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World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 6, Day 1

The World Cup returns to our screens once again this evening, after Holland’s dramatic spot-kick win over Costa Rica on Saturday night brought the quarter-finals