Technical Area

The Technical Area – United Under Analysis

A couple of Gameweeks into the new season and Sir Alex Ferguson has been tinkering with his up front options already, handing Fantasy managers plenty to consider. For the weekend visit of Fulham, the United boss retained just one of his four attacking players –Shinji Kagawa – from the side that lost to Everton in Gameweek 1; a sign, perhaps, of what may unfold over the campaign.

There’s little doubt Kagawa has settled quickly into his new surroundings. With his manager admitting the idea of starting both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie for the Fulham match was “too much of a risk” due to fitness issues, the Japanese star was an automatic selection for the role in “the hole” against Martin Jol’s side.

Prior to the match against the Cottagers, Ferguson lavished praise upon Kagawa, indicating he expects a significant attacking contribution from the Japanese star over the course of the current campaign:

I would also include Shinji Kagawa in the [goalscoring] mix because he is very much an attacking player, nominally from midfield but perfectly capable of taking a front role. One thing for sure is that he will add a scoring dimension if he plays central midfield, as he showed last season for Borussia Dortmund. We have been low on goals from midfield in recent seasons. There was a time when Bryan Robson would give you a dozen through the centre of the park and Paul Scholes in his heyday was good for 10 or so but lately we haven’t seen that kind of tally.I believe that Kagawa will put that right, which with the addition of Van Persie to the team, should ensure that we don’t lose any more titles on goal difference.

With Rooney now ruled out for the next few matches with a thigh injury, Kagawa could be set to forge a partnership with Van Persie up front for United – as a result, we take a look at the club’s first two matches to ascertain just where, if any, the difference lay in the respective performances.

Average Positions

Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Looking at the average position map from the two games, the similarity between Kagawa and Rooney at Everton is striking. In the Goodison encounter (left), Kagawa (26) and Rooney (10) were almost in identical positions when in possession – the latter’s propensity to drop back and influence the game from a deeper position dampened the side’s attacking edge. Nani (17) also played a part here, too; starting on the right wing, the Portuguese star continually came inside when on the ball, affording Kagawa little space to dictate matters in “the hole”.

Compared to the Fulham game (right), the difference is obvious. Antonio Valencia (7) hogged the touchline far more than Nani managed at Everton, while Robin Van Persie (20) took up a more advanced position than Rooney in the lone forward role. These two factors combined allowed Kagawa a far greater in the middle of the park and afforded United a superior attacking edge. Indeed, Kagawa’s average position against Fulham is the same as Rooney’s at Everton; a definite sign that the two are perhaps too similar in style to play together as effectively as Kagawa and Van Persie or Rooney and Van Persie.

Kagawa and Rooney

Despite his side having less of the ball against Fulham in comparison to Everton (60.1% v 70% possession), Kagawa managed to register slightly more touches per minute (1.0 to 1.1) against the Cottagers. He also received exactly the same number of passes per minute (1.4) in both games, though his overall totals are obviously affected by the game time in each match –he played the full 90 minutes against the Toffees but made way for Rooney on 67 minutes on Saturday. Regardless of who he plays alongside up front, the Japanese star is likely to see the same amount of the ball, going by the stats so far.

Kagawa (eve)Kagawa (FUL)Rooney (FUL)Van Persie (FUL)Rooney (eve)
Mins/Touch1.11.03.32.21.3
Mins/Pass Rcvd1.11.44.33.31.9

Rooney’s stats, on the other hand, vastly differ over the two games. Against Everton as the lone frontman, he had a touch every 1.3 minutes and received a pass every 1.9 minutes but, coming on as a direct replacement for Kagawa, he failed to impress in “the hole” alongside Van Persie. The game seemed to pass by the United number 10 – with a touch every 3.3 minutes and a pass received every 4.3 minutes, his arrival failed to have the desired effect.

A look at Van Persie’s stats against Fulham highlights the difference in his interpretation of the lone forward role – he had less of a desire to drop back like Rooney against Everton and was resultantly far less involved in the overall play with a touch every 2.2 minutes and a pass received every 3.3 minutes. With more space afforded to Kagawa as a result of Van Persie and Valencia’s presence, the Japanese playmaker managed four shots in the Fulham match, whereas against Everton he failed to register a single attempt.

