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Scout Report – Roberto Soldado

While the media spotlight continues to shine firmly on a certain Welshman, Andre Villas-Boas has added to the Tottenham ranks with the acquisition of Roberto Soldado from Spanish outfit Valencia. Having passed a medical, the 28-year-old arrives at White Hart Lane for a club-record fee of around £26m and is the third player to sign up this summer, following Paulinho and Nacer Chadli to the club.

The History

A product of the Real Madrid youth academy, Soldado – in a similar situation to Chelsea’s Juan Mata – was rarely given a chance to establish himself as a regular at the Bernabeu. His career began back in 2002, where over the period of four seasons playing for Madrid’s “B” team Castilla, he notched 64 goals in 120 league matches. Farmed out on loan to Osasuna in 2006, Soldado produced 11 goals in 30 appearances but returned to his parent club once again the following year and, by the time he left for Getafe in 2008/09 for a mere €4m, had been handed a mere 16 first-team appearances by Madrid, finding the net on a couple of occasions.

With regular game time under his belt, Soldado quickly set about becoming one of the most lethal marksmen in the Spanish top-flight. Over two seasons at Getafe, he notched 29 goals and four assists in 60 matches, despite 11 of those appearances arriving from the bench – his exploits caught the eye of Valencia, with the club snapping him up as a €10m replacement for David Villa.

Soldado’s three-year tenure at the Mestalla was a hugely successful period as he demonstrated a consistency of scoring which is sure to make him a Fantasy favourite. His first term, back in 2010/11, harvested 18 goals and three assists from 34 matches, while the following year saw him produce 17 goals and three assists in 32 appearances. His final season in La Liga turned out to be Soldado’s most prolific, though, with 24 strikes and four assists from 35 league games highlighting his attacking potential. From a disciplinary point of view, he did have a penchant for picking up yellow cards, however, earning 49 cautions over the previous five domestic campaigns.

On the international stage, Soldado has represented his country at every youth level from Under 15 to Under 21, scoring 25 times in 41 appearances, and has also turned out for the senior side on 11 occasions, with six goals to his name.

The Prospects

A classic style centre-forward, the five foot eleven Soldado is adept with both feet, strong in the air and possesses a mobility and intelligence of movement which is always able to buy him a yard or two breathing space against the most diligent of man-markers. Being a penalty-box-predator-type, he rarely drops deep, though, and has a tendency to play on the shoulder of the final defender, utilising a decent turn of pace to gain an advantage.

If he brings his La Liga form to the table, the Spaniard’s arrival at White Hart Lane looks set to give Fantasy managers a bona fide frontline option in the season ahead, with the chances of spot-kick duties also looking likely. Villas-Boas’ preferred lone striker system – whether it be a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 this time out – will surely see Soldado as the main man up front for the north London outfit, with Emmanuel Adebayor and Jermain Defoe likely to rely on game time from the bench as back-up.

While Gareth Bale’s heroics saved Tottenham time and again in 2012/13, Adebayor (25 games, five goals) and Defoe (34 games, 11 goals) were far from prolific, with the club a little too reliant on the Welshman’s talents from one Gameweek to the next. Soldado’s arrival is expected to remedy that and bearing in mind Adebayor and Defoe are priced at 8.0 and 8.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) respectively, a ceiling of 9.5 looks likely for the Premier League debutant.

Granted, if Bale stays, it’ll take a brave Fantasy manager to overlook the Welshman but an eye-catching run of opening fixtures will also bring Soldado immediately onto the Fantasy radar. Home games against Swansea, Norwich, West Ham and Hull, allied with trips to Palace, Cardiff and Villa in the opening nine Gameweeks, affords the Spaniard the perfect platform to get quickly off the mark, with his goal-getting ability likely to persuade many a Fantasy manager to scramble aboard the early-season bandwagon. Those who don’t subscribe to the notion of “coverage” could well be looking to double up should Bale remain, while those unwilling to invest in more than one premium player per side will surely turn to the new boy as their Tottenham attacking coverage if the Welshman does decide to depart these shores.

