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Versus – Rooney and Van Persie

With a single goal in his last six appearances, Robin Van Persie’s season seems to be stuttering to a halt as United close in on the title. Having notched six times in the previous five league fixtures, the Dutchman’s drought has had a huge impact across the Fantasy games – coinciding with a return to fitness which has seen Wayne Rooney find the net five times by comparison. As the transfers out continue to flow, our latest article for members focuses on the pair’s respective performances over those matches and also casts an eye on Van Persie’s previous displays to establish whether there is any real cause for concern:

Robin Van Persie – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
23.722.29.76.81.358

Wayne Rooney – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
1.4229.720.514.32.334
RWP GW24-30
Rooney GW24-30

As the above maps indicate, Rooney’s role (right) has been more withdrawn than the Dutchman’s (left) over the featured period. Dropping deep to link with the midfield, the former Everton man has received a pass from team mates at almost twice the pace of Van Persie (2.1 to 3.9) and although this is understandable due to their respective roles, Rooney has also proven superior in the final third of the pitch in terms of involvement.

While Van Persie has averaged 23.5 touches in the final third between Gameweeks 24 and 30, Rooney has registered 30.3. The latter has received over double the number of passes (20.5 to 9.7), and has made over twice the number of successful passes in this crucial attacking area (14.5 to 7). Although the Dutchman has returned three FPL assists to Rooney’s two over the six featured matches, he’s offered far less creativity – averaging 1.3 “key passes” to Rooney’s 2.3, which equates to a chance created every 60.6 minutes in compared to the far quicker pace of 36.1 minutes offered by Rooney.

Sorting the forwards statistics by “Last Six Matches”, it’s telling to see that only Fulham’s Bryan Ruiz has averaged more touches than Rooney (1.1 to 1.3), while the Costa Rican also edges Rooney into second for minutes per pass received, by 2 to 2.1. Indeed, while Rooney is second for chances created, with 14 to Rickie Lambert’s 15, Van Persie’s total of 8 over his last six appearances puts him on a par with Arouna Kone and Andy Carroll. Furthermore, Rooney’s above-mentioned average of 36.1 minutes per key pass is second to Carlos Tevez (34.2) for regular starters, demonstrating his constant creativity and suggesting he’s been unlucky to pick up just two assists over the timeframe.

Robin Van Persie – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
5.33.21.71.547.424.55.3

Wayne Rooney – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
4.54.02.01.229.220.120.8

Given that Van Persie has notched just once, it’s perhaps surprising to see he has actually seen more of the ball inside the penalty area than Rooney, with 5.8 touches to 5.2 per game. Rooney, however, has offered the greater threat – he has averaged 4 shots per game over the six matches in comparison to Van Persie’s 3.2 and, despite seeing less of the ball in the box, has been more consistent in producing efforts from close range, with 2.2 shots inside the area to Van Persie’s 1.8. In terms of minutes per attempt, Rooney slightly edges it with a shot every 21 minutes to Van Persie’s average of 25.5.

Analysing the pair’s accuracy, though, Van Persie clearly remains a major threat. He has registered more shots on target per game (1.5 to 1.2) than Rooney – crucially, what this boils down to is that 47.4% of his shots have been on target in comparison to just 29.2% of Rooney’s efforts, a definite sign that his threat remains significant. Due to the endeavours of opposition keepers, the Dutchman has failed to flourish. Van Persie has scored just one of his 19 attempts, then, (a conversion rate of 5%), while Rooney has found the net with 20.8% of his efforts (24 shots, 5 goals).

Again, looking at other forwards sorted by “Last Six Matches” , it’s somewhat reassuring for Van Persie’s owners to see that only two forwards – Daniel Sturridge and Javier Hernandez – have produced more efforts on target, with 12 and 11 respectively. Rooney has managed 7 shots on target, scoring 5 times, then, while the Dutchman’s poor conversion has resulted in one goal from 9 shots on target – a tally mirrored by Luis Suarez and Romelu Lukaku, who scored 5 and 4 times respectively, while Christian Benteke found the net 5 times from 8 efforts on target.
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Robin Van Persie – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – GW’s 19-23

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
1.7324.611.88.40.897

Robin Van Persie – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – GW’s 19-23

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
5.64.43.22.045.517.727.3

Having compared Van Persie’s performances to Rooney over the last six, we now analyse them against his previous five appearances – a period where Rooney played just 29 minutes, after climbing off the bench to signal his return from injury in the Gameweek 23 clash with Tottenham.

