From The Physio

From the Physio – Gameweek 8

This week on the virtual physio plinth, we turn our attentions to Quadriceps: Guy Demel sustains a strain against the Gunners whilst Gaston Ramirez ‘cops a corky’ in training.

Gaston Ramirez
Canny early adopters of the Fray Bentos born Gaston Ramirez were left looking for the nearest ‘pie-can’ to kick after news filtered through from Southampton of a potential six-week absence for their record summer signing.

Nigel Adkins described the injury as a serious “dead leg” proclaiming that:

“The muscle swelled up very much because there was nowhere for the blood to go, so there was a lot of pressure on his thigh…He has had to have a couple of days in hospital to try and relieve the pressure, so obviously he is not going to go and join the Uruguayan team over the international break.”

This type of injury is usually caused by a blunt trauma to the quadriceps. Often an opposing player’s knee sandwiches the Quadricep muscles between the Femur (thigh bone, see illustration below), resulting in a crush or compressive lesion, known as a Quadriceps Contusion/Haematoma, or, colloquially, as a ‘Dead-Leg,’ ‘Charley Horse,’ or ‘Corked Thigh/Corky.’ This category of injury commonly elicits bleeding, swelling and subsequent haematoma formation within the muscle.

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The swelling the player reportedly suffered and his subsequent hospital treatment indicates a significant injury occurred, and also gives us a considerable clue to the type of contusion sustained.

There are two types; the first, termed Intra-Muscular, describes an injury to the muscle belly but the fascia or sheath that surrounds it remains undamaged. Here, the escaped blood and fluids are localised and pool in the muscle, unable to drain or change location due the fascia compartmentalising the leakage. The second type of contusion, Inter-Muscular describes damage to the muscle and to the fascia, here the bleeding takes longer to stop (due to decreased pressure) but the players recovery is often speedier as the fluids extravasate more efficiently. Thus, armed with Nigel Adkins’ summary we may infer that Ramirez suffered an Intra-Muscular Quadriceps haematoma/contusion.

The severity of the injury is indicated by its grading with grade 1 lesions reflecting minor tightness with little or no swelling; ‘niggles,’ that can sometimes be ‘run-off’ during a match. A grade 2 contusion would elicit a clearly presentable antalgic gait, with some swelling, pain on palpation and resisted contraction plus restricted range of movement at the knee joint, whilst a grade 3 indicates that ambulation will be severely restricted and crutches will usually be prescribed as an aid, the patient will be in severe pain and a static contraction would probably produce a bulge in the muscle. Grade 3 injuries have a rehabilitation time of anything from three to twelve weeks. Weighing up the available evidence, it would seem that Ramirez suffered a grade 3 intra-muscular quadriceps contusion, the most severe in both categories.

This is an interesting one for us physiotherapists. If certain modalities, such as heat and massage, are administered too early, or if treatment is too aggressive initially, a condition known as Myositis Ossificans (bone forming within the muscle) may develop, which is why swift action to drain the wound occurred. The Uruguayan’s initial rehabilitation will involve controlling the pain and swelling before flexibility and mobility work is undertaken. Once range of motion at the knee joint is nearing optimal, strength work will be introduced. For a grade 2 contusion the strength stage would take about a week to reach and a grade 3 possibly ten days but more likely two weeks from the date of injury.

In terms of a time-scale prognosis, minor, grade 1 quadriceps contusions may often be ‘run-off’ during a match or resolved within a week. Grade 2 injuries would require one to three weeks to dissipate, whilst grade 3 injuries may require anything from three to 12 weeks rehabilitation. Current reports suggest a six-week hiatus for the Saints’ starlet, however; Premier League football clubs have access to the best medics, facilities and treatments available.

There are a battery of modalities available to the physiotherapist to nurture optimal rehabilitation for this type of injury and highly trained athletes usually respond well to Quadricep contusions, which makes me think that six weeks is a little pessimistic and although three weeks is possible, perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back around the four week mark, which would see him remain absent for West Ham and Spurs but West Brom on November 5 becomes a distinct possibility. A state of affairs that brings Adam Lallana sharply into focus as the main fulcrum of creativity for the Saints.

