The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

The Knee Jerk returns in a new, digestible format. An instant response to the matches or matches of the day, offering a quick appraisal of the protagonists and dilemmas posed.

Day one, and already Fantasy managers find themselves re-addressing their “big decision”. Conveniently, a precocious talent on Merseyside may just offer a ready-made solution.

The Game Changer

It was clear that the decision on Robin Van Persie would again split Fantasy Football managers down the middle. Owned by 43% of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers, there were vast waves of support for the argument that his huge 14.0 price tag was too much of an obstacle, that value could be found elsewhere to compensate for his undoubted consistency.

That might still be the case, as Christian Benteke and Danny Welbeck demonstrated, but Van Persie’s superb brace at the Liberty this evening will have prompted early doubts.

Those without Van Persie must now decide whether to remain firm and back their initial policy or consider extensive emergency surgery to acquire him. Should Van Persie return again at home to Chelsea, then big investment could arrive over the international break ahead of the delicious Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace in Gameweek 4.

If 14.0 looked too much this morning, we can only imagine where Van Persie will be in a few weeks if he shows that acclaimed consistency.

Van Persie really is the biggest test of the “jerky knee”.

The Underused

There was every chance that Ross Barkley would benefit from Darron Gibson’s likely absence in the Everton midfield, and so it proved.

The 19-year-old capped what was described by Roberto Martinez as an “outstanding performance” with a sweetly struck goal to hand the Toffees the advantage at Carrow Road. While that was eventually surrendered to a debut strike from Ricky van Wolfswinkel, Barkley had done more than enough to have us Fantasy Managers take notice.

Barkley is owned by less than 2% of FPL managers and yet, at just 4.5, offers obvious appeal as a fifth midfielder for those now frantically looking for a route to recruit Van Persie.

Can he retain his starting role? It’s perhaps doubtful but in Martinez he’s playing under a manager who will give young talent a stage to impress. Barkley will surely start at home to West Brom next weekend and that might just be good enough for plenty of Fantasy managers.

The Selection Poser

The absence of Robert Snodgrass in today’s Norwich lineup was a bitter blow. According to Chris Hughton, a groin problem kept him out of the reckoning and allowed new signing Nathan Redmond to sparkle. Hughton did indicate that Snodgrass’ problem is minor, having been “touch and go” for today’s clash. The Norwich boss also stated that the Scot would have started over Elliot Bennett, offering some reassurance that Redmond’s performance will not be a cause for further doubt for Snodgrass owners.

The Norwich City lineup does create further issues, however. Steven Whittaker’s strike underlines his case to retain his start at right-back, although we can surely expect Seb Bassong to earn a recall once fully fit. It remains to be seen if club captain Russell Martin will oust Whittaker at full-back, or whether Michael Turner will eventually come under threat.

Arsene Wenger would love such options. With injuries to Kieran Gibbs and Bacary Sagna, coupled with Laurent Koscielny’s dismissal, the Gunners rearguard is now in tatters. Already deprived of Thomas Vermaelen, Wenger looks set to a patched up back four to face Fulham next weekend. Those who invested in Per Mertesacker and Wojciech Szczęsny will already be considering an exit route.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. DelPuich
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    this bps is worse than last year. sturridge got the only goal of the game and isnt getting any bonus points. fak off

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Should baps be just based on goals?

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    2. Paz12
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Which is better ... scoring a single goal wasn't as influential as others.

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Good. He didn't play all that well.

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    4. TJR
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I take it you have Sturridge? 🙂

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      1. Frank Black
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah for a forward scoring goals is not that important, he focus on great tackles, savings and stuff...the new BPS is genius, especially when Baines is up for BP when he conceded 2 goals. Honestly, i think something's up. I think they're rewarding the players who cost the most or who are selected by most people or something. This is just stupid, i don't think i'll play the FPL this year.

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  2. Paz12
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I have Koscielny in TFF, which has only thirty transfers a season. Think it is worth using 1/30 transfers to ditch him?

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      he's out one week right? who's your backup if he's out?

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    2. marash
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      does anybody know how many transfers in or out determines a price rise or fall?

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    3. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He's out for 1 game, not worth it imo.

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      1. Paz12
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Look at the tatters of the Arsenal defence when he returns though?