Nani and Valencia

The battle for the right wing berth is just as pertinent a point. As the respective average position maps highlight, Valencia clearly offers a better balance on the flank and the stats more than back this up. Against Everton, Nani saw the ball once every 1.4 minutes – while that’s not too dissimilar to Valencia’s 1.1 minutes per touch against Fulham, it’s where the likeness ends. Nani made just 28 touches in the Toffees final third over his 78 minutes at Goodison; half Valencia’s 56 in the win over Fulham.

Indeed, the latter was United’s main out ball in the attacking zone against the Cottagers – he received 40 passes and made 29 successful passes in the final third; Nani’s Goodison stats are 16 and 12 respectively, a significant difference.

Mins/TouchFinal 3rd TchPass Rcvd Final 3rdSucc Pass Final 3rdCrossesChances Created
Nani (eve)1.428161280
Valencia (FUL)1.1564029143

The maps below represent the position of origin of each chance created in each of United’s two games so far. The lack of creativity on the right at Everton (left) differs vastly from the Fulham match (right) with Valencia on the flank, with United failing to provide a single scoring opportunity down the right at Goodison. The latter produced 14 crosses against Fulham compared to Nani’s eight at Everton and Valencia also created three goalscoring opportunities in Saturdays’ win – Nani failed to make a single “key pass” against Moyes’ men.

Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Nani’s lack of defensive awareness is another factor here and one which could play a part in Ferguson’s thinking. The Portuguese star’s tendency to drift centrally when on the ball resulted in 14 of Everton’s 18 crosses coming from the Toffees left flank, with the likes of Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar benefiting from Nani’s wayward positioning. Fulham, on the other hand, were reduced to just five of their 13 crosses from the same wing with Valencia and Rafael limiting the attacking potential of John Arne Riise and Alex Kacaniklic in comparison. Furthermore, when it comes to goalscoring opportunities, Everton created six from the left on Monday, while Fulham managed just two at the weekend, despite having far more of the ball against United than the Toffees.

The stats certainly suggest that right now, on form at least, Valencia is a far more productive option on the right than Nani and with Kagawa’s partnership alongside Van Persie up front looking strong, Rooney’s injury certainly takes one difficult decision out of Ferguson’s hands.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Who do you reckon necessary in midfield for the next 5-10 GW's ?

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      MId: Kag/Pienaar/Michu/HBA/Haz

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    2. Hay Number 2
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Hazard (after this week)/Kagawa, Michu!

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    3. SPorting
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Cazorla, Bale, Johnson

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        The grit that makes the pearl, eh? 😉

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        1. SPorting
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          oh yes. mainly from all the buttock clenching.

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  2. MITHUN REdD
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    11 years, 8 months ago

    Is Riise nailed on ???

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    1. A.T
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Considering he was dropped last week I would say no

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      1. jimnastics
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        He was injured in training, slight knock, he is pretty nailed on when fit.

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    2. BootlegRascal
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      When he's fit yes. He wasn't dropped last week he was injured

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    3. MITHUN REdD
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Hope he recovers from that slight knock for this week .. for me its either him or Clyne!!

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  3. Hay Number 2
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    11 years, 8 months ago

    Morning all....how was everyones Gw's?

    I am pretty happy with 68 points considering I captained Rooney!

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    1. Hubert
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Morning, same (68), captained Bale...

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    2. MITHUN REdD
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      i got 72 with Rooney ... but next week prospects looks bleak thanks to Roonpigs injury !!!

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        They do indeed, makes getting RVP an easier decision 🙂

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Good, thank you. Pleased for you! 🙂

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      1. Hay Number 2
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Hola, checked your position in the league and you leap frogged me with a cracking score....well done mate.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers, Hay Number 2. It's all early morning mist ... 😀

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          1. Hay Number 2
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            11 years, 8 months ago

            I'm sure you'll keep it going.....I am pretty happy going into the next 3-4 gw's

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              11 years, 8 months ago

              So am I! 🙂

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    4. Sidd5
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Good for you... rooney injury surely took some points away of you

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        Only in the way that a -4 to get RVP in will be happening 😉

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    5. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      86 points, extremely pleased but I did play my WC on week 1

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    6. heco87
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Pleased with 67, following a calamtous spell where Clark was sent off and Vidic scored an own goal.