Guy Demel
Reports suggest that popular Fantasy asset Guy Demel sustained an injury to the Quadricep group of muscles in his match against Arsenal last weekend, prompting Sam Allardyce to speculate…

“I think Guy Demel has pulled a thigh muscle and that could be four weeks”

The footage verifies this as we see a frustrated Demel being led from the pitch by the physio, his gait, indeed, inferring Quadricep involvement. However, encouragingly for owners, the Ivory Coast full-back is able to weight bear almost fully on the affected thigh as he walks to the dug-out and, although a limp was evident, it wasn’t overly pronounced and his movement suggested the injury, in my eyes, as not significantly serious.

The Quadriceps (translated as ‘four heads’) are a large group of four muscles covering the entire front of the thigh and are served by a voluminous blood supply and therefore heal quickly as long as there is no tendon involvement. Additionally, professional footballers have strong and heavily trained Quadricep muscles, which can also precipitate swift healing times. From the footage I feel Allardyce is being a little pessimistic and, in this instance, the International break has fallen kindly for Demel’s many Fantasy owners.

The latest news reports from the Ivory Coast suggest that Demel travelled with The Elephants squad this week to be assessed by their own medics. Although at this point his fitness is still unconfirmed, it does offer us further insight into the severity of the injury, again, inferring only a minor strain, which, barring complications, should see the Hammers full-back in contention for the visit of Southampton following the International sojourn.

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  1. Kazza_
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone know if Senegal won their match n if ba played?

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    1. Congressman
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      Match hasn't been played yet.

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  2. Godfather Bandit 42
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    I miss Tevez already!!!! WHY DID I DO IT!!!!!!

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    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      May still be susceptible to rotation and Silva may now come good so all is not lost.

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      1. Phaze 1
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thats too many maybes for me sir. Unless you cutting Tevez for Aguero I don't like cutting him especially with 1 more int game for other players to get injured in.

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        1. Jafalad
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          11 years, 6 months ago

          I was trying to make you feel better. The problem with Aguero is his price if we want RVP and three hitters in midpark.

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          1. Phaze 1
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            11 years, 6 months ago

            At the end of the season I feel aguero and RVP will be pretty close in points. If I'm right then the extra 2.3 mil for RVP is just too big a premium to pay. With Aguero Ba and Berba as my FW I can still field a MF of Bale, Mata, Santi and Pienaar. Ivanovic and Baines in DF so its possible to be pretty balanced if you want.

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            1. OPTA FPL
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              11 years, 6 months ago

              At the end of the season I feel aguero and Tevez will be pretty close in points. If I’m right then the extra 2 mil for Aguero is just too big a premium to pay.

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              1. Phaze 1
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                If you think that then get/stick with Tevez. I'm sticking with Tevez cause I believe the same. I'm not sure where to draw the line cause at some point you just have to pay for the points and value goes out the window. I just think they were asking us to pay too high a price for RVP this season.

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            2. Jafalad
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              11 years, 6 months ago

              Fair comment. RVP gives you that shoe-in captaincy thing though.

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              1. Desertbug
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                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Yeah, except for each of the last four weeks, but I know what you mean.

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              2. Phaze 1
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                I know he's ment to be fixture proof but Man U's fixtures are pretty ugly right now and there will almost always be better Cap options in the coming weeks than RVP.

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                1. Twelve years a slave
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                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  At the end of the season I feel aguero andBerbatov will be pretty close in points. If I’m right then the extra 5 mil for Aguero is just too big a premium to pay.

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                  1. Desertbug
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                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    I'm thinking that at the end of the season, my squad and the FPL winner's squad will be pretty close in points, so we should just call it a tie right now and everyone can concede. ...umm, er..., where did I put my beer?

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                  2. Phaze 1
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                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    Then get Berba over Aguero and use the money to upgrade else where?

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        2. Godfather Bandit 42
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          11 years, 6 months ago

          I used my 2FT to do Tevez>BA & Gibbs>BAines - hoping it doesn't turn out to be BA-h humbug! i reacted to the price rise/falls for the 1st time.

