The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

The Knee Jerk returns in a new, digestible format. An instant response to the matches or matches of the day, offering a quick appraisal of the protagonists and dilemmas posed.

Day one, and already Fantasy managers find themselves re-addressing their “big decision”. Conveniently, a precocious talent on Merseyside may just offer a ready-made solution.

The Game Changer

It was clear that the decision on Robin Van Persie would again split Fantasy Football managers down the middle. Owned by 43% of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers, there were vast waves of support for the argument that his huge 14.0 price tag was too much of an obstacle, that value could be found elsewhere to compensate for his undoubted consistency.

That might still be the case, as Christian Benteke and Danny Welbeck demonstrated, but Van Persie’s superb brace at the Liberty this evening will have prompted early doubts.

Those without Van Persie must now decide whether to remain firm and back their initial policy or consider extensive emergency surgery to acquire him. Should Van Persie return again at home to Chelsea, then big investment could arrive over the international break ahead of the delicious Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace in Gameweek 4.

If 14.0 looked too much this morning, we can only imagine where Van Persie will be in a few weeks if he shows that acclaimed consistency.

Van Persie really is the biggest test of the “jerky knee”.

The Underused

There was every chance that Ross Barkley would benefit from Darron Gibson’s likely absence in the Everton midfield, and so it proved.

The 19-year-old capped what was described by Roberto Martinez as an “outstanding performance” with a sweetly struck goal to hand the Toffees the advantage at Carrow Road. While that was eventually surrendered to a debut strike from Ricky van Wolfswinkel, Barkley had done more than enough to have us Fantasy Managers take notice.

Barkley is owned by less than 2% of FPL managers and yet, at just 4.5, offers obvious appeal as a fifth midfielder for those now frantically looking for a route to recruit Van Persie.

Can he retain his starting role? It’s perhaps doubtful but in Martinez he’s playing under a manager who will give young talent a stage to impress. Barkley will surely start at home to West Brom next weekend and that might just be good enough for plenty of Fantasy managers.

The Selection Poser

The absence of Robert Snodgrass in today’s Norwich lineup was a bitter blow. According to Chris Hughton, a groin problem kept him out of the reckoning and allowed new signing Nathan Redmond to sparkle. Hughton did indicate that Snodgrass’ problem is minor, having been “touch and go” for today’s clash. The Norwich boss also stated that the Scot would have started over Elliot Bennett, offering some reassurance that Redmond’s performance will not be a cause for further doubt for Snodgrass owners.

The Norwich City lineup does create further issues, however. Steven Whittaker’s strike underlines his case to retain his start at right-back, although we can surely expect Seb Bassong to earn a recall once fully fit. It remains to be seen if club captain Russell Martin will oust Whittaker at full-back, or whether Michael Turner will eventually come under threat.

Arsene Wenger would love such options. With injuries to Kieran Gibbs and Bacary Sagna, coupled with Laurent Koscielny’s dismissal, the Gunners rearguard is now in tatters. Already deprived of Thomas Vermaelen, Wenger looks set to a patched up back four to face Fulham next weekend. Those who invested in Per Mertesacker and Wojciech Szczęsny will already be considering an exit route.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,937 Comments Post a Comment
  1. SPorting
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    For what it's worth, and that's not much, I'm still planning to bring in Lambert and HBA in the coming weeks.

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    1. Sánchez
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      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'm still getting Aguero next week

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  2. Jafalad
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    10 years, 8 months ago

    So some positves today:

    STH defence - Borat only made one save
    Toure and threat at sps.
    Nolan
    Giroud 😕
    Coutinho looks v influential.

    Not bothered too much by RVP esp if Solidado and Lukaku rip it up. Would rather have them than the likes Jrod/Anelka and two cheap mids.

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      This is it.

      Rvp wont double every week

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      1. TheSteel
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        He will. 76 goals this season

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      10 years, 8 months ago

      *one cheap mid 😉

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      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Nice team. Just blighted by having to pick Morrison or Sulk each week.

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  3. Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Which is best at beginning of season

    Fiso or TotalFPL

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
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      10 years, 8 months ago

      Fiso has never steered me wrong.

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  4. The Machine
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    10 years, 8 months ago

    Are there any posts in here that aren't:

    1) gloating crap (considering there is still a long way to go in the DGW) or

    2) insecure people trying to justify not having RvP or Benteke by quoting stats, theories and opinions.

    3) People talking about their tranfser plans like getting HBA and Lambert that no one cares about?

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    1. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Or aussie morons repeating themselves?

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Repeating?

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      2. Sánchez
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        10 years, 8 months ago

        Nate didn't post the first one to be fair

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      3. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Oh, didn't realise he was "challenged".

        I'll leave him alone.

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    2. Sánchez
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      😆

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Sits down and gets popcorn ready.

