The final instalment in our series of Big Numbers articles focussing on Gameweeks 1-3 is rolled out this evening. After assessing the fortunes of defenders and midfielders, we now turn our attentions to the men up front – Chelsea and Southampton’s summer signings come under assessment, as do Everton’s in-form budget striker and the contrasting fortunes of a pair of Manchester-based front men.
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Only need to make a few more pennies to come out of my WC with 1m ITB and a great team.
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Have Welbeck on wildcard, Going to be hard to drop him now hes risen in price, was going to keep naismith for a few weeks
He's a much better option than Naismith.
Yeah but Naismith is a sub player anyway, 352 etc. So really you'd need to compare Welbeck to a starting 5th mid.
And compare Naismith to a 5th mid sub like Marney.
You can't compare him to Marney because inevitably your 5th mid in a 352 will be worse than your 4th mid and Welbeck would be in a 343. Should be anyway.
To compare 343 vs 352 you must consider this example
Naismith + mid priced mid (Tadic, Mirrales, Chadlii, Hendo etc)
Welbeck + budget mid (Marney, Zaha etc)
I currently have-
Fabregas/Hazard/Siggy/Sterling/RAMSEY
Costa/Rooney/Naismith
Welbeck gives-
Fabregas/Hazard/Siggy/Sterling/ 7.8 MIDFIELDER
Costa/Rooney/WELBECK
There just seems little value in that Tadic/Miralles range at the moment.
(dont ask about the triple Chelsea! Fab to Silva in a couple of weeks)Thats impressive but I'm guessing you're making sacrifices in your defence a wee bit. I'd also argue that you might want to play Naismith on occasion but I guess you could start him ahead of Siggy this week, however there wouldn't be many other occasions where I'd want to bench Siggy.
Great Team!!!!!!!!!!!
It's still not a good comparison because the budget mid will never play.
But what's interesting about that example is that I don't rate any of those mid priced options ahead of Zaha or JWP. Very good case for 343, that.Yeah, if the 7.8 in my example is say Zaha then Rooney easy to Falcao/Aguero
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Budget mids do play, having the flexibility of a playable 5th mid is important if you get annoying one week injuries to Costa and Ramsey etc like we have this week (although on this occasion I expect both of them to start). You're setting yourself up to fail if you rely on your starting 7 to be playing week in week out with no issues whatsoever.
Meh. I'm content with someone who will play. I like to have a Brady/JWP type. But it's not necessary. That's what transfers are for.
Thats what makes Naismith attractive. He has far more potential than any mids in a similar price change. Although having said that I have both Zaha and Naismith. Zaha is still only a punt at this stage though I think.
*range
I like Zaha more than Naismith mainly because he's properly nailed. And there are plenty of mids in Naismith's price range who could prove as or more valuable...
Zaha, Moses, Mutch, Ramirez, Shelvey, JWP, Brady...
Just takes one to settle in and find form. Naismith is at the very least a serious rotation risk.Those mids are terrible tbh. None of them have proven anything whereas Naismith is playing in Barkley's place and has gotten off to an excellent start. He started almost every game at the end of last season and there was more competition for places back then than there is now.
Zaha I'm hoping should be good but he's only made a sub appearance so far so its a risk.
Having two in this price range means they can be rotated a bit, thats my plan anyway.
Wouldn't the fifth mid be higher in value because you had Naismith. So someone like Zaha or Dyer maybe a fairer cimparison
True Ryan, I was happy to have Naismith in the 3-5-2 and lose some of his points on the bench. Welbeck at 7m is just a bargain. Compared gash like Pelle in that range and even higher to the drunk giraffe that is Adebayor
Agree Muppet. If i could get a Costa, Welbeck Aguero front line with some Sterling, Siggy and Fabregas i would be happy. Nearly there!
i could get that front line by next GW 😉
I wouldn't worry so much about 0.1. Worry about selecting the right team.
@ZAN KOREASKI (if you're still there),
Regarding your proposed use of FT, think you should sit on it and just hope for your best. More info should lead to better trannies next GW.