Immediately, you can see the impact Rooney has made on Van Persie’s overall involvement; his previous average of 3.2 minutes per pass received has dropped to 3.9, while the Dutchman’s touches in the final third slipped from 28.8 to 23.5 over the two periods. In terms of passes received in the final third, the decrease has been minimal (11.6 to 9.7), while the same also applies to the number of successful passes Van Persie has made in the danger area – moving from 8.8 per appearance between Gameweek 19-23 down to 7 per appearance over Gameweek 24-30. Perhaps surprisingly, Van Persie’s creativity has increased in recent weeks, moving from 0.8 key passes to 1.3, or a chance created every 102.8 minutes to one every 60.6 minutes.

When we look at goal threat, though, there’s been a definite difference. Although Van Persie has more or less registered the same touches in the box (6.0 has slipped slightly to 5.8), his previous average of 4.4 attempts per game without Rooney has now slumped to 3.2 – intriguingly, this was the number of efforts he was averaging inside the box in Rooney’s absence and not far off double his current average of 1.8 efforts from close range. Van Persie was also producing more shots on target (2 to 1.5) over the first period and while his overall accuracy has dropped a touch (47.4% to 45.5%) it remains far superior to Rooney’s recent level of 29.2%.

Previously, the Dutchman was registering a shot every 18.7 minutes – better than his or Rooney’s current rate of 25.5 and 21 respectively, though the main issue, as mentioned above, is really just his current conversion rate. Without Rooney alongside him, Van Persie tucked away 27.3% of his chances over Gameweeks 19-23 and, while it’s clear his strike partner has impacted upon his performances since returning, Van Persie only really has himself – and, in part, opposition keepers – to blame for this plummeting to a lowly 5.3%. With a season average conversion rate of 18.4%, though, an upturn on Fantasy performances looks on the cards despite a definite decrease in his overall threat since Rooney’s return to the United XI.

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  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Hey Acqua...

    love the new grav...the colour red really suits you

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      it's more pink though

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        it's not green though

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          I bet your eyes are perennially red 😉

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Why do you think I wear shades?

            😎

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            1. Billy Gilmore
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              😀

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          😀

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  2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    So with GW33, the arrangement where the loser will still have a DGW is still in place? i.e. Chelsea/united match

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      pretty much

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  3. Billy Gilmore
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    Old School:

    http://i.imgur.com/301MXlO.png

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      You sir are a top man...

      many thanks

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        No problem...took all of 5 mins... 🙂

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          would of taken me 5 hours 🙁

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            I reckon half an hour of trying then giving in and putting it on your forehead, Gaz-style 🙂

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              I would have struggled just to do that.. I really have not got a clue about a lot of this stuff.... That's what my secretary is for 😉

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              1. Billy Gilmore
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                Oh, is that what secretaries are for? 😉

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                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                  normally.. Christina's secretary might beg to differ though

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    2. Zep
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      That Sri Lankan flag looks great as a backdrop in a grav...

      Nice work...

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Not quite the quality of your indian flag on your face... 😉

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        1. Zep
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          It doesn't look like someone's taken a big slice out of my nose? 😀

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            No, just stamped it a bit too vigorously... 😉 😀

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            1. Zep
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              But that layer was 60% opacity...

              Any lighter and you can't really see it...

              I might make it 50...

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              1. Billy Gilmore
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                I love how it misses your chin... 🙂

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  4. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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    @Berbilly
    Any space for me in Aussie team?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      You're one of the front-runners for the spot atm. We've had loads of applicants so far though.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Waiting for our full coaching team to be back from holiday before we make any decisions.

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      2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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        When did I apply? 😕

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          When you emailed me.

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            😀

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          2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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            I thought that email never reached you. 🙄

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            1. TokyoRed 東京赤
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              You're Indian aren't you Messimerized?

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              1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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                Yes?

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            2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              no mata

              😯

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  5. Blue Lion
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    Hello Gentlemen!
    How ya doing?

    How I wish this Int. break ends soon!

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  6. Blue Lion
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    Looks like I'm being Unsold for ICC Champions Trophy.Still no any response from Caps/Coaches.

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      🙁

      No 1Mata?

      😯

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      1. Blue Lion
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        Yes. Unfortunately!

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    2. Ryan
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      You might get a response (eventually) if you say this on the other post

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      1. Ryan
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        your rank is really good so you should be picked up by some team

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        1. Blue Lion
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          Hope So.
          Cheers Ryan!