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      1. Hay Number 2
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Wow....you did well there mate!

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    7. Sulk
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      cheeky little 90 🙂

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      1. Hay Number 2
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Sweet....

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      2. heco87
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        V nice

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      3. LMNO
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        very nice!

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      4. Sulk
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        i have wildcarded though. But it was in the plan....

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        1. LMNO
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          I also wildcarded, not planned though but glad I did with all the crazy price rises

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    8. Lateriser 12
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      84, including a cracking H2H vs Flynny. He took it 🙂

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  4. bdwhite91
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    11 years, 8 months ago

    Link for those who wanted it.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      I think not! 😀

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      1. bdwhite91
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        Haha, I failed miserably with my link on the previous page. All sorted now. Sorry it's not pleasing to you, Doorsa! We can't all be as good as you lol.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          Aha! I'm not good, just anal ... 😉

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  5. tw
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    11 years, 8 months ago

    if all goes according to plan i should have this team for gw 4 :D.

    ddg, fed
    baines, cueller, hughes, boyce, fabio
    hazard, nasri, pienaar, michu, marveaux
    rvp, tevez, graham

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      Very very tasty!

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    2. Lateriser 12
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      🙂 Could backfire, but probably worth the risk

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        yeah with a hit this week and a hit next week it surely could backfire but i'm feeling up to it 😀

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    3. LMNO
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      whats the story with marveaux, I had him in my GW1 team and haven't heard anything about him since

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      1. GreenWindmill
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        He'll get game time but he's not first choice - people were talking up his chances pre-season as Ben Arfa and Cabaye were expected to miss the first game or two which would have given him a couple of starts, but turned out Pardew was being a bit crafty and Cabaye was just about fit and HBA was raring to go.

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        1. LMNO
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          Hey, thanks for the update. In this case would Sterling or maybe someone like Guthrie be a better option at 4.5m

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            • 12 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            He'll do ok when given gametime but that's not going to be regular/predictable so I'd go Guthrie for the safety of 90 minutes with the occasional assist/goal thrown in or Sterling if you fancy a bit more flair - not well enough informed to know how secure his place is yet though. Kaca from Fulham might be another option but I don't know if he's got his spot nailed down.

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      2. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        the story is i took a punt on him gw 1 along with china mag and a few others and the punt failed so he'll just rot on my bench until i have a free transfer (at at least .1 in the bank) to swap him out

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        1. China Mag
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          Sorry.........

          You never know, we might get an injury to barfa, ba, or dave before we get the chance to ship marveaux out of the team. There is still hope!!

          I still think that we would do better to go 4-3-3 with marveaux left, and only one of ba/cissse in the middle. Don't think pardew feels the same though!

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          1. tw
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            it's alright. makes team selection a whole lot easier 😀

            haha, perhaps! would he definitely be first choice replacement for any of them? and does he have the talent to assist and/or score if given a full 90?

            lets sack pardew then ;). china mag for next newcastle manager :D.

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  6. robdag
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    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Apologies, repost:

    Current team (with Chelsea players benched):

    Vorm (Fed)
    Hange, Williams, Clyne, Barnett (Cashley)
    Michu, Bale, Valencia, Noble (Ramires)
    Tevez, Petric (Torres)

    3.2m in bank

    Would you:

    A) Ramires —-> Pienaar and then bench Barnett
    B) Barnett —-> Assou-Ekotto
    C) WC

    Only problem with option B, is that it won’t be possible to buy Hazard for GW 4 without taking a hit.

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      B, take a hit and hope Haz scores big..........

