Opinion

The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 22

A day for differentials.

Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino and West Bromwich Albion’s Gareth McAuley are the only two players with more than 10% ownership to hit double-digits.

Firmino was teetering on the edge prior to the today’s deadline – owned by just over 456,000 FPL managers or 10.6% – the Brazilian had shed 340,000 since Gameweek 16.

Such losses are understandable, sparked by a dismal run of paltry returns. A single goal over ten barren Gameweeks – his strike in a 4-1 victory over Stoke City – did little to stem a tide of rejection. With Sadio Mane and Adam Lallana thriving, Firmino owners were switching allegiance or looking elsewhere as rival heavy-hitters delivered.

Today’s 14-points will reverse matters, for now at least. That fifth double-figure haul for Firmino ironically arrived on a day that saw Philippe Coutinho make a return to the Liverpool starting line-up. Withdrawn on 65 minutes, his comeback was curtailed as he gave way to allow his compatriot to take centre-stage.

While his two goals were not enough to save Liverpool from defeat, Firmino’s own Fantasy stock is revived, just as thousands were making or considering the move for his Brazilian team-mate.

But Coutinho’s early withdrawal has already proved enough to give some early adopters the jitters. Meanwhile, after suffering a third successive blank, Lallana has now returned just a single goal and an assist in six starts.

Based on early transfer activity, both are facing ownership losses over the extended gap to Gameweek 23, with this shifting affection from one Liverpool asset to another typical of behaviour this season.

Two prolonged spells of form from Coutinho’s and Lallana have come close to resolving the argument but, in truth, we look unlikely to ever settle on one of Klopp’s midfield as a dependable “solution”.

Perhaps the key question should be whether we should overlook them altogether.

Two draws and a defeat has stalled the Liverpool title bid, while over the last four Gameweeks, their attacking numbers are settled in mid-table. They face Chelsea next.

Sadio Mane’s absence appears to be a key factor and, arguably, until his return, we should reserve judgement, regardless of Firmino’s flurry.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    LMAO at Schlupp rolling back onto the pitch then whinging about the goal

  2. StoichkovFPL
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    How to fix that defense? Alonso, Evans*, Holebas*, Ake*, Amat*. Evans will be back next game and Holebas is 1 PL game banned.

    a) Ake, Holebas > Chambers, Funes Mori for -4
    b) Ake, Amat > Friend, Holgate for -4
    c) Ake > Chambers only

    1. Lukey27
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Holebas out for 2 games.

      1. StoichkovFPL
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        one is in Cup

        1. Lukey27
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          good point!

    2. MTPockets
        7 years, 3 months ago

        c

        1. Maddamotha
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Similair to defence to mine. Also considering doing a hit in the defence. Do you think Holebas will drop to 4.6 until the Burnley game? If not it could be worth holding till then.

    3. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Time to watch yesterday's MOTM.

      1. Arteta
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        MOTD*

      2. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I am watching it now

        The Jeffrey Schlupp incident is hilarious

        1. StoichkovFPL
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          what happened?

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            He went down with cramp but was off the pitch at the time he then rolled back onto the pitch and wanted the referee to stop play. The Crystal Palace fans were booing the referee because he wouldn't stop play and then Coleman scored. Schlupp would have been the player who was marking him.

    4. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Morning.....any advice on what to do here???...got 3.3i5b.....thinking

      A....cedric to baines
      B...cedric and lallana to baines and alli -4

      Heaton pickford
      Alonso cedric Jones Pieters amat
      Sanchez lallana Phillips stanislas capoue
      Lukaku ibra kane

      Thanks

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        A

      2. StoichkovFPL
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        A

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers

    5. John wick
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Bottomed

      Choose of the following

      A. Eriksen and wimmmer
      B. Kun to kane

      Already having erisken but no city cover looking at fixtures of both teams

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        B

      2. Demel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I would definitely keep Kane.

      3. MTPockets
          7 years, 3 months ago

          the options don't seem to relate for comparison.

      4. Old Guy
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        When Idrisa Gueye is back, who will be replaced?

      5. _Gunner
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Good Morning All,

        Which is better?

        A- Aguero + Lallana > Kane + Alli/Erkisen

        B- Giroud + Lallana > Rondon + Alli/Eriksen

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          A

      6. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Get Kane in for a 1 week punt

        That Sunderland team is a complete mess

        1. TooDifficuIt
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          captain ?

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            If I did I would consider it

            I did own for the games against Hull & Burnley which I captained him. Got me 2 big red arrows

      7. UnitednationsXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        morning dzzz, gutted about the utd draw..esp with all the other teams drpping points...have 2fts and 0.9m...ideas?...cant save FT

        heaton (LEI) --- grant
        Valencia (HUL) Mcauly (mid) Smith (CPL) ---holebas* naylor*
        Pogba (HUL) sanchez (WAT) Alli (sun) philips (mid) --- fletch
        Kane (sun) Ibra (HUL) Giroud (WAT)

        A: grant >> jaku
        B: naylor/holebas >> chambers...have 3wba so cant get brunt
        C: something else?