Further Reference

Roberto Soldado Wikipedia

Roberto Soldado Transfer Markt Page

Roberto Soldado YouTube 2012/13 Highlights

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4,351 Comments Post a Comment
  1. TexanRed
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I know its all just hearsay so far but if you had to bet your house on it where will the below be plying their trade when the transfer window slams shut?

    a) Suarez
    b) Rooney
    c) Bale

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    1. paddym25
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Liverpool, United & Spurs methinks.

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      1. TexanRed
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        You haven't paid to subscribe to the Sun's webpage then Paddy 🙂

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    2. MB10
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A) Not Liverpool
      B) Chelsea
      C) Real Madrid

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    3. Large Hardon Colluder
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Liverpool
      Chelsea
      Real Madrid

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    4. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Liverpool
      Port Vale
      Real Madrid

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    5. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      a) Arsenal
      b) Utd
      c) Madrid

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    6. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Arsenal
      Chelsea
      Madrid

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  2. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    BOOM

    Ruddy

    Toure Terry Collins

    Coutinho Walcott Hazard Mirallas

    Soldado* Bentekkers Lukaku

    Subs: Boruc,Mbwia,Thomas,Chester

    * Assuming he is less than 10

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      5/10

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Better luck next year

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        With players like Coutinho, i think you make a good point

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Why on earth are you picking Coutinho???

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          1. The Machine
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Flat track bully

            Should do well against Stoke and Villa

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    3. ★FC Borecelona★
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Meh

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    4. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      not great

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    5. Mojo Rojo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I like it! Best of luck mate 🙂

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    6. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Haha love the optimism, probably scared of me.

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yea ofc.

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Possibility i suppose. You do have a top notch FPL pedigree

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  3. Sangfroid
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Quest for the True Template

    Ok, I have refined my search to discover the 'true' template. This team amounts to exactly 100m. And going by ownership figures it is close to the most 'commonly assembled team' possible within the 100m budget. I thought this might interest people who have started to believe that the templates on here are actually what the common manager is going with. I have left out Bale. Let's just assume for the moment he joins Real.

    Mignolet Davis
    Mertesacker Baines Ivanovic Baker Whittaker
    Hazard Coutinho Snodgrass Wanyama Colback
    Van Persie Benteke Anelka

    As you can see, it is rather heavy on defence and has poor balance. Baker and Whittaker may not start. Colback may not start for Sunderland either if they sign a left back.

    Overall, I believe people are wasting their money and not focusing on good balance primarily.

    Van Persie being the most highly owned player is a testament to this. He is 14m, yet people still can't resist getting him. It just goes to show that people are greedy and only want expensive things they can show off to hide their insecurities.

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Your bit about RVP is absolute bollocks.

      Rest of the post is fairly interesting though.

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      1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Up voted the bollocks bit.

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      2. MB10
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Have to agree there

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      3. Sangfroid
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Absolute bollocks? I think you will find it is true about human nature. People would rather expensive things because it comes with a symbol of 'social status'

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        1. Kevin Twine
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Or you may find that people want to own him due to the fact he's the most reliable captaincy choice in the entire game.

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          1. Kevin Twine
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            And the only United coverage worth grttjng at this current moment in time.

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            1. Kevin Twine
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Oh, and he's an FPL god.

              P.S, RVP isn't in my GW1 draft 😉

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      4. simsey
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Ah now, the bit about Van Persie is hilarious!
        Maybe you're just insecure 🙂

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    2. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      very amusing and mostly true. Not sure about Baines, Benteke or Anelka... or Wanyama

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    3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      😯

      Wow, I'm insecure because I have RVP???

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'm insecure and I have RVP, I don't think the two are related though

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        1. Kevin Twine
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          😆

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    4. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      The masses have no clue... some of those are terrible picks

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      1. Sangfroid
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        But when you look at the figures, Baker and Colback are in 25% of teams. Baffling

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Exactly

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    5. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A non RVP onwer here

      You're talking crap.

