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Versus – Rooney and Van Persie

As Man United approach an eye-catching run of games which could potentially see Sir Alex Ferguson’s side rack up the Fantasy returns, Wayne Rooney has staked a strong claim for consideration after bagging a brace for the second Gameweek in succession. Rooney’s stock has suffered a significant drop this season due to the arrival of Robin Van Persie but as the campaign unfolds, he’s starting to look a real differential, with many Fantasy managers even considering both forwards for a run of games which sees the Red Devils welcome Sunderland, Newcastle and West Brom to Old Trafford, in addition to trips to Swansea and Wigan in the next five:

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  1. rvp786
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    bale/silva and berba

    vs

    snodgrass/punchoen and ageuro

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    1. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      A with Bale

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    2. Something Clever
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      The former, easily.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Bale and Berba

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      1. rvp786
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        A is the obvious choice aint it. so its better to have an extra big hitter in midfield rather than 3 big hitting strikers.

        just tempted to captain ageuro vs reading in two games though as my main rival will and hes 63pts behind

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    4. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Bale and Berba.

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    5. Doolittle
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Bale and Berba hands down.

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      1. rvp786
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        DOOLITTLE - still hanging on to baines? 2 hard fixtures. my knees are jerking to take him out to free funds lol

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  2. faux_C
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Benchwarmer face off:

    Gibbs (rdg)

    or

    Riise (qpr)

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    1. सनकी
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Heh?

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    2. JT's Dog
        11 years, 4 months ago

        who to put on bench?

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        1. faux_C
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Indeed.

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          1. JT's Dog
              11 years, 4 months ago

              eeek em riise, side point but it says he hasnt scored since liverpool days, like 24 years ago.

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      • सनकी
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        How nailed on is Nastasic?

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        1. Home Run Baker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Quite

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        2. JT's Dog
            11 years, 4 months ago

            lescott is fit and he is still gettign picked ovr him, so only has to fight with bad toure brother. For me at that price into city defence worht it for odd rotation. Just wish he would get involved more at corners.

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            1. JT's Dog
                11 years, 4 months ago

                *too much coffee makes me keyboard skills deteriorate, detariarate, deterearate, ,get poor

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              • सनकी
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                How is not play is worth it ? You can get Gibbs which is nailed on for that price.

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                1. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    gibbs plays for a team that you can't predict when they will get CS or let in 2 or 3. nasti plays for city, i think 4 CS in last 5 or something like that. Plus missing means prob 1 game at worst. so for me 5.5 and in city defence is good shout.

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              • Scroobius Mac
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                11 years, 4 months ago

                Should play 5/6 gamesish.

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              • athleticbilbobaggins
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                He is the preferred CB option alongside Kompany. But could get rotated during the busy Christmas schedule. However if Kompany is injured, then he is first choice.

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                1. Scroobius Mac
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Kompany's fine.

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                  1. rvp786
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    how do you know kompany is fine? he went off after 20mins so he must be out for at least a week or two no??

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                    1. Billy Gilmore
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      http://t.co/LCdocxNi

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                  2. JT's Dog
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      thanks mate, i like talking to you here also. aw shucks

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                    • athleticbilbobaggins
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Oh, thought he was injured for the short term. Sorry for wrong information, then. Thanks

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              • GoonerByron
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                Best defender from now until January out of Nastasic and Caulker? Currently going with Caulker due to their slightly better fixtures...

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                1. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    what about slightly inability to keep a CS?

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                    1. Scroobius Mac
                      • 13 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      That doesn't matter 😉

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                  • सनकी
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I dont trust Spurs' defence and im a fan. Therefore nasta

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                  • faux_C
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I just had this exact dilemma and went for Caulker. I don't trust Spurs to keep cleanies, but I don't trust Mancini's rotation.

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                2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  In all seriousness I hope rvp/rooney is a main topic in the scout cast this week. It's certainly an interesting puzzler 🙂

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                3. Spencer
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  If both are fit, then who would you prefer.

                  A. Bale
                  B. Walcott

                  I have no other Spurs or Arsenal players.

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                  1. सनकी
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Bale

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                  2. isacki: full casual
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Pretty much a draw if Walcott was guaranteed to play, but luckily he isn't.

