Pre-Season

Friendlies Round-Up – Monday

United end their tour of Asia with a comprehensive win as Jesse Lingard gets amongst the goals once again. Markus Rosenberg and Nicolas Anelka maintain their recent scoring form as West Brom pick up another victory, while Hull edge past Peterborough thanks to a long-range effort from Maynor Figueroa. Elsewhere, Steven Fletcher may miss the start of the season for Sunderland and Roberto Martinez talks up the prospects of Nikica Jelavic for the campaign ahead after the Croatian bagged a brace in a weekend win at Blackburn:

Kitchee 2 Man United 5
David Moyes rolled out a 4-3-3 formation for United’s final match in Asia yesterday afternoon. With Jonny Evans missing out due to an ankle injury, the likes of Chris Smalling, Michael Keane and Fabio were handed a starting berth in an experimental line-up at the back, while further up the field, Wilfried Zaha and Ashley Young took the flank roles on either side of Danny Welbeck. The latter opened the scoring with his third pre-season strike before Smalling and Fabio added a goal apiece before the break. Moyes made six changes over the course of the second period and saw two of his subs combine for the fourth after Alexander Buttner teed up Adnan Januzaj before Jesse Lingard grabbed the visitors’ final goal, taking his tally for the summer to four – more than any other United player.

Speaking to United TV after the match, Smalling revealed he was determined to nail down a regular role under the new manager after starting just 10 times in Sir Alex Ferguson’s final year in charge:

“Last season was a very frustrating one so it is nice to be involved with pre-season because I didn’t get that last time and I am feeling good. The more games, the better. It was nice to pop up with a goal too. But to be fair, I probably should have got a hat-trick. Hopefully, I will get more chances like that. I was waiting for it (the goal), I have been due one because I didn’t get too many last season. Hopefully, I will be able to get a few more this season and chip in a little more.”

Elsewhere, Moyes was given an injury boost after Nemanja Vidic, Nani and Antonio Valencia returned to action for a United XI against Crewe last night. The trio had failed to take part in the pre-season tour but are now stepping up their respective recoveries – Valencia played the full 90 minutes, while Vidic and Nani were afforded just over an hour apiece, with the latter notching both goals in a 2-0 win.

Peterborough 0 Hull 1
Steve Bruce’s side registered their first win in four attempts yesterday evening. The Tigers boss continued with a 3-5-2 and shifted Maynor Figueroa to the left of midfield, whilst drafting in his son, Alex, to join James Chester and Curtis Davies in the back-three – the former Wigan man vindicated his manager’s decision to move him to a more advanced berth by notching the only goal of the game with a spectacular 25-yeard strike. Danny Graham was partnered by Sone Aluko up top but failed to notch before making way in one of seven second-half changes by the visitors. From an offensive point of view, the Tigers are still struggling and have scored just twice in the last four games (with one coming from the spot), though Bruce’s side have registered three clean sheets across that quartet of fixtures.

West Brom 3 Atromitos 1
Steve Clarke made eight changes from the side that saw off Derby at the weekend. Yet again, the Baggies boss altered his starting formation and moved from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3, with Saido Berahino, Markus Rosenberg and Shane Long leading the line as Nicolas Anelka dropped to the bench. With his side a goal down at the break, the Baggies boss made just two alterations, sending on James Morrison and Anelka, and the latter needed just 10 minutes to bring the hosts level with his third goal in as many matches. Rosenberg continued his strong summer form by teeing up Berahino to fire the Baggies in front before scoring his side’s third, taking his tally to four over five pre-season friendlies, the highest scoring West Brom player of the summer so far.

While Clarke has been linked with moves for Scott Sinclair, Salomon Kalou and Matej Vydra as he looks to bolster his frontline, Rosenberg is certainly staking a claim for consideration and prior to the match, the Swede spoke of his determination to atone for a debut season which saw him fail to find the net once in the Premier League:

“I didn’t score too many times last season so I have to score a lot in this campaign. I had a tough time last year so it’s good to have a start like this and to start to score goals. I always knew I could score because I scored in every other country, but it’s still nice to bag a goal and to have a pre-season. I missed the pre-season last year and I think it will be good for me in the campaign to come. It is always the same, it doesn’t matter how much experience you get. In the back of your head you know you can score but you have to prove it to the fans and to the people here.”