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      2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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        Are people still posting on that post? 😯

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        1. Ryan
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          Of course

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        2. SPorting
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          Yes. It's the official ICC thread.

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      Would be a blessing!
      We've got a very talented squad.A World class coach like Mourinho can turn them into worldbeaters.
      Our Billionaire Owner needs to give up trigger-pulling habit & should look forward to future.

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          suicide apparently ???

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          1. Ryan
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            😯 I'm not sure that was suicide

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              agree... seems very suspicious....

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          2. Blue Lion
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            You went too long. 😀 I was referring to sacking of Manager.

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    2. Castiel
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      Supposedly he recently bought back his old house in London and his daughter is going to one of the unis there in september. Hope he does come back bit of character to the prem again

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      1. Ryan
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        Swapping one for another I suppose. Rafa will be gone

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    3. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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      Did you watch the Waratahs - Blues games? 🙂

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        The first half. What was the final score in the end?

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        1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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          30-27 to the Tahs.
          Penalty after the siren, pretty exciting game.

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          1. Ryan
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            Damn 🙁 it was all rosy at half time. Well done to your Tahs

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            1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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              Decent comeback. Was pretty surprised by the result to be honest as we haven't been travelling very well.

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              1. Ryan
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                It was in Sydney

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                1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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                  I meant travelling as in "we haven't been going very well"

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  8. Jafooli
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    Ola Dz, how did everyone get on last night? I got no points and have none to play 🙁

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      hahahaha

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  9. SPorting
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    Let's not clutter the place and confuse the normal people. ICC thread here gents:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/03/21/ffs-uefa-council-icc-tournament-details-2/#comments

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    1. Blue Lion
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      Thanks for the info Sporting.

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    2. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
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      Hi Sporting
      Thanks for posting that. It's great to know you ICC high fliers are still willing to think of the needs of the lowly, easily confused 'normal people'.
      Good job this side-comp hasn't turned the regular posters into a bunch of elitist snobs.
      Lots of love, Caz.
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        😯

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  10. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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    Can the creative geniuses on FFS come up with an idea for a poem I can write?

    I hate English.

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      I would say that "I hate English" isn't the best subject for a poem.

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        I don't know... I reckon it could be a pretty decent topic to write about

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      2. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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        Would be quite the ironic poem.

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        1. Ryan
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          Your teacher might not like it.

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    2. Ryan
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      Poems can be about anything really. From your backyard to social life to european financial crises. Just do something you're interested in.

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      1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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        Sound advice. Oh well, whatever the topic, it's going to be terrible anyway 🙂

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        1. Ryan
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          If its seriously a topic your interested in you'll probably enjoy it more. Try to make it fun, perhaps by taking the micky out of something.

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    3. TokyoRed 東京赤
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      Berbatov, poetry in motion

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  11. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    has my grav changed yet? Hasn't on my screen

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      About half an hour ago... 🙂

      Clear your cache.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        hmmmmm... how do i do that?

        Using google chrome

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        1. Ryan
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          apple or pc?

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            Never mind just worked it out...thanks anyway.... blimey, that was pretty easy

            Love the grav 🙂

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            1. Ryan
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              Cheers. That Sri Lankan flag looks good in yours as well. Considering a similar background myself (NZ flag?)

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  12. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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    So we've had music and movies....who's everyone's favourite comedian?

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      Acquafresca

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      1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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        😆

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    2. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
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      Bill Hicks

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      1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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        Don't mind a bit of Bill Hicks

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    3. jimski
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      Stuart Lee.

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      1. jimski
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        Stewart* Lee is who I meant obviously. Too early for me....

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            that is bloody hilarious 😆

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          I like him too, and Bill Hicks, both pretty smart guys

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          1. TokyoRed 東京赤
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            Team India like Russell Peters and Danny Bhoy

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  13. Ryan
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    Just wondering. Did England cricket fans expect to lose a test series to NZ before the Ashes 😉

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      😀

      Aussies aren't doing much better though. Can't bat for peanuts!

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      1. Ryan
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        Aussie cricket is in a bad way but they'll take heart by Englands relatively poor form in tests. The Ashes could go either way

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          Not too optimistic going into the Ashes. Don't rate any of our batsmen apart from Clarke.

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          1. Ryan
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            I don't rate the entire NZ team for the most part but we seem to be doing alright.

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  14. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Walcott > Cazorla

    No brainer

    Discuss.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        😆

        yep, thanks 😀

        I take it Doos got the gold anorak?