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  4. Chimptastic
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Hmm I've decided to go for Rooney on the hope he does go to Chelsea in next week or so - shall change to Soldado or such if not and upgrade def slightly.

    Cech
    Coleman Azpil Brayford
    Silva Walcott Hazard (c) Mirallas
    Lambert Rooney (v) Giroud

    Subs: Davis, Barkley, Chester

    What you guys/girls think?

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    1. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Rooney won't leave until after gwk2

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  5. yer old da
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    A. Mirallas and Dzeko

    or

    B. Silva and Anelka?

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    1. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B but don't like either strikers, not nailed on

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  6. Albert Cole
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Silva and Baines
    or
    Walcott and Vertonghen?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Vert's out for the start..

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    2. PAFCStan
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Walcott and Vertonghen by some distance apart from the injury.

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    3. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      The former.

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    4. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      walcott, chelsea def and Coleman?

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    5. simsey
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Silva and Baines for me mate. I reckon Silva will repeat 2011-12 in this City team and Baines will be the highest scoring defender again and will outscore every other 7.5m player in the game...
      I'm still fiddling for a way to get him in my team

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  7. monsour20
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Hey I know this gets old but could you guys please RMT. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Stekelenburg

    Koscielny-Shaw-Kolarov-Ivanovic

    Jarvis-Mirallas-Hazard-Coutinho-Walcott

    Van Persie

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    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Different!

      Are you sure about Lolarov?

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      1. monsour20
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        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I am pretty sure Pelligrini has started Kolarov in every pre season game thus far...not sure though.

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        1. simsey
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I'm also pretty sure that youre not sure 🙂

          I like the team except your missing out by having only one Chelsea player for the DGW.

          Almost everyone else will have 3 from Chelsea and you'll be playing catchup....

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    2. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      need to see subs tbh. Also terrible formation you get the most points from fwds and attacking mids, so having one forward is a bad idea even if it is RVP

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      1. monsour20
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Subs are Williams (SWA) and my two non playing Strikers are Moore and Bowery. Both 4.5. I am taking a major risk because both of them probably won't ever play

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        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          If RVP has an off day you are pointless in the strikers department.

          Too risky IMHO.

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          1. onionbarje
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            this

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    3. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      who are your two non-playing strikers?

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  8. Kevin Twine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I can't believe Azpilicuetta has a higher ownership than Cole.

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      he's cheaper

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      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He won't start though, IMO.

        And regarding price. He's even got a higher ownership than Terry who again will probably get more starts/points.

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          people are idiots

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  9. Large Hardon Colluder
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    in all seriousness, what is the point in RMT's?

    If you truly want advice or even if you are just a habitual RMT'er you are only going to get the same answers again and again, based on the 'template'
    so is it really worth it???

    Questions on injuries or fixtures or the pro's and con's of one player over an other, then fine. but rate my whole team? seriously? (bearing in mind we are all guessing anyway)

    IMHO

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I like RMTs, I post them occasionally just to see peoples reaction to my plans, it's not really for advice

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      1. Albert Cole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        This.

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      2. MB10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Agree, I like the RMT's too

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    2. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i don't base things on the template, i base things on players who i will think score points

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      1. Albert Cole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        And this.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      with you there.

      no harm in them, each to their own etc (& they're easy to ignore), just prefer to gather the answers from reading around. although i guess if you're really busy and just want to swoop in, get some feedback, and swoop out it makes sense.

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    4. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, i never ask for advice

      My team itself is advice to others

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        nate, you're approaching guilty pleasure territory. it's so outragous it has to be an act, in which case it's more charming/humourous

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    5. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I think you're taking the rate my "team" too literally. People are usually looking for a nugget of advice on a player or two from a wide group of people who might be able to affirm their choices or highlight risks

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    6. simsey
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Every now and then somebody hits you with a reasoning you hadnt considered, and you get a good idea from it.
      Otherwise its a complete waste of time right now. 99% who did a RMT in here this last month are rejigging their squads again to fit Soldado and it'll be the same after every transfer until Sept....