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  3. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Hows this lot then:

    No i wont get rid of Kolorov after his trainer came out and said he is the best attacking defender in the league and constantly improving in all aspects.

    -------Bego(McCarthy)-----
    Baines-Gibbs-Kolorov(Davies, Nelsen)
    HBA-Cazorla-Pienaar-Bale-(Frei)
    Tevez-RVP-Berbatov--

    Cheers

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    1. China Mag
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Who do you mean by 'his trainer'? I'm thinking of bringing him in

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Man City Coach - David Platt.

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        1. Congressman
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Well he would say that, wouldn't he?

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    2. Phaze 1
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      Meh, it was before my time but I have read all the stories here about Kokorov. Dude has great FKs etc but you just can't count on him to start most games and he suffers from huge drops in performance. If you wanna gamble on him thats fine but just be sure you know what you are getting into. McCarthy might not stay no.1 so leave some funds incase that goes south.

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  4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Demel out for 4 weeks. Damn!!!

    Any news on gibbs?

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    1. Phaze 1
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      prob gonna have to wait till next friday to get that news.

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      read the article.. may be back sooner than we think

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I thought Demel had gone off to play in africa

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  5. China Mag
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    Alreet lads. If Fletcher rises and Berbatov falls before GW9, I can do the trades I want without a hit. What are the chances? Both are well on the way, but if it doesn't happen before GW8, I would be at the mercy of their next performances.

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    1. Phaze 1
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think the - will turn to + when the Int games are over so I doubt berba drops any more 🙁 Fletcher might go up on friday night if we're lucky.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Berbatov will actually start rising as we get nearer next weekend

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        1. Phaze 1
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah thats what I said. -NTI will turn into +NTI.

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    2. NATSTER
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      I hope Berbatov to fall another 0.1, but the chance doesn't look good.

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  6. Kendog
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    I think Mancini should be straight up and tell us right now exactly how many games tevez and aguero will play for the season and not waiver from it.

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Cos that will happen

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  7. Hubert
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    and how many goals and assist each will get 😀

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    1. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      dang reply fail

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  8. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think this lot can do well this week ? Also what all changes do you guys suggest i should do over a span of next 3-4 weeks ?

    Begovic
    Baines Hangeland Cuellar
    Bale Michu Pienaar Cazorla
    RVP Tevez Fletcher

    Subs- Federici,Demel,Clyne,Guthrie
    1.3M in the bank

    Already used up y FT this week to do Hazard>Cazorla .. Was thinking of doing Michu to Walters for next week

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    1. Laserface
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      will Probably captain RVP..

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    2. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Keep Michu. Forget Walters.

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    3. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Good basis of a team, losing Michu next week looks good but I'd look at Barfa over Walters

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        +1

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        1. jimski
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Not convinced by Barfa. Michu is perhaps worth keeping even through bad fixtures. How many better midfielders are there at the price?

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  9. Will.I.Am
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    Quick help please! Who should i swap out for my WC? Who is essential to have in?

    Mignolet Begovic

    Baines Lescott Hangeland Demel Clyne

    Cazorla Hazard Noble Guthrie McClean

    RVP Tevez Graham

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      please, no more graham..

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    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Foster Begovic
      Baines Wilson Cuellar Hughes Simpson
      Bale Carzorla Silva Mata Kebe
      Jelavic Ba Berbatov

      If you can live without a big hitter forward?

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Mingolet, Lescott, Hangeland, Demel, Noble, Guthrie, McClean and Graham out.

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  10. New Ghost
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is Giggs Boson still about? I have a vital question to ask you!

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I doubt it at this hour.

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  11. Anti Top Four
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Trying to conclude my plan...current team:

    Foster
    Baines Hangeland Williams
    Hazard Gerrard Nolan Michu
    Torres Suarez Berbs

    Begovic Pienar Barnett Fabio

    2 transfers in hand and .5 in the bank.

    Considering a short-term punt for Torres (jelly, Ba, Carol)
    Replacements for Michu and Nolan due to fixtures (Morrison, Mata, Walters)
    Addressing defense as last priority (hopefully can hold out until winter wc)

    And advice or suggestions?