In Other News
Reports yesterday suggest Steven Fletcher is losing the race to be ready in time for the start of the season. The Sunderland striker is still struggling from the ankle injury that forced him out towards the end of the previous campaign and may be sidelined until September – meaning he would miss a potentially prosperous opening run of three games against Fulham, Southampton and Palace. Fletcher’s absence would mean Paolo Di Canio is likely to retain a 4-4-1-1 formation for the kick-off, with Stephane Sessegnon tucked in behind Jozy Altidore, though the former Wolves man may struggle to pick up many investors upon his return, with the Black Cats’ schedule stiffening significantly from Gameweek 4 onwards.

Roberto Martinez has been singing the praises of Nikica Jelavic after the Croatian bagged a brace in Everton’s weekend win at Blackburn. Jelavic was named as a sub at Ewood Park as Martinez handed Arouna Kone the lone forward role in a 4-3-3 but he staked a claim for first-team inclusion after replacing the Ivorian at the break. Having notched just seven times in the season gone by, Jelavic appears to have slipped down the pecking order following Kone’s arrival but he may still have a significant role to play this term, judging by his manager’s comments:

“In modern football it’s a bit unfair to rely on a player to score you 20-25 goals if you don’t do the things well as a team, you’ll never get the striker in good positions. That’s what we’re starting to develop now; a team that can be strong enough off the ball and that can create enough chances for our strikers to take, but it’s not the moment to assess the players as yet. It’s the time to assess them in each individual exercise and see what sort of relationship we can put on the pitch. What we saw [on Saturday] was a Nikica Jelavic that has come back with a real intention of having a very strong season.”

Having reunited with Martinez following their time together at Wigan, Kone had initially appeared nailed-on for a starting berth for the Toffees. With 13% ownership in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), the Ivorian is the seventh most popular striker in the game at the moment but Jelavic’s form is certainly affording his new manager further options for the central forward role, suggesting wide men Kevin Mirallas and Steven Pienaar may be a little more secure as FPL out of position prospects in Martinez’s front three.

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  1. Da Diggy Diggy Doc
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ok I'm bored of waiting now. Anyone know how to fast forward a few weeks?

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    1. Kylos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Vodka

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    2. nedfoo
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Press the fast forward button on your TV remote

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  2. drunken_mess
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    A. Michu & Aspas

    B. Coutinho & Bony

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    1. Kylos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A for first few weeks

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    2. Kloppelganger
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    3. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A for me but the Swans have a tough opening schedule

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    4. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      was going to get Sturridge but. . . is he still injured?

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    5. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B.

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    6. Pete Campbell
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B!

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  3. AK ⭐
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Read on Telegraph that Spurs might want to talk about Bale moving to Madrid? How reliable are Telegraph? Is he leaving then?

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    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      There comes a point where any team will sell any player if enough money is offered. Levy looks to be waiting for that sum of money to be offered. If it is then he'll go in my opinion.

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  4. Rafabio
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    FPL team draft take 1 gazillion:

    Gazzinaga/Mingolet

    Ivan--Whittaker--Zab--Baker--Clyne

    Mirallas--Haz(C)--Wally--Couthino--Cabaye

    Giroud--Lukaku--Aspas

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    1. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No Bale or RVP where has your £100 Million gone lol

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      1. Rafabio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I'm assuming that Bale won't be at Spurs or will be unsettled if he does start the season at TOT.

        RVP is too expensive, he'd have average 15+ per game to justify 14 million. United's fixtures are ridiculous. If we don't bolster our midfield we'll be staring at a gap early given Chelsea and City's opening schedule.

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    2. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      dont like the double ARS and LIV, would sperad it out a bit

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Three LIV

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    3. AK ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Benching dilemma. I wouldn't be comfortable benching anyone in your front 8 here.

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    4. TheOrangeMan
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Defence too expensive. Zab -> Nastasic and maybe Cabaye -> Nolan Otherwise good team.

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      1. theotherguy
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Isn't Nastasic injured?

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        1. TheOrangeMan
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Oh just see that now. He's 50%.. maybe stick with Cabaye so or downgrade to Coleman if want to free up cash

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      2. Rafabio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Nasty listed with an ankle injury on FPL site.

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    5. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers

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  5. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Looks like people have started to bail on Bale. Down over 10% in ownership!
    The question is, shall I do the same?

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    1. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Might as well wait and see if he leaves or not surely

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I was considering swapping him for Walcott and upgrading Ruiz before I noticed the 10% difference

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      2. theotherguy
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Possibly, but if Spurs are close to closing a deal for £80m then he won't be motivated and they won't want him to get injured.

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    2. Kylos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It's a moot point. It's just nice to do something different and work out a non Bale team for now. If he is staying (which I think is unlikely) he'll be brought back in.

