Preamble

The Pre-Match Preamble – Gameweek 4

A Robin Van Persie injury scare is like no other. I’m struggling to think of another event that can both create the Twitter storm and panic within the Fantasy Football community on a similar level. It can send shockwaves that remind us, and others around us, just how seriously we take our task.

Tuesday’s gradual news, or non-news, drip of Van Persie’s withdrawal at half-time in the Netherlands’ win over Hungary was something to behold. Twitter was awash with football fans, each with their own very different agenda, conspiring to generate a frenzy of mis-information which even included images of the stricken striker being stretchered off in an orange shirt when the Dutch were actually playing in change colours.

From a Fantasy Manager’s perspective, the garbled noise being produced by the social networks was a head-spinning experience. The 140-character kerfuffle was then inevitably followed swiftly by reports that Van Persie was an immediate doubt for the weekend clash with Wigan. As it turned out, this was not, and perhaps never was the case.

Doubtless a hasty report of Van Persie being a doubt for a weekend home clash has little impact on the lives of our football media. They can go home to their better halves and box sets and leave us Fantasy managers fretting. For us such a story can be the catalyst for change, for a full strategy rethink. It has consequences. It certainly has impact.

Throughout the last few days we remained frosty on the situation here on the site – observing that most news sources were more cautious than the likes of the Daily Mail on an “injury” that had already been dismissed by Dutch coach Louis Van Gaal. We refused to consider Van Persie’s “incident” as anything more than a knock. The Fantasy Premier League did not apply their flag and, as a result, Van Persie’s Fantasy owners were sparred the agony of potentially selling on their star asset, only to find he was declared fit by Friday lunchtime.

He is fit. Sir Alex said so, but now we must wait to see what Ferguson does with his shuffling pack ahead of United’s Champions League tie with Galatasaray on Wednesday. Things will be nervy until we get the teamsheet.

While no one single source amongst this morning’s papers dare suggest that Van Persie won’t start against the Latics, some give Alex Buttner his debut at left-back with Patrice Evra making way. The Independent – probably our favoured Saturday morning source, goes with this along with both Shinji Kagawa and Danny Welbeck in their United lineup.

The press as a whole appear to be split on David De Gea’s chances of a recall. The Independent, The Guardian and the Daily Mail all backing a return for the Spaniard, while our other four papers stick with Anders Lindegaard. For the record, we’re opting for De Gea.

Intriguingly, the Mail, the Telegraph and the Sun have dropped Ryan Giggs into the mix in their lineups – both omitting Kagawa in the process. We’re also seeing ad hoc appearances for Anderson amongst the media and, at one point yesterday, the Guardian dropped Michael Carrick back into defence – perhaps forgetting that both Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans are fit.

We forgive them. It’s been corrected since and it’s clear that Ferguson and United have us all in a tizzy. Not for the first time.

Elsewhere, there are perhaps few surprises. Again, using the Independent as my most reliable point of reference, we’re seeing debuts for Villa’s Joe Bennett and Christian Benteke, Leon Osman is coming in for the injured Darron Gibson, Adam Johnson is fit enough for the Sunderland lineup, Clint Dempsey starts for Spurs at the expense of poor old Gylfi Sigurdsson and Julio Cesar starts in nets for QPR.

All very viable and worthy decisions. Nobody can really be sure of course – these are best guesses or at least educated guesses like our own team news predictions. From my perspective it’s always fascinating cutting through the press noise, now compounded by Twitter’s streaming contribution. There’s no disputing that we have so much more information around us than when I started this thing five years ago. The job that myself and the team carry out on a Friday is a frantic one, sifting sources, weighing up credibility and reliability, listening in and taking managers on their word. That’s all we can really do.

Just how reliable can that be is difficult to say. There are always the odd surprise and, I’m almost convinced that kidology plays a part in some quarters. Let’s just hope it’s not been at play in the Old Trafford camp.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Nibbsy
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    Is ivanovic - Baines worth a hit?

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    1. ColeHole
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      Not in a month of Saturdays!

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      No.

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    3. @BigChrisso
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      no

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    4. Nibbsy
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      Cheers all I suspected that might be the consensus.

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    5. Phaze 1
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      Madness

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  2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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    Morning!!!!

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    1. ColeHole
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      Morning!!!

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  3. garthsheehan
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    Im gunning on DDG for what its worth

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  4. @BigChrisso
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    Cazorla Captain, got a sneaky suspicion RVP may not fire today. Thoughts?

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    1. big oak
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      i switched capt to jelavic
      if united go 2 up today he will be taken off

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      That is what I gave been pondering all night and all morning. Tempted to go with Cazorla myself.

      So many have RVP though if he does go ballistic we are left far behind.