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    1. footyjuana
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      Good position to be in. usually id keep hazard, but uve got a transfer u should use, so as a short term punt, id do hazard-->santi, and upgrade torres-->kun next week. this week id start 5 midfielders benching torres

      good team!

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  12. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I want to run....

    I want to hide....

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I wanna tear down the walls....

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        That hold me inside.....

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          I wanna reach out....

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            and touch the flame....

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            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Where the streets have no name....

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              1. Elniñorules
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                I wanna feel sunlight on my face....

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                1. Billy Gilmore
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  I see the dust cloud disappear, without a trace...

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                  1. tw
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    what song is this?

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          2. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            to your grav's blouse.. could go on and on

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            1. Valar(Keith)
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              wrong grav 🙂

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              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                🙂

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              2. Elniñorules
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                😆 Uber-fail

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                1. Valar(Keith)
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  🙂

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      in your grav's blouse

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        😆

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I want to tear down....

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        your grav's blouse

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          😆

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  13. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Hangeland scored a goal 😯

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Well, that's that for the season then 😉

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        could give him confidence and send him on a run of goals too 😉

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Riise assist too...imagine that was FPL and you had both 8)

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Don't tell me you've been sleeping? 😯

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Indeed I have been...just got up in fact 😀

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      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        cant imagine anyone anywhere ever ownin both.. Still cant wait to get rid of hangeland though. will keep him 5 more weeks in hope

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Swap him for Riise...

          Obviously you're not going to do such a sideways move but I have good feeelings about Riise.

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      3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        😯

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  14. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Meh to Nolan.. may jsut get sterlin instead and save the 1.5. That kid's got talent and the fixtures

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      You can't be serious?

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          hehe I like the first comment

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        as an owner of rvp and tevez and Demel/Clyne/Gorkks and Fed.. i need cash! 🙂

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Well my tactics are a little different I guess at the moment. I have Sterling but I wanna get Nolan...RVP with two 7.0/7.7 strikers makes it easier for me. Ditched Tevez a while back.

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          1. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            i sooo wanna get rid of tevez.. can get berbs and silva in for Fellaini and him. I just cannot get rid of a player i know is gonna start this week and has sooo much potential though. Got 2 FT's so can pretend it's a WC and take him out.. cant have everyone

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      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        you still goin nolan? i like the though of havin 3 9+'s and Pienaar.. Nolan will mean i have to give up on that dream 🙁

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          As I said above, I've different tactics so it makes sense for me to get Nolan...but if you aint got Pienaar I would recommend him over a lot of players.

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          1. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            and i agree with you about riise.. if i dint have bigure fish to fry.... Him and Huth could be gr8 differentials

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          2. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            got him.. and Cazorla Bale Dyer(slightly expensive bench fodder) and Fellaini. Gotta decide what to do with Fellaini. Gettin rid of tevez gives me mata/silva. else i gotta go nolan/sterling

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  15. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I used to ruuuuuuuuuuule....

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      ...your grav...

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        et tu berbilly?

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Damn 🙂

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  16. jimski
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any injury news to digest from last night?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      just walcott.. so if you're a gervinho/giroud owner you can breathe easy

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      1. jimski
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Yes, doubt many serious players own Walcott just now.

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  17. New Ghost
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    I don't understand why I like Steve Bruce so much.

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  18. Jafalad
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    I think we are at an important crossroads in the season:

    Do you keep RVP, get in three heavy hitters in midpark and a relatively cheap defence?
    Do you look to get rid of RVP, replacing him with three 7-11 fwds, 2 heavy hitters in midpark and two expensive defenders
    or do you follow a combination of the above? Is there another more effective strategy?

    In the next 4-5 gwks, we could be defining our seasons with the way we structure our squads. Best of luck with whatever strategy you go with.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      With wilson/saylor/rafael/sagna/cuellar offerin sooo much @ so cheap i'd be inclined to go with A)

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    2. jimski
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm in the process of moving to 2 expensive strikers (i.e. RVP *and* Aguero), 2 expensive midfielders and 1 or 2 expensive defenders (not sure if Rafael counts).