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      1. Ings on the up
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        * pours drink *

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      2. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
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        😀

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    4. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      How dare people post about FPL on this site

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        correction

        Mimicking not copying 😀

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    5. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Wait a sec, mods, i'm only responsible for that third point..

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      1. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Aww. Is wittle Nate afwaid of the big bad mods?

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        1. The Machine
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          No. I think it is clear to make yourself clear.

          Clearly, comment has got on your nerves.

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          1. SPorting
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Oh shut up you tart and open up to the banter.

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    6. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      4) copied and therefore ruining the point.

      I take it you're knee jerking RvP and Benteke and Coleman in next week.

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        No

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        1. SPorting
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ah, Kos, Rat and Bony for you then.

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          1. The Machine
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            No, i mean i already have Benteke

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            1. SPorting
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              So just RvP and Coleman then?

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      2. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Dont worry Nate , just having a bit of fun. Been a tense few hours

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      3. dcarlito
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        There is an awful lot of jerking going on to be fair.

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    7. The Machine
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      10 years, 8 months ago

      Only mocking The guy on the previous page, btw.

      The first two points aren't coming from my mouth...

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      1. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        The guy?

        Who is this noob loser called Nate?

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  5. bonobo88
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    60 ! Hazard Lukaku still to play...

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/296830/history/

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      You wont beat 100 though.
      Those with chelsea x 3 and hazard captain will

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  6. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Argh still cant get over the fact I had Shaw last night and then switched to Clyne knowing they both are fitness doubts and thought Clyne would be better bet long term.

    ARGH! FFS 🙁

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Long term means you have to wait

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    2. The3rdTurd
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      To be fair, Clyne did pick himself:

      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/187547/event-history/1/

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    3. Rasping Drive
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      So why isn't Clyne in your team then?

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Preferred Norwich and WHam chances of a CS..

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  7. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone tempted to get yohan KEBAB

    from gw2 ?

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    1. KingKebab
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      very tempting

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  8. JayCee
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Argh, bottom of page once again, Repost:

    What's the deal with people buying Whitaker, Barkley and Kasami?

    Am I right in thinking none of them will be nailed on for a significant stretch of time? Anyone disagree?

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      It's a dance craze called doin' the knee-jerk.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        or doin the ryan taylor... can never tell which is which until GW 26 🙂

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      season keepers

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    3. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      monkey see monkey do

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Barkley isn't nailed on, but he's a very highly rated young player. Wish I had him, but I'm not using up a transfer on my bench fodder mid.

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      1. pieces
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        this

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    5. JayCee
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks guys, I thought I was missing something for a moment.

      Barkley does seem to be getting a lot of praise, worth monitoring

      Got to sort out Anelka/Morrison mess with a rotating cheap mid and forward... Feels wrong but I'm considering Chamakh... :O

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      1. pieces
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        He was very good, best player om the pitch imo

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  9. Ings on the up
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Preliminary transfer plans

    A) Kols --> Coleman

    B) Kols --> Clyne & Lukaku --> Benteke/Sturridge (-4)

    I'm leaning towards B with Sturridge

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      C) keep kosc.. he'll be back in 1 game. sagna could be fit and jenkinson is more than capable. so nothing's changed.. that being said lukaku to one of those looks good

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      1. Ings on the up
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for replying - I would need to sell Ivanovic then, I could get Soldado then

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  10. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just got in, RVP double is just about the worst thing that could have happened. 34 points so far but none of my strikers have played yet. Hoping one of them gets a brace at least (hopefully Lukaku)

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    1. Thick Of It
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      ? He could have got a double hat trick and 3 assists. 10 pts (then some baps) is not that much

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      1. DropPointsNotBombs
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        True. I'm pleased with the start tbh. Coleman is a good differential as only 7% have him. Hopefully he'll get some bonus points too. It was all about the strikers today though

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    2. I Am ToTo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      when you transfer before even GW1 is over
      u know something is wrong
      spend to much time here

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  11. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    When will the BPS be added?

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  12. dabs
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    31 with terry,hazard, soldado, lukaku (c), benteke to play. Without bps, this put me in good stead at all?just so I can get a feel for work mini league.

    Cheers

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    1. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      why not wait and see when gw is over. means close to nothing

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  13. The Orienteer - find me in …
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    10 years, 8 months ago

    2,497,692 (and counting) now members of FPL - nice to be part of such a huge international community.