Thanks nabil, went away to kfc for lunch but back again now 🙂
Will see what noises come out of hull around starting 11 as real risk i wont get a full team out this week with costa, ramsey, mata, ince, wanyama and wisdom all under injury cloud or starting spot in question
I don't mind that i've missed the Welbeck rise, it's always best to wait until friday night if you can
I concur. However that price rise has inches me closer to getting Kun instead for this GW.
better to be 1 week late than 4 weeks early as a wise man on here once said
Fantrax Draft Red Division RMT
Guzan
Azpilicueta Clyne Jones Moreno
Lamela Gerrard Schurrle Zaha
Pelle RVP
Walcott Benteke DeMichelis AssaidiLong term maybe but next 2 Naismith has West Brom and Palace. I think that gives sufficient time to see how Welbeck fits in. The .1 doesn't make a difference to the number of points he will score vs City
Just took part in my first FPL Draft... Here's the team I ended up with:
Forster
Cahill - Debuchy - Bertrand - C.Davies - Pieters
Silva - Siggy - Mirallas - Puncheon - Oscar
Aguero - Bony - Ulloa - Ings
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How deep is your league?
9 teams.
Terrible. Most of the league was on autopilot. I was trying to draft on my phone, got frustrated and quit.
Sucks you couldn't make picks. How did your team come out? Mine is posted above.
I haven't looked. With Cheese and others picking Larsson and other scrubs early on autopilot it was a bit pointless TBH.
Yours is
Szczesny
Baines - Kos - Zab - Fonte - Skrtel
Yaya - Nolan - Mutch - Shelvey - Livermore
Rooney - Welbeck - Giroud - RemyNot terrible. My first four picks were money. The Giroud pick on auto sent me over the edge.
Really more annoyed that it was delayed so many times to the one night I wouldn't be home. But then draft leagues are pretty well diminished when most of the league doesn't show up to draft. Oh well...Giroud 😆
Looks alright otherwise5th round the Draft Room/my phone crapped out after taking Rooney/Yaya/Welbeck/Baines. I promptly left the Draft Room.
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Aguerooooooooooooooo
and Silva too? Hmm.. 😉
Very decent team. Not sure about Oscar but the rest is good.Oscar was a late pick. If he gets some form and is the Chelsea CAM then I'm happy to have him 🙂
Pray hard for it!
Really wish I could play any PL draft, Fantasy NBA Draft was really fun for me last year.We should set one up for a few of us regular DZers 🙂
Indeed. Would be boss if we could coordinate it properly.
Look up. Your team looks good.
As does yours. Brave move getting Walcott and Benteke though.
Hope at least one of them pays off.
Mirallas is going to rip it up for you 🙂
Okay, all set to get Kun as Jovetic replacement instead of Welbs.
So, in order to fund it, Hazard ->
A. Chadli
B. Dyer
C. Hendo
First to 3 wins.C
you think I should really double up LIV mid?
Don't like any 🙁
It's saddening, but just pick! 😛
C
Hendo for the fixtures.
Yep, his fixtures are awesome.
hendo cause i have him
Wow, that's surprisingly unanimous! I thought Chadli would have some votes. Thanks all.
Hendo safest, chadli riskier but more upside
Just checking to see if I'm good to go for this week.
Courtois
Clyne Colo Moore
Hazard Ramsey Mata Sterling(c) Siggy
Aguero Adebayor
Subs: Gilks, Vaz Te, PVA, Wisdom.
A few questions for you:
Captain Hazard or Sterling?
Moore or PVA?
Flagged players fine to play? (Haz & Ram)Sterling
Moore
Should be. Gamble on it.as you have it
Any 4.4 mifielders likely to play much? Boyd at Burnley?
Anyone considering Nasri or Lallana long term?
neither
How in the blue hell Welbeck's price gone up ?
He's dat guy. 😀
Would you do Jovetic to Welbeck for -4?
Depends on your bench
Ordinary.
City is a tough fixture. Need at least an assist to make it worth while and welbeck already went up. I think I would wait til next week and see what happens
Oh.. Welbeck.
I've been waiting so long for the rise of Moreno and Clyne. 🙁
Can't believe people are falling for Welbeck. Welbeck!!! 😆
He can't be that bad if he can score goals for England.
This.
He's scored 20 league goals in 7 seasons!!!
He isn't a winger so naturally would struggle for goals if he was forced to play out wide, which he was.
And Naismith! Naismith!!! 😆
Quite happy so many aren't. 😀
Understnd what you mean Willis but for 7m and (hopefully) the main man up top for Arseanl i can see the appeal.
I know 'coverage' is frowned upon but to be involved in resnal for that price is good value.
Arsenal- Welbeck
Man City- Aguero
Liverpool-Sterling
Chelsea- Costa.
Then add Fab/Haz/Ramsey/Di Maria/Silva as you see fitand Siggy of course
actually my main concern is how nailed he is..he hasn't started a game , may be even if he does he minght not be getting more than 60-70 minutes..just my worries..