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  10. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Strategy Debate

    Following on from the uber premium striker debate earlier, I thought it worth polling the strategies for the template teams this year for non-RVP/non-Bale players (up until the obligotory post gw3 wildcard):

    Migs Boruc
    Luiz Coleman Clyne Turner *
    Hazard Walcott Silva Miralles *
    Lukaku Giroud *

    Some players are interchangeable here like Coutinho/Silva/Michu but thats another debate - the price of the player is more important here.

    Bear in mind the minimum for those 3 positions is 4+4.5+4.5=£12.5, that leaves around 4.5mln left.

    The question is: How are most people looking to spend the remaining cash (£17.5m)?

    A) Spend it u/f on say Sturridge
    B) Spend in midfield on Coutinho
    C) Spend 1.5 of the excess in defence (on Kos/Mert/Nasty) and use the other 3.5 on say, Dzeko (with a wilcard plan for wk3) or a better mid, say Nolan.
    D) Spread it around all 3 positions in a balanced fashion e.g. Kos (1.5) + Snod (2.0) + J-Rod (1.5)
    E) Holding cash back to see which bandwagons to jump on

    Vote now!

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    1. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'm planning on having at least 1.5m in the bank to upgrade - with either Lukaku or a Chelsea MF being transferred out for GW2/3. Should be plenty of options. Thinking of starting with Solado atm.

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  11. DD11
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on this?

    Foster - (Boruc)
    Parr - Collins - A. Cole - (Brayford) - (Chester)
    Jarvis - Hazard - Coutinho - Walcott
    Lukaku - Dzeko - RVP

    Exit plan currently is:

    GW1: A. Cole > Whoever's on form out of Coleman/Mertesacker/Kaboul etc
    GW2: Lukaku > Whoever's on form out of Berbatov/Lambert/Kone/Bony etc
    GW3: Use the created funds to upgrade Jarvis

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    1. DD11
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      *Sub mid is Thomas

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    2. logical
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      why coutinho ?

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    3. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      not a fan of your three cheap defenders and i would be wary of Dzeko rotation and Countinho having a slow start. The plan looks good BUT you can never plan which players is going to injured which could effect your team

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      1. DD11
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Good points, thanks for the input!

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  12. Make United Great Again
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Walcott only has 17.2% ownership. Thought that would have been a lot higher!

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    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Giroud may be taking some of his ownership since he is 1m cheaper

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      1. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Could well be! Wally deffo the smarter option IMO though

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  13. Wheato182
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    We like?

    http://imgur.com/YIetCQz

    Or a bit to punty???????

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    1. Wheato182
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      P.S....1.5 million spare.

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      1. Rinseboy
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Soldado for Bony...perfect!

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    2. Rinseboy
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Think I would prefer Soldado to Bony if you can shift funds about

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    3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I like. Could be inspired.

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    4. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      not a fan of Coutinho and i think you need another 4.5 defender. I assume a early WC or a lot of hits

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      1. onionbarje
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        also think you need two playing keepers, if migs gets injured your dead

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    5. Mojo Rojo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Is Garrido nailed on since Norwich signed Olsson?

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  14. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Best keeper to rotate with Mignolet?

    1- Boruc
    2- Mannone
    3- 4 mil bench fodder
    4- someone else under 5 mil?

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    1. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You don't rotate Mignolet.

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      3

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      1. Rinseboy
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Ok great! .5 to upgrade a defender

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    3. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If I had 0.5 to spare i'd pick Boruc but I don't so i'm going with a 4.

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    4. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      any of those options maybe 1 but don't choose 3

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    5. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Boruc

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    6. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hmmmm personally it has to be a 4.5m all the way. I think that Boruc will get the highest total over the season with the biggest upside but that believe others have said that Marshall has the best rotation in on the weeks that you would drop Migs.

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      1. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        People keep saying that but I prefer the Boruc/Migs rotation. I don't go in for strictly H/A rotation though, so maybe that's the difference.

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  15. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    what percentage chance does these players have of starting gw1???

