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Carling Victory Postpones Merseyside Clash

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While the Anfield faithful celebrate their Carling Cup semi-final victory over Man City, the minds of Fantasy football managers have already moved on to more pressing matters.

Following on from their 3-2 aggregate win this evening, we have another blank fixture looming, with the promise of a double Gameweek to come.

Prior to this evening, Liverpool were set to play host to rivals Everton in Gameweek 26, on Saturday February 25. However, with a trip to Wembley to face Cardiff in the final on the Sunday now secured, this league fixture will be postponed.

As a result, Liverpool’s upcoming fixtures (wlv, TOT, mun, blank, ARS) tell a fairly grim tale, while their Merseyside rivals have an equally unappealing slate ahead of them (MCY wig, CHE, blank, qpr).

The flipside of this, of course, is that this fixture will need to be rearranged and will undoubtedly, at some point, give both of these teams a double Gameweek. It’s now down to the Premier League to find the most appropriate date to reschedule the clash.

For now, we can only really speculate when the double Gameweek will fall. With both sides uninvolved in European competitions, there will certainly be many midweek slots available. We will, of course, share the news of the rescheduled fixture as soon as word breaks.

While the Carling Cup has made the impact on the Merseyside, the FA Cup will likely be the major factor behind all impending double Gameweeks this season. With such a tight schedule ahead of the European Championship, fixture congestion awaits.

Every FA Cup game from the quarter-finals, through to the Wembley showpiece, will take place on a Premier League weekend. The last eight of the competition will be contested in Gameweek 29, so we can expect plenty more rescheduling and double Gameweeks to arrive for the sides who make it through the next two rounds and beyond.

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  1. Hyperion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Which one to bench this week: Enrique (wol), Senderos (WBA) or Sturridge (swa)?

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Senderos of the 3..don't u have any other options??

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      1. Hyperion
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers, that's what I have it on currently. Not really. Current team:

        Vorm (Al-Habsi)
        Enrique, BAE, Jones
        Sess, Nani, Silva, Bale
        RVP, Ade, Sturridge
        Bench: Senderos, Naylor, Moses

        Nani will probably become Valencia with my FT so the only other one is Jones if his name isn't in the starting lineup when it comes out.

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    2. Kick Some Goals
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Liverpool haven't been looking too strong defensively of late. I have the same 3 players and am only playing Senderos.

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      1. Hyperion
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Bold move! Yeah, that was my thinking re. the Liverpool defence. Possible backlash due to the Bolton game though?

        If you had to play one other would it be Enrique or Sturridge?

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Sturridge, though I just transferred him out. Wolves go on the attack at home, should be a few goals. Enrique's involvement on the attacking front unlikely.

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          1. Hyperion
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Fair point; CS always at risk with Fletcher around. Would you go Senderos over Enrique then?

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            1. Breadbin
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Yes, though WBA are underrated with a decent strike force. Fulham's defence isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'd play Sturridge ahead of both.

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              1. Hyperion
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                OK, thanks for the advice Breadbin.

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              2. Hyperion
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Much to mull over!

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          2. Kick Some Goals
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            This.

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  2. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I would love it, LOVE IT, if we finish ahead of Liverpool this year. Even more so if it means that we get into Europe and they don't. This is after Carroll and Enrique left us because Liverpool had more ambition!!

    If can honestly say, that the only Liverpool players that I would consider for the newcastle first 11 would be Enrique and Suarez. And that is only because we don't know enough about Santon and Cisse, who could potentially be better.

    I'm sure that liverpool fans will argue for reina and agger, but I would take Krul and Saylor over them any day!

    What is hilarious, is that we got our entire first 11, for 10 million LESS than Liverpool paid for Carroll + Downing. DOH!!

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Why will u consider Suarez for ur team when u have the two Dembas??

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Got to have a chance to see how Demba 2 copes with the premier league. Demba 1 didn't have much of a problem!

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Ba can happily sit on my bench this week

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      All good points, you guys have seriously fleeced Pool. Carroll must go down as one of the best marketing projects in football history. Better business than Torres, who at least was undisputably talented.

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      1. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        + he did quite well for Newcastle. That masking agent they use is second to none 😉

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        1. China Mag
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Carrol was awesome for us last season. But that was half a season!! He would have had to have performed consistently at that level for at least a couple of seasons, before being worth anything like that money. 35 mill is a lot to spend on potential. Especially somebody who loves a beer and a fight as much as he does!