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Relax.

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    4. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No rush but it's fun to tinker

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    5. Pete Campbell
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      The bookies say he's leaving. I trust the bookies.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Wasn't Thiago 1/5 to join Utd at one point?!

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          And Higuin similar odds to join Arsenal.

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          1. Pete Campbell
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Interesting!

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      2. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Ladbrokes:

        13/8 - to be sold for a world record fee of over £80M.
        8/13 - Real Madrid

        Surely if the bookies think he's going Madrid then it'll be £80M+ anyway?

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        1. Funkyav
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          perhaps not if the deal includes player swaps

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            But wasn't the deal £80M plus players?

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    6. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I wonder how many of these will forget to put him back in their teams?

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      1. Kylos
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Only some mild casuals that shouldn't be beating anyone on this site

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  6. TheOrangeMan
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Two Questions.

    Silva or Navas?

    &

    Sturridge or Aspas

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    1. nedfoo
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva

      Sturridge

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    2. Louis
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva and Aspas

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    3. Pete Campbell
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva & Sturridge

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  7. theotherguy
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Redraft less Bale - thoughts?

    Mignolet, Mannone

    Merte, Enrique, Luiz, Collins, Clyne

    Morrison, Walcott, Snoddy, Hazard, Countihno

    Giroud, Lukaku, Rodriguez.

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  8. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Kompany + Anelka or Zaba + Jay Rodriguez ?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    2. Louis
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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  9. FatmanAndRobin
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    RMT - taking into account the impending Bale transfer 🙂
    If bale doesnt go thinking of dropping RVP and Nolan and bringing in Bale and Giroud leaving 0.5 in the bank.. thoughts??

    Mig/Davis

    Collins/Ivan/Koscielny/Shaw/Garrido

    Mirallas/Nolan/Hazard/Coutinho/Thomas

    RVP/Anelka/Lukaku

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  10. drunken_mess
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Here we go again. RMT please

    Manone/Boruc

    G.Johnson A.Cole Jags Turner Shaw

    Hazard Mirallas Walcott Michu Guly

    Lukaku Benteke Aspas

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      nice, 8/10 😉

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        😯 Aspas could be sturridge if he is fit

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      very similar to my team aside from defence. I like it!

      Michu over Silva with those fixtures?

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Man U dont look great at the back (from preseason) my thinking is that Swansea will end top 6 this season

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    3. roscola
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Looks very lovely. And you've reminded me about Guly.

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  11. TheOrangeMan
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Very nice. First Koscielny i've seen in a while! Good to jump off the Mert bandwagon. Midfiels looks nice. Maybe swap Ivanovic for ACole because Ivan may be rested for one of the DGW games.

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    1. Pete Campbell
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ive jumped from Mert to Koscielny!

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  12. Louis
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Just realised that the fact that Bale is on his way out means I won't be able to see him play at Stade Louis II for Monaco-Tottenham friendly. Falcao vs Bale would have been cool to watch.

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  13. dk123
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    nolan and snodgrass or coutinho and jarvis..?? not sure which combo any ideas??

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      would need to see the rest of your team, 2nd option for me

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      1. dk123
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        cech harper

        mert collins mturner

        jarvis hazard bale coutinho

        anelka lukaku giroud

        clyne thomas staylor

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  14. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How's my team looking?

    GK: Mignolet
    DF: Luiz, Mertesacker, Zabaleta
    MF: Walcott, Coutinho, Hazard, Snodgrass
    FW: Giroud, Lukaku, Sturridge

    Subs: Davis, Cabral, Baker, Whittaker

    Any changes necessary?

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe Luiz for Cole. Coles more likely to play both games

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    2. dk123
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      try to at least get bale or ryp in the team.. bit to much invested in defence you could downgrade it to get extra cash

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      1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Bale is on his way out and RVP is a rip off. 14.0 for one player? I've never seen it since I've started playing this game. Good shout on the defence, though. I upgraded from a 4.5 DF to include Zabaleta. Will rethink.

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    3. JoshT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Alot like mine...Apart from Snod > Silva and Sturridge> Hooper

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      1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Hooper is a great shout. I was actually waiting for him to appear. He'll score a dozen goals this year at least.

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        1. JoshT
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Norwich will generally do well this year imo, I'm not sure about how many he will score but I think he is worth a punt at 6.5

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  15. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Lingard @0.8% ownership is tempting.