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    1. Thick Of It
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Probably about 1.5 million people due to all the multiple teams

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  14. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Glad Coleman came up with the goods

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    1. Saint Domingo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He's mustard 🙂

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He was superb a couple of seasons back and a winner against Spurs endeared him to me 😉

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    3. pieces
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Actually did not think he was great from a non fpl perpective, while he got forward plenty delivery was terrible. The goal was a tap in from good work by Pienaar and Jelly, he did nowt

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  15. I Am ToTo
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    lol
    you all convinced me to leave RVP
    nicely done

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  16. SW6
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    No need to panic. Hazard, Lampard and Lukaku will come to our rescue

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  17. Provisional bonus points
    Granville
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Provisional baps

    Liverpool v Stoke
    Mignolet 3, Johnson 2, Aspas 2

    Arsenal v Villa
    Benteke 3, Giroud 2, Szczesny 1

    Norwich v Everton
    Coleman 3, Barkley 3, Whittaker 1

    Sunderland v Fulham
    Hangeland 3, Kasami 2, Stekelenberg 1, Reither 1, Briggs 1

    West Brom v Southampton
    Lovren 3, Shaw 3, Lambert 1

    West Ham v Cardiff
    Nolan 3, Cole 3, O'Brien, Reid 1

    Swansea v Man Utd
    Welbeck 3, Van Persie 2, Hernandez 1, Rooney 1

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Ohh cheers for this

      Only 3 here

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Giroud and sczechny getting baps seems a bit harsh

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Yes that shows the system is no good imo

        Should of been all villa Aba was immense

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    3. Attila the Bum
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yes... come to me my lovely baps. I'm going to put my face between Mignolet's and Coleman's and just motorboat until I get friction burn on my cheeks.

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      1. Granville
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        You started well last year I remember. Dropped like an iron anchor last few weeks.

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ah how memory does become fallible. T'was the opposite, had a horrendous start and WC'd in GW2 or 3. Finished fairly mediocre 16k. But yeah, I know this GW is the exception rather than the rule.

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      2. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Da fuq

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    4. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      3 maxs and a 2 if that stands, that would be mint!

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    5. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Won't Cole's higher PPI score count against Nolan?

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    6. Mickeylicious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      sturridge scored the only goal and no bonus? that's crazy

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    7. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      How come Lambert gets 1?

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    8. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw and Benteke 🙂

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    9. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      That's the provisional baps.

      When can we expect the professional baps?

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    10. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nolan & Benteke.

      A beautiful start to my £90 quids worth of money league buy ins.

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    11. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Reid is gonna be a legend this year.. if fulham keep CS's then so too hangeland. reminds me of the system 3 years ago

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    12. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Much happier with the way these are calculated. From what I know about the games, seems much fairer especially for the keepers.

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah I like it better too. Nice to see keepers get some reward. Plus the live updates are a really nice addition.

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        1. bozo614
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Where can you see the live updates? Thanks!!

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            On the Gameweek points screen, go to the fixtures, click on the fixture you want and select 'detailed stats' the bonus points is second column from right. It updates throughout the game. Very handy.

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      2. pieces
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Nah I much preferred the old system of a few arbs in the stands calling it. Made for much more fun when the baps out of left field created all the howls of protest every Sunday/Monday. Otherwise Charlie Adam would never have become a FPL legend

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  18. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Looking at bps figures suggests defenders will score more baps overall than last year. Seems much more even

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  19. alex5
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    @ Demi

    your team name in the Stoke league is incredible

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Look at mine. 🙂

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  20. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    i have the same runners as the guy on the left..

    https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7624688640/hAC6E6666/

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  21. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Barklay a bit annoying

    Had him for weeks then took out for Williams
    Have to many chelsea to remove to bother getting him , but he
    will probably continue to be good and will be about 5m by time get
    round to buying him

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  22. Ted Maul
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    So who's going to be the first to create a fake Tony Pulis or Mark Hughes account and join the Stoke City mini-league? I would if I could be bothered.

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    1. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      LOL, I see Aaron Ramsey's just joined!

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    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      The Mark Hughes one would get deleted halfway through the season then still go back on the forum to bitch and moan for months afterwards

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  23. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just been on fiso. How the fLIck did 372 people think it would be a good idea to start with Suarez and then sell him after the game starts?

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  24. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Imagine chelsea loose 1-0 to hull

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Mourinho out

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    2. Ings on the up
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Would end in FFS rioting!

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  25. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Is it worth the extra 1.5 mil to get lambert over jay rod ?

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    1. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yes. Lambert is on penalties and is a better player.

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  26. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    How nice to be able to post again, could not even get on this morning.

    Cannot believe RVP got a brace. I took him out last night.

    On the plus side, get in Coleman and Mig!

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  27. zimba
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    65 points and still got my chelsea boys / captain to play - good start!

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    1. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Keep it up!

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  28. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    WEEKLY ANELKA GOAL COUNT

    Week: 1
    Goals: 0

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    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Haha...I've already said I'd eat a sheep if he scores more than 4 goals this season! 😛

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      1. pieces
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        That's disgusting, you ABs do the weirdest sh#t with sheep 😀 😀

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  29. Mickeylicious
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    guys I am sure it has been mentioned before but what are the bonus points on Liverpool game?

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  30. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    this valencia team would have given barca n madrid a real go (plus jodi alba)

    p.hernadez mata silva
    soldado villa

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