From The Physio

From the Physio – Gameweek 8

This week on the virtual physio plinth, we turn our attentions to Quadriceps: Guy Demel sustains a strain against the Gunners whilst Gaston Ramirez ‘cops a corky’ in training.

Gaston Ramirez
Canny early adopters of the Fray Bentos born Gaston Ramirez were left looking for the nearest ‘pie-can’ to kick after news filtered through from Southampton of a potential six-week absence for their record summer signing.

Nigel Adkins described the injury as a serious “dead leg” proclaiming that:

“The muscle swelled up very much because there was nowhere for the blood to go, so there was a lot of pressure on his thigh…He has had to have a couple of days in hospital to try and relieve the pressure, so obviously he is not going to go and join the Uruguayan team over the international break.”

This type of injury is usually caused by a blunt trauma to the quadriceps. Often an opposing player’s knee sandwiches the Quadricep muscles between the Femur (thigh bone, see illustration below), resulting in a crush or compressive lesion, known as a Quadriceps Contusion/Haematoma, or, colloquially, as a ‘Dead-Leg,’ ‘Charley Horse,’ or ‘Corked Thigh/Corky.’ This category of injury commonly elicits bleeding, swelling and subsequent haematoma formation within the muscle.

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The swelling the player reportedly suffered and his subsequent hospital treatment indicates a significant injury occurred, and also gives us a considerable clue to the type of contusion sustained.

There are two types; the first, termed Intra-Muscular, describes an injury to the muscle belly but the fascia or sheath that surrounds it remains undamaged. Here, the escaped blood and fluids are localised and pool in the muscle, unable to drain or change location due the fascia compartmentalising the leakage. The second type of contusion, Inter-Muscular describes damage to the muscle and to the fascia, here the bleeding takes longer to stop (due to decreased pressure) but the players recovery is often speedier as the fluids extravasate more efficiently. Thus, armed with Nigel Adkins’ summary we may infer that Ramirez suffered an Intra-Muscular Quadriceps haematoma/contusion.

The severity of the injury is indicated by its grading with grade 1 lesions reflecting minor tightness with little or no swelling; ‘niggles,’ that can sometimes be ‘run-off’ during a match. A grade 2 contusion would elicit a clearly presentable antalgic gait, with some swelling, pain on palpation and resisted contraction plus restricted range of movement at the knee joint, whilst a grade 3 indicates that ambulation will be severely restricted and crutches will usually be prescribed as an aid, the patient will be in severe pain and a static contraction would probably produce a bulge in the muscle. Grade 3 injuries have a rehabilitation time of anything from three to twelve weeks. Weighing up the available evidence, it would seem that Ramirez suffered a grade 3 intra-muscular quadriceps contusion, the most severe in both categories.

This is an interesting one for us physiotherapists. If certain modalities, such as heat and massage, are administered too early, or if treatment is too aggressive initially, a condition known as Myositis Ossificans (bone forming within the muscle) may develop, which is why swift action to drain the wound occurred. The Uruguayan’s initial rehabilitation will involve controlling the pain and swelling before flexibility and mobility work is undertaken. Once range of motion at the knee joint is nearing optimal, strength work will be introduced. For a grade 2 contusion the strength stage would take about a week to reach and a grade 3 possibly ten days but more likely two weeks from the date of injury.

In terms of a time-scale prognosis, minor, grade 1 quadriceps contusions may often be ‘run-off’ during a match or resolved within a week. Grade 2 injuries would require one to three weeks to dissipate, whilst grade 3 injuries may require anything from three to 12 weeks rehabilitation. Current reports suggest a six-week hiatus for the Saints’ starlet, however; Premier League football clubs have access to the best medics, facilities and treatments available.

There are a battery of modalities available to the physiotherapist to nurture optimal rehabilitation for this type of injury and highly trained athletes usually respond well to Quadricep contusions, which makes me think that six weeks is a little pessimistic and although three weeks is possible, perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back around the four week mark, which would see him remain absent for West Ham and Spurs but West Brom on November 5 becomes a distinct possibility. A state of affairs that brings Adam Lallana sharply into focus as the main fulcrum of creativity for the Saints.

Guy Demel
Reports suggest that popular Fantasy asset Guy Demel sustained an injury to the Quadricep group of muscles in his match against Arsenal last weekend, prompting Sam Allardyce to speculate…

“I think Guy Demel has pulled a thigh muscle and that could be four weeks”

The footage verifies this as we see a frustrated Demel being led from the pitch by the physio, his gait, indeed, inferring Quadricep involvement. However, encouragingly for owners, the Ivory Coast full-back is able to weight bear almost fully on the affected thigh as he walks to the dug-out and, although a limp was evident, it wasn’t overly pronounced and his movement suggested the injury, in my eyes, as not significantly serious.