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      will get plenty of sub appearances, might start gw4.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Winter wildcard is probably time enough

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    3. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Na DDG will play most weeks 😉

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      LOL

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  16. Ginzu
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Too much balance?

    Boruc, Mannone
    Mertesacker, Toure, Nastasic, Chester, Parr
    Walcott, Snodgrass, Hazard, Mirallas, Coutinho
    Lukaku, Aguero, Rodriguez

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      no, looks good, few doubt in there

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    2. Pete Campbell
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Just keep an eye out on the Nastasic injury!

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      1. Ginzu
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Will do, plan would be either Collins or Turner and free up a million.

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  17. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Why has Chadli been added to the game for Spurs but not Brayford for Cardiff?????!?!?!?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Chadli was signed earlier, FPL normally take a few days to add players.

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        They tend to release them in batches of 3/6.

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Question: If Bale leaves for Real.........Ignoring price, who would you rather have in your team at the start of the game?

      A) Bony
      B) Defoe
      C) Mirallas

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      1. Funkyav
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        D - the spurs striker that they bring in (looking like Soldado)

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      2. Pete Campbell
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        C

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  18. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ok, I think I might be getting nearer, could you RMT please?

    Mignolet-(Davis)

    Zableta-Mertesacker-Cole-(Baker-Shaw)

    Coutinho-Hazard(C)-Fellaini-Cazorla-(Britton)

    Lukaku-Aspas-Dzeko

    any comments appreciated

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      hmmmm. . . fellaini will play DM. Cazorla might be on the wing with Wilshere in the hole. Dzeko will be a great pick if he starts.

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    2. mathmo
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good team overall, I havent seen Fellaini in many. He's probably the tricky one; he's playing against a more attacking Norwich, but under a new (but attacking) manager. To muddy the waters further, he has stated he enjoys playing in a more defensive role.

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  19. Keepz_27
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    a quick little RMT.

    Migs (Manny)
    Mert, Cole, Coleman (Clyne/Collins)
    Hazard (C), Coutinho, Snoddy, Nolan (Thomas)
    JRod, Giroud, Lukaku

    $$$ - 5.0M

    reasons:
    Nolan has a pretty good run of games, should score well. Upgrade after GW6.
    Lukaku GW2 out for Sturridge. (no Preseason but will play and score)
    JRod GW5 to Berbatov.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No Bale or RVP?
      Are you seriously relying on Giroud and Lukaku as your main striker force?
      And Snodgrass as Mid No3?

      The reason for all this all that money you have doing nothing

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      1. Keepz_27
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        im preparing for Bale to go.
        i dont see the point in sacraficing points in other positions to fit RVP in??
        Lukaku is only in for DGW, Giroud has had a great preseason.
        Jrod out for berbz, he is still the go to guy @ Fulham.
        Snoddy has got a decent run of games where he will score points and when Nolan gets Upgraded Snoddy will be my Mid4.
        Cole most likely to play both DGW games.
        Mert definite starter.

        best value for money team i can think of.

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  20. TheOrangeMan
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    DEFENCE! Too many ARS players IMO.. Mert -> Coleman & Zab -> Collins?

    I like the Strikeforce - same as mine!

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  21. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Calling all Swansea experts! and knowledge of the crowd...

    What's the likely set up for you this season? I appreciate the fixture folk haven't been so kind to you but I think you have a potential bargain or two in your ranks.

    Bony looks good but i'll wait on him with other attackers in the price bracket looking equally attractive
    We all know about Michu and its down to affordability whether he makes the final cut or not.

    But... Shelvey (i bloody hate Jonjo but it sounds like he's doing the business), JDG, Dyer, Hernandez and Routledge could be great value players given the passing style of the team being well suited to the new BPS.

    I'd be very interested to know if Laudrup has a recognisable first 11 yet?

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    1. Funkyav
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Vorm
      Angel Williams Chico Davies
      Britton De Guzman
      Hernandez Michu ???
      Bony

      I am not a swans fan but I see them playing as above in a 4231 or a 433 in all likelihood.

      I would say that most of the above are fairly certain. there is 1 place that will be up for grabs and will possibly be rotated with Routledge, Dyer, Shelvey

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      1. Da Diggy Diggy Doc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Taylor vs Davies for lb is interesting also.

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      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        in which case, Hernandez could be well worth the 6m. If i remember rightly he performed solidly in the second half of last season. Could be wrong but i think that was when i noticed him.

        Thanks for the feedback!

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    2. Da Diggy Diggy Doc
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yep I'd be interested in this also- any chance of game time for the new £4.5m mids?

