The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

The Knee Jerk returns in a new, digestible format. An instant response to the matches or matches of the day, offering a quick appraisal of the protagonists and dilemmas posed.

Day one, and already Fantasy managers find themselves re-addressing their “big decision”. Conveniently, a precocious talent on Merseyside may just offer a ready-made solution.

The Game Changer

It was clear that the decision on Robin Van Persie would again split Fantasy Football managers down the middle. Owned by 43% of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers, there were vast waves of support for the argument that his huge 14.0 price tag was too much of an obstacle, that value could be found elsewhere to compensate for his undoubted consistency.

That might still be the case, as Christian Benteke and Danny Welbeck demonstrated, but Van Persie’s superb brace at the Liberty this evening will have prompted early doubts.

Those without Van Persie must now decide whether to remain firm and back their initial policy or consider extensive emergency surgery to acquire him. Should Van Persie return again at home to Chelsea, then big investment could arrive over the international break ahead of the delicious Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace in Gameweek 4.

If 14.0 looked too much this morning, we can only imagine where Van Persie will be in a few weeks if he shows that acclaimed consistency.

Van Persie really is the biggest test of the “jerky knee”.

The Underused

There was every chance that Ross Barkley would benefit from Darron Gibson’s likely absence in the Everton midfield, and so it proved.

The 19-year-old capped what was described by Roberto Martinez as an “outstanding performance” with a sweetly struck goal to hand the Toffees the advantage at Carrow Road. While that was eventually surrendered to a debut strike from Ricky van Wolfswinkel, Barkley had done more than enough to have us Fantasy Managers take notice.

Barkley is owned by less than 2% of FPL managers and yet, at just 4.5, offers obvious appeal as a fifth midfielder for those now frantically looking for a route to recruit Van Persie.

Can he retain his starting role? It’s perhaps doubtful but in Martinez he’s playing under a manager who will give young talent a stage to impress. Barkley will surely start at home to West Brom next weekend and that might just be good enough for plenty of Fantasy managers.

The Selection Poser

The absence of Robert Snodgrass in today’s Norwich lineup was a bitter blow. According to Chris Hughton, a groin problem kept him out of the reckoning and allowed new signing Nathan Redmond to sparkle. Hughton did indicate that Snodgrass’ problem is minor, having been “touch and go” for today’s clash. The Norwich boss also stated that the Scot would have started over Elliot Bennett, offering some reassurance that Redmond’s performance will not be a cause for further doubt for Snodgrass owners.

The Norwich City lineup does create further issues, however. Steven Whittaker’s strike underlines his case to retain his start at right-back, although we can surely expect Seb Bassong to earn a recall once fully fit. It remains to be seen if club captain Russell Martin will oust Whittaker at full-back, or whether Michael Turner will eventually come under threat.

Arsene Wenger would love such options. With injuries to Kieran Gibbs and Bacary Sagna, coupled with Laurent Koscielny’s dismissal, the Gunners rearguard is now in tatters. Already deprived of Thomas Vermaelen, Wenger looks set to a patched up back four to face Fulham next weekend. Those who invested in Per Mertesacker and Wojciech Szczęsny will already be considering an exit route.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    RVP owners. Whats your score and fom how many players?

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Non-RVP owner

      48 (including bonus), with 4 to play.

      3 are Chelsea players, one of which is my captain.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Only 1 to post.
        Funny that.
        Well done Ron.

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        1. r0nh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I guess the RVP owners are casuals & not on this site...

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      2. Badger
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        48, Hazard (c) - twice, Silva and Benteke left to play.

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    2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      My douche of a bro got 43 with ramires ivan (c) and Dzeko and benteke to play

      I got 35 with Soldado haz (c) dawson benteke lukaku to play.

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        No bonus included in above scores...

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    3. TheSteel
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      45 n terry hazard(c)

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    4. JPSpurs
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      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      54, 4 to play...

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      1. JPSpurs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Lukaku (c), Oscar, Soldado and Paulinho to go...

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    5. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      52 pre baps (expecting around 12), Hazard (C), Lukaku, Soldado, Jedinak still to play

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  2. get_in
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Szczesny owners , what are you thinking? Hold off for an early wild card, play your reserve, or transfer? I had planned to keep for the first 10 gw anyway, but do they even have anyone to play in defence next week apart from Mert and Jenkinson?

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    1. 8-2
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      My priority is losing DGW players. Chesney can sit tight. I'm playing my WC after week 3 during the international break.

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    2. Red5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Chesny's gonna come out of that game with possibly the least deserved 7 points in FPL history.

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      1. 8-2
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I'll take them regardless.

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    3. Badger
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Keep. Obvious swap is to Mignolet but I'm happy with Toure and don't fancy doubling on Liverpool defence.