    1) lukaku
    2) ba/torres
    3) azpi
    4) iva
    5) terry
    6) carroll
    7) sturridge
    8) aspas
    9) dzeko
    10) soldado

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    1. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      70%
      25%/5%
      5%
      75%
      75%
      75%
      75%
      90%
      90%
      100%

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      1. Beautiful Game
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        soldado 100%???

        i think spain have a friendly just 2 days before the first game!!!

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        1. Doctor X
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I still think he'll walk straight in. Just my thoughts 🙂

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  16. Albert Cole
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Best defender pick - price no issue - for the two first games?

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    1. Rinseboy
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ivanovic

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      1. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        +1000000000 couldn't ask more from a defender in FPL terms.

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ivanovic, IMO.

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    3. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cole

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    4. Albert Cole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sorry - apart from Chelsea.

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      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Probably Baines then..

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    5. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Johnson from Liverpool

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        lol

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        1. The Machine
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Looking at your team again?

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    6. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      koscielny

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    7. simsey
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A Man City Defender, probably Kompany...

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  17. bandit17
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    If Soldado is 9.5m, which one of these teams do people think is better.

    A:

    Mignolet, (Mannone)

    Collins, Mertesacker, Clyne, (Chester, Parr)

    Coutinho, Hazard, Silva, Walcott, Mirallas

    Soldado, Lukaku (Anelka)

    or B:

    Mignolet, (Mannone)

    Collins, Mertesacker, Clyne, (Chester, Parr)

    Coutinho, Hazard, Silva, Mirallas, (Colback)

    RVP, Lukaku, Rodriguez

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      the simple way of saying this is Miralles+Soldado or RVP+JRod

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      1. simsey
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        no its not, Mirallas is in both teams

        Walcott and Soldado or RVP and Rodriguez.

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    2. Mojo Rojo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A for me, but many people think it's too dangerous being RVP'less.

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  18. Doctor X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Slowly narrowing the shape of my team down gentlemen. One question, which one looks most potent to start the season off with?!

    A or B??

    A) Aspas and Oscar - - - -> RvP for GW 4 without a hit

    B) Lukaku and Mirallas - -> RvP for GW 4 with ONE hit

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      dont make plans like this.

      by wk3 you will have already made a couple of knee jerk transfers and your team will be totally different to how you envisioned.

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      1. Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I agree.

        But plans aside Dr.Rog. What would you rather have?

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        1. Dr. Rog
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          B

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    2. Zarathustra
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B is stronger anyway, maybe you won´t need RVP so soon

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      1. Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        GW 4 home to Palace?! Golazofest!

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  19. Zarathustra
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Your insights will be appreciated

    Luiz vs Cole vs Ivanovic ?

    Coutinho vs Silva vs Walcott?

    Snodgrass vs Mirallas?

    Lukaku vs Dzeko?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cole
      Walcott
      Mirallas
      Lukaku

      In my humble opinion.

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      1. Zarathustra
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        thanks mate

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      2. Doctor X
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Agree with Nate with the rest, although I prefer Ivanovic.

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      3. TexanRed
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        this

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ivanovic
      Coutinho
      Mirallas
      Dzeko

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        A bit of classic SuperDunny there for you...

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Come on. You can surely do better than just regurgitate yesterday's posts?

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    3. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      in terms of points

      Ivan
      Wally
      Mirallas
      Tie

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  20. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Kagawa or Courtinho?
    Lukaku or Oscar?

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    1. Zarathustra
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Monitor Kagawa, but for GW 1 get Coutinho

      Lukaku looks stronger for the DGW, but think of a escape plan after GW2

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    2. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Neither Kags or Cou. Kags isn't nesscarily in the hole, Cou may have a slow start imo although he will probs score the most points.

      Both Lukaku and Oscar both rotation risks, although Lukaku will probs score more points.