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          1. Breadbin
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Chelsea paid for him though. Liverpool said "whatever Carroll costs +15m for Torres". They could have said any other striker though, the clowns.

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    3. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      not quite convinced yet, but with Pardew's influence (words I never dreamed I would type), and MON at Sunderland, I think we might see a top 8 in a couple of years time...

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You mean a big 8, as opposed to the current big 6? Or Newcastle finishing in the top 8 in a couple of years?

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        1. Gaz Downright
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I mean Newcastle and Sunderland to at the very least rival LFC and Arsenal

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  3. isacki: full casual
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    As the poster formerly known as "I LOVE DRENTHE" points out, Everton have a DGW coming up....

    Pledge here if Everton players are banned from your squad for the rest of the season, DGW or no DGW...

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      from my team--yes..

      but u got to say Isacki/: Drenthe in any other team, even Blackburn, would have been a great Fantasy player..

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah more to the point Drenthe in any team that would start him every week (anyone up to about 7th place) would have been a fantasy prospect.

        I used to respect Moyes for doing lots with a small budget, unfortunately seeing him consistently play the most negative side possible has led me to hope that hits him in the face.

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    2. Kick Some Goals
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I pledge.

      When's this DGW anyway?

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    3. Hyperion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      If it happens while Donovan's still there then I'll consider him. All others are banned.

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        no howard? 😉

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        1. Hyperion
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Haha I suppose it's hard to resist a keeper who is nothing but a floating head and can score 102 yard screamers at will.

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  4. Random_Guy
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Kohli 100. Well done.

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Great hitting out at the end, quality batsman. Shame the Indians won't drop the old guard and let the younger players in.

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        they have to now

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  5. yash
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Happy Republic Day to all the Indians.

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      +1.same 2 u..

      and Happy Australia day 2 all Australians..

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  6. ManofKent
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Most nailed on QPR defender with the transfers?

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      probably Luke Young..

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      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers

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  7. EL TANO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    drop enrique?
    might be time

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Missing a game shortly, it's pushed me to do it on my WC.

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  8. yash
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    1 .Vorm to Lindegaard
    2.N.taylor to Evans
    3.Sturridge to Ba

    My team is -

    Vorm Krul

    N.taylor Simpson Richards Shotton Senderos

    Silva Bale Dempsey Valencia Mclean

    Sturridge RVP Aguero.1.1m in the bank

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    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      3 in a week - I don't see the appeal of MU defensive options

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        +1

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  9. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Why didn't Ba drop in price?

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    1. Hyperion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      As far as I understand it, flagged players need a negative NTI of something like 250% of their Target negative NTI to drop.

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  10. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    So here's what I've got:

    Lindegaard, Vorm
    Kompany, Cahill, Brown, Senderos/Shotton/Kelly, Williamson/Simpson/Santon (which?)
    Silva, Bale, Valencia, Dempsey, Sess
    RVP, Dzeko, Ba

    Tight, no?

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Half the people on this site have that midfield, including me. A bit wary of the defence as I don't believe in playing the home/away rotation game. Pretty tight indeed all the same.

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      this a wildcard team?

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      1. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        yes

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        1. Gaz Downright
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          hence the / indicating I have not decided on a couple of players

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            bear with my slow uptake tonight. You're left with an expensive first sub every week with those mids. Would you not upgrade one of defenders? With an upgrade of Cahill(who is not yet by any means nailed on) I think it would be better

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  11. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    A) Rooney> Aguero
    B) Roon+Mata>Aguero+Silva(4pt hit)
    C) Save tranny

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      considering b because i wanna do sturridge>ba next week, which completely ruined my plans to do roon+mata>aguero+silver

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    2. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Either combo could score more than the other this week, I'd lean more towards keeping Rooney & Mata. Free next week makes more sense.

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        ya but then i have to take a 4pt hit next week to get in ba 😉

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Is he back then? I'd rather wait a week and see how he's playing after being away.

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  12. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    this demba 1 and demba 2 talk reminds me of fringe and his dark materials.. gonna get dzeko in this week and swap him for one of them in 2-3 weeks

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  13. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Williamson, Simpson or Santon? Any reasoning also welcome

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Santon due to higher PPI & more chance of bonus - Problem is not nailed on, we'll know by next week after the Fulham drubbing.
      Williamson due to more nailed on.
      Simpson... no idea why he's nailed on. If they want to keep Santon & Raylor in team he could make way.

      This weeks conclusion: Williamson.