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  3. Romani
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Sky Game: I just changed Captain ready for tomorrow because i will be in work then and my double Captaincy points for today were lost! Hope this is a blip rectified overnight or is it something I've missed?

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    1. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      All the non-owners knew the risks they were taking by not owning him. Quit acting like you're some sort of genius.

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I don't believe he is

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  4. Crazy Joe
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Well I'm remaining calm, 8 points with 10 to play this week (4 + 3DGW).

    It's a marathon, not a sprint.

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  5. Evans
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    " I feel like an arsenal supporter "

    The words I would use to describe my FPL performance today

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      4th best score! Well done 😉

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  6. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    As one of the 57% rvpless.

    I really hope Soldado has a stormer and not an agbonlahorer tomorrow.

    If he hattricks rvp wagon slows. His value rockets. We win...

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  7. Kanus hat trick
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Bit of a joke Koscielny's red can't be rescinded really

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    1. get_in
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Makes up for Szczesny not getting a straight red.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, this is how all decisions should be made.

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        1. get_in
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I don't see the point whinging about an incorrect call that went against your team when you benefit from an incorrect one that went your way. Nature of the beast, refs aren't infallible.

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          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            I wasn't whinging. I've not seen any of the incidents.

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            1. get_in
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              Wasn't referring to you, to Kanus.

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      2. Kanus hat trick
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Wasn't a red anyway. Plus the ref allowed Villa to play the advantage which they then make a mess off, then brought it back to give then pen

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    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Happens

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  8. hnmfm
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Is Stoke City Wilson nailed on?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yes, as far as I am aware. He is really rather good.

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    2. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nah wouldn't say so. He only played today because Palacios pulled out last minute.

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    3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      No. Only played because wilson palacios couldn't be bothered (got ill just before the match).

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    4. get_in
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      No

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    5. Prime
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Started cause Palacios got injured in warmup. At least need to wait and see how bad that injury is.

      Also had Pennant and Adam on the bench, so I think Hughes is still trying to fit his jigsaw puzzle in midfield.

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    6. World XI
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nope. played in Midfield. Surprised Adam did not start instead

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  9. Super John McGinn-
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I posted on here about a week ago, what happens to everyones plan when RVP scores a brace GW1 and his price rises. Everyone commented back saying it wont happen, my plan is to still get him GW4 but if the price rises too much im going the season without him. I am gutted! 🙁

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  10. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Arsenal fan. West Brom sympathiser. Koscielny owner. FML.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      🙁 Sorry, brother.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for the Noble recommendation - was a saving grace today.

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    2. Exilizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      harsh. Gutted about today too. Kos and lost a bet on arsenal.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Should have been a dead cert!

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  11. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    lads tempted to WC

    it would be

    IN

    RVP
    Boruc
    Luna
    Barkley

    OUT

    Jay Rod
    Cech
    Baines
    Mirallas

    good move or bad

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Bad. That team looks worse.

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    2. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Bloody awful... why the knee jerk?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        😆 Good party? 😉

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Cab booked for 8.30pm 🙁

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Jeez. Late party. You WILL be knackered! 😀

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      2. Scottys Army
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        im worried about not having RVP

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Why? It's not like you didn't know what he could do before this gw. Stay calm and ease him into your team if you want him that bad.

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    3. RVP IS Essential
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'd advise against it. Those players you have are fine and you can use 1-2 transfers a week to build up a budget for RVP over a couple weeks if you'd like.

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    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Bad move, if you got Baines and Mirallas keep them in

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    5. The one who has a knock
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Terrible waste and classic knee-jerkery.

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        cheers for the advice lads

        i need to be more patient

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  12. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Are the stock check articles still happening this year?

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  13. izo
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    How did Mirallas fare today?
    Did he look dangerous?
    And in general, did Everton play any different under Roberto?

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  14. GoonerByron
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    16 points, 3 Chelsea and 2 City to go.. Koscielny suspended... Wildcard time?

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    1. izo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      nope, don't do it!

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Keep calm and play a 4.0m defender. No big deal for one GW

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    3. Crazy Joe
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Not after 1 week.

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    4. Badger
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      No!

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  15. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Koscielny owners... Stick right? kinda concerned with the arsenal defense as a whole with sagna and gibbs injured even when he comes back.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nope. Straight out for Coleman. 🙂

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        only options for me are Collins(already got reid) or Shaw(already got Boruc) so i might stick

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I think Mirallas might go for Barkley, also. Or Hazard, if it all goes pear-shaped. Gotta get those dollars!

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      2. RVP IS Essential
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        And what if you have both Kosc and Jagielka like me. What do you do then? 🙂 (Besides call yourself stupid for spending .5 more to own Jags than Coleman.)