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  21. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Could someone RMT please?
    Mignolet (Lewis)
    Jagielka Coleman Mertesacker (Parr, Brayford)
    Hazard Coutinho Silva Walcott (Thomas)
    Bony Lukaku Benteke

    1. Depending on whether Soldado is reasonably priced I will replace him with Bony and downgrade Jagielka.
    Thanks a lot

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    1. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Double up on an Everton defence under a not so defensive minded manager? I'd consider downgrading Jags either ways, whether you're getting Soldado or not.

      That being said, its quite a nice team that.

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks, I'm going to downgrade Jags anyway but i'm not sure with whom to replace him with

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        1. Doctor X
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          There's value in Collins/Shaw/Turner. Take your pick!

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          1. Nice to Finally Michu
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Ben Turner or Michael Turner?

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          2. Nice to Finally Michu
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks for that bit of advice I think i'm going to go for Collins he has the easier initial fixtures

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  22. Sangfroid
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What will be the most common transfer for GW2?

    My money is on either

    Chelsea defender > Zabaleta

    or

    RVP > whichever guy scored a goal and got baps

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  23. Judas
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Need a simple answer on what you guys think on these defensive decisions:

    Luiz or Ivanovic

    Clyne or Shaw

    Coleman or Distin

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  24. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    btw, my fixture proof point wasn't as much an rvp thing as the concept in general. an easier fixture is easier to score or assist in as it's an easier fixture, surely stating the obvious but you know what i mean. hum-dingers like north-london derbies or that mental 11/12 season where the top 4 teams were involved in goal-fests against eachother will always be anomalies (although shouldn't be ignored, e.g the north london derby is probably now at that 'more than a coincidence' stage).

    i think there's merit in trusting rvp early doors as he's the most trustable striker out there. the counter argument is a goal in each of those games is almost a minimum for his price (with the counter to that being a more reliable captain choice as a result, then a counter to that being not the best captain necessarily, simply the most reliable)

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      The risk with RVP is mainly to the downside for the first three weeks.
      If he dosent score double figures then hes probably cost more than he
      makes your team

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    2. Sangfroid
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      His fixtures in the first 5 and the possibility of a rest because of CL mean that he is a no-go for me.

      I'm surprised anyone is considering him.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      counter counter counter
      if fpl i a game about playing the odds then there's arguments both ways, it's far easier to make a case now with that price tag and the fixtures. i'm not too worried about moyes, whatever the opposite of you can't polish a turd is i think applies to rvp under different managers

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  25. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Soldado straight into my team

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Same here

      La Liga players find it easy to fit in too. Can't see a problem with him, unless he is 10m

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    2. Beautiful Game
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      do you reckon he'll start gamewk1??? given spain's friendly..!!

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He unlikely to be involved , is he?

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    3. .
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Season keeper IMO

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      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Heard that one before 😉

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        1. .
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          😉

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    4. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah I'm trying to squeeze him in my team myself. Out of interest, who have you sacrificed for him to be in your squad? It'd have to be Dzeko for me.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Looking ast sacrificing aspas

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  26. Cars and Mané
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    This is very simplistic, but I think it provides some insight. If you take last seasons total points, divide by minutes played, then divide by this seasons price, you get a figure you can use to vaguely compare value for money.

    Based on this rvp comes at 599. All the other top scoring players last season come in over 700, with a few exceptions, but even they're above 650.

    I get the argument that he's a consistent captain choice, but last season was a fantastic season for rvp with a fantastic manager. Even then his value for money didnt match the cheaper players.

    I'm coming round to the view that he's too expensive and requires too much sacrifice. To justify his price he has to do even better than last season. Remember that he's thirty...

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Nearly all the top 100 had him though

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      1. Cars and Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Because they got him much cheaper than 14

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        1. Cars and Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          And I'm not necessarily sure he does as well this season with a more defensively minded coach, in my opinion

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      2. Pap Le Cissier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        If memory serves right though, there were a number of the top 10 that didn't have him for quite a number of weeks. I remember this similar debate amongst others back then

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      3. simsey
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        half of the top 10 didnt have him.... they were suarez and Benteke /Lambert

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    2. Left Peg
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      He's 30 tomorrow 😉

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    3. Psakhotherapy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      hmmmmmmm, interesting

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    4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      This is all well and good if you can pick those players that will outperfrom their price and get these scores of 700+ that you are quoting. Much easier said than done

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      1. Cars and Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not really. I'd bet you a considerable amount of money that many of the obvious ones, if not all, will beat the 600 hurdle rate. Sturridge, for example, scores 877.

