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The Burning Question – Would Bale’s Departure Make Van Persie Essential?

Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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  1. darrenm
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Think I am now set, spending to much time tinkering!

    Migs / Harper
    Coleman / Mertesacker / Brayford / Ward / Chester
    Mirallas / Silva / Coutinho / Lampard / R Morrison
    RVP / Giroud / Lambert

    0.0 INB

    Might change Mertesacker to Ivanovic for DGW and then switch back after WK1 & downgrade Giroud to Bony WK2

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    1. kimjobil
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      morrison might not play, but i am not sure about that...i like this team a lot.Silva looks like a good choice that could work really well for you.

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  2. Hansel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Koscielny or Mertesacker?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Both are good picks, there's little in it to be honest.

      I'm going Kosc

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      1. Hansel
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        both nailed on when vermaelen is back or will anyone make way, and if that's the case: who?

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Not sure Verm will get his place back. Who would make way is debatable

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    2. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Depends on who you think's got more goal threat, really a 50/50 decision imo.

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    3. darrenm
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mert

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    4. Sob or lie?
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I am going Mert because he is 0.5 cheaper and can't separate them.

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      1. Doctor X
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        Theyre both the same price :/

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        1. Sob or lie?
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Hmm... I must be on drugs, I thought Kos was 6.0. Now you have given me a dilemma P)

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  3. Christina.
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    10 years, 10 months ago

    @Flynny - Roberge.

    Speak to me.

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    1. Doctor X
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Posted on the previous thread.

      I noticed that he's played the most minutes of all the Sunderland CBs barring Brown (injured) and O'Shea (first choice). But he's only ever scored 2 goals his entire senior career.

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  4. OptimusBlack
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    @Doorsa

    r u sure that Adrian Naild on and he can start Season ?

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    1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Keep 1.0m in the bank in case he isn't...

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No he isn't, but he's punting 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        What he says. I think that it is a fair punt.

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    3. OptimusBlack
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i have him now With Bourc let him in my team or Get Mannone ?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Boruc. Keep 1.0 free.

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  5. Stuucoo
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Bear in mind I plan on wildcarding in week three to jump on bandwagons.. I don't care about coverage and am instead looking for great opening fixtures and price rises!

    A)
    Mignolets (Rudd)
    Koscielny Zabaleta Cole (Parr Collins)
    Hazard Mirallas Walcott Silva (Ibe)
    Lukaku Giroud Dzeko

    B)
    Mignolets (Rudd)
    Koscielny Zabaleta Cole (Parr Collins)
    Hazard Mirallas Walcott Snodgrass (Ibe)
    Lukaku Giroud Soldado

    C)
    Foster (Rudd)
    Koscielny Lescott Terry (Parr Brayford)
    Hazard Mirallas Walcott Silva(Ibe)
    Lukaku Giroud Soldado

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  6. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    For GW 3 which option is best?

    Kone, Bony and Snodgrass
    OR
    Kone Giroud and Downing/Taraabt
    OR
    Kone Sturridge and Puncheon

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      First one, but I can't say any of those combos look massively appealing...will Kone get the nod ahead of Jelly?

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  7. King Nemanja
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    With Lampard having had practically no pre-season, anyone think he could feature in both games to help get his fitness levels up?

    Could see him getting 120 mins, which is making me really want to include him.

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Im considering captaining him.

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    2. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sounds about right, and he loves playing Villa.

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  8. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What the hell was Scotland's first goal all about, what was Hart trying to do, if ever the word flap was appropriate it was then!

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Most overrated keeper in the world.

      The lad is full of himself & the public just follow.

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      1. Andrew
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I used to rate him but my opinion is slowly changing

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    2. stilicho
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It was reminscent of an octopus trying to propel itself backwards.

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  9. CaTriEm
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Seeing as Darren Bent is a very similiar player to Robbie Keane, I can see a partnership with BerbaSloth working very well.

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  10. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Repost:

    Please RMT

    Boruc, Davis (planning on one keeper only)

    Baker, Toure, Baines, Brayford, Chester
    Hazard(C), Lampard, Walcott, R Morrison, Thomas
    Benteke, RVP, Lukaku

    IMO Baker will get a chance to be first choice.