Thinking of this as a wildcard team:
Begovic - Gilks
Clyne - Van Aanholt - Moreno - Coloccini - Moore
Fabregas - Sterling - Tadic - Siggy - Boyd
Diego Costa - Balotelli - Rooney
Would have 1m in the bank. Will probably bring in Ramsey/Theo + Welbz in for a Rooney/Balo and Tadic around GW8.
Thoughts?Forgot to ask. Could do Baines/Wisdom instead of Van Aanholt/Moreno as well.
Thoughts on potential WC team:
Bego (4.0)
Moreno Clyne Van Aanolt (Duff Hutton)
Sterling Fabregas Siggy Zaha (4.5)
Aguero Costa Falcoa
.6 in bank that could be used anywhere
Thought process being you can always come down from any of those 3 forwards if injury or bad form but WC'ing and not having them gets very tricky getting up to them ever from a Wellbeck or NaismithCould also use the .6 to go from Fab/Zaha to Tadic/Cabella, 2 guys I think are on the verge of breaking through fantasy wise. Just thinking out loud at this point.
My team:
Mignolet/Krul
Cahill/Shawcross/Sagna/Jagielka/Skrtel
Sanchez/Siggy/Fab/Ki-Sung/Davis
Jovetic/Costa/Jelavic
I'm trying to move money without using my WC, I've come up with these options for this GW, both for a -4
A)Sagna--->Wilson & Davis---->Henderson for a 4-4-2
B)Skrtel--->Wilson & Jovetic--->Balotelli for a 4-3-3
A is possibly the safer option while B could bring in big points this week...much obliged lads!Wildcard. Need to change just about every player in that team (except Siggy, Fab and Costa)
I'm struggling with Captain choice folks...
Sterling - great form but just played 180 minutes of Hodgeball. Villa no pushovers defensively.
Rooney - Average form and also played two games of Hodgeball. QPR kinda crap though.
Balo - Guaranteed starter, should have scored vs Spurs.
Any thoughts? I'm currently very tempted by Balotelli.
I would choose Balotelli if I had him. My choice is (in order of preference) Costa, Sterling, or Rooney.
I'm giving Rooney 1 more week otherwise Rooney>Balotelli is going to materialize fairly quickly. I hope Welbeck stays quiet until the next international break so I can get him cheap before Arsenal's fixtures improve.
How nailed do you think Welbeck is and his playing time ?
You'd think he'd be nailed on with Sanogo being rubbish, Sanchez struggling up front and Giroud injured. Despite all that however I'm still not sure. I prefer to monitor at this stage.
i thought so too , then his price rose >.
Bringing in Welbeck for Naismith would require a hit and dropping Tadic+Naismith (who both have great fixtures) so I'm holding off until his fixtures improve. Judging by how slow rises have been he won't rise again until after the City game, and at 7.0 he'd still be a snip.
As for the original question, its a 50/50 imo. Sanogo would offer an outlet for Arsenal against City, but Welbeck offers pace on the counter. Its a bit of a toss-up between Welbeck, Sanchez, and Sanogo, so I'd hold off if I were you.
Can't wait for FPL to return 🙂 Just over 55 hours to go!
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Aye, cap'n 🙂
Welbeck/JWP vs Naismith/Tadic ?
I have the latter pair, but may consider changing next week (while also saving 0.7 in the process). I like Tadic due to fixtures, but it might be economical to cash in on Welbeck's rise if he scores a couple.Help please.
a) Terry + Moreno
b) Baines/Coleman + Pieters
c) Ivan + Wilson
A
I take it your budget is around 12.0...
I would get Moreno in whichever one you choose. I'd have Clyne if you don't have him already. Or Janmaat if you don't have Krul.
Assuming my injury doubts get confirmed fit, which of these moves would you do?
A) Jovetic -> Ade
B) Ramsey & Jovetic -> Sterling & Ade (4 points)
C) Sanchez & Jovetic -> Sterling & Balo (4 points)
D) Sanchez & Bony -> Sterling & Costa (4 points)
E) Bony & Jovetic -> Costa & Naismith (4 points)
F) Sanchez, Bony & Jovetic -> Sterling, Costa & Welbeck (8 points)
Krul
Terry, Clyne, Wisdom
Sanchez, Hazard, Ramsey, Siggy
Rooney, Bony, Jovetic
Elliot, Chambers, Hutton, Albrighton
Bank 0.4mC or D
F, but I don't like -8's.
Scrap that, C or D.
I know it probably wont be popular with others but F.
Sorts out-
-Under performing/ scoring FF points (imo) Sanchez. he may well come back later in the season. Get on form Sterling with good fixtures
-Bony to Costa. Yes and yes
-Jovetic to Welbeck. yes
All 3 of the ins will stay with you for the short to medium term barring injury.If not then D
True that, although on reflection I'm not sure Jovetic -> Welbeck is worth an extra hit this week.