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    2. Bunji
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Ramires --> Pienaar
      Barnett --> Demel
      Torres --> RVP

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    3. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      ramires to pienaar
      torres to rvp

      then week after cashley to baines if you can afford it

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  7. Bunji
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    How does this sound? I got talked out of wildcarding so instead have planned these trades over the next few gameweeks:

    GW3) N'Zog & Torres -> Kagawa & Ade (4 point hit)
    GW4) Bale -> Hazard
    GW5) Cazorla & Ivan -> 8.9 mid & Baines
    GW6) Friedel -> DDG

    I know I'm taking punting on Adebayor starting this week, but Tottenham need goals and he's surely the man. Then again, it's AVB, who knows what goes through his head! I was pondering over RVP, but Adebayor at 3.6 cheaper is surely a better option, allowing me to upgrade elsewhere.

    Leaving my team after GW6 as:

    DDG-Fed
    Baines-Cuellar-Demel-Zab-Hangeland
    Hazard-Michu-Kagawa-8.9-Maloney
    Tevez-Ade-Graham

    What are your opinions?

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good and all works in throey but I'm never one for planning 4 GWs ahead ... there's bound to be another injury, bandwagon or suspension which scuppers a plan so far in advance!

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      1. Bunji
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        11 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah good point, but I'd rather stick by something that hypothetically could/should work rather than staying up all night aimlessly tinkering my team back and forth when I should be doing my homework haha

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Haha yeah true .. go for it .. be prepared to change plans though 🙂

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        2. A.T
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          Problem with that is you can end up making sure you see your plan through when better alternatives come up

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    2. Bunji
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      typo! scratch the 'taking'

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    3. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      looks good. though pienaar instead of the 8.9 mid.

      then gw 7 you could always downgrade zab to a newcastle/swans defender and then you should have enough to do ade to rvp

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      1. Bunji
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Exactly my thinking, although I would've copped shit from everyone for making a 5 week plan 😉

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          very true. i think having a rough plan/general idea of what you wanna do is a good idea and you can always change from there. like i had a totally different plan at the beginning of the season for my first couple weeks of transfers but with michu, rvp and hazard that's totally changed

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    4. A.T
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      A four week plan will never happen IMO

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      1. Bunji
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Friedel-DDG is hardly a risk at all, even if Lloris comes before then I'm happy to play Federici.. so more of a 3 week plan including this week! Viable?

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  8. Mrtehbigcheese
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    yo bdwhite
    right now its

    jask
    rafael hangeland zab sub : demel ,c lyne
    bale , sterling , michu , yaya sub : hazard
    rvp torres petric

    but like i mentioned might make the dyer or vorm change..

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    1. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      excuse my asking but is your username intentionally mrTEHbigcheese or should it be mrTHEbigcheese?

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      1. GreenWindmill
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        It must be "Mr T Eh? Big Cheese"

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Keep it as is for now, unless this is your WC. I'm off to bed. It's 1am and I have class tomorrow. Good luck.

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  9. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    who would you like to have instead of Fellaini for the next 5-10 GW's:

    1. My first pick is Kagawa (i also have RVP)
    2. HBA
    3. Yaya
    4. Pienaar
    5. Dont do nothing

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't be taking Fellaini out now if I had him ..

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    2. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Do nothing or Pienaar

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    3. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      4 or 5

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  10. DonDamiano
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    ok so i am not off to a bad start on 146 so far but have 3 chelsea and 1 reading player need some help

    drop a cole and take a 4ph for michu and rangel for gw 3?

    i have seen worse!

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Bad? I'm on 125 and have had loads of goals and assists already

      The scoring is really high for two weeks!

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  11. DonTheSpecialOne
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Moooooorning all. Kagawa enough for ManUtd cover?

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I'd say for GW3 it's fine but for GW4 I'd want a bit more ..