        Not that these figures are particularly reliable

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    5. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i got 0.005992407 for RVP

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      1. Cars and Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah I got rid of all the nasty decimal places

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    6. simsey
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Its the captain arguement that people will use to justify having him in their teams.

      But for me 14m is just way too much - needs a season of 300 to justify that in my opinion.

      The way I look at it is that ever week RVP fails those that have him double fail cos their captain fails too. And if the crap they're hiding in their team also fails thats a treble fail

      If you spend 9m on Soldado instead (for example) and he fails than you still have the hope that your captain (on the weeks that its not Soldado) wont fail and you also have the likelihood of more points from elsewhere in your team due to the extra 5m of quality in it.

      Of course RVP can hit a hattrick some week but its just too much to risk if someone like Giroud, Soldado or Kone perform similar to Suarez last season.

      In short I see big sales of RVP when he doesn't deliver cos people will see that they're missing out on points in too many other places....

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  27. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Is Vertonghen definitely out for GW1?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not sure. Maybe ask SuperDunny? He seems to know a lot

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Guilty

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      last i saw was he's touch and go for it, 50/50ish. that was over a week ago though

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    3. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Only from what the reports are suggesting, but it looks likely.

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    4. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No one has confirmed he is definitely out but his recovery time from injury was supposed to be 3 -4 weeks taking him till end of GW1

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  28. TheSaltedSlug
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Why the Walcott love???

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      14 goals, 13 assists, with only 23 or so games started

      Who do you have in mind?

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      tried and tested. you assume with pretty much the same playing staff and same manager as last season he's a safe bet to repeat his exploits of recent seasons, always a good bet for double figure goals and assists

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      1. Pap Le Cissier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Add in the fact of no contract hassles to worry about as well...

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        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          yeah true that

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  29. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    If Carroll is fit anyone looking to get him gw1???

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah probably will go Dzeko > Carroll

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      the caulker signing puts me off him a bit. can see it being like the west ham stoke games last season where carroll and the cbs metaphorically jumped up into eachother and combusted

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  30. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Just looked at Liverpools fixtures in more detail.

    Are they really that easy?

    STK - fair enough
    avl - there were much improved later in the year and carry attacking threat
    MUN - clearly dark red
    swa - should be at least red if not dark red
    SOT - will be one of the decent mid table teams this year, have spent well
    sun - never going to be that easy away from home

    Certainly dont think Coutinho > Silva.
    And at 9.0 Sturridge could struggle to be worth it.
    Even Migs might not be worth it either.

    Ultimately, its Liverpool, they are a midtable team.

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Your last comment is where the flaw is. Expect a good season from Liverpool under Rodgers. I'm not a Liverpool fan either.

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    2. Psakhotherapy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Win
      Win
      Draw/Win
      Draw
      Win
      Win

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      1. Dr. Rog
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Win
        Draw
        Loss
        Loss
        Win
        Draw

        8pts from 6

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    3. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i would say they are just below the power 5 even if Bale leaves Spurs, bit harsh to call them middtable. I would say they are in no mans land really (#6). Back to the main point if you take Suarez's ban into account you have a good point

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    4. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I don't think Sturridge or Coutinho are worth 9m, and I've not even been considering them. Liverpool blow so hot and cold but they can be resolute in defence (and have been in preseason). I'm tripling on their defence - mainly because of the kind prices of Migs and Toure - but also because it excuses me from having to try to pick Chelsea cover from their rotation threatened defence.

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      1. halcyon
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        i think there is apower 3 - man city, man united and and chelsea.
        followed closely by spurs and arsenal.
        next up is everton and liverpool

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