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    4. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      keep, he's only our for 1 game. arsenal looked poor today, but they won't have to play the mighty villains every week

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  3. iain_90
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I am sad. But with Ivanovic, Hazard (C), Lukaku, Benteke and Soldado still to play, my GW is not a dosaster just yet. Keeling thr faith.

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    1. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      same here except benteke. judging by your last year's rank, you'll be fine

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    2. little_wizard123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lots have half of their team left plus DGWers so we've hardly started. About 1% of the way through the season!

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  4. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    tim krul

    value at 5 mil

    reasons

    1. nice run of fixtures from gw2
    2. no europa distraction dor newcastle
    3. good diff

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    1. Super John McGinn-
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think I am getting him in for Cech only for a couple of weeks before the WC but looks good

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    2. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      thinking the same, unless they look particularly leaky monday night

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  5. Jar Jar Winks
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Negredo to tear it up on monday

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Dzeko*

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      1. Jar Jar Winks
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        you don't pay 24m for a striker that wears the no9 shirt to play second fiddle

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        1. Kanus hat trick
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          How much did Dzeko cost again. Oh yeah, £27m 😆

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    2. Prime
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'm with you on Negredo. If he won't eat up Newcastle, he'll surely smash Cardiff and or Hull.

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  6. Tinydancer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Guys do yous think Koscielny will drop 0.1 ? or will it be 0.3?
    Im going to keep him benched (all the idiots on my bench scored 6+ today) if its only 0.1

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  7. Ted Maul
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I avoided RVP for fear that Ashley Williams might try and kill him again. Will consider him for gw4 now.

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      😆

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    2. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      tehehehe

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  8. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    big probelms for team in next gw

    thinking about keeping Kosh and playing likes of Terry(rotation risk against UTD) and Lampard even bigger rotation risk

    i am not happy and dont wanna waste transfer so i might just save 1 and play crap team

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Terry will play v Utd, 100%

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        And so will Lampard.

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  9. The EJJ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I need some consoling, 14 pts so far and Coleman on the bench, who else has done badly?

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      ahahah

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Should have made it into a paper aeroplane and thrown it to Wenger

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  10. Liastro ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    How about we all post our current scores below...I'm pretty sure we're doing better than we think.

    32 here

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      19

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      34 with soldado, benteke, lukaku, oscar, and hazard (c) still to play as well as baps for coleman and benteke

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        No wonder you hate them jair.

        35 with bps to come from mig Coleman and benteke.

        Soldado lukaku x2 benteke silva dawson and hazard x2 to play.

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      2. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        35 8 to play (including doubles plus cap x2

        it early days

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    3. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      36

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    4. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      38 (47 if including bonuses)
      From 6 players.

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    5. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      20.

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    6. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      46 with all the heavy guns to go.
      http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/thats-good.gif

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      1. A.T
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Post more Attila.

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    7. Saint Domingo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      28 🙁

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      1. The EJJ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        14

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    8. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      50 + 9 baps + haz (c) and lukaku

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    9. whoracle
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      46

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    10. teej
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      39 (with no BPS) + Haz, Oscar & Lukaku

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    11. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      33

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  11. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Who'll play in gibbs position if he's out for 2-3 weeks? i got koscielny and i fear a depleted backline even if i keep him

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    1. King Henrik
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      jenks

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    2. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Unless new signings come in next week:

      Ramsey-Sagna-Mert-Jenks

      🙁

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        sagna injured today too right?

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        1. New Ghost
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          He'll be fine for the Fenerbahce game.

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          1. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            ah thanks.. koscielny stays then. nothing;s changed since i picked him up today afternoon. was gonna be on the bench this week anyway

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    3. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Where's Andre Santos when you need him!

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  12. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    everybody needs to chill .. its a marathon not a sprint !

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  13. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    LOL

    I'm in the Stoke League: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/my-leagues/248334/standings/

    Code: 1064631-248334

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      shhhhhh

      😆 😆 😆

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    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Haha. Leave them alone.

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    3. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Peter Crouch has himself. 😆

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    4. Art Vandelay
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Walters would have had a decent score if he hadn't missed his pen. 😆

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    5. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Is this legit 😯

      Or am I just gullible...

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Nah, Pennant tweeted about it.

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    6. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      now my goal is to win that ML 😀

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    7. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      lol nice one

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      1. SW6
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        😆 Your team name

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      2. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Nice name 😀

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      3. Sleep Talk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Ha! You changed your team name for the Stoke-league? 😛

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      4. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Brilliant.

