Technical Area

The Technical Area- Rooney Drops Deeper at Everton

The 6-1 home hammering at the hands of Man City has clearly had an effect. Humbled in front of their own fans, with Sir Alex Ferguson describing it as the “worst result in my history”, United’s line-up for last weekend’s trip to Goodison raised more than a few eyebrows.

The role assigned to Wayne Rooney will have many a Fantasy manager fretting. With Fergie seeking extra solidity, Rooney dropped into central midfield, allowing Javier Hernandez to lead the line as the lone frontman but, ahead of a favourable run of fixtures, it’s the last thing his Fantasy owners want to contemplate. Tonight’s Champions League line-up against Otelul Galati will only further deepen the concern, with Rooney once again selected in the United midfield, with Michael Owen and Dimitar Berbatov leading the line. We take a look at Rooney’s last two league games to see just how they differ:

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A look at Rooney’s average position in the City game (above) shows Rooney’s (10) tendency to drop deep, even when United play 4-4-2. With City so much in control, though, Danny Welbeck (19) was also deep- both Ashley Young (18) and Nani (17) stayed high and wide and with a far from compact shape, United were torn apart by their clinical opponents.

The Everton match (above) shows Rooney was, on average, in an almost identical position when in possession, despite his new midfield role. The main difference, though, is how this compares in relation to the team mates around him. There is no width, no players further forward- Hernandez (14) dropped deep when on the ball and is obscured by Rooney (10) here. United’s defence-minded outlook offered little ahead of Rooney for him to make any significant attacking contribution.

Passing

Against City, Rooney made a total of 57 passes. A look at the chalkboard again shows how he came deep to link with the midfield, with 47% of all passes coming in the middle of the central third of the pitch. Remarkably, this is almost identical to the Everton match; here, Rooney also makes 57 passes, with 49% coming in the same area.

It’s when you look at the other areas of the field that the difference is more substantial; against City, for example, 28% of Rooney’s passes were from positions on the flank. With Young and Nani providing plenty width, he had far less a tendency to move from the centre in comparison to his display at Goodison- 38% of his distribution came from the wings against David Moyes’ side as he sought space in order to make an impact.

The most significant area for Rooney, though, the centre of the final third, shows a definite decrease in attacking potential over the two games. Against City, 22% (13% + 4% + 5%) of Rooney’s passes came in this vital area as he prompted and probed, looking for openings- against Everton, Rooney’s impact in this crucial part of the field halved, down to 11% (7% +4%). With Fergie reining in his star forward’s attacking sensibilities, their potency clearly diminished.

A look at United’s preferred passing in each game is also instructive. Against City, Rooney received 15 passes from Welbeck- the most balls from any team mate- and played 6 passes to his fellow-forward- a total of 21 passes between the United frontmen.

In the Goodison game, though, it was a different matter; Rooney received more passes (7) from Jonny Evans than any other United player, with Phil Jones and Patrice Evra next best on 6; an indication of how deep he dropped to gain possession at times. Ahead of him, Rooney barely linked up with Hernandez at all; he played just 2 successful passes to the Mexican, receiving 3 in return. Compare that to the interplay with Welbeck against City, and there’s a definite drop in attacking intent.

Match Stats

Post-match, Fergie explained the thinking behind his decision to move Rooney back:

It’s about time we won 1-0. That was the aspect of the game that pleased me most, that and restricting Everton to very few chances. We had to do something about the fact that opponents have been getting too many opportunities to score against us in recent weeks. We knew we had to reduce that number if we are going to win the league, and reinforcing the midfield was one way of doing it. We brought Wayne back to increase our numbers in midfield.

Perhaps a look at the statistics will make the United boss think twice, though. In no way did his side restrict Everton’s chances: over the season so far, they have averaged 19 shots against per game- on Saturday, Everton fired in 19 goal attempts again. If anything, his tactics only had a detrimental effect on his own side’s endeavors going forward- United have averaged 16 shots per game so far this season, whereas at Goodison last weekend, they mustered 7 all game.

