Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 6, Day 2

As the football fraternity still attempts to digest Germany’s 7-1 drubbing of Brazil, Holland and Argentina prepare for action in the second semi-final. Both sides made their way into the last four with narrow wins – the South Americans squeezed past Belgium with a third 1-0 win in four matches, whilst the Dutch required spot-kicks to finally get the better of Costa Rica:

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Mascherano, Biglia; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuaín

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi; Kuyt Wijnaldum, De Jong, Blind; Sneijder; Van Persie Robben

Alejandro Sabella makes two alterations from his quarter-final line-up. At left-back, Marcos Rojo returns after serving a one-match suspension, whilst in midfield, Benfica’s Enzo Perez is afforded his first start of the tournament at the expense of the injured Angel di Maria. Up front, Sergio Aguero only makes the bench after missing the last two through injury.

Lionel Messi’s Fantasy owners will be hoping for a return to form after the forward delivered just a single assist over the last two matches. Gonzalo Higuain came to the rescue last weekend and, having opened his account for the campaign with a sweetly-taken winner against Belgium, will be in buoyant mood for tonight’s encounter. The rest of Sabella’s side need to step up, though – aside from Messi and Higuain, no Argentina player has had a hand in more than one goal thus far.

After failing to find a way past Keylor Navas last Saturday evening, Louis Van Gaal will be desperate for his side to return to the form that saw the Dutch net 12 times in their first four fixtures. The Holland boss makes just once change from the weekend, bringing in fit-again Nigel de Jong for Memphis Depay, with Wesley Sneijder moving forward into the role in “the hole” in a 3-4-1-2.

Robin van Persie has recovered from a stomach bug, then, and the United man, along with Arjen Robben, will be key to their side’s progress. After scoring three goals apiece in the opening couple of group games, the duo have hit a drought – the Bayern man has managed a pair of assists over the last three matches, whilst Van Persie has blanked in both his subsequent appearances.

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  1. tm245
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    Couldn't we have spread out the goals over the two semifinal matches? Both unsatisfying this way.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      communist 😉

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      1. Evs
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        😆

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      2. Piggs Boson
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        🙂

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    2. tm245
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      I am killing the tops of the pages on this article.

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      1. Camp No No
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        With your communist propaganda.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Hahaha. Karl Marx, left winger? 😉

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          1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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            brezhnev and kosygin CBs

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Kruschev DM

              Gorbachov, dodgy striker?

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              1. tm245
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                Trotsky left back.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Stalin, right back. Obviously. 😉

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  2. Wilshere Knowledge
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    Any truth in the Vlaar to Barca rumours?

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    1. I.A.P
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      To United a heard....

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  3. MJ6987
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    Predictions?

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      Huntelaar winner.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      0-0, all penalties missed, match abandoned.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Brazil back in? 🙂

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        1. Camp No No
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          No thanks. They should be disqualified after yesterday. As a result, Colombia gets to the final against Germany. 🙂

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      I'll be asleep in 5. 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        +42. 😉

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    4. Pulp Minion
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      There will be snow before a goal

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  4. Your Mum's Athletic
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    Risked 100 on Argentina to win in extra time or penalties at 5/1, come on Messi!

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  5. The Missing Link
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    Team Nigeria has all its hopes and dreams pinned on demichellas on a yellow card. This can only end badly 😀

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  6. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    is van gaals hair gettin bigger..............looks like eraser head

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      ***Beavis

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        this

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    1. MJ6987
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      Wayne Rooney in 10 years time?

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Best. Tramp. Ever! 😆

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    3. Zep
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      Wow 😀

      'AV IT right at the end there...

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  7. LewanGOALski
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    I'd do with 0-0 actually. 4 defensive players in this game for me, meaning 16 extra points, which is like 2 goals from Messi (c)

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  8. r0nh
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    Never saved a penalty in his life 😆

    Genius idea to sub him off then 🙂

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    1. Camp No No
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      Obviously. Which is why this looks like LVG thinks he can win it on extra-time.

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  9. funny money
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    A moment to talk Arsenal if I may

    Navas
    Debuchy Mertesacker Koscielny Clichy
    Khedira
    Ramsey Wilshere
    Walcott Sanchez
    Giroud

    With remy as cover up front?????

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    1. Camp No No
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      Shut up about your Arse!

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    2. PKB
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      Clichy? 😉
      Navas heading to Bayern

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    3. Camp No No
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      To be honest, this match is just interesting enough to make Arsenal transfer speculation an intriguing subject.

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    4. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      On FIFA?

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      1. PKB
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        😀

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    5. VougieDipond
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      if they haven't signed on the dotted line don't put them in a potential team line up.

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    6. Wilshere Knowledge
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      No Ozil and Clichy in there? WTF is this?