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        1. Anorak
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          Need to find him so I can present it, but yes. Bronze one still up for grabs.

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    1. Ryan
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      Nope. Bench Walcott instead for the coming GW and get in Caz before the DGW then you'll have both of them

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Bench him and play 1 point Puncheon? Isn't benching him the coward's move? Why not just sell if he's injured...he'll be cheaper later.

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        1. Ryan
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          Nope. Get yourself an extra DGWer by selling Puncheon for one instead.

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  15. Evs
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    Right, my fpl team is lit up like a Christmas tree.

    Walcott. Dawson, bunn and now Sessengone (yes, still have him)

    When did he get crocked?

    Does he even play for France (he is French isnt he?) ?!

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      🙄

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        Gee - thanks !

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          He's from Benin

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          1. Evs
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            Is he, oh right.

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      That's a shame as he's Benin better form since he was moved back out wide.

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        😉

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      2. Evs
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        Awful Anorak, just awful 🙂

        I expected better 😆

        Anyway here's the fake intl injury link - but probably only I am intresreted

        http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-benins-sessegnon-pulls-world-cup-qualifier-184603576.html

        He's off soon, but not this week...

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        1. Anorak
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          Agreed. Looks like a week long 'Injury'.
          Probably been playing with it for the last few weeks (months?). I think that is the case with loads of players. None of them seem to be 100% fit, but we only notice an 'injury' when they miss games.

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        For 30-odd weeks into the season that's pretty damn good.

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        1. Anorak
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          Scout solidarity. Cheers Stili!

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      You're ok, you don't need to worry about Bunn and Dawson could be back soon but he's a defender so it doesn't matter much. With your midfield you could bench Wally and sell the Sess for a DGWer

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      1. Evs
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        Problem is Ryan this week I was doing Berba in for Ba - and keeping my trade to sort others out.

        Need to keep the ft in order to get Santi in and Maloney for sess and siss. Then was also looking at Felliani maybe of rmichu.

        It's difficult for me to move the correct pieces.

        I just dont know if its safe to sit on Ba this Gw.

        I believe he's not fa cup tied?

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        1. Anorak
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          I'd keep Dawson if I were you. Didn't look injured at all leading up to HT vs Fulham. The team needed a tactical shift, so removing a CB made some sense.

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        2. Ryan
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          At least wait for the FA cup game you'll know more about Ba then. Hopefully some of those 'international injuries' will clear up as well. Sit on Wally if you can and Michu can be kept for another game.

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        3. Ryan
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          Is Sess -> Fellaini an option?

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          1. Evs
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            Would be if he wasnt banned !

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            1. Ryan
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              Of course. Perhaps just Sess -> Maloney then? Then Michu to Fellaini at a later date.

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              1. Evs
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                Hmmm, I may ponder that - good alternative as interim just to ensure cover.

                Cheers mate.

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                1. Evs
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                  ... But I may need to hold my 2nd ft incase Chelsea get the dgw over united.

                  No Chelsea cover - sit tight for a few days, hopefully Theo be OK for this week but I can't see it 🙁

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                  1. Ryan
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                    He won't play. If you can bench him with no issues then that would be ideal.

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      1. Evs
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        Thanks fella 🙂

        Nice to see him fit again 😉

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  16. royals forever
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    11 years, 1 month ago

    Bearing in mind the DGWs and blanks coming up in your opinion who do you think is the best 4.3 DF or the best 6.0m MF to have now

    Rest of Team

    Begovic Jassk

    Zabaleta Garrido Demel Clyne

    Bale Cazorla Lampard Maloney

    Benteke Suarez Rooney

    Any help and comments would be appreciated

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    1. Evs
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      Maloney nice cheap option ahead of the Wigan dgw - and could be benchwarmer until it arrives.

      You now have extra 1m to spend on df or elsewhere 😉

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      1. Evs
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        Sorry, you got Maloney 😆

        Townsend maybe? 4.5m

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    2. Ryan
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      Def: Martin
      Mid: A DGW punt such as Nolan?

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  17. Gaz Downright
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    How did you do in the MLS fantasy?

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    1. meerlight
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      80 (-4) 😎

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  18. Christina.
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    What's this about the WI team withdrawing?

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    1. Evs
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      News to me.

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      1. Christina.
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        ....sorry Stilicho...I know I know...wrong thread...!

        @evs/Sporting...why the grav change then?

        Im fed up with this ICC nonsense anyway. I have a mini league to win.