The Quadriceps (translated as ‘four heads’) are a large group of four muscles covering the entire front of the thigh and are served by a voluminous blood supply and therefore heal quickly as long as there is no tendon involvement. Additionally, professional footballers have strong and heavily trained Quadricep muscles, which can also precipitate swift healing times. From the footage I feel Allardyce is being a little pessimistic and, in this instance, the International break has fallen kindly for Demel’s many Fantasy owners.

The latest news reports from the Ivory Coast suggest that Demel travelled with The Elephants squad this week to be assessed by their own medics. Although at this point his fitness is still unconfirmed, it does offer us further insight into the severity of the injury, again, inferring only a minor strain, which, barring complications, should see the Hammers full-back in contention for the visit of Southampton following the International sojourn.

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  1. Piggs Boson
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    Tosey will be happy.

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    1. SPorting
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      terrible odds though, TBH.

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        6/2? Not too bad.

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        1. SPorting
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          yeah. where's the fun in that?

          still, 40 quid stake will be nicely returned.

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        2. SUPERMAN
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          3/1?

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          1. Piggs Boson
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            Maybe it was 6/1 then, i don't remember.

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            1. Zep
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              It was 7/4...

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              1. Piggs Boson
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                😆 😀

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  2. JT's Dog
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Dear mr vogts I would like to apologies for calling you the biggest numptey ever to manage Scotland. It would a little bit of foresight would have given me a clearer view.

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      1. Zep
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        Vogts was a mastermind compared to this tool...

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          Bring back Walter Smith

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          1. Zep
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            He is one I'd want...

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          2. JT's Dog
              11 years, 6 months ago

              At the moment we have Walter mitty

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          3. SUPERMAN
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            I've never warmed to Levein. I just can't see any passion in the man. We need someone with a bit o' fire in their belly!!!

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            1. Zep
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              He has nothing about him... he couldn't even give the interviewer a straight forward answer when he was asked if he was confident of a win...

              He's the manager for christ's sake... if he doesn't believe we can win, who bloody will?!

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              1. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Am tellin u boy, that levein is shite

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        2. Somalion
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          COME ON IRELAND! 6-1! WE ACTUALLY GOT A GOAL!!!!

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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            The ultimate in consolations

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            1. Somalion
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              We had them on the ropes 😉

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        3. r0nh
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          Free pints in Irish pubs!!!!

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        4. DRIZ ✅
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          germany purposely let ireland score

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        5. Piggs Boson
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          My 6-0 prediction is looking likely now 🙂

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          1. Keane There Dunne That
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            Ha

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        6. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          Cmon Woy, Ox has had his moment. give AJ his.

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        7. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          Right, quick poll
          Falcao to score in the......

          now -15
          16-30
          31-45
          46-60
          61-80
          80-FT

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            all of the above

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            1. Somalion
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              Agreed.

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        8. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          For a "sell out" there seem to be a lot of empty seats!

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            How many away tickets did we manage to sell?

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
              • 12 Years
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              11

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            2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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              90,000 apparently!

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
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                haha

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          2. Granville
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            It's an Olympic venue 'sell out'

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        9. Zep
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          6:43am here... waste of a nights sleep staying up for that...

          What to do... get a few hours now, or just have a shower and stay up... since I'm meeting some friends at 10am...

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          1. Optimus.
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            thought you were irish?..if so you know the answer

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            1. Zep
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              Scottish, always have always will... 😉

              Although in a few years, I hope to be a dual citizen...

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              1. Optimus.
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                vodka/redbull is the answer

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          2. DRIZ ✅
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            2 hours sleep shower

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          3. JT's Dog
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Surely you want to hear Craig tell us how we can still qualify

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              1. Zep
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                Hah

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            • TorresMagic™
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              11 years, 6 months ago

              Go have a few hours...

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          4. TorresMagic™
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            Any major injuries tonight?

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            1. jungle
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              Walcott possibly

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            2. Zep
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              Just my pride...

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              1. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  C'mon your Scottish, pride was a long time ago

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                  1. Zep
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                    😉

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              2. Keane There Dunne That
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                Walcott???

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                1. jungle
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                  Walcott in hospital having a precautionary checkup to his chest apparantly

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            3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              Tonight's a good argument for doing away with International qualifiers altogether.

              Just let Germany qualify automatically and let the San Marinos, the Irelands, the Englands fight it out amongst themselves.

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              1. SUPERMAN
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                And give scotland a wildcard 😉

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            4. jungle
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              Wellbeck? huh - should have been Cleverly....

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            5. DRIZ ✅
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              bale for next GW?