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      1. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, I am leaning towards Santon, but the Fulham drub raises some question marks. Then again, this was without Tiote and Cabaye(?)

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      2. Scratch
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Simpson's nailed on because he's been one of the most consistent fullbacks this season in one of the best defences in the league, despite the fact that Ryan Taylor the very slow and incompetent defender has been in that same defensive line all due of his dead ball ability and early season injuries to others.

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Spot on!!!

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        2. Gaz Downright
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          having read your comment i think "if it aint broke, dont fix it" might be the rule to follow here

          so i am keeping simpson for now i guess. would hate the wild card to come in and mess up steady earners.

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    2. Fred the Red
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Santon: cheaper than Simpson and better on the ball. Wingbacks are likely to get more attacking points than CBs too IMO.

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      1. Fred the Red
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks for the much better analysis breadbin! Mine looks so general and template-ish now 😛

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  14. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Why didn't liverpool go for Martin O'Neil when they had the chance?

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Because he wasn't inbred in their boot room.

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Then there's the compromising videos of Bob Paisley that Kenny found in said boot room

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      2. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I'd kill for a copy.

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  15. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Krul Lindegaard
    Kompany Richards Evans Caulker Kelly/Senderos
    Silva Bale Sessegnon Dempsey Bale
    Rvp Adebayor Ba

    WC team..

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Ba can happily sit on my bench this week.. choosin him over dzeko let's me double up in defense

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      1. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You've got 2 Bale's btw.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          so do you.. that;s Valencia sorry

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    2. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Moi WC team, please pick some little holes for me to fix.

      Mignolet, Szczesny
      Cahill, Komp, Richards, Evans, Shotton
      Silva Bale, Sess, Demps, Bale (same as the rest of you)
      RVP, Ade, Welbeck

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      1. Out4GoodBehavior
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        two bales , thats cheating! ^_-)

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      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Szcezny, Cahill, Shotton.. else very good

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Take a look at the Arsenal fixtures. Factor in Sagna due back, Vermaelen fit, his random bonus points, I think it makes sense.

          Agree, Cahill and Shotton rotation risks. Don't want Enrique anymore though.

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    3. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Reply fail... save some £, get another bench fodder for this week instead of Ba. Buy him when he's cheaper next week/week after.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        gonna buy him tuesday night jsut b4 deadline hopefully at 7.2.. with that front 8 i'd have to bench whoever i bring in anyway.. will have morrisson makin me money til then

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        1. Breadbin
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Good plan sir.

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    4. tw
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      two bales must sure come in handy! ;). you dropping ade after this gw? and i would suggest brown over evans given united fixtures and the fact you already have linde

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  16. Breadbin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Did a reply fail with this. It's early and baby is being restless.

    Moi WC team, please pick some little holes for me to fix.

    Mignolet, Szczesny
    Cahill, Komp, Richards, Evans, Shotton
    Silva, Valencia, Sess, Demps, Bale (same as the rest of you)
    RVP, Ade, Welbeck

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    1. Hyperion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Pretty much as good as any other options out there right now. I'm considering doubling City at the back too.

      You probably already know about Spurs/Man U fixtures but yeah I'd be wary of having too many of them right now. Problem is the lack of value the upper-mid and elite strikers are providing right now, which makes Ade still a good pick. I'd do one of Ade or Welbeck to Ba when he's back. I also marginally prefer Bobby Z to Welbeck; he's involved in more of his side's goals.

      I don't think Szczesny is worth the money; consider Vorm, Krul, Schwarzer. Don't understand the love of Stoke; unreliable imo, but Shotton is oop so not the worst pick. I know you don't like the Fulham defence but I would look at one of them or Newcastle.

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      1. Breadbin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks, I have 0.5 in the bank. Santon's in my thoughts for Shotton, as is Mr Ba for Welbeck once I see him play again.

        It could all get a bit messy depending who stays in the FA Cup.

        Sticking with Szczesny, I'm being stubborn about that!

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  17. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Isacki. You're a fellow barfa fan. I was all set on rotating him with McClean on "my wife's team" wildcard. The demba news throws a bit of a spanner in the works into that. But as I mentioned earlier, I think he might be good to go when Tiote gets back. Who do you think that I should get to rotate with McClean until the Barfa situation becomes clearer? Or just gamble on him anyway? Anyone?