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Then you take a deep breath, and go double Everton.

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          1. RVP IS Essential
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            My balls are pretty big, but I'm not sure I have the kahunas for that one....

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          2. RVP IS Essential
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            I'm definitely considering it though. I'm like you and love the chase the rising budget early in the year. (Sure comes in handy in the second half of the season to have a huge budget.)

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        2. Exilizer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Get Collins or Reid. I am in the exactly same position. Coleman won't score every week, so don't beat yourself up too much.

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Kos > Coleman looks on the cards for me. Arsenal had a cracking away record last season winning many games 1-0 so perhaps we should not write them off just yet, but that's a dreadful start....

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Oh, I will get him back. But not just yet

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        1. Exilizer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Doosra, you know about West Ham right?
          Collins or Reid up until about GW10?

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    1. SW6
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      😀

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    2. get_in
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A young David Moyes?

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    3. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      😆 old rubber face

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  16. Super John McGinn-
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    However OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CHRITSTIAN BENTEKEEEEEEE!

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    1. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Absolute monster.

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    2. izo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He won me the league last year! Looks like a season keeper.

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    3. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Still glad he didn't go to Spurs

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    4. Exilizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Let't not exaggarate here, He scored a pen and missed a pen and got a lucky rebound. Apart from that I wasn't impressed.

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  17. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    So that's westwood in the sunderland goal then.. cech to westwood it is in a few weeks

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Too kneejerk. I think they'll be rotated.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        few weeks.. plan was to keep cech until i found the cheapest keeper to rotate with boruc.. still a while to go b4 i do it..

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  18. Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Im wildcarding anyone else?

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  19. Just One More Thing
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    A frustrating day all round mildly salvaged by Nolan and RVP. I promise you all I will never contemplate putting in an Arsenal defender again for the rest of the season. I also can't see me staying away from Benteke for too long...

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    1. Exilizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Arsenal should still get their fair share of clean sheets this season once the dust settles.

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  20. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Did rvp or welbeck get the 3 baps?

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    1. Saint Domingo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Wellbeck

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. Is it purely the bps column which indicates this?

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        1. Badger
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Yup, once they have finished adding all the extras to it (which they should have by now)

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  21. Tinydancer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I had Boruc Collins Shaw and Barkey on the bench ..... Kind of hoping siva and dzeko dont play 😛

    Anyways, Do yous think Koscielny will drop?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yes. 🙂 I have him. For a short while.

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  22. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    At the moment Baines > Coleman seems a good move to free up funds for more flexibility

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  23. Sulk
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Mitchu or silva? Michu looked good but quietened up when bony came on.

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    1. World XI
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Wait till Monday but i would say Silva. But seriously, don't be making transfers yet.

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      1. Sulk
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. I've wced

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    2. izo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Bony had chances and looked dangerous. Might be another master signing by Laudrup.

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  24. Ray Kinsella
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I refuse to panic over RVP. At £14m he's £5m more than Benteke, or to put it another way one whole player ! So, what points will (say) Benteke and a good defender get in combination, and will it be more than RVP on his own ? Sure, he's a great captain as a banker but he will have bad weeks, like he did last season.

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I will maybe get him when my team value is higher. Atm I dont think hes necessary as everyone with him will have weak depth

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      1. Ray Kinsella
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        totally agree. my rival has him, but virtually no-one else. i have benteke, sturridge and lukaku upfront

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  25. Nath88
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just realised my keeper didnt play (mannone) - anyone know what the deal is with him? I thought he was Sunderlands first choice!

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    1. World XI
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Westwood won the battle and is first choice

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  26. It's only Carlton Cole…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Non-RVP owner and happy with the squad. Lukaku to Bony is the only transfer I want unless Rooney signs. Don't understand why Transfer window finishes during the season?!

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    1. Exilizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Only thing that concerns me about Bony is that he is a Swansea player. Realistically what chance does he have to score >15 goals?

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      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Who are your alternatives? Benteke? Lambert? Berbatov? All these teams finished behind Swansea last year. And he'll have the Mighty Michu feeding him ball.

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  27. Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    How are none rvp owners planning to get him

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'm not. We haven't seen Soldado or Negredo play yet. I believe either or both can give RVP a run for his money this season.

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    2. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Possible wildcard after GW3. Was planning to bring him in week 4 if possible with a hit or week 6. Not Knee jerking. Sticking with the plan. Either Coutinho/Walcott/Hazard have to go from my team for that though. Originally I planned to get rid of Coutinho. Might do Walcott yet.

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  28. TheBallersClub
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    45 points with Kompany, De Bruyne and Hazard(c) to play. Quite happy with that.

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