      Oddly what has served me well so far is a ridiculously overpriced defence (had Cashley and Cech from dgw1 + Baines) and just one midfield big hitter, but I'm moving away from that.

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    3. jimski
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Interestingly number 7 in the world has an ultra-cheap attack (Lambert, Long, Fletcher), 4 m/f big hitters and an expensive defence (Baines, Ivan, Gibbs, Howard).

      Many ways to do well at this game, and no absolutely right answers here.

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  19. Simon March
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Michu to Walters seems to be a popular move after next week. Stoke have good fixtures but I'm not convinced by Walters at all. Admittedly I was badly burned by drafting him in last season as his form plummeted (while the other option Sessegnon's form soared).

    His fixtures are good and he's usually OOP. However his attacking stats don't compare to Michu's, Nolan's or Morrison's (though his 'threat is slightly higher than the latter). I just don't think Stoke will create enough chances to make him a better option than the aforementioned (and perhaps others) - Plus they seem to play their best football against tougher opposition.

    I am, however, quite a big fan of Stoke as a source of FPL points but, all things considered, would look to their defence (particularly Huth, Wilson and Begovic) as the area where they're deliver the best value.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      that is the consensus on here actually.. stoke defense is where it's at

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    2. jimski
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, I can't see the attraction of Stoke attacking-wise, except for Crouch (who has done well even with bad fixtures). Walters doesn't tempt me much at the moment.

      Their defence is definitely where it is at. I'd be comfortable doubling on it during their good fixtures.

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    3. Jafalad
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      You know I think Michu is going to be a steady supplier of pts throughout the season. Bit like Charlie Adam a couple of yrs back. I'm really reluctant to get rid of him for Mata. 15 goals in La Liga and he's likely to replicate that in England.

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    4. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      It'll be interesting if Michu scores well against Wigan...

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  20. Anti Top Four
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    Quite a fickle bunch...posted at 6:42 but got no comments.... what's a brother got to do?

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    1. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      repost?

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      1. Anti Top Four
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Planning ahead (at least trying to):

        Foster
        Baines Hangeland Williams
        Hazard Gerrard Nolan Michu
        Torres Suarez Berbs

        Begovic Pienar Barnett Fabio

        Considering carol for Torres (next 2 gws)
        Considering replacements for Michu and Nolan due to tough fixtures (Morrison, Mata, Walters...)
        Hoping my defense holds our until winter wc

        Any advice or suggestions?

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          so you want to get in carroll but want to get rid of nolan due to tough fixtures...? please explain how that makes sense

          i would look to dump torres for ba or jelly
          michu and nolan out for pienaar and walters/morrison
          and look to replace barnett and fabio

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      why get rid of nolan cause of fixtures(which are good imo) and opt for gettin Carroll in for torres? same applies

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      1. Anti Top Four
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Good point...was thinking for only 2 matches (carol for Torres) and both out after that.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          that could be brilliant for the next 5 actually.. ownin nolan and carroll i mean. SOT wig MCY new STK… 3 home games and their ex club newcastle away along with a pretty dire wigan. Can see both doin pretty ok.

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  21. CRAZY TRAIN
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Morning all. Whats the consenus on Gerrard on here? Don't want Suarez but Stevie G is tempting me...

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Would rather have Cazorla, Bale, Silva and Mata at that price.

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      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        + billions.

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      2. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Don't like Chelseas fixtures, and i've read uncertainty on here about how nailed on Silva is (Nasri rotation). Already have Bale & Santi

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        1. jimski
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Michu, Pienaar and Morrison should round out your m/f well enough.

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          1. CRAZY TRAIN
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Got Pienaar, with Yaya and Puncheon making up the rest of my midfield. Binned Michu back in gw6

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    2. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      RDG is a nice fixture, but longer term there are better options

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    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Sterling at half his price may outscore him

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    4. Anti Top Four
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I have both Gerrard and Suarez. I reckon Suarez will score more points by the end of the season, assuming they both stay fit. At the same time, for pool to accomplish anything this season, all their hopes are on how much Stevie G. contributes imo.