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    3. Kylos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Going to have to wait and see the Europa rotation factor.

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  22. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is it worth bearing in mind that Bale did start of the season relatively slow last year. I cant remember what Spurs' fixtures were like but I remember him not really kicking in until the second half of the season. By GW18 last year here the selection of players with more points than Bale -

    Cazorla
    Hazard
    Michu
    Fellaini
    Mata
    Gerrard

    We all know what happened in the second half the season and his fixtures are good I just remember the chat of 'if he gets another 2 points im ditching'

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Bale's slow start just followed on from a poor end to the previous season. He ended this one on fire. If he's still at Spurs when the season starts he's in my team.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Im not disagreeing with that one bit. Im just bored on my lunch and thought id throw that out there

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah, its crossed my mind as well but not worried about it repeating.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I ditched him GW4 🙁

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  23. Captain456
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    First little tinker with the team but all comments welcomed please.

    Boruc (Davis)
    Ivan, Mert, Toure (Chester Whittaker)
    Hazard, Bale, Walcott, Mirallas (Thomas)
    Aspas, Lukaku, Giroud

    If Bale moves ill strengthen keeper options and get in Coutinhio.

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    1. PB-THE-VET
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team, id lose one of exp defenders and try get rvp into that team

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  24. PB-THE-VET
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Have a spot to fill, keep changing my mind 9mil to spend

    Hazard Walcott XXXXX Snodgrass Thomas

    Looking at Silva, Couthino, Michu etc

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      michuuuuu

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva or Coutinho.

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho or Silva. But really, find 3m extra.

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    4. mathmo
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho, then Michu, then Silva. Michu has a tougher fixture, but arguably one he is capable of scoring in. Silva, while at home, is in a a team undergoing significant changes to both personnel and system.

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    5. PB-THE-VET
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks

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    6. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva or Coutinho!

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  25. drunken_mess
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    A. Zaba

    B. Jag

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    1. PB-THE-VET
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C : mert

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        fancy Benteke to score 🙂
        have no city cover and Zaba loves to play as a ST

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        1. PB-THE-VET
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I loved zab in my team last year

          Just rotation worries me and rest of my def is dirt cheap
          2 rotatin pairs worth 17million 😀

          Mert gonna be my anchor

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    2. Something Clever
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A all day

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  26. Sess!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Metesacker vs Koscienly

    Who is best set up for bonus points, given the new system?

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      mert

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Not true. Kosc received more per 90 mins played.

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        1. drunken_mess
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          thought someone on here did the maths for last season and Mert would have scored more points. could be wrong

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        2. Sess!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          This is what I was wondering. Obviously mert would have been high up the def rankings last year, but he played hell of a lot more games than koscienly. Good to get a view point based on minutes played.

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        3. r0binh0
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I think it's largely immaterial anyway, since defenders will only really be in with a chance of BAPs in low scoring games and Arsenal aren't usually involved in too many of those.

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  27. Doctor X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Can anyone talk to me about Aspas' game mentality and his FPL prospects should Sturridge not make the first few games?

    I've pencilled Sturridge in at the moment, but if he doesnt make it, my options are (Walcott + Aspas) or (Coutinho + Giroud).

    Thanks for the insight in advance lads.

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  28. r0binh0
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    GK picking rationale:

    I think it's fair to say that, ignoring the obvious defenders who are attacking beasts, on the whole keepers are priced 0.5 higher than defenders, on account of all the save points they pick up. This particularly holds true for the lesser teams where keepers will make more saves - in stronger teams the keepers are more likely to be on a par with defenders.

    Therefore, in the budget ranks, pick keepers from teams where the keeper is priced on a par with the defenders. Which means, Boruc, Foster, Vorm, Mannone.

    Conversely, Migs (because of Toure), Marshall, Speroni, Ruddy, Jaask, Guzan, Stekelnberg etc should all be ignored.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      What if you're going with Ruddy and Turner? Or if you think that Ruddy is much more secure than Turner?

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        If doubling then obviously it's not relevant but i'm trying to avoid doing that in my initial squad.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure if I agree but my two are in the first list so I hope you're right 🙂

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    3. PB-THE-VET
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Migs solo ftw

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        see RMT numbers. It underperforms many cheaper options.

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    4. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Clear thinking. I like it.

      On a detail, I think it's unlikely that Toure will end the transfer window as first choice. If he is, I'll probably double with Migs because they'll both be underpriced for the clean sheets Liverpool are likely to get.