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    2. DonDamiano
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      11 years, 8 months ago

      RVP and Kagawa for me

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      1. Ninjaa
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        +1

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    3. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      You may need RVP for the next few weeks just to keep up with the Jones'es

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Morning! Well ... 😀

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers guys! How are you doing, Doosra? You a bit skeptic? 🙂

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          11 years, 8 months ago

          No, I think you might need more ... 😉

          *sceptic

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            • 12 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            *sceptical 😉

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          2. DonTheSpecialOne
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            • 13 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            I obviously want RVP in my team as well, but I'm very pleased with TTP - Torres, Tevez and Petric. I Don't know if I can afford a 13 mil. striker in my team at the moment 🙂
            Sceptic* Thought it was ok to write skeptic, especially since I was auto corrected when I wrote sceptic 😛

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              • 12 Years
              11 years, 8 months ago

              It's just Doosra picking you up for using American-English (presumably the auto-correct is US-centric) 'skeptic' is valid but not preferred 🙂

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              1. DonTheSpecialOne
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                • 13 Years
                11 years, 8 months ago

                Cheers mate, I'll remember that 'til next time 😉

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  12. Ninjaa
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Already done lampard > kagawa for my free transfer but im considering a 4 point hit for N'zogbia > Dyer/Routledge, any opinions on this?

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Dyer needs to score double 7-8, If you back him to do it take a hit, upto you..........

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Wait until the end of the transfer window to see if Swans bring any other wingers in.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Game weeks 7 & 8? I think so ... 🙂

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  13. Sidd5
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    11 years, 8 months ago

    It might have been asked too many times but is Haz a must have in you team????

    Anyone vary of Hazard coming fixtures..

    Qpr, stoke,ars,nor,tott,mun, swa,liverpool......

    Thoughts appreciated

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    1. A.T
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Fixture proof at the mo I think

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        what fixtures proof? Reading and Wigan?

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    2. DonDamiano
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      must have in team for melike silva was in the early part of last season

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    3. Mrtehbigcheese
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      well his price is definitely going to raise
      its really up to you and wether u have faith in him lol

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      1. Sidd5
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        I am still not sure, I can do a swap at current prices on Saturday NOble>Haz

        But unsure if he can keep it up...

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    4. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      There a no essential players in the league at the minute but his price in inflating fast, so if you think you might want him, make a move right now.

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      1. Jönny
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Before his blank gameweek, Granny?

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        1. Granville
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          That's what Mark has done. I'll let him justify it on the podcast. I got him in my wildcard, as my one and only Chelsea player so I should be safe.

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          1. Jönny
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            All hell as broken lose!

            Nah I can see why you'd do it, especially on a wildcard. My problem is I'm playing a standard league and a H2H league for cash this year, and I may lose my H2H this week if I use my FT on a lame duck like Hazard. Don't really want to wildcard just yet either.

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            1. Granville
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              11 years, 8 months ago

              H2H leagues are a real distraction to the overall game.

              I'd like to see FPL create 2 different games running alongside each other, one for leagues, one for H2H's.

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              1. Jönny
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                • 14 Years
                11 years, 8 months ago

                Yeah I've never joined a H2H for that very reason. Swore I wouldn't let it affect my decision making, that I'd just go for the best overall score and let the H2H take care of itself.... Which is fine, until you come toa GW where your opponent has a better team than you!

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      2. heco87
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Would rather wait a week and be 0.3m worse-off at the end of the season

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    5. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      he got 1 goal from penalty and some lucky assists againts crap teams. The fixtures you list will test him.

      I dont have him but i'm really not worried so much. Last year my friend even didnt got RVP all season but he still did well

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      1. Bunji
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Beg to differ. He has been the standout performer from Chelsea and is the main source for our attacking output. Even if some of his assists have in fact been cheap, it doesn't outweigh the fact that he clearly has the ability to thread balls through to the frontmen just as well as anyone in the league, even in a Silva-esque type fashion!

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          i admit his price is hard to ignore
          anyway he still cannt score a goal in EPL (ok one penalty), he's not great as you think. got many lucky assists

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          1. LMNO
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            getting better with every GW and will continue to do so imo

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            1. OPTA FPL
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 8 months ago

              but their next fixture is not good

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          2. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            He looks like a great player.

            You seem intent on justifying everything to yourself. Sometimes you've got to admit you've made a mistake and move to rectify it.

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    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I am going to wait and see on this one ... 🙂

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      1. Sidd5
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        yeah i might make a pass too, wait and see the stoke game first......