Indeed, David De Gea saved more shots (8) than United managed over the entire ninety minutes. From a central midfield position, Rooney had just 1 shot against his old club- not what you’d want from a 12.2 Fantasy prospect, particularly with the likes of Robin Van Persie tearing up the top-flight right now.

Clearly, Fergie holds no fears of utilising Rooney in a different role if he feels it’s beneficial to the team as a whole- a spell out wide a couple of seasons back proves testament to that. The uncertainty has clearly had an effect- so far, Rooney has been sold on by 72,000 Fantasy managers this week, despite a home clash with Sunderland up next. Tonight’s performance will give his 41% of Fantasy owners plenty to mull over- another game from deep without any attacking rewards could cause many to rethink over the forthcoming international break.

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  1. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is it just me or does the BBC live football updates make way too many mistakes, get the impression the guy doing it just gets pissed while updating the scores and scorers. Currently giving the city goal to Balotelli while conversely quoting the BBC Radio 5 on it being Toure. Impressive.

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    1. Shipstontrev
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      You have a point. I was watching the updates in the game where Kompany scored an own goal, they showed it as a goal for City. My delight at what I thoght was 8 points turned to disappointment when the mistake was corrected and to anger at the moron who made the mistake!!

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      1. Menly
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        12 years, 7 months ago

        Oh yeah me too I even called my friend in joy

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    2. Tim Canterbury
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      yes! i've noticed too. Scores are often wrong as well as goal scorers. Seems strange

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    3. Gargamel
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      Let me recommend http://www.flashscore.com for you. Great great site - shows assists too.

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      1. Tim Canterbury
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        oh, bbc are good on assists tho i must say. they always state it and it always seems to tie in with fpl

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  2. Binman_UK
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Given
    Brown Simpson Wilkinson
    Petrov VDV Silva Nani
    RVP(c) Sturridge Suarez(v)

    Bench: Vorm Moses Kompany Senderos
    Bank: £0.0m

    Need to sort my team out for this week. I'm happy with my strikeforce but Petrov needs to go and I've got Senderos not playing / Kompany suspended and difficult fixtures after Newcastle game / Brown facing Man Utd this week.

    Any ideas? Was thing thinking of..

    Kompany --> J Evans
    Petrov --> Walters

    4 point hit.

    Thoughts?

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  3. Le Bluff
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Rooney dropping tonight, and Van Persie set to rise. With Rooney playing CM again, I’m not taking any chances on him.

    Rooney > RvP

    Possibly get Rooney back in for Suarez after the int. break.

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    1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      If he plays as an actual striker against Sunderland then I might see if I can cram him in for United's good fixtures.

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    2. Tim Canterbury
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      I hate to say it but united look better with rooney in this position. he is a great goal scorer but hes taking one for the team and utd look a lot more solid. I can't see fergie employing this strategy and then reverting straight back to playing him as a striker at the weekend. This looks like a long term plan. Really doesnt bode well for rooney as a fpl player. makes life easier for us. just keep rvp & aguero in for now. no need to sweat over it

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  4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    What I really need now is for Ozil to do something!

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    1. O Fenomeno
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      He is very involved in their forward play, I think Madrid will get a few more goals.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        🙂 Please, please, me!

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  5. Park the bus
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    So it's that time of the week again.

    Team is as follows:

    Given (Ruddy)
    Enrique Simpson Shawcross NTaylor Kompany
    Sinclair VDV Silva Ramsey (Moses)
    Ade Aguero Suarez (C)

    Have 0.6 in the bank.

    Key dilemmas are in defence. Shawcross & Kompany could be out, really want Phil Jones in but concerned about potential rotation, espec as he is also playing tonight.

    Only 1 rival out of a mini league of 24 has RVP (the leader), is it worth a hit to bring him in? If so, who else to make for and for whom?

    Without doubt the most clueless I have been all season about a transfer! Surely I have to make one?

