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Dugout Discussion – France vs Portugal

Euro 2016 comes to its conclusion this evening as France take on Portugal in Paris.

The hosts are firm favourites to triumph after seeing off Germany 2-0 in the semi-finals on Thursday evening. Didier Deschamps’ side have scored at least twice in five of their six matches over the tournament – indeed, a goalless draw against Switzerland in their final group fixture was the only occasion that Les Bleus have failed to chalk up a victory.

Portugal’s road to the final has been less convincing. Fernando Santos’ side didn’t win any of their first five fixtures in normal time before defeating Wales 2-0 over 90 minutes.

Delving into the data, the two nations boast very similar threats in the final third. In terms of minutes per attempt over the tournament, France just edge it by 5.3 to Portugal’s 5.5, whilst they also have the slimmest of leads for shots on target (36 to 34).

The home side have been far more clinical. Deschamps’ troops have netted 12.3% of their opportunities compared to their opponents’ 7.1%, which equates to 13 goals to eight.

At the back, the pair have served up three clean sheets apiece, with France’s defence slightly more resilient, having conceded four times to Portugal’s five. Given that they are also near-identical for shots inside the box conceded (33 to 31), though, tonight’s clash may not be quite as one-sided as many anticipate.

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  1. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Ronaldo and Clattenburg

    So 90-120 minutes of who can get the most TV time between them

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Clattenburgs has has a bet on Ronnie not lasting 60 mins 😉

  2. Forza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    I wonder how Clattenburg's gonna mess this one up.

    1. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Doesn't often mess up that's why he's been given the job

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        This, gets far too much unwarranted bad press

        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah he's not a bad ref as such but he does love the attention to be on him a lot of the time 😀

        2. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Best ref about lets the game flow as much as possible takes no nonsense and respected by the players for it

    2. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Send off Ronnie and Greaseman would be quite funny....

  3. Jay_
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Only good thing for me is, if Potugal fail, us West Ham fans can say we won the Euro 16 just like we won the World Cup 66 😀

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        But Giroud & Kos don't play for Wist Am

    • Dušan Citizen
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Cmon nobody!

    • Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I smell a Koscielny header tonight.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Pogba*

      2. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Well he's a defender so he should get many headers

    • La Roja
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Nani fail

    • Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Nani just over.....

    • Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      William Carvalho looks like some throwback from the late 80s with that moustache

    • Somalion
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Some great clearances from both teams early on.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Pulis must be proud.

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Shame it was the strikers 😯

    • Somalion
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Ronaldo dead 😯

      1. Fergies fledgling
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Quick get the bullet out!

    • Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Payet. Tut tut.

    • Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Ronnie d e a d...."

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Dare to Dream

    • Somalion
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Ronaldo resurrected.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Quick ego injection, works wonders

    • Jay_
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Great save, great football, excluding Pepe

      • TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Big save

      • Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Save point closing in now

      • La Roja
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Beautiful save

      • Jay_
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Patricio save 2

        • Fergies fledgling
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Great header Griez. Good save

        • Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Thankfully Griezzman didn't score there as I could do without seeing that stupid celebration

          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I presume he's doing his Drake impression?

            https://media.giphy.com/media/7e0EvlBD7nxZu/giphy.gif

        • Somalion
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Tournament winning saves there.

        • Mull
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Did Wild Rover enjoy the tennis chat over the last two weeks? 😆

        • Syd.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Sissoko > Pogba

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Agreed, he definitely has more letters in his name. Good spot.

          2. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Lol, 1 plays for Newc the other for Man Utd!

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Championship > Serie A

              1. HVT
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                😉

        • Jay_
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Do you think FPL should have a rule that if your captain goes off injured inside say 15 minutes, then you automatically switch to your vice?

            1. La Roja
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Erm

              No

            2. HVT
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              No

            3. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Nope. Part and parcel of the game is a captain fail.

            4. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Could have scored before injury.

            5. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Nope. If you want to avoid this, don't captain a player who gets injured. Simple.