        *logs off

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        1. Evs
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          Gene hunt is my lucky grav - if I switch its only ever temporary for few days 🙂

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    2. stilicho
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      *throws in the towel(ie)*

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      1. Evs
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        Don't you start with the awful Puns - did mark hand out bad joke handbooks to all scouts last night 😉

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        1. stilicho
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          🙂

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Nah, just that they want rid of some transexual saffer potato who has never finished higher than 4k

      LOL

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      1. stilicho
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        I just googled "do potatoes have genders?"

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          1. stilicho
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            QED

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  19. Evs
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    I'm amazed he's only 24....

    'Manchester United's Brazilian midfielder Anderson is set to leave Old Trafford this summer. The 24-year-old wants to be playing regular first-team football before the 2014 World Cup, which will be staged in his home country'

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    1. stilicho
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      Crikey me too, feels like he's been around for ever.

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      1. Evs
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        Surely that's wrong?!

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
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      😀

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  20. Evs
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    Just to ensure my understanding is correct...

    Ba is NOT fa cup tied for Chelsea?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      true

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      1. Evs
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        Thought so, he's first on my hit list to sell then. . .

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        1. Tommytour
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          Yep Torres front runner to start sot

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  21. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Walcott must go...

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    1. Tommytour
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      Puncheon > Maloney, bench Theo

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        hmmm...but why not get Cazorla?

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        1. Tommytour
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          If you can afford Punch > Cazorla go for it 😉

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          1. Tommytour
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            11 years, 1 month ago

            I have same midfield as you and am likely to do Michu > Cazorla and play Ramirez (similar to Punch ) you will want Walcott for double so selling then rebuying will cost two transfers. However if you believe Michu will cover 4 points for the transfer by playing him above Punch then Walcott > Cazorla is acceptable.

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              thanks

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        2. Ryan
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          Sell Michu for Caz at a latter date and have both Caz and Wally. Puncheon -> Maloney makes sense.

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Why not sell Michu for Walcott when needed and not bench a 9m midfielder?

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      to my bench

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      1. Ryan
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        +1

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  22. Tommytour
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    Think I'm going to have to look at benching either Bale or Michu for 33 otherwise my 36 Dgw team is going to look pants.

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    1. Evs
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      This is my issue - sell one for Felliani and bench one.

      Form v Key Dgw player (out of form). ?

      #tricky

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      1. Tommytour
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        I'd rather Bale, Michu has tough games either side

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        1. Evs
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          Fair but, will you want Michu for the dgw ?

          I bought at 6.5m - ruins my budget - but my patience is also waining . . .

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            11 years, 1 month ago

            right now I'm looking at wc Michu out in 32 then buyinh him back in 34, but much of what i do will be dependent on who wins the replay

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          2. Tommytour
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            11 years, 1 month ago

            Not too fussed to be honest, fixtures don't get me excited, I'm looking at loading up on City players from 35 be great differentials to finish.

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  23. jimski
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    11 years, 1 month ago

    If you had Fellaini and Walcott, and exact money to do Walcott -> Cazorla for a free, would you think it's the best thing to do?

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    1. Evs
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      Depends on

      1. How long Walcott is out for
      2. If he fit for the dgw would you want him back to team up with Cazorla?

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      1. jimski
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        11 years, 1 month ago

        I would want him back, yes, that's the trouble.

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    2. Ryan
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      11 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on whether you would be confident with 442 formation for a GW or two.

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      1. jimski
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I guess you mean 4-3-3? Trouble is I'm not confident on RVP's gametime either...

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  24. bdwhite91
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    11 years, 1 month ago

    Why y'all acting 'spicious?

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  25. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    11 years, 1 month ago

    I've come to the conclusion that everyone telling me to bench Walcott/not sell Walcott are those that got him at a low price. But in my case, I've already lost 0.1m on him because of my faith in him.

    So if he is indeed injured enough to miss the Reading game, he has to go. No dilly dallying. There is another GW (32) before the DGW comes around so I don't see why people are treating him like a precious pearl. Unless it's those that got him cheap and aren't bothered by the price falls.

    Therefore, I have decided to ignore all good advice and do whatever feels right for me.

    🙂

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    1. bdwhite91
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      11 years, 1 month ago

      I just don't want to take hits when I'm fighting to win a kit. I'm trying to hold on to as many DGW players as I can and slowly build up towards GW33. Transfers are precious at this point in the season.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yes but what good is holding onto an injured 9m midfielder when he was meant to be playing Reading at home?