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    8. little_wizard123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      How the frig did you and Demi get the code!?

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Begovic is the admin.

        Admin ID-League No

        Join 1064631-248334

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    9. PMC3
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Charlie Adam had himself on the bench, bloody cheat! 😉

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    10. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Noice

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  14. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    You can more or less discount people without a dgw captain long term I think.

    Some in my league went RVP, but it just shows lack of common sense.

    Long term, they never last.

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    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lol so true

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    2. teej
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      2nd in my mini league, and I'm the only one doing well that DIDNT captain RvP. Come on Haz...

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    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      These people are total fools. My girlfriend father in his 70s played his first gw today captained Benteke. It really is a beautiful tale.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        😆

        Brilliant

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        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          And has Seamus Coleman, the mans a natural. I told him Villa have two games so do Chelsea he said 'I need Benteke'. Beautiful.

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  15. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just to show how much luck is involved GW1

    Just before deadline took out Rat for Coleman
    and put Borac in goal instead of Marshall

    an extra 14 points

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      nicely done

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  16. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    It's all bollox.... Only matters come gw38

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  17. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    The good thing with all the casuals captaining RVP is that they are all ahead of us.

    Means many green arrows as we gradually rein them in

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Your glass is half full, i like it.

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  18. Fantasy Football Friend!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Do Coleman etc. have all week to reach 37,000 NTI or does it reset at all?

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Resets once they rise 0.1.

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  19. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    RVP now goes to 14.3, everyone gets him, and he flops big time in the next two and i'll be back on track

    Swansea were simply dreadful, worse than Wigan, defensively.

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    1. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Swansea were the better side for periods of the game and 3 of the goals were world class, unlucky not to get something as ridiculous as that sounds.

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    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      How does everyone upgrade so easily?

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    3. little_wizard123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      They looked very good in my opinion overall.

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  20. SPorting
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Are there any posts in here that aren't:

    1) gloating crap (considering there is still a long way to go in the DGW) or

    2) insecure people trying to justify not having RvP or Benteke by quoting stats, theories and opinions.

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      The one below?

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      1. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks.

        Didn't see that one.

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Aye. You've got to be consistent and take the rough with the smooth in this game.

      With that said...ITS WILDCARD TIME!*

      *I'm not actually wildcarding...I think.

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    3. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah it's tedious on here during a matchday.

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  21. div
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    So Rat didn't play for WHU today. I thought he would have been a first team regular....

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  22. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Do the losing side get bps?

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A lot more likely this year than last, e.g.e Giroud and Szczesny getting some today but wouldn't have had a chance last year.

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  23. Blue Samurai
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Is whittaker nailed on for every GW...which position does he play? fullback or centreback?

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Right back

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      1. Blue Samurai
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        does he have any decent enuf competition or he is first choice?

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  24. bendernas
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    did many have rvp but not captain him?

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    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Me

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lots, there is a DGW....

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      1. bendernas
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        righto, should have said i did as well. mostly meant the folk around here

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    3. Just One More Thing
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Me

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    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I would estimate about 500,000

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    5. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      the whole world C'd him AND VC'd him.

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  25. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    i compleatly forget to say

    Lovren compleatly owned Anekla today 😆

    class players , cause of him saints defence will be great

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    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I hope so. I have boruc and davis

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    2. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I had a feeling Anelka would be no good , hes not done anything in competitive matches for years

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    3. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      A lot of idiot fpl players also owned anelka today

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    4. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      And their defence will be missing a man sometimes because of him and his love for red cards 😉

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  26. Misunderstood Genius
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Only player that entices me after today is Benteke, he will definetly be in my team after GW3 🙂

    Other than that, pleased with how things went, 31 points and still 3 Chelsea players and Silva and Soldado to go

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Monster
      And the way villa play they will get lots of penalties

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  27. guillermo
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    I see RVP scored 2...thats nice

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  28. DD11
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Benteke has really made me think. I wasn't sure he could replicate last year but he seems just as good. I was set on getting Soldado in for GW3 but if he doesn't score at Palace then Benteke will def be in for me!

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  29. JayCee
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Repost

    What's the deal with people buying Whitaker, Barkley and Kasami?

    Am I right in thinking none of them will be nailed on for a significant stretch of time? Anyone disagree?

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    1. Paz12
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Barkley probably will be challenged by Gibson when he returns from injury but if he keeps putting in startling performances he could well nail down the spot.

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