Won't be popular but in currently on B. Fancy Ade and Sterling to both do well the next couple of weeks and it let's me keep hold of Sanchez, who I fancy to kick on now he has his goal (2 in 2 now for ARS)Ade is a player that i am probably biased against. I watch many Spurs games and as an actual player he is one of the most ingratiating ever. Still seems to score the FF points and as nailed on as they get i guess
Yeah, know what you mean. He has pens in his locker too I believe.
Even A might be the safer play with all the hits going around this week
Sanchez>Sterling is a solid move imo, as is Jovetic>Naismith. Both save you a ton of cash as well. Balotelli is a nice option too, so I'd probably do C.
Might want to wait on clarification on Costa's injury situation first
For next 8 GW's;
Forster - NEW swa QPR tot SUN STK hul LEI
Krul - sou HUL stk swa LEI tot LIV wba
Gotta be Forster right?Yep, easily imo
is boruc definitely out of the picture now?
Here's an interesting one
Aguero+Naismith or Diego Costa+Welbeck ?C+W
Of those 4 strikers I'd want 3 of them.
My front 8 no bench player !!
Ramsey Fabregas Siggi Sterling Tadic
Welbeck Rooney Costa
going for a fluid strategy where bench player depends on fixtures. This week it Siggi at Chelea Then it Fab at man c then it Welbeck at man c
Normally this strategy not so great , but with Welbeck effectively being a big hitter at a very low price makes it possible , same with Siggi ,big hitter cheap price, hve to adapt to situation
Will not be forced into transfers with this strategy as can bench an injured forward as have good replacement , not marney or albrightonNeeds more Chadli.
If tadic turns out to be no good, he may be the next in
agree , only the flaws being u could miss the price hike on certain players (as injury to certain player will cause majority to shift to another one) due to your reliable 5th midfielder , unless u switch back to budget 5th midfield..and slight compromise of 1st choice defenders quality..
true , although obiously i will still have transfers, first piority will be to save next week and get two frees, then its easy to switch should circumstances dictate
I've got this team but Naismith instead of Welbeck. I like this strategy but having Welbeck in there instead of Naismith causes some issues such as crippling the defense.
You might want to consider swapping Tadic for Dyer and upgrading Rooney to Aguero for example. Its tough to drop one of the other 4 mid's though, but saving could allow you to improve the defense.
The front line I invisage myself towards in GW8 (2nd int. break) when Arsenal's fixture's improve and Welbeck has settled is Balotelli-Costa-Welbeck. It all depends on how long Naismith can keep his form up as Everton have good fixtures GW8 onwards too. Barkley's return could force my hand though.Sound Trigger. I would personally have Tadic as a 5.5 and get cash ready for Rooney to Aguero but we all play different.
I dont see the need for Aguero
Welbeck has Man City this week.
You'll regret not having Aguero.
I agree with Muppet. 0.1 short of doing Tadic -> Chadlii and Rooney -> Aguero
Or is it? It'd be a good change if affordable
Krul
Clyne // van Aanholt // Wisdom
Cesc // Ramsey // Siggy // Sterling
Aguero // Costa // Rooney (c)
Elliot // Albrighton // Dummett // Hutton
WC = Used
Bank = 0.1
FT = 1
G2G & save FT?
Cheersno rojo love mojo rojo?
Not keen on United's defence at the minute.
why not? decent run coming on
Yeah, but that defense makes me very nervy looking at it.
Wisdom not nailed
That defense looks really poor. WBA have dreadful fixtures apart from Burnley in GW6, as do Villa. Neither Dummett or Hutton are nailed on either, and Gamboa might replace Wisdom soon.
You might also want to reconsider Rooney as captain given his poor form and threat from being substituted for Van P or Falcao. Sterling or Costa would be my suggestions.
Need some transfer help lads! 1FT and £0.2m in the bank. Obviously there's doubts about ~4 of my XI. Thoughts?
Bego
Terry Clyne Jones
Sterling Siggy Ramsey Eriksen
Rooney Costa Jovetic
Bench - Duff, Marney, ChambersJones and Jovetic should be prioritized I suppose.
Jovetic>Naismith?
Do you know how long Jones is out for?
Jones to Moreno/Lovren and Jovetic to Welbeck look good
Bench order intact?
Vaz Te
PVA
Wisdom
9 years, 8 months agoTaking into account the rate of risers/fallers this season, I'm makin' it rain up in hur.