          • Weeb Kakashi
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            So its down to

            Evra Koscielny for me

            Fonte Mario +1pt to my rival

          • KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Griezmann playing himself into Ballon d'or contention imo

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Suarez should be the front runner for that but we all know it won't be given to anyone outside of Messi or Ronaldo.

              1. Wilshere Knowledge
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Suarez or Sakho eh Berbs? 😉

              2. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Suarez been exceptional but Ronnie scored 50 plus goals too and 16 on the way to winning the CL.. in other words take a back seat Luis

            2. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Na.

              Messi should win it.

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Lucky to make top 3 this year

                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  😆

                  Messi in midfield, Ronaldo up front. Messi clearly offers more than Ronaldo outside of goals and assists, and has scored more goals and got more assists.

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Not sure what you find funny.. Ronaldo will be ahead of him for certain this year.. Suarez has out performed him.. and like i said above Griezmann could well too

                    1. Wilshere Knowledge
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Messi- 34 goals, 23 assists.
                      Ronaldo- 32 goals, 11 assists.

                      Messi also scored one of the best Copa goals ever scored in the final, on top of winning La Liga.

                      Nobody who watched Spanish football could in their right mind choose Ronaldo over Messi given their 2016 thus far.

                      1. KingNidge
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Pretty similar numbers as is the case every other year.. then factor in the biggest club trophy of all the CL.. Ronaldo 16 goals and winner.. the only way to separate the two over the years has been the most important silverware as both have been scoring at ridiculous rates.. History will tell you that.. Now Suarez won exactly what Messi did but out performed him in numbers... and going back to my original point for the third time Griezmann club season factored in with top scoring on the way to possibly winning these Euros puts him well in the mix

                        1. Wilshere Knowledge
                          • 10 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          Those 16 goals weren't all in 2016, and 6 of them were against Malmo last year. Modric and Bale were both more important, and Ronaldo didn't contribute in either semi games, or the final.

                          And importantly, Messi has been effectively playing in midfield. Messi minus goals and assists contributes to the team. Ronaldo minus goals and assists is detrimental to the team. Given Messi outperformed in terms of goals and assists, how can Ronaldo be ahead?

                          Griezzman isn't close to Messi, despite what people who have seen him once or twice might say.

                          Suarez scored more goals, but Messi is still the star of the team.

                          Do you regularly watch Spanish football?

                          1. KingNidge
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            He won the CL in 2016 he single handedly dragged them through their quarter final from 2 nil down with a hat trick in 2016

                            It isn't an award given on numbers alone how many times do i need to stress this point.. for the last 10 years Messi and Ronaldo put up ridiculous numbers that no one can get close too ( Suarez has this year) and so the award is decided by the most important silverware.

                            I'm not suggesting Griezmann is better than Messi im suggesting he is more than worthy of consideration after a sensational season and if he fires his country to euro glory it eclipses anything Messi has achieved this season it's not rocket science

                            Yes Suarez has scored more goals but they don't count do they not? numbers only important when comparing Ronaldo and Messi above?

                            1. Wilshere Knowledge
                              • 10 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              It's decided on who is the best performing player in that year

                              'Yes Suarez has scored more goals but they don't count do they not? numbers only important when comparing Ronaldo and Messi above?'

                              I was addressing just Ronaldo and Messi, and Messi minus goals and assists contributes to the team. Ronaldo minus goals and assists is detrimental to the team. Given Messi outperformed in terms of goals and assists, how can Ronaldo be ahead?

                              And Ronaldo's hat-trick was an absymal free kick that went through the wall, a deflected cross that gave him a tap-in, and a good header. Not Ballon D'Or worthy.

                              I'm done now. Cba.

                              1. KingNidge
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                Take it easy mate

            3. HVT
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Possibly a big transfer move too kn, @ 25 looks s great buy.

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Could well be mate

            4. Fergies fledgling
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Can't believe he's played 70 games this season

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Wow that's crazy

          • Grounderz
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Does anybody have a good stream? Every stream here I've been is laggy.

          • La Roja
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Ronaldo struggling

          • VS10_
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Ronaldo 🙁