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    1. threeputt
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      i have the same concern and thoughts with shawcross to Jones, seems whoever I bring into defence gets injured, ie gibbs to smalling to shawcross. might be thinking assou-ekotto instead who is cheaper and good fixtures
      RVP still has a good run ahead and almost certain to start at the weekend having been rested last night with good fixtures

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  6. Corrigan
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Off topic, but GTA V looks sensational.

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    1. Bartowski
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Try to contain yourself, it won't be about for another year

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  7. Fancy Feet
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Rooney is making no effort to get forward,he is helping out more in def than attk

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  8. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    If the Kone's Hotline scores now, I will be madder than a wet hen!!!

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  9. JapBen
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Jones is playing really well, getting forward, getting the assist, getting shots on target. Thinking Bos to Jones is a much better move than Bos to Evans despite having to pay 1.5M more........

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      damn right

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      1. JapBen
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        He's looking more likely than Rooney to score or get an assist!!

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  10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Gomez Hattrick!!!

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  11. O Fenomeno
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    Gomez hat trick.

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    1. Johnny Unitas
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sweet, my Messi(C)//Gomez//Ibra front line is killing it in UCL

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Wow, nice strike-force.

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      2. Anorak
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Eurgh. 😉

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  12. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Doumbia is pissing me off!

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    1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I have Zengin in goal tonight so am happy you're pissed 😉

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  13. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Its just occured to me that I have a Metro fantasy team, can't bear to bring myself to look at it.

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Great story.

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      1. Bartowski
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Sorry thought this was the young writers forum, got confused, but thanks for your feedback none the less.*

        *Good Sarcasm.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I think I have one too. In fact I've got several unchecked ones set up with the likes of Zog and Tabrat during FPL-Gate.

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  14. Tangerine Army XI
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Penalty City

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  15. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    No second assist for Kroos??? 🙁

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    1. Johnny Unitas
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      The assist rules are different in UCL, don't think there is an assist for a deflected shot which results in a goal, just as there isn't an assist when a player passes to another player who then beats a player to score, kind of annoying, but thems are the rules!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        OK, Johnny U. Bother!

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  16. Corrigan
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Let's face it Rooney (pens aside) has hardly been looking dangerous in his forward role. A deeper position just makes the switch to RVP and/or Aguero much easier.

    Fixtures aren't incredible and you wouldn't captain him at the moment.

    As the saying goes: ''better to be a week late than 10 weeks too early''.

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You seem to have a different fixture list to me...

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      1. Corrigan
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        They're very good, but RVP's are better. The likes of Sun, Newc and Swan are very tough to break down.

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    2. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Im surprised rooneys ownership hasnt dropped quicker still at 41 %

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Must be the one week players who haven't looked at their team since August.

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    3. Le Bluff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Have just made the Rooney > RVP move myself. Can't bear to see Rooney's price drop, and RVP's to rise. Plus the latter is in sensational form while Rooney is mediocre at best atm!

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  17. Tangerine Army XI
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    2-0

    Balo (pen)

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    1. Waldaz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      #whyalwayshim

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  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Balotelli, applebonkers ... !

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  19. O Fenomeno
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Did City miss a pen??

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    1. Bartowski
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No you missed a goal

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  20. Guy
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Assist fot Napoli's goal? Or for Gomez's hat-trick goal?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lavezzi. Should be Kroos ...

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    2. O Fenomeno
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lavezzi for Napoli goal.

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      1. Guy
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        12 years, 7 months ago

        Hmm, cheers both. Hoping Kroos gets the second too!

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  21. tosey
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    get in

    balotelli anytime scorer
    man city to win

    looking good

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    1. Back on the horse
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      nice. how much you on for winning

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      1. tosey
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        had 40 on balo 13/8 and 50 on city at 4/6

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        1. Tangerine Army XI
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          12 years, 7 months ago

          Awful bet.

          £90 to make £98.33 profit?

          You needed two events to happen to just double your money?

          If City had won but Balo didn't score you'd have made a loss!