    GW2. Lampard>Mirallas
    GW3. R Morrison or Thomas > Kim(depening if R Morrison fires or not)

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  11. Oz lotto
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    can someone please give me some info on this Bent to Fulham situation... ruining my berba plans

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  12. HellasLEAF
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Can I ask, why is Soldado in every team. Sure there is competition at the forward position? Does he have any set piece? pk?

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    1. darrenm
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Only guy at present worth putting in from Spurs...

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    2. Orion
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      yeah, penalties as I know...

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    3. Goaldigger
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I don't think there's competition at all there tbh. He's just miles more class than the other two fellas.

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      1. The EJJ
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Great record in La Liga, on pens and nailed on, he's in my team for sure.

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    4. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I think it comes down to nailed-on-ness.

      Van P, Benteke and to a certain extent Lambert, being the only nailed on starting strikers for GW1 with a proven pedigree for goals in the PL.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Once Sturridge proves his fitness (which wont be long if not by GW1 press conference), Rooney gets a move/fit, Aguero returns to fitness, City and Chelsea nail on a forward and Bony starts banging them in, we'll have a good bit of competition and Soldado will need to have started strongly to avoid the inevitable price fall as people jump ship.

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    5. CaTriEm
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      He's one of the best Strikers in the world and he's only 9.5!

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  13. Orion
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Just can't decide between Dzeko and Benteke... Can someone give me a hint... ? thanx... 🙂

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Dzeko

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    2. Frank Spankhard
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      benteke

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    3. The EJJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Dzeko, better fixtures and looks very likely to start the first few, playing for a better team, too.

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    4. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      The guy with the double game week

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    5. Goaldigger
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A tip: Benteke

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    6. OptimusBlack
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Simple dude if u have a great stirker with DGW U should choooose him .

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    7. Orion
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Okay than, my bet will be Benteke just because of the double... Thanks and good luck to you all! 😀

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  14. Grounderz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Terry... Oscar... Terry... Oscar... Terry... Oscar... anybody?

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    1. big oak
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      cahill! cole!

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    2. Frank Spankhard
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      cashley for me. others are rotrisk

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    3. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Terry

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    4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Terry because mou loves him.

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    5. OptimusBlack
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Terry

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  15. Scab
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    best 4.5 goalie combo! go!

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    1. big oak
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      palace hull and they rotate ok

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Boruc & Adrián ... 😉

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      1. OptimusBlack
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        +1
        Dude i Choose Adrian because of u 😀 i hope he start i watched a great video to him When he was in real betis

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  16. Sideshow
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Slight Difference to the norm here!!!
    Myself and my 2 housemates have a FPL private league of three the only additional rule is no one can have the same player, this was all sorted during a length draft picking session so a number of players are unavailable to each of us with that in mind where if any can I improve my team?

    Team

    Scszeny, Adrian
    Toure, Coleman, Clyne, Rat, Mertesacker
    Paulinho, Kagawa, Coutnho, Hazard, Kim
    Van Wolfwinkel, Benteke, Rooney

    Taking a gamble holding Kagawa and Rooney just now was hoping Rooney would depart and Kagawa would benefit.

    Housemates teams:

    Steklenberg, Boruc
    Zabaleta, Brayford, Olson, Glen Johnson, Gabbidon
    Lucas, Shelvey, Lucas, Wilshire, Lallena
    Sturridge, RVP, Salado

    Mignolet, Given
    Jones, Koscienly, Collins, Baines, Bakert
    Rmierez, Mirallas, Walcott, Thomas, Bale
    Bony, Giroud, Kone

    Last team is from the winner of the previous 2 years although not overly impressed.

    Sorry its long reading thoughts on my side and indeed all three appreciated

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  17. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    David Luiz chances of playing 180? Or playing at all? :S

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  18. Eboue
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Can someone please slow down the pages as I'm still reading 29. Thanks 😉

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hurry up! 😛

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    2. Hallinan
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone get the feeling, based on the projections and value for money that 5 at the back is the way to go...it seems like it shouldn't work as forwards and midfielders are the highest scorers...anyone else thinking 5 at the back this year?

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  19. Mak_Gold
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Lost on last page so repost. Hi, guys! Can I get a quick RMT? Team is:

      Mannone | (Boruc)
      Ivanovic | MTurner | Collins | (Brayford | Chester)
      Hazard | Walcott | Coutinho | Mirallas | (Thomas)
      RVP | Lukaku | Anelka.