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    7. Hay Number 2
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I got in last week, he's a must in my eye's and I am afraid you maybe a week late.

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      1. Qubit
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        I couldn't get him in this week without taking hits or playing the wildcard. Ill be getting him in at the weekend. If he proves essential then 10m is still a fair price.

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    8. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      MUST have!

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    9. KickIt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      He's worth 10, I'll buy him at that.

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  14. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    So what gk combos does everyone think will do the buis. At the moment I'm thinking foster and begovic.

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Vorm/Beg

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    2. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Foster/Begovic is what I went for - 2 clean sheets from 2 so far, pretty much the only good decision I've made!

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        i changed to Foster/Ruddy and that worked pretty well so far 🙂

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Boo! You were the one poster who didn't think I was an idiot!

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            That's because we're the knowledgeable ones 😉

            I might change Ruddy –> Begovic around GW10 when Stokes fixtures pick up and the current rotation goes to sh*t.

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    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      The Stokies. Either will play and they'll keep cleanies along the way too. Will re-assess when I WC, but for now, I'm happy

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Vorm and Federici. 😀

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  15. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    So who do you think will rack up more points next 6 GW's.

    A) Kagawa + HBA
    B) Bale + Hazard

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      A) by a significant margin, imo.

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Not a Hazard fan, Doos!

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          I am. I am worried about Bale.

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I'm thinking A

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    3. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Kagawa & Hazard

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    4. Ninjaa
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Kagawa and hazard

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    5. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      New fixtures are good for atleast 8-9 GW's

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  16. neoclubber
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    is lukaku nailed on ?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Not yet, sadly. Nearly made it into my team too ... 🙂

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      1. LMNO
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        you rate him Doosra?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          I do, Sir! 🙂

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          1. LMNO
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            Only heard about his preseason really. After that I was hoping he would go out on loan but when I heard that it was WBA I didn't think to much more about him.

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      2. neoclubber
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        haha...okay thanks mate 🙂
        but i know..he will hit form soon too!
        just got to wait for the right time!

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  17. Ninjaa
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on yaya for the next few weeks, I thought he played quite advanced on sunday and he may stay advanced until agueros return

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      First name on my team sheet ...

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I hope he does. He's so nasty when he's let loose.

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    3. stilicho
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      He played advanced late on on Sunday, which is likely a pattern we'll see repeated, his position on the pitch is a function of how many other "defensive" mids Mancini has on the pitch rather than a function of Aguero's availability. He strikes me as quite expensive for someone who is quite withdrawn most of the time.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        I agree. Also I think we'll see Silva back at the weekend.

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    4. Jönny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Looks great. I'm weighing up between him and Kagawa this week I think, bearing in mind I have Tevez and RVP already. 8m for Toure is a steal though.

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    5. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      i'd keep hiim another week or two then get in pienaar if you don't already have him

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        +1

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  18. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Which 2 would you start this week?

    a) Hughes (whu)
    b) McCartney (FUL)
    c) Cuellar (swa)
    d) Clyne (MUN)

    De Gea
    Zabaleta, XXX, XXX
    Kagawa, Bale, Pienaar, Michu
    RVP, Tevez, Podolski

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      McCartney & Hughes for me

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      definitely hughes

      and then one of mccartney and cueller though leaning towards cueller

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    3. LMNO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      tough choices, probably a and b

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    4. Zep
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      B and... toss a three sided coin... but I'd pick Hughes if it was my decision to make...

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    5. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers chaps, currently on a) and b), since c) and d) kinda negate my SWA and MUN attacking options.... let's hope for a WHU 0:0 FUL

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    6. ۩۞۩Tommo727™۩۞۩
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      A and b

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  19. Mrtehbigcheese
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    hey guys what do you think

    jask , michu and yaya
    or
    vorm , michu and pienaar + .5 in the bnak

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    1. FPL Mike the Knight
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      b

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      second one by a good deal

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      1. Mrtehbigcheese
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        ill have 4 big hitters then instead of 5.
        i believe yaya is above michu and pienaar
        is vorm really worth it? over jask

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        1. FPL Mike the Knight
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          I think pienaar can easily score more than yaya this year if everton form keeps up, plus vorm will get you more points than Jask.