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      1. ColeHole
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        I've hedged my bets, RVP (c), Santi AND Poldi for L'arse.

        Balls out.

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        1. @BigChrisso
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          Balls out = funny

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      2. Phoenix Wright
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        If Santi goes ballistic and RVP doesnt, then we will leave even more people behind.

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    3. McEwan
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      I had that feeling with RVP at home to blackburn season. Ignore these suspicions!

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      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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        Your going against the best striker in the league, who scored a hatrick the previous week., who is at home and against an easy opposition. Good Luck

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    4. tjostolv
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      Agree. If arsenal scores, cazorla is likely to be involved. I think there is a fair chance that rvp will not get 90 minutes.

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      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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        There is a good chance R.V.P will need 90 mins to at least get on the score sheet.

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  5. garthsheehan
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    evening here in NZ

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    1. ColeHole
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      Evening!!

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      Evening!!

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      1. garthsheehan
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        cheers lads... RVP worth THE (C) or going for someone else???

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        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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          See above.

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        2. bring_on _the_fantasy
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          bit worried he wont start....

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        3. @BigChrisso
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          Cazorla is poised to swoop in late and steal the armband from RVP in my team possibly (see above)

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    3. pieces
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      evening well done on the rugby - dodged a bullet though

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    4. .
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      Morning, here in Ireland 😀

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  6. Puzzle
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    Noble or Ridgewell 1st sub?

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    1. @BigChrisso
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      Your not playing Ridgewell?????

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      1. Puzzle
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        This must be a joke...

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        1. @BigChrisso
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          Team Linked - Ridgewell playing for me (attacking threat both home and away)

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          1. Puzzle
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            Don't you think Cuellar, Hughes and A Cole are better options this week? My attacking players are all pretty good. Ridgewell 1st sub atm.

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  7. Zep
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    RVP will play IMO...

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    1. ColeHole
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      Of course-io

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    2. Soccaholic
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      I'm praying this happens...

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  8. waltzingmatildas
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    Morning all!
    On wc, would you pick nolan or morrison?

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      Nolan all the way

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  9. Grabber
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    Test

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    1. ColeHole
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      icles

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    2. Paul
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      estrones

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  10. Drip Doctor
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    A) Snodgrass, Maloney & Cueller

    B) Pienaar, Guthrie & Demel?

    Thoughts y'all?

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    1. waltzingmatildas
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      B

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    2. Damo.
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      A. Gives you options every week. If Maloney stays fit his fixtures are sweet as aren't they

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    3. DickFranDyke
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      A, just.

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    4. pontus
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      B

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    5. Drip Doctor
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      Hmm still undecided. Cheers all!

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  11. ColeHole
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    54 minutes to go, just 54 minutes to go,
    If one of those minutes should seem too slow...

    ...General theory dictates that the disruption is localised, so there's 53 minutes to go, to go.

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    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      54 minutes to go, just 54 minutes to go,
      If one of those minutes should seem too slow…

      There's an echo in here 🙂

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      1. ColeHole
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        😀

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  12. bring_on _the_fantasy
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    Anyone else got a feeling RVP might be resting for champions league game, maybe get 20 min cameo.

    Tempt to C Hazard just incase

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    1. garthsheehan
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      do it i got santi......YOLO

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  13. McEwan
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    Love the preamble

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  14. Spoiler
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    WC team.. thoughts?

    Foster
    Cole | Rafael | Hughes
    Cazorla | Hazard | Pienaar | Michu
    RVP (c) | Tevez | Lambert

    Jaask, Maloney, Demel, Cuellar

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      Foster and Jaask won't keep cleansheets away from home and they have awful H&A rotation. You'll rarely play Maloney with the three forwards you have so i'd downgrade to Maloney and do Hughes ? S.Taylor.

      Looks very good though.

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    2. aree036
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      juss -> beg

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  15. NATSTER
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    Thanks Elnino and Balotelli for answers on previous post.

    Sorry to repost as I really need some more comments.
    Trigger WC now and gain immediate returns. Yes or No?

    1: Wipe out -8 pts hits.

    2. Make these 6 changes.
    Davis & Ruddy ->> Foster & Begovic
    Zabaleta ->> Baines
    Nolan & El Ahmadi ->> Ben Arfa & Guthrie
    Torres ->> Berbatov

    Worth it?

    The new team will look like this.
    *Foster – *Begovic
    *Baines – Rangel – Jenkinson – Demel – Clyne
    Hazard – Cazorla – *Ben Arfa – Michu – *Guthrie
    RvP – Tevez – *Berbatov

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    1. @BigChrisso
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      Never WC on a Deadline day

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      1. NATSTER
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        I missed just a few price rise of Ivanovic and Dyer. That's not so much to lose, right?

