumi...It's Jack.

        I've had enough. Cheers.

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Hahaha, the mods can check IP address if they think I am any of these people you are accusing me of.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Btw Christina that is the last time I stick up for you when many of people here call for you to be banned again.

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              melt

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            2. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              No probs w anker. If you referring to Triggerlips, Jason Dozzel and LuizSuarez#7...won't surprise me if that is also you.

              I'm sure the mods will find the posts where you admit being Elnino and Punuru.

              I'm sure they received a couple of emails and have monitored the site for a while now. I can just imagine if the rest of us are so annoyed with the spamming and pointless conversations between yourself then they must be as well. It's their hardwork after all that brought this sight so far. Can't imagine they will let it go down the toilet.

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              1. Elniñorules
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Why am I dragged into all of this? I could link my team but I ain't cos
                1) my rival's on here.
                2) even people with teams linked are being suspected. so why should i care?

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              2. The Finnisher
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Lol alright, you have posted just as many pointless, smartarse comments as me and plenty are fed up with you but you dont here me bitching, ban me and BP, ENR, Udit etc as we are the same person. 🙄
                You are a fail of a detective Christina, unlike Nigel/Kylie who actually sort of got it right.
                Im off for now, toodles.

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                1. Elniñorules
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  Ob Nigel/Kylie would get right. Cos they were controlled by you as well.

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                2. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  Nothing wrong with posting pointless, smartarse comments or even pretending to be a guy like some of us. But you are ruining this site for the rest of us with your pointless impersonations and 4 way conversations.

                  Stick to one username and save yourself a lot of time. Maybe then the "old faithfull" like Si,TM,Daniel and Soop will return and make this place what it used to be in the past.

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 6 months ago

                    You have lost the plot, im deadset posting as one person and you are accusing me of being random people on here.
                    In fact, you and JohnD are causing more harm than I am at the moment.

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              3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                + billions... it would be a shame if a 17 year old jumped up australian w anker ruined it.. hope they resolve and quickly

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        2. Jafalad
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          To be honest it's no different to that guy posting bogus team information last season. Easiest thing in the world to hide behind your anonymity on here. Ignore..and they'll soon get fed up.

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            alfonso14...not the same though....that was a once off joke....this is a 4 way conversation that's been going on for the last 24 hours.

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        3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          I've sent an email too... had enough of this mug

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  29. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Last day for voting. For all those who haven’t voted yet, let’s roll on this election. Drenthe winning it outright at the moment.

    Which candidate for a medium-priced mid if you have RVP?
    A. Ramsey (11)
    B. Sess (3)
    C. Drenthe (13)
    D. Walters (4)
    E. Larsson (6)
    F. Others (1 – Rodwell, 1 -Brunt, 1 - Cleverley)

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      ramsey.. too big a bargain not to have at that price.. will come good.. i had to choose a medium priced mid and i chose him this week

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    2. Monklane
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      D

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    3. The Rock
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      C

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  30. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Ok i will repost and ask for some football opinions

    Team linked

    I’m looking at doing the following move for next GW obviously closer to the deadline

    Given > Howard
    Saurez > Bendy

    I will be doubling up on Everton with Baines in defence but had enough of Given and like Howard’s fixtures and rotation with Ruddy. I have had enough of Saurez and just want him gone from my team never to return..

    Leaves me with a bit of money in the bank and can bring in Kompany the following week. I will be subbing the Newc players vs Man City as dont want to take a hit to move them out.

    thoughts would be greatly appreciated

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Howard's too ex imo. I'd get SuperVorm & play him week in week out. if you care too much abt rotation, try Krul/Schwarzer.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        anyone thats not Jack?

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I like your keeper combination it was one I was seriously looking at and works well till January. Suarez out is simple logic and Bendy does have good fixtures. Bear in mind though who he will partner up front as that young fella is out injured so a spot is open. Perhaps bruce will play 4,5,1 instead, who knows?

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        cheers, most helpful

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    3. iLA
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I wouldnt do Given to Howard, kinda pointless imo as Everton doesnt look solid defensively at all and you are planning on Baines anyway. Im also in the play-Vorm-everyweek bandwagon and use the money somewhere else.

      Also mulling over to do Suarez/Ade to Bendy so would probably say yes on that.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        many thanks... my logic on Howard was purely based on fixtures... I like the look of them and am seriously contemplating doubling up... If it doesn't work out I will consider shifting Baines out and upgrading elsewhere

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    4. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I would say do it, everton have a great run of fixtures, I think they could easily keep a few clean sheets, suarez out is a no brainer .

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I'm out of here.. Really had enough of this site Matt D because thats your real name... get a
        f cuking life you t wat... Not sure what you get out of this...? I am only going to post on here now when Australia sleeps.. well at least until you are history anyway

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Please take Jack Romero, El nono, IDIOT and NasriJack with you.

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            See you Christina, good luck with the football and hope our emails work... I hope Mark does something soon as this site has really helped me.. cant be asked dealing with the mind of a 17 year old t wat any longer... I hope they manage to block him somehow because its a shame..

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Yes Jack.

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              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Christina, I will expect an apology once this is cleared up.. To prove that I am who I say I am... I will tell you my transfers for the next GW subject to no injuries... You can check once the window closes... and bookmark this comment.. I intend to move Saurez out to Bendy and Given to Howard... I suppose that is the only way to prove it... I am also considering Shawx or Lopez out to Kompany have the cash to do either but the first two are 100% the 3rd one depends on shawx playing or not and whether I want to risk playing with simpson... Thats it from me at these times good luck...

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