        1. Demel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Hold fire. Injuries could well be in their way with cups etc.

      8. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Southampton v Leicester score predictions

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          1-1

        2. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          1-0

        3. Demel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          As long as Southampton concede I will be happy.

        4. Sailboats
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          0-0

        5. Lukey27
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          o-o

        6. Blue&White85
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Fancy 1-0.

      9. FPL Maldini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Which one should I do?

        A) Amat and Lallana --> Baines and Mirallas

        B) Evans and Pedro --> Baines and Phillips

        1. Wardinator
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          B

      10. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        So will Costa start today?

        I would guess it is almost a certainty

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          If there's nothing happening behind the scenes that we don't know, yes

      11. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Anyone eyeing up Benteke?

        Should have had a goal yesterday.
        Will probably be 7.3 before the next deadline. Great fixtures (bou, SUN, stk, MID).

        Appreciate your thoughts!

        1. Demel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Stoke and Bournemouth away are not easy games for Palace.

          Boro don't concede many.

          Benteke is hugely out of form.

          Palace are poor.

          Not for me.

        2. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          No.... Just watched his performance on MOTD he was absolutely useless. He just didn't look interested

          1. Sailboats
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            You obviously didn't watch the match.

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              I watched the highlights and he was awful

              Pundits totally slated him

        3. Lukey27
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Negredo+1.2itb>Benteke and hope for goals in the next five fixtures.

      12. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Sorry for the repost.
        Think it's time to shake up my defense.
        Jones and Daniels OUT
        Brunt and Coleman IN
        Achieved by Defoe to Andy Carroll for a hit

        Good moves,?

        1. Demel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I like Brunt and Coleman but Jones is at home to Hull. Not sure this is the week (and potentially for a hit).

        2. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Classic kbeejerk... You don't get those 4 goals retrospectively

        3. Cesc's old mullet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          "X to Andy Carroll for a hit" are words I never thought I'd see on here 😉

          Not sure you need to ditch Jones AND Daniels. You could keep on of them at least, maybe even both

        4. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Jones no CS and 2 baps. Hull at home next. Are you for serious?

      13. KUNingas
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Hi. What to do next? Have 1FT and 4.0 ITB
        A) Holebas -> Brunt/Baines
        B) Hazard -> Eriksen
        C) Both (-4)

        Grant
        Alonso, Valencia, Cedric
        Sanchez, Hazard, Coutinho, Stanislas, Phillips
        Ibra, Giroud

        Pickford, Holebas, Amat, Anichebe

        1. MTPockets
            7 years, 3 months ago

            A but I'd bin Amat.

            1. KUNingas
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Not sure I want to use my FT for non playing benchfodder.

              1. MTPockets
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Fair enough, Amat just grates on me.
                  Keep eye on blanks as bench may matter.

                  1. KUNingas
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Thanks

          • Sz21
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Alonso, Walker, Jones, Holebas, Amat.
            Eriksen, Lallana, Sanchez, Phillips, Whelan.

            2ft's to sort out some of these guys..
            Funes Mori or Nyom in for Holebas for now?

            Which of these 2 look better.
            Neither have blank GW's..

            1. MTPockets
                7 years, 3 months ago

                F Mori I guess.

            2. Scotty B
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Cech
              Chambers Baines Rose
              Sanchez Lallana Alli Phillips
              Giroud Defoe Ibrahimovic

              Jaku McAuley Luiz De Roon

              0 ITB & 2 FT

              Lallana & Defoe are top of the list to go. 15.3m to spend if I got rid of both. Who are the best replacements?

              1. KUNingas
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Why Lallana out? Almost scored last matchp

              2. MTPockets
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Problem is Lallana for who in that price bracket?

              3. You've got red on you.
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Worth shifting Alonso or Hazard of both for -4 for a couple of GWs? Could get Spurs def and mid.

                What do you think?

                1. KUNingas
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Not sure about Spurs def now when cb situation is what it is

                  1. Yellin' in my Ear
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Walker and Rose aren't really defenders though in the traditional sense

                2. Kiwivillan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Why are you asking this before Hazard plays? What if he scores big

                3. ianp1970
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  I'm thinking of Ake/Hazard/Defoe to Holgate/Alli/Kane for a -4

              4. mogadishu
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                G2G for next week?

                Heaton (Robinson)
                Alonso Coleman Brunt Cedric (Amat)
                Sanchez Pogba Lallana Phillips (Capoue)
                Ibra Kane (Barnes)

                1. KUNingas
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Yes G2G

              5. Js31
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Think I'm going to wildcard and go to 532 with big hitters at the back.