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      2. Jönny
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        To be honest I've made 0.1 on people I'm not intending on keeping, so it wouldn't really have made any difference if I'd done an 8 pointer and then WCed today to do the rest...

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        1. NATSTER
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          Jonny.. You think it's a good idea?

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    2. McEwan
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      its the standard team, very popular. If youve gone to this much trouble to put it together, you might aswell pull the trigger

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      1. NATSTER
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        umm.. standard word made me a bit reluctant. 😐

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  16. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
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    which keeper to play

    a begovic
    b foster

    and who shall i play out of these two

    a barfa
    b pog

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  17. Hazard267
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    Which one of these would you guys take a hit for

    A – Nasri To Michu

    B – Nasri To Carzola(got podolski though)

    C – Hangerland To Baines

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    1. McEwan
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      None worth a hit imo. On the basis have Nasri and Hang and wanting returns!

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  18. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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    a)Gorrks and Sterling

    b)Guthrie and Demel (already have Jussi)

    Just a quick A or B would be great folks

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    1. ch33kych4ppy
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      A

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    2. DickFranDyke
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      B for me

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  19. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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    best midfielder for 7.3m? ive allready got michu?

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      Nolan
      Snodgrass
      Pienaar

      In that order IMO

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  20. ClaireT
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    Who else would you bench out of this lot apart from Maloney?

    Jaaskalinen, Schwarzer
    Zabaleta, Williams, Hangeland, Cuellar, McCartney
    Nolan, Santi Cazorla, Yaya Toure, Hazard, Maloney
    RVP, Tevez, Graham

    Thanks in advance!

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    1. IamIronMike
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      Jaask, Williams, McCartney

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  21. Louis
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    a. Lambert Piennar
    b. Fletcher Nolan

    Thanks

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    1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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      b

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    2. DickFranDyke
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      B

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    3. pontus
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      A

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    4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      I had exactly same dilemma and went for B

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    5. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      b

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  22. garthsheehan
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    roll the dice on C........alot of other teams have the other combo's

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    who should i play/ bench? i need to play 3 of them.

    reid --demle --McAually --ivanivanic --jenkingson?

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    1. big oak
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      jenkiskhan is a must
      im also playing demel
      for the third cant really help qpr seems to score and conceede s but will u keep iva out?

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      1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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        is demel better then reid/ more likely to do something outher then a clean sheet?

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    2. Round and Round
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      Bench Reid and Demel

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  24. mahone24
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    Contemplating either
    A/ Vert A. Johnson/McClean
    B/ Cuellar Carzola

    Either one leaves me without either Arsenal or Spurs coverage. Im leaning with A
    Help much appreciated

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    1. DickFranDyke
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      Leaning B

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    2. garthsheehan
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      i like B to be honest.

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    3. Jinswick
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      b) for me. Spurs don't look settled at the back yet under AVB

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      1. mahone24
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        Thanks guys. B it is

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  25. Jinswick
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    Which would you prefer from next week onwards?

    a) Hazard & Lambert
    b) Hazard & Fletcher
    c) Barfa & Adebayor

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    1. garthsheehan
      • 14 Years
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      roll the dice on C……..alot of other teams have the other combo’s

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    2. mahone24
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      B but I like the idea of C if Spurs do well this week

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  26. Mak_Gold
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Is this team good to go?:

      Friedel, (Federici),
      Zab, Ivan, Cuellar, (Demel, Clyne),
      Haz, Yaya, Pienaar, Michu, (Guthrie)
      RVP(C), Tevez, Graham. (0.4 bank)

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    • Jönny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I've never heard the word kidology before... Like it. LOVE the new Catch Up article by the way, great idea.

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    • Paul
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      Anybody with me on either Adebayor or Pienaar as captaincy choice???

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      1. DickFranDyke
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        Hell no.

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    • Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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      who should i play/ bench? i need to play 3 of them.

      reid –demle –McAually –ivanivanic –jenkingson?
      ?

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    • SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      What do you reckon to this lot? (WC Team - 0.9m in the Bank)

      Begovic(MCI)
      Baines(NEW) Jenkinson(SOT) Rafael(WIG)
      Cazorla(SOT) Michu(avl) Sterling(sun) Hazard(qpr)
      Van Persie(WIG) Berbatov(WBA) Tevez(sto)

      subs - Foster, Cuellar, Demel, Maloney

      I know Sterling and Jenkinson are rather short term but they are both dirt cheap and should both play this week. I'll look to phase them out over the next few GWs if (as expected) they lose their starting places.

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      1. DickFranDyke
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        Rather save the transfer and drop one - Sterling for me.

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      2. NATSTER
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        SD - No problem with Jenkinson, but Sterling and Liverpool are not looking well yet. Anyway, he has potential though and I think no problem to have him too.

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