      Just one question:

      A) Ivan + Turner (i.e. current combo), OR
      B) Terry + Toure.

      Thanks guys.

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    • HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ok - I'm having doubts about having Mignolet and 4.0m keeper... I have Toure... I quite like Ruddy & Boruc combo (as I don't have coverage from either defense). Sound like a good idea? And no... I don't want Foster...

      Thanks in advance!

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      1. The EJJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Why no Foster?

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        1. r0binh0
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I agree. Foster/Boruc seems the best combo to me. Migs makes little sense given a) lack of save points and b) Toure is 0.5m cheaper.

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        2. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          West Brom had a terrible defensive record last season (stats back this up) and I haven't seen them sign anyone to improve in this area so assuming it will be déjà vu this year. Norwich were a rock at home and Ruddy is a quality keeper...

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    • kimoo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If u have Walcott and Coutinho u don't need to get Giroud or Sturridge it's better to Get

      Soladado , Benteke or Lukaku i feel that Lukaku & Benteke best Strikers for DGW .

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      1. The EJJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        But then you have to get them out.

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      2. r0binh0
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        This game is played over 38 GWs not just 1. I'd rather have Sturridge long term than Coutinho or any of those strikers so I'd rather save myself a transfer.

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    • Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Shirley Cuellar will now play...

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Team name sorted Christina? 🙂

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      2. smashy 'sophomore slum…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        We can hope.

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      3. CaTriEm
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Roberge + Diakité mate.

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    • El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Pages flying past 🙁

      Please RMT

      Boruc, Davis (planning on one keeper only)

      Baker, Toure, Baines, Brayford, Chester
      Hazard(C), Lampard, Walcott, R Morrison, Thomas
      Benteke, RVP, Lukaku

      IMO Baker will get a chance to be first choice.

      GW2. Lampard>Mirallas
      GW3. R Morrison or Thomas > Kim(depening if R Morrison fires or not)

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'd have Koscielny/Mert or Terry before Baines. Don't like the three very cheap defenders, you need to upgrade one. Rest looks OK - not sure how much Benteke will contribute during the dgw.

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    • phantom-man
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      who to have?
      a)coutinho
      b)walcott

      No Arsenal or Liverpool players in team
      The next five answers is what I will do

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Wal is must.

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      2. A.T
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        B

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      3. Andrew
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Both lol

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      4. Sir_Dunc
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        B

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      5. smashy 'sophomore slum…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Wally it is!!

        🙂

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    • El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Best 4.5 mid rotation?

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Frankly there isn't one, in my opinion.

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Ravel and Pozuelo......as long as you don't mind sub appearances. 😉

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    • kimjobil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      someone rate this team...
      mignolet (davis)
      ivanovic, koscielny, michael turner, shaw, bradford
      hazard, coutinho, mirallas, ben arfa, kim
      rvp, lukaku, anelka

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    • Göz
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Is Lescott a certain starter?

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      1. The EJJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Haha quite the opposite.

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        1. Göz
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          As I thought, cheers

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        2. King Nemanja
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Not think he is nailed on until Nastasic comes back?

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      2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Probably for the first few games but Nastasic may take his place when fit. Still possible Richards or even Zab might play alongside Kompany but should be safe for now.

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      3. kimjobil
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        with nasty injured for five weeks, it think he will start til then...

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    • Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Perhaps we should comment on another post before creating a new one? Might promote a bit more conversation. Good chance someone has asked the same or similar question already too.

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      1. Zep
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying...

        Also, I bloody love that album... Suggestions and Spiders are two of my favourites... 😀

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        1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Good man, favourite band probably. Still yet to see them live though but one day...

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    • Sir_Dunc
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Foster Boruc
      Cole Kosc Garrido Collins Brayford
      Hazard Walcott Coutinho Mirallas Kim
      Lukaku Lambert Benteke

      With .5m left to do Cole > Coleman, Lambert > Bony, Benteke > Soldado, once the dust settles.
      Of course, pointless to plan ahead though...

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      1. The EJJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Looks good to me, same midfield as me (and countless others) 🙂

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        1. Sir_Dunc
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          "There's safety in numbers", is what said before the screaming started.

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    • Doctor X
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Doos; you posted that Probable Starters spreadsheet in reply to that Roberge post.

      He definitely played more mins than Diakite and Cuellar like I said! Only Oshea and Brown played more than him.

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