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            6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              Dunphy praising Mick McCarthy...wow...wants him to get the job...how times have changed.

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              1. Somalion
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                Wish Mick was still around. Ever since 02 we've been spiralling further and further into the depths of absolute sh*t.

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            7. JK - Cønt ⭐
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              San Marino caught offside???? Didn't think they knew what that flag looked like

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            8. HuttonDressedasLahm
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              Lennon Walker Oxlade.....fastest England team ever?

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              1. Dial Square
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                ox isn't actually that quick. Lennon, Walcott, Gibbs and Walker would be our quickest side I imagine (defoe?)

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            9. Art Vandelay
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              Bale - a one man Golden Generation.

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              1. MICHELIN
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Following footsteps of certain Ryan then.

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                1. Art Vandelay
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                  Yep.

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            10. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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              The diagram in this article is not anatomically correct; the kneecap is in the wrong place.

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              1. Le Bluff
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                BOOBS.

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                1. Piggs Boson
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                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  I concur.

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              2. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Correct.

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              3. TorresMagic™
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Link?

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                1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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                  Quoi?

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              4. Home Run Baker
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                Difficult to take seriously looking at your grav.... 'anatomically correct'

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                1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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                  Ha!

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            11. JT's Dog
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Ha after watching Scotland turned over to sky movies, and horrible bosses is premier

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                1. Zep
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                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Even they know how bad he is...

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              • Home Run Baker
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                Hmm. gotta try to get Bale in this GW

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                1. DRIZ ✅
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                  +2

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                2. Piggs Boson
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                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Already got him in this week 😀

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                3. The EJJ
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                  ohhhh yeah.

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                4. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                  Yep

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                5. Zep
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                  He won't play a team as bad as Scotland every week...

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              • Ginkapo FPL
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Cahill is bored stiff, cant imagine how Hart is staying awake

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              • Piggs Boson
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Was that a 'thrashing'?

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                1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Nah, it was a routine victory

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              • HuttonDressedasLahm
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Why no Defoe today?? Rested for my team at the weekend?

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                1. Art Vandelay
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  I have Deoe but Ade will start IMO. I will be getting rid for GW9

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                  1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    My plan is Defoe to Berba, then HBA to Bale the week after

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                  2. Granville
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                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    Why would he change a successful side like that. Defoe will start.

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                2. Ginkapo FPL
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                  He one yellow from suspension

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              • Zep
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                I'm off... good morning...

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                1. 4vets
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                  Good morning!

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              • HuttonDressedasLahm
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                23 minutes in and no goals for Falcao....overrated!

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              • 4vets
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                Damn... I'm wavering. Silva or Bale?

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                1. Piggs Boson
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                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Bale. (UCL + Nasri = Risk)

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                2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Bale. 🙂

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                  1. 4vets
                    • 13 Years
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                    At least I can now blame you & Giggs when it all goes tits up 🙂

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      Feel free. Dammit - feel anything!!! 😀

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                      1. 4vets
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        I'll be round in a mo.

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              • Parm
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Clive T - "Blaszczykowski will pose more problems on Tues". He's out injured for 6 weeks. 😮

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              • Home Run Baker
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                11 years, 6 months ago

                Morrison is close to must-have. Discuss.

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                1. Parm
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                  No.

                  End of Discussion.

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                2. 4vets
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                  I thank the Lord for my small fortunes.

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                3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Getting there ... 🙂

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                  1. Home Run Baker
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                    I had a feeling that might flush you out 😉

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      Well ... he looks as if he might surpass six goals this year ... unfortunately, I can't afford the bugger, presently!

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              • Chu Young Ping Pong
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                Ricky Cash - Arsenal Gunners25 minutes ago
                I must say that Cazorla has really injected true power into this Spain side. Before Spain were the king of lucky 1-0 wins. Now they can actually score more than 1 goal in a match thanks to the power and skill of Cazorla who can create as the main man for Spain.

                My powerful England is doing work though right now and putting on a clinic of how to play the beauftiful game. We are showing why everyone is saying that England is the favorite for World Cup 2014. We are just stacked and loaded even moreso than Spain man.

                And in 2-3 years Ox will surpass Messi. Just in time for world cup glory!!!!!!!!

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                1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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                  Another crazy,disillusional English fan talking smack!

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                  1. 4vets
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                    For once, I agree.

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                2. Scroobius Mac
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                  If Ox surpasses Messi I'll eat my own arms.

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                3. MICHELIN
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                  Yep. Did not Netherlands rack up double figure goal hauls against San Marino in last qualifications and look what happened to them in the actual Euro12 competition.

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                  1. Granville
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                    And Netherlands only scored 3 against Andorra tonight. Games like this are no measure, it looked like a training game.

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