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                  3. Doolittle
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Bale.

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                  4. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Bale

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                    1. Spencer
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                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Thanks guys. That's pretty conclusive!

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                4. isacki: full casual
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Which player do you reckon is top for benched points?

                  Sterling
                  Clyne
                  Gorkss
                  Begovic
                  Demel...

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                  1. faux_C
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I **keep** benching Begovic and watching him get 8+ points. It's irritating. Makes me dislike Stoke even more.

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      This is why Beg/Foster "rotation" is so good 😆

                      Nothing like an injured player to make your mind up.

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                      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        +1

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                      2. shegull
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        +100000

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                    2. rvp786
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      begovic
                      clyne
                      sterling

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                  2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Noble as well perhaps? Bego has definitely screwed alot of people, almost worth having a non-starting 2nd keeper to save the trouble of leaving him out.

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Ta-dahhhh!

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                      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        🙂

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                  3. athleticbilbobaggins
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Clyne maybe.

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                  4. Doolittle
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I don't think I'm ever going to bench Begovic again, every time I do I get burnt. Thankfully, I learnt this lesson last week.

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                  5. Spencer
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                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Begovic.

                    Stoke away from home are guaranteed to concede at least one goal!

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                  6. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Sterling is averaging 4.89ppg for me 😎

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      How do you choose when to play him!!!

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                      1. athleticbilbobaggins
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        It should be, "Please tell us when you decide to play him." 😛

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                        1. isacki: full casual
                          • 12 Years
                          11 years, 4 months ago

                          Ok deal, I'll tell you when I decide to play him so you can bench him.

                          If there's a contradiction, flip a coin!

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                      2. Billy Gilmore
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        I have been rotating him with Lallana for the last 10 GWs or so. I've only benched him twice 😯

                        Unreal, me and a few others were discussing it in the wee hours of this morning.

                        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/12/10/the-stock-check-monday-3/comment-page-9/#comment-4552125

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                  7. shegull
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Clyne for me

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                5. cruzex
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Pierce or Gorkss? Who will play tonight?????

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                  1. Messi & fabregas
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    hopefully pearce

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                  2. Absinthe Minded
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    fingers crossed for pierce!!!

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                  3. सनकी
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Pearce for sure

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                6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Where a minion lays, quail are.

                  Chinese Proverb

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                  1. Deano
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Wuan Hung Lo?

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                7. Tiki-Taka
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  According to FPL flag Walcott is expected to be back for next GW, away at Reading. Is this correct? Still got him in my team and considering getting rid if he won't feature next GW.

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                8. Deano
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Alright gents and gals, this is my current team with 2 FT and £2.6 in the kitty:

                  Al-Habsi (Ruddy)
                  Rafael, Enrique, Wilkinson (Cueller, Demel)
                  Cazorla, Michu, Fellaini, Sterling (Puncheon)
                  RVP, Tevez, Fletcher

                  Am thinking a DEF downgrade to up Fletch to Suarez. All thoughts will be much appreciated.

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                9. Darth Paul
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Re RVP v Rooney, if both were the same price, who would you rather have?

                  I guess my question is whether the current trend for suggesting that Rooney is the better buy based on him being:

                  1. better value for money

                  2. likely to score more points overall

                  3. both better value and likely to score more points?

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                  1. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    1

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                  2. Kostja
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I think its hard to tell. Given that rooney takes pens I feel they will score a similar amount of points over the remainder of the season. Currently rooneys edge is- more of a differ, better value for cash.

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                  3. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    3....but only maybe score more points, I can't see there being much in it...I do think Rooney is now less likely to disappear into midfield with the return of Kagawa..and if other midfield options remain fit at UTD...

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                  4. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    May I also add that point 2 is irrelevant as he is cheaper and scores more points then he has to be better value 🙂

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                10. athleticbilbobaggins
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  So, are people having both RVP and Rooney saying that they will be the top two scoring strikers over the next few weeks?

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                  1. Kostja
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Could be up to Jan, United have good fixtures and score the most goals by far.

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                  2. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I think RVP, Rooney and Suarez will be the top 3 scoring strikers until the Jan WC when it can be reassessed. Aguero may be up there but he has virtually no form and will be rotated more imo.