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      1. funny money
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        ozil!!!!! good point - take out useless wilshere

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        1. funny money
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          ooooops - Gibbs …..

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  10. PKB
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    Eight WC knockout stage matches, zero goals. Excellent big game player. Robin Van Persie!
    I have big doubts bringing him in from the start of the season!

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    1. VougieDipond
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      wouldn't look too much into WC for PL form

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      1. Camp No No
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        Plus he's playing injured. But hey, let's not mention either of these points.

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        1. VougieDipond
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          he's always injured though

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    2. Fray Bentos
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      Swansea at home is a different kettle of fish

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    3. Red Devil Swede
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      He actually had a stomach sickness going on before this game. But for the other 7 games.. not really world class.

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  11. MJ6987
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    Who will take the pens for Arg if it gets that far?

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    1. funny money
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      messi

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      1. MJ6987
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        All of them?

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        1. funny money
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          aguero

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          1. MJ6987
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            I could have guessed those two!

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            1. funny money
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              rodriguez

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              1. MJ6987
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                Interesting.

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                1. funny money
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                  romero

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        2. Fray Bentos
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          They could try changing his shirt each time?

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  12. Pulp Minion
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    How tall is that 4th official - he makes all the subs look tiny

    (Granted one of them was Aguaro)

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  13. Declan
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    Haven't gained a point for any of my 7 players since extra time started 🙁

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  14. d1sable
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    Even with Uniteds fixtures I'm not convinced on going with RVP at this stage. He's been injured on and off for a year now nearly. Not convinced LVG can change things that much.

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    1. Declan
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      Will depend what price he is, I suppose.

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  15. Bubz
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    Is there something wrong with Messi? He doesn't seem right tonight.

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    1. VougieDipond
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      Big Ron has deep pockets and he is only a little guy

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    2. MJ6987
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      I called it earlier. Not as good as he's made out to be.

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      1. Bubz
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        He just doesn't seem bothered at all.

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      2. Billy Gilmore
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        Based on one game?

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        1. MJ6987
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          No. Barca base their whole team around him.

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            Most teams are based around their best player.

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          2. Wilshere Knowledge
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            Becaaaause...?

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            1. MJ6987
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              I know, it's kind of a circular thing!

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              1. Wilshere Knowledge
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                Do you watch Barca regularly?

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                1. MJ6987
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                  Not really

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                  1. Wilshere Knowledge
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                    Trust me, he is amazing almost every game. This game has made Aguero and Robben look awful as well. Just negative tactics and good defending.

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      3. Epic Fail
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        Best player in the world.

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      4. MJ6987
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        If he scores a wonder goal I reserve the right to retract this comment!

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        1. Epic Fail
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          😀

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    3. funny money
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      he is my captain - that is the problem

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        So! It is all your fault! 😉

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  16. emperikal
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    Can't believe I thought Messi (C) would be a good option over any defender. Ugh...

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      Touch of the Neymars - sore back from carrying this lazy team 😕

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
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        Reply fail for Bubs ^^^

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      2. Bubz
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        I think he's been one of the laziest on the pitch tonight though

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  17. Zep
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    A Messi winner would open the top 10 right up in Fox

    Cmon son!

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  18. Pulp Minion
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    Header got stuck in his hair

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  19. LewanGOALski
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    Lol @ Palacio

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  20. tm245
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    For those of you trashing Messi, look at who he has to play with!

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  21. funny money
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    wtf is Palacios??????????

    and what is he doing with his hair. Without that little pony tail he may have scored there ...

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  22. Bøwstring The Carp
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    5 clean sheets hanging in the balance here....

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    1. Declan
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      4 here

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    2. Epic Fail
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      3 here.

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      1. VougieDipond
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        2 here

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  23. VougieDipond
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    Cillessan racking up the saves with these tame shots

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  24. GunsnRoses
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    So Cillessen getting more than Neuer 🙁

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      whats he up to now

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      1. Declan
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        7

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          ahh so +5 for cleanie will clear 12

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            He's already got the save bonus.

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  25. GREENDREAMS11
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    mascherano and Vlaar have both been class tonight

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    1. LewanGOALski
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      Yeah. Excellent performance from them!

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  26. LewanGOALski
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    Messi (c) deliver point, as Cillessen's save point. Keep it up, chaps.

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  27. PKB
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    Ron Vlaar tonight:
    100% tackles won
    100% aerial duels
    11 clearances
    6 interceptions
    92% pass accuracy
    ROCK!!

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    1. LewanGOALski
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      Penalty missed in the penalties coming.. ;p

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      1. Grunter75
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        Boom! Spot on

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  28. MJ6987
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    This young Dutch midfielder is classy

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    1. Camp No No
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      Kuyt?

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