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  18. Phaze 1
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Which combo would you prefer for the next 3 GWs:

    Aguero, Fletcher, RVP

    or

    Adebayor, Dzeko, RVP

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    1. Podolskistan
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Ag Flet RVP

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      first one

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  19. Podolskistan
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    who to bench

    A) taylor (CHEL)
    or
    B) R-Taylor (b-burn)

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    1. Hyperion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Raylor; he could get another cameo off the bench.

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  20. Hyperion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Food for thought when choosing your WC defence; I've found it very helpful indeed:

    http://www.soccerbythenumbers.com/2012/01/transfer-window-benchmarking-ii.html

    The graph shows why I'm considering doubling up on City, why I dislike Stoke's defence and why Swansea are awesome.

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Interesting to see that Stoke are 8th in the league, but with a Goal Difference of -10!!

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      1. Hyperion
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Indeed. The graph suggests clean sheets will be hard to come by because although they concede a below average number of shots, when they do concede them they are more likely to result in a goal, so they only need to concede a few shots to concede a goal.

        This is probably due to either poor goalkeeping (see Sorro vs WBA last weekend) or allowing more clear cut chances like one-on-ones, or a combination of both. Either way, not ideal for a defender in your team, particularly the GK who won't get as many save points.

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    2. Fred the Red
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Great article. Very useful thanks.

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    3. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks Hyperion. I'll have a slice of this with my toast.

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  21. tw
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    which two to play this week out of enrique, simpson, brown and kelly? and which one for first on the bench?

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    1. Hyperion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I think I would go with Brown and Enrique with Kelly first sub. Toss up between Enrique and Kelly though.

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        can you give me some of your reasoning mate?

        thinking I should bench simpson but yet he is playing blackburn without the yak... would think enrique but they haven't been keeping too many cleanies recently... sunderland have been playing well but norwich could score as they've only been shut out 4 times this season (west brom, united, spurs, chelsea) and then kelly has west brom so i would think him but fulham haven't kept a cleansheet in the league since december 17 vs bolton....

        gahh this is doing my head in! glad im settled on playing richards though

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  22. Breadbin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    WC active. Question to others in same boat, or who still have it.

    How will who's left in the FA Cup affect your WC? After this weekend at least 10 top flight teams will be left in.

    I can see myself making wholesale changes, no chance I'm keeping 10-12 players who may all be missing for a week. Load up for DGWs, then shift them for the missing games. Those with the original WC could make a lot of ground up due to this. Seeing as City are out, having 3 is a must based on this.

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      And then I thought... their opponents won't be playing, regardless of if they're in or out of the cup.

      Rethink: Load up on teams out of the cup who are due to play teams also out of the cup. Frisking fixtures article will be nice and confusing for this.

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        think it might make the most sense to just sit back and wait to see what happens. so at least 10 teams from the epl could be left but that number could be less too. and we dont know when the games will be rescheduled to or anything so i think its best to just sit back and wait for more information for now

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      2. Retro
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        How's the restless baby? Best time of the day to think about fantasy football!

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      3. Squiggle
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Good thoughts though, thank you.

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  23. Arselona
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Am I being too overly cautious for wanting to wait until after the FA game to do Nani > Valencia?

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    1. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Neither are due to rise/fall. Not cautious, sensible.

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  24. Arselona
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Cisse worth a punt over Ba?

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      probably not for this and the question right above

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    2. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I'd say not. Proven performer v untested newbie.

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    3. Bolt-on
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not yet

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    4. Squiggle
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      In addition to what the rest have said. It depends on price, but probably not as Ba is likely to still be on pens, and he is expected to be the further forward of the two.

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  25. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Morning. I'm organizing a welcome home parade for Senegal. More info to follow shortly.

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  26. tw
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    can anyone tell me who is still left in the FA cup from the EPL?

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    1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Google is your friend.

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  27. Out4GoodBehavior
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone daring to (C)Dempsey?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      no he used up all his luck last weekend 😉

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    2. The Finnisher
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Ahead of RVP or Bale? No.

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    3. Carl@streetkids.com.au
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      With the Fulham Fixtures I took the points and ran with Dempsey.

      Feel good that he's sold for.... someone better.

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  28. Mike-Kovic
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    need advice

    who should play

    3 from 5 defender

    richards,enrique,evans,simpsons,caulker

    thank you

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    1. Out4GoodBehavior
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      richards,evans,simpson

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  29. Arselona
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Drafting WC team..

    Warnock or Onuoha?

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  30. Arselona
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Price shouts for Cisse anyone?

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    1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      A touch less than Ba. 7 maybe.

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