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                11. shegull
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  quick poll:
                  A)Cuellar -> Vidic
                  B)Cuellar -> Rafael
                  C)Cuellar -> Nastasic
                  D) ???

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                12. isacki: full casual
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  I really hope Foster doesn't return this week so I'm not tempted to bench begovic 😉

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                  1. rvp786
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    iv solved the begovic dilemma. brought in bunn. cheap as chips and play begovic every week. spend the 1m elsewhere

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      If I had s free transfer I would do this. Could be a wc plan.

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                13. GRIMANDI [formerly boring M…
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Rooney is not as good a player as RVP. I cant see how Rooney can outscore him.
                  If your having a quarter pounder meal you go large for 30p extra right

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                  1. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Rooney is the best player in the prem (sadly)...he has proved this season that he can play anywhere, he must be a managers dream come true..

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                  2. JJO
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    What are u talking?RVP better than Rooney,have u ever watched them playing?
                    Rooney is 3 times better player,maybe not in fantasy terms,but u have to be idiot to say something like that

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                  3. Kostja
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    2 mil cheaper takes pens. so its not that clear cut

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                  4. 1966 was a great year for E…
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    If Utd HAD to sell one of them, I'd rather lose RVP than Rooney.

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                    1. JJO
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      At last some reason..cant believe people talking about Persi like he is the best player in PL history,just because he had 1 great season in Arsenal where he was a centar of the team,in every action he had to touch the ball and everybody had to work for him to score

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                      1. JJO
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        And they all love RVP because he delievered them 200 points in fantasy game,and not even watched half of Arsenal games last season

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                14. ZaKNaFeiN
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Thoughts on the Norwich mids:

                  Snodgrass, Pilkington, Johnson and Hoolahan all seem to share the points between them, so is the argument then to get the cheapest one?

                  Who plays the most up front and has the lion's share of FK, corners and PKs?

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                15. Damo.
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  It's nice to be reminded why I stopped coming on. Thought things might have changed a bit but it's still the same tripe being spouted. Can't enjoy a transfer without rent-a-degree's obligatory 20million posts about the matter.

                  The fact is only a fool wouldn't want 2 attackers from the most free scoring team in the league with the run of fixtures they have. If those two happen to both play up front so be it. Utd or gonna score goals, lots of em. They're going to be involved in the majority, either on there own or, please god, together. What's not too like. It may not work out but at the moment it seems like a no brainer to me.

                  Anyway. I'm outta here.

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                  1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Chill dude, plenty agree with you but we all have to make our own calls 🙂

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                  2. Something Clever
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I like how you make 'enjoy a transfer' sound like a nice glass of wine or cup of tea or something.

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                  3. isacki: full casual
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    😉 stay strong. We're in this together.

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                  4. 1966 was a great year for E…
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I know what you mean, but is it worth factoring in possible postponements due to weather? If a Utd game gets cancelled, you're f**ked!

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                16. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Anyone been watching Full English on Channel 4 (UK)? Animated comedy and it's pretty funny 🙂

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                17. GoonerByron
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Looks like Gorkss will miss out again tonight, damn all you people with Gorkss playing and Clyne/Nelsen 1st sub!

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                  1. ZaKNaFeiN
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Dont toy with me, that's awesome news!

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                    1. GoonerByron
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Pearce to start alongside Mariappa

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                18. Golden Oldies
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  4 points hit to do Fletcher and Gunter to Suarez and Caulker....yea or nay?????????

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                  1. Playing A Blinder
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I would. Caulker could stop playing soon though, maybe someone else instead.

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                    1. Golden Oldies
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Oh yeah? Who's he at risk from? Cheers

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                19. Mindless Freak
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Chances of Gunter playing got Clyne 2nd sub? Also chances on le fondre starting his my (C)?

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                  1. GoonerByron
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Gunter won't start, Cummings to start RB.

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                20. UnitednationsXI
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Begovic (Mannone)
                  Rafael Enrique demel (Davies Cuellar)
                  Michu Fellani cazorla sterling (sess)
                  Rvp berg fletch

                  Have 1ft and 4m.....what should I do??? Enrique and demel both potentially injured:(..my back up keeper doesn't play and I need to get rid of fletch...

                  Pls help

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                21. Sarri-ball
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Stuck on swap or do both for a hit.