      Yet, you're bound to find this is contrary to popular opinion...beat wishes

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        that could be brilliant for the next 5 actually.. ownin nolan and carroll i mean. SOT wig MCY new STK... 3 home games and their ex club newcastle away along with a pretty dire wigan. Can see both doin pretty ok

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          oops.. that was meant a a reply to you above

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      2. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks, you too.

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  22. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Will Ben arfa outscore Mata over the season?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Very unlikely.

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    2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      at his current scoring rate it will be about 180-185 points. Last season was about the same seasonally. Since he only played half.

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    3. Anti Top Four
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      That's a very, very tough question imo. At their best I'd say no.

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  23. DDC
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    lallana or morrison?

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    1. Deicide
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Morrison

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  24. Deicide
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Demel, Clyn, Demel, Ridgwell and Fellaini injured in my team. This isn't happening..

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    1. Deicide
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Demelx2 sorry.

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      all minor injuries and could be ok by next weekend.. dont panic

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  25. footyjuana
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Start 1, bench 2

    Sterling(RDG), BArfa(sun) or Rangel(WIG)

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Start Barfa.

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      1. footyjuana
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks, leaning on the same, with bench order of Rangel and Sterling. Though just saw his away stats, not too encouraging at all!

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      2. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        +1

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  26. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    feel relieved when my player drops 0.1. i know that the worst is over and he wont drop for a while so i dont have to make a panic transfer.. (Tevez)

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  27. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    so Mata's got a nice 2 week rest.. considerin his earlier rest he should be nailed on for the foreseeable. Got bad fixtures but chelsea will score.. Who's a better option?
    A) Mata + Berbatov
    B) Nolan + Tevez (+1 FT)

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i love nolan and tevez's next 5.. they are the riskier pair though

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      probably nolan and tevez. mata has tough fixtures and berb has two nice fixtures before a rather tricky run

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Doos keeps messin with my mind.. sayin nolan the worst option ever and is due a red card etc. A west ham fan who hates the premium midfielder in their own team cant be a good sign

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          just don't listen to him ;).

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    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      btw.. that 1 FT in B) means that with A) i'll be using my 2 free transfers and with B) i'll be using just one leavin 1 for next week.. thanks

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  28. bring on Real Madrid !
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    current team
    Jaaskelainen Begovic
    Demel Cole Baines Williams Skrtel
    Yaya Pienaar Fellaini CazorlaMichu
    Tevez Fletcher Ba

    tevez to aguero
    fletcher to berba
    skrtel to clark

    these 3 trnsfrs are on a -4 hit
    yes or no
    or others suggestions ?

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      you should look to get rid of fellaini who's injured and one of skrtel or cole

      skrtel + yaya + fellaini > cueller + bale + hba
      can you afford that?

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        +1.. concentrate on the problems in your team. Tevez and fletcher are'nt.

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      2. bring on Real Madrid !
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        yaya could be a lng term solutn
        and fellaini i can afford to bench him in one match
        really wanting to bring berba in
        now?

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          bring in berba for two good matches? then you'll wanna get rid for his horrid run of fixtures til gw 17 or something like that

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      3. bring on Real Madrid !
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        yaya could be a lng term solutn
        and fellaini i can afford to bench him in one match
        really wanting to bring berba in
        now??

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  29. tw
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    so here's a fun question:

    best XI of all time? (formation can be 442 or 433)

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    1. Sponge-worthy
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      that is a fun question.. all barca players in your XI ??

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        honestly i'm not too sure on my XI as my back 4 plus gk i'm unsure of. roberto carlos and beckenbauer would def be in there but not sure about the other 2 def spots or gk

        attackers would be:
        messi, x, x, cr7
        pele, x

        the x's to be filled by maradona and two of cruyff/ronaldinho/ronaldo/zidan

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    2. Jebiga
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Schmeichel
      Beckenbauer,Desailly, Maldini, Roberto Carlos
      Christiano Ronaldo, Maradona,Messi
      Bergkamp, Zidan
      Ronaldo

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        no pele, ronaldinho or cryuff?

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  30. Billy Gilmore
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Heskey scored 😯

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      and Hangeland scored too 😯 .. the world's turned on it's head

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        shock

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