                1. KUNingas
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Ballsy

                2. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  That way madness lies

                3. Kiwivillan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  1 less to worry about

                4. Yellin' in my Ear
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Timing, see below

              6. FPL Maldini
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Phillips of Mirrallas?

                1. MTPockets
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Phillips

                  • KUNingas
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Phillips better value, Mirallas differential

                  • Yellin' in my Ear
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Phillips

                  • Demel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    Phillips

                2. Yellin' in my Ear
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  After mentioning it yesterday, decided to go for it so did my transfers last nighy, 5-3-2 is the way forward:
                  Heaton
                  Alonso, Bellerin, Baines, Coleman, Walker;
                  Sanchez, Alli, Eriksen;
                  Ibra, Costa

                  Pickford, Philips, Crouch, De Roon

                  1. MTPockets
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      I don't like it, but could be great.

                    • Js31
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      See for me, this looks absolutely solid! And still with plenty of options for the armband. It's so tempting because of amount of teams using wing backs and players like Brunt playing so attacking! I think I'm gonna do it too, it's fun! How much itb?

                      1. Yellin' in my Ear
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        0.5, I think it's worth the risk

                    • Wardinator
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      It's different I kinda like it, I'm toying with the idea of a 4-4-2 but not sure I'm brave enough to go one step further, good luck though!

                      1. Yellin' in my Ear
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Cheers

                  2. Atimis
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 3 months ago

                    What is your dream front 7 now ? I'm looking for some inspiration for my transfers !
                    Cheers all !

                    1. Dreams
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Sanchez, hazard, Alli, eriksen,
                      Ibra Kane kun

                      1. Atimis
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Only not sure about Hazard

                        1. Demel
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          KDB is the obvious alternative. I think everyone else (bar Sanchez who we all own) is a downgrade.

                    2. MTPockets
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Sanchez Alli Eriksen KDB
                        Costa Ibra Kane/Aguero

                      • Demel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Eriksen - Hazard - KDB - Sanchez
                        Aguero - Ibra - Kane

                        Simples...

                      • Old Guy
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Sanchez Alli Pedro KDB Antonio
                        Kane Ibrahimovic Lukaku

                    3. Dreams
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Should I keep coutinho or sell him? For whom?

                      1. FPL Maldini
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        I would keep until Hull at least

                      2. Kiwivillan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Let me guess you just bought him

                        1. Dreams
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          You are a genius. Please answer my question.

                          1. Kiwivillan
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 10 Years
                            7 years, 3 months ago

                            I'm probably going to do Baines>Coleman after 1 week. I'm no genius

                      3. Lukey27
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        sell Firmino/Lallana

                        1. Dreams
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          Cheers.

                      4. TooDifficuIt
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        i would keep for now and wait the cup match

                        1. Dreams
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          Cheers.

                      5. Blue&White85
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Keep. Think by the next time he plays in league he'll be fitter. Plus with Hull coming up its best to hold a few weeks.

                    4. FPL Maldini
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Phillips or Mirrallas?

                      1. Dreams
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Philips

                    5. FPL Maldini
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Are we still convinced that Baines is on penalties over Lukaku?

                      1. Kiwivillan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Yes but I still should've got Coleman like I planned

                        1. FPL Maldini
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          Easy to say in hindsight when he scores

                          1. Demel
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 3 months ago

                            Exactly. Baines has also scored plenty of points in the last few weeks. I nearly doubled up with them at the back but in the end went with the cheaper West Brom double up.

                      2. Sailboats
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        yes

                    6. Jet5605
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Hey guys, some help would be appreciated. 2 FT and 0.8 ITB

                      A - Costa > Kane
                      B - Costa > Lukaku
                      C - Costa > Carroll
                      D - Other?

                      B & C mean I can upgrade Holebas & Amat > McAuley & Jones whereas Option A leaves me skint. C would also allow me to upgrade Lallana > Alli

                      Heaton - Pickford
                      Pieters - Holebas - Amat - Williams - Brunt
                      Lallana - Eriksen - Phillips - Stanislas - Sanchez
                      Ibra - Giroud - Costa

                      1. Demel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Not C!

                        The defence is a bit of a mess but you can probably sort that by having 2 very cheap players and 3 mid priced ones.

                        I would shift Holebas and Williams for Baines/Coleman and McCauley.

                        1. Jet5605
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          I'm 0.1 short for what you have suggested. How about Williams & Holebas > McAuley and Jones and look to get Coleman later on after freeing up some cash elsewhere?

                          Also, need to wait and see what happens with Costa and Giroud today

                    7. FPL Maldini
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Zlatan

                      Sanchez

                      Kane

                      Who on earth do you choose as captain next week haha

                      1. Lukey27
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Sanchez

                      2. Demel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Zlatan or Kun for me at the moment.

                      3. Dreams
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        If Chelsea thrash hull today, I would probably go ibra. Otherwise Harry.

                      4. Clifford☯
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Zlatan.

                      5. Sailboats
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        ibra

                    8. Triple C
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 3 months ago

                      Who is best to get in for the next few weeks (all having nice fixtures):

                      A) Williams
                      B) Brunt
                      C) Phil Jones
                      D) Holgate

                      1. Demel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        Simple. B.

                      2. MTPockets
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          b

                      3. LewanGOALski
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 3 months ago

                        I am not happy with Mkhitaryan in my team. I wanna get rid.

                        Although he has Hull at home in the next GW so tempted to wait 1 more week - should I..?

                        1. Demel
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 3 months ago

                          Losing him before Hull at home doesn't sound wide. He could be a great differential for that game.