                  Ba-Suarez

                  Or

                  Giroud-Defoe

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                22. jpdyolf
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  What us a 'Groan injury' by the way?
                  http://t.co/LCdocxNi

                  Isn't that what Fergy gets every week.

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                23. isacki: full casual
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  It is possible that RVP had a nice run earlier in the season because Rooney was out so he was the undisputed goalscorer. Maybe we're stuck to mainly single figure returns now.

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                  1. Drip Doctor
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    He had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Reading and a perfectly good assist ruled out against City. Both would have given him double figure scores.

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Perhaps got a bit too specific there, basically, in general he may not hit quite the same heights he did last year. Plus he's more expensive. He was undisputed #1 striker at arsenal. He isn't at united, Rooney and Hernandez are both breathing down his neck.

                      Put it this way, if Aguero starts knocking them in for city, nailed on, Rooney and Aguero are looking like my heavy hitters.

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                      1. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        Suarez, Defoe/Torres and Aguero is what i'm considering if that happens. Fergie likes 1-0 wins anyway

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                        1. isacki: full casual
                          • 12 Years
                          11 years, 4 months ago

                          Heck, yeah, Suarez and Aguero. Unrivaled for involvement

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                  2. Billy Gilmore
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    A goal a game is fine by me. 38 goals a season.... 🙂

                    Tbf he's been very unlucky recently. Goal across the line not given etc...

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                    1. Something Clever
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Hit post against city too...

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                      1. Balotellitubbies
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        Was an assist

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                  3. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Rooney + RVP = Rooney more points

                    Rooney + Kag + RVp = RVP more points

                    People seem to be forgeting the second scenario

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Foster
                      Mertesacker, O’Brien, Gallas
                      Michu, Santi Cazorla, Sidwell, Fellaini
                      Van Persie(c), Rooney, Defoe(vc)

                      Subs: Begovic; Shorey, Sessegnon, Cuellar

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                      1. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        Not you too. Although i forgve you a little as you cant get Suarez

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                        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          • 14 Years
                          11 years, 4 months ago

                          Thank you! 😀

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                    2. Dr Dream
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      yeah and he's only 7.9 now...may be the best midfield buy of the season along with Michu...or not as the case may be..

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                      1. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        I never said Kags was an fpl prospect. Just his influence result in more points for RVP. Whole different concept

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                        1. LÖrKingMuch
                          • 13 Years
                          11 years, 4 months ago

                          He's on my radar though should he get regular starts once back.

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                  4. Reedy
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Every season Rooney seems to punish me for not selecting him. I think he's starting to do it again. Oh, and selling RVP was just plain stupid of me...

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                  5. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    When is Giroud going to pull his finger put and give us a decent alternative to Rooney, rvp and Suarez?!

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                    1. isacki: full casual
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Ask Wenger...

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                    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      Not this week, sadly ... 🙁

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                  6. the Penman
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    This is why I ditched him for Suarez and a better balanced midfield. He just won't be in the lion's share of points - especially now with Rooney firing on all cylinders - amongst the 4 Utd strikers and attacking mids (and Rafael) like he was at Arsenal.

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                24. Playing A Blinder
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  My Team:
                  Jaaskelainen - Mignolet
                  Rafael - Ridgewell - Cameron - Garrido - Shorey
                  Cazorla - Michu - Fellaini - Ramirez - Sterling
                  RVP - Suarez - Berba

                  Thoughts?

                  Also can anyone remind me how to change my link? Want to change it to my team but it's on my football blog at the moment. Forgotten how.

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                25. Reedy
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Well, I'm two transfers away from total STO/WBA defensive rotation, three from each team.

                  And I already have three City players in my front eight.

                  So I'm starting to gather many eggs among very few baskets. Going to regret this, aren't I? 🙂

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Disaster. Imho.

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                    1. Reedy
                      • 13 Years
                      11 years, 4 months ago

                      +42

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                      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 4 months ago

                        😀

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                  2. Xhaka Kahn't
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    Yep

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                26. Deano
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Fletcher in

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                27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  Old Git's music ... : 😉

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XOd6Uajh-4

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                  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 4 months ago

                    I love the Zombies Doos, and I'm only a young 'un 😉

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