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        2. tw
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          don't see yaya as a big hitter though... he sits deep most of the game.

          i'd rather vorm over jask, swansea are much tighter at the back. and rather pienaar with everton's form and fixtures and all the chances he gets over yaya. and i'd rather .5 in the bank over none so on all acounts i see the second as a better option.

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          1. Mrtehbigcheese
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            alright man thanks alot

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    3. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      a) for me

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      1. Mrtehbigcheese
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        how come?

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Don't the Vorm is worth 5.5m (yes, despite his 2 clean sheets), I really rate the Yaya Toure pick and Michu is Michu.

          Jaask & Yaya vs Vorm & Pienaar & £0.5m is the trade off and I think the first combo is stronger.. although I appear to be in the minority.

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          1. Mrtehbigcheese
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            alright man thanks
            btw i also have tevez and zab in my team too if that changes anything

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            1. heco87
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 8 months ago

              Nope, I have Tevez, Zabaleta & Yaya over here and am expecting some points this weekend

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      B

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  20. Van The Man
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Anybody with both Tony V and Kagawa in their teams?? It might out to be a stupid move... Am seeing it as a one week punt... Views welcome...

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      If your taking a hit not worth it........

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      1. Van The Man
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Not a hit... Did Zog-->kagawa... Next week TonyV-->Hazard!!

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    2. Van The Man
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      turn*

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    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Only one , hard to call - Toni v is gonna rip somewhere and so is Kags it's just a case of catching them beautiful pts , yea maybe both this week ,
      Who would you keep long term ?

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      1. Van The Man
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Kagawa long term! Depends how TonyV plays tis week.... Me doing TonyV--> Hazard next week..

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    4. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      got rid of Valencia for Kagawa last night to get the prices rise and not take the price fall

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      1. Van The Man
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Wanted to get rid of N'Zog... So took a chance with Valencia

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  21. baulchy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Best mid any price to get just for GW3?? Most likely to score.

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Hard to see past Bale ... I'm looking at Ben Arfa

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Agree with both.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Stilicho...I need advice.

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          1. stilicho
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            From me? Really?? This has got a whiff of a set-up line about it.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 8 months ago

              Just because you're paranoid ... 😉

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            2. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 8 months ago

              No. It's me. Not Ronh.

              Ade+Kaga+Kaca+0.4m OR
              Graham+Bale+Baines

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Michu, Lennon, Ben Arfa, Yaya Toure, Kagawa, Morrison, Jarvis, Beausejour ...

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  22. HVT
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    A-Rangel
    B-Simpson / saylor
    Thanks

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Saylor

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  23. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Man, I need some differentials.

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    1. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Carzola GW4 captain 😉 Adebayor this GW

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  24. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Whose the best cover/value in Everton then? Baines, Pienaar, Jelavic?

    All the transfers I'm considering seem to involve one of their players

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    1. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      pie

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      baines.. hands down imo

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    3. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      baines and pienaar

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    4. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I dunno, but I seem to be suckered into a WC team with Both Pienaar AND Baines.

      😕

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    5. HVT
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Pinny/ Baines / Jelly in terms of value points for price.

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    6. 1mills
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I personally have gone with Baines in.

      Was struggling to get Pienaar in the team with midfield slots (could have done for Noble, but would have had rotation/selection issues with other mids/attackers)

      Think an on form Everton means a) increased clean sheets, b) increased penalties c) increased assisted crosses.

      Think Baines will score big this season, closer to 10/11 score.

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    7. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Looking like Baines then lads. Cheers for all the replies

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  25. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Never been so crazy on here as far as ppl chasing value was concerned. Now it's crazy! Need a break from this forum as it's slowly affectin me too. 🙁

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      +1 .. some crazy transfers going on - stick to your guns.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Heco, did you bet on an accumulator last weekend with Swans in it?

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          No, why?

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            Just wondered. Someone with a Newc grav mentioned he was going for that.

            I was considering for a accum bet on Newc+Swans both to win this weekend.