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Y, i think that is definitely a fair point and of all the combos, these are the two i'd be most likely to double up on. Rodgers really doesn't fancy Skrtel so I do think Toure will keep his place fwiw.

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        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I'd love it if he did keep his place. Fingers crossed Rodgers doesn't get Papadopoulos 🙂

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          1. r0binh0
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            He's already been quoted as saying hes been thrilled with Toure and he's happy with his CB cover currently (partic since Wisdom looks like and excellent young prospect)

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    5. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      The logic is sound but ill still be going with Migs

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    6. Da Diggy Diggy Doc
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Agree. Except at the high end (city, Chelsea,...) where there are likely to be few save points and there are high end defenders more likely to get attacking points

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    7. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Generally its about picking the cheapest nailed on defender for the teams so I'd agree in most cases. The onlt thing I'd say is that if you want rotating keepers it could be more useful to have say Ruddy to go with Boruc instead of a defender who can be rotated with 4 other players.

      Another instance where this doesn't apply is where you want to double up and the keeper is the second cheapest, like with Mig and Toure.

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        y, agd. as i said above, migs/toure i think is the most persuasive double.

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    8. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm going for Migs along with what seems like the rest of fpl..... he'll be the in the top 3 highest points scoreers for GK this season. At 5.5m the extra 1.0 is good value

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      1. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        If you look at RMT it actually isn't. Migs+4m is outscored by say Boruc+Foter, and only outscores Boruc+Speroni by 1 pt despite the additional 0.5m.

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    9. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Fair logic.

      Not sure I'd class Mignolet as a budget keeper but the price differential their is all about gametime. I remain to be convinced that Toure will be first choice

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  29. Flint Edgewood
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Coutinho or Walcott?
    If you project his tally of goals and assists relative to the minutes he played last season Coutinho seems to be almost on par with Walcott. In addition, he has been consistently performing during Liverpool's pre-season and will save you 0.5. However, as you've no doubt heard, pre-season form should be taken with a pinch of salt and though the stats for Coutinho look good on paper..the Arsenal speedster is the more proven point magnet.

    Looking at their respective first fixtures:

    Liverpool vs Stoke
    Arsenal vs Aston Villa

    Stoke shipped 45 goals (23 away) last season in comparison to Aston Villa's 69 (41 away). However, towards the latter end of last season Stoke looked fragile in defence and I expect that trend to continue into at least the start of this season with Mark Hughes hoping to showcase a more attacking brand of football.

    Both sides are equally frail in defence..Who would you pick - Coutinho or Walcott?

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Giroud + Cout

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      1. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        You in the Boruc Davis boat?

        That's what I'm currently rowing

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Boruc Given.

          Got 3 playing SOT players.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            You'll both love my team;

            Boruc Cech(to be Adrain)

            Clyne Shaw Murner Reid Collins

            Walcott Hazard Bale Quinn Bolasie

            Lukaku Sturridge Giroud

            All in on Saints, Hammers, Chelsea and Arsenal. 😎

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              😯 😀

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            2. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              No Kolarov 🙁

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Under consideration 😀

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            3. Lateriser 12
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Oooh Flair all over.

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    2. drunken_mess
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Wally

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    3. JoshT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      both

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    4. Kylos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      If I had to chose Walcott, but most people have attacking players from both Ars and Lpool.

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    5. mathmo
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Very difficult, but I would say Coutinho.

      Arsenal may have a slightly subdued start due to their Champions League qualification commitments and the fact that Cazorla may be selected to play in the Ecuador friendly. Liverpool have no such concerns so I'd imagine a rested, full strength team will play against Stoke, managed by the much maligned maverick that is Mark Hughes. I would expect a few goals at the away end in that game.

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    6. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Walcott has proven himself as an FPL performer for a longer period of time. There are recent examples of players coming in January then having a poor second season like Jelavic and Cisse.

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    7. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      walcott far more proven, coutinho has proven he can rack up points in 3 months of easy fixtures (a flaw with essentially doubling his mins to level up with walcott).

      coutinho has obvious potential but walcott is a banker, a known. not a guy who got goals or assists against qpr, end of season fulham, newcastle, aston villa, southampton, and a reserve heavy swansea side.

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      1. Flint Edgewood
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Very valid point. Plus, I guess if you've got Sturridge then Liverpool action is pretty much covered anyway.

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    8. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      There was a patch where Walcott was the default captain last year. That says it all for me.

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    9. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      If I had to choose one of them then Walcott but to overcome this problem I'm getting both 🙂

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