          Congrats anyway 🙂

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          1. tosey
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            or you could look at it the other way in that i had a good chance of winning one to cover most of my money (which was winnings from laying west ham last night at 2/5) so wouldnt have been the end of the world if id got about 75 from the 90 staked

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            1. Tangerine Army XI
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              or a 0-0 could have seen you lose it all!

              I like to see someone win, but when a Balotelli win cast was probably around 2/1 - 5/2, I just think you could have won a lot more.

              Fair play though, I'm not knocking you. Heck, my footie bets look shamolic tonight!

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      spam

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    3. IceMan DB
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Well done sir! 🙂

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  22. Tommytour
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Please Roberto take off David and Mario around 60 mins now 2 up!

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  23. Andy
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I wish Man City would get a penalty with Aguero on the pitch.

    Actually, get two - one with Balotelli on the park too and one without. I don't think he'll be on them to be fair, but I'd really like to know all the same.

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    1. O Fenomeno
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Balotelli will definitely take any penalty he is on the pitch for.

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      1. Andy
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I agree with this - however we've had precisely nothing to physically prove it.

        Every City penalty has been with Aguero off the pitch, I'd like to know if he's ahead of the likes of Barry and Milner (even Nasri) though.

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        1. O Fenomeno
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Oh sorry, yeah that would be good to know. Was Aguero a penalty taker in Spain? They have a lot of candidates, I would think Barry would be high on the list.

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    2. Tangerine Army XI
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      +1

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  24. O Fenomeno
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    I will be a rich man if City can keep this result.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Buy me a bloody drink then! 😉

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Are you coming on to me? 😉

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          😆 I will if you buy me a drink! 😉

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          1. threeputt
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            easily pleased 😉

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  25. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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    Actually want Man City to win, but not through cheating. What's ridiculous is Refs get criticised for giving penalties like that, but what retribution is there for the player? How hard is to award divers with a 3 match ban? Didn't they do it with Arsenals Eduardo a couple of years ago? Haven't seen them do it since.

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      bullshit

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      1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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        And it doesn't help when the teams fans pretend to be so obvlivious to their own players doing it.

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          it was a soft peno but fair nonetheless

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          1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            I disagree. Of course there is often a fine line between 'soft' and 'dive', but for me that one was a dive, theres no way a slight hand on the back could have sent him down like that, and there was no other contact.

            It's a very common type of penalty given these days because players know they can get away with dropping to the floor at the slightest contact and, unbelievably, getting the penalty. That the FA etc aren't doing anything about diving is the most frustrating thing.

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Dont understand it either, it would be one way to make the situation better. The diving is totally out of control.

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  26. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Surprised Downing has had no goals or assists so far this season, normally reliable for a few at least.

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    1. Le Bluff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Good point. I had him gwk 1 but he never materialised! A real let-down this season so far.

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  27. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Should I do Rooney to Aguero? Already have RVP, Nani, and Silva for reference. Rooney price going down, but his fixtures are much better than Aguero's. I also think the deep role will be a rare thing.

    I don't know.......just don't think I can get rid.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I am holding on, if it helps.

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I dont have Rooney although my long term plan as of a few weeks ago was to move for him soon. I made an early move to RVP instead and I already have Aguero. I am still keeping my options open re. bring Rooney in. If I already owned him I think I would hold. Great run of fixtures ahead, he will definitely get forward and it is also possible Aguero could get a rest after break(thought I am hoping not) Big vague but I hope it helps

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  28. Back on the horse
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    ooo O'Neil laying into Villareal

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    1. Cruicky
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Bit harsh but understandable. They've been rubbish, don't look like scoring and look like the away team.

      They are without 8 first team players - injured or ill.

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  29. Demí
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wish Shaqiri would carry his u21 form in the European championships into the 2nd half of tonight's match

    Could do with some big points from him, even though he is cheap as chips.

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  30. 7923dos
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Struggling to make a decision

    One free transfer left this week

    A ) NTaylor > J Evans this week, Tiote/Suarez > Drenthe + 8.5m ish striker next week, 4 point hit
    B) Or miss out the J Evans transfer, do the other two next week and avoid the 4 point hit?

    Thanks!

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