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        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Because following he has wba NOR/ EVE

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            But so does Cazorla.

            What's wrong with having Cazorla for RDG wba NOR/EVE

            and getting back a fit Wally for NOR/EVE

            ?

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    2. Ryan
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      11 years, 1 month ago

      If you are happy with one less DGWer then sure otherwise every FT should b spent selling a single GW player for a DGWer

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        The thing is though, selling Michu post GW32 would be worth a 4 point hit either way. He has a blank in GW33. so using a transfer on him would a) inevitable and b) worth a 4 point hit because it's for a DGWer

        Does this logic make sense?

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    3. Tommytour
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      It's nothing to do with his price at all, it's all about using up two precious transfers

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        sure ok. But how about the fact that a) I was going to get Cazorla in regardless and b) now it just means my FT will be used on getting a fit again Walcott later on...

        I know it wastes a transfer so to speak but what can you do if Wally is injured? The home fixture to Reading was so appealing...now I have no coverage of that and Caz will be infinitely more expensive if he does anything with a DGW coming up!

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        1. Tommytour
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          In your case it's basically can Cazorla Michu outscore Cazorla Puncheon by 4 points to cover the extra transfer

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  26. JELLYFISH
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    He plays for the 'arris

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  27. Lord Flashheart
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    11 years, 1 month ago

    Repost from last night - will appreciate views:

    So, after a week of attending a new born baby and a second time mom, it’s about time to focus again on the almost as important things…

    I have a plan, and would welcome poking holes in it. Since the pages move very slow, I would urge you comment on my plan rather than finding better hobbies till this international week is over.

    Current team:
    Mignolet Federici
    GJ, samba, Dawson, demel, Davies
    Mata bale Walcott michu sissoko
    Rooney, Suarez, benteke
    1.2 in the bank

    Here are my thoughts:
    1 – This gw – michu and benteke for cazorla and berba (better fixtures than benteke and Dgw and allowing me to get caz for michu)
    2 – before gw32 - do nothing
    3 – Before gw 33 – baines fellaini and giroud for Davies bale and Suarez (assuming Suarez can’t last more than two games without a yellow and bale has either a blank or che away) if Suarez still alive then no hit and no giroud.
    4 - before gw34 - bale is back for sissoko.

    This gives me 1 or 2 hits, and the Dgw all star team of Walcott, caz, baines, fellaini, Rooney or mata, berba, demel and giroud (or no giroud and only 1 hit)

    Fire away!

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    1. Evs
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      1 - good
      2 - good
      3 - good

      Q- How may points hits?
      Q - your happy to sit on injured theo?

      Ps - congrats on the baby 🙂

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        Cheers 1 hit happy and cheers again 🙂

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  28. Evs
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    Wow just been doing some compare the meerkat on Sissoko v Walcott (last 6)

    I'm surprised on Sissokos involvement despite his great start...

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Sissoko is a red herring

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      1. Evs
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        11 years, 1 month ago

        A fish?

        Wow.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          11 years, 1 month ago

          Not quite... 🙂

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        2. Dr Dream
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          11 years, 1 month ago

          tell us more...

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      2. stilicho
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        That shouldn't have made me hungry

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  29. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    United better win this damn replay, most of what I have noted down is dependant on Chelsea having a DGW in 33 and would leave me with 8 in 33 and 10 in 36.

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    1. Evs
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      That would kill my team / plans.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        It wouldn't be too bad for me, I'd probably just have to take Pienaar or a United mid over Hazard on the wc

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        1. Evs
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          I have no Chelsa and probably DDG is my only keeper due to Bunn / Ruddy return !

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            well i have Migs who i don;t much fancy this week. But wc in 32 for me 😎

            So i can save in 33 then in 34 i can bring in Maloney and Michu.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      Worst case scenario, imo.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        It is for most for some reason. Most people seem to be preferring a United DGW for 33.

        Having no Chelsea cover is bad for me, hence why I'll wc in 32, get at least 2 in ready for whatever DGW they have and have a 3rd if they have it in 33, or transfer a 3rd in if they have it in 36.

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  30. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    DGW33 is worth a 16 point hit

    Discuss.

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    1. Evs
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      Nothing is.... (In the main)

      4 ok, 8 maybe acceptable (doubt it) anything else... Mental.

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    2. Tommytour
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      Dependent on players in and out

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    3. Dr Dream
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      depends who it's for doesn't it...If it's for Rooney/RVP/Santi/Walcott then yes...maybe. Not for a rotated defender and midfielder though.

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