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    2. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Value vs points

      Difficult to find a ideal life this days......:))

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  26. Moinal
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know how price rises/drops are calculated?
    Some sort of formula taking into account ownership, current price, net transfers?

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Exactly that.

      Google: Fiso Crack the code

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          This one meant to be more accurate is it?

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            I think they're both accurate now.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Rises are approximately 30k net transfers in for all players.

      Falls are about 10% of the owners transfering out.

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  27. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    I hate losing money! Couldnt decide on who to replace Rooney with last night though - so opted to wear the 0.1m loss. Anyway, hopefully you can help me today!

    Bale Sigurdsson Michu Dyer Kacan
    RvP Tevez ?

    1)
    Rooney -> Graham
    Dyer -> Kagawa

    2)
    Rooney -> Petric
    Kacan -> Kagawa

    3)
    Someone else like Ba, Ade, Jelevic. Worth getting rid of Siggy?

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    1. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Rooney -> Torres
      Siggy -> Kagawa

      Bale is enough from Spurs midfield...

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      It's tough to get rid of Sigurdsson ... I'm holding Van Der Vaart so same sort of dilemna, although I don't have Rooney.

      I'd do Sigurdsson --> Ben Arfa & Rooney --> Adebayor / Jelavic and use the cash to upgrade what must be a fairly weak defence, to include Baines the week after.

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    3. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Wait for siggy for one more week, 2 looks a good option.......

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    4. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      do these transfers over the next couple weeks

      rooney to graham
      siggy to hazard
      dyer to pienaar
      some def to baines

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      1. Connor's Calling
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks all. Very helpful

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  28. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Alreet lads. Any word on a new striker for chelsea? If they don't by another striker, then i don't really want to get rid of torres, even though he has a blank. Is my team strong enough for this weekend if I bench him?

    DDG
    Zabaleta, Baines, Boyce, Cuellar, Hughes
    Bale, Nasri, Carzola,
    Tevez(c), Graham

    Torres/Tarbaat/Marveaux

    I have a free transfer, but don't know where else to use it. Would look to get guthrie for marveaux (I know!!), but am 0.1m short. Gonna give tarbaabt at least one more home game to do something, unless someone can give me a good alternative. I am rotating him with Boyce.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Not imo. You need a decent midfielder.

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    2. Sidd5
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      jarvis

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    3. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Nasri to HBA to give you some Kitty to sort Taarabt and Marveaux latter?

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        That's defenitely an option I am considering. The decision would be made easier for me if I knew that silva would play instead of nasri this weekend?

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        1. In Tommy We Trust
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Can see Silva back this weekend

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    4. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      think your team is a tad weak this week but maybe go with it anyways

      i'd wanna get pienaar and hazard in mf in the next couple weeks for two out of bale, cazorla and taraabt

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        and maybe michu/dyer too

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          I agree with TW.

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      2. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        If I get rid of tarbaabt, I have to get rid of boyce too. He's only useful due to the sweet QPR/wigan rotation

        Loathe to get rid of bale ahead of Norwich at home, and carzola ahead of Southampton at home (next week).

        Do you think nasri will start?

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  29. baulchy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Mid most likely to rise soon??
    Also
    A.) Vorm and Hughes
    or
    B.) Schwarzer and Williams

    cheers

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      A), easily.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Is Hughes nailed on Doos?

        I would have said B

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          More or less. Senderos seems to have upset Jol, near the end of last Season.

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Williams 66%, Vorm 75%

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  30. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    TW. I would say that Marveaux would be the first one in if there was an injury to barfa, ba, or cisse. And if he does get a chance, he has good points potential.

    Though saying that, Pardew has some insane love for squidward, so it wouldn't suprise me that much if he chose him instead!!

    I'm certainly going to get rid at the first opportunity (though losing 0.1m means he is stuck there for now!), though he doesn't really affect me at all, as I set up my squad with the 5th mid being benched for every game (apart from GW1)

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      thanks for the info. and same here, he'll just sit on my bench til i have a free and at least .1 to swap him out.

      you mean apart from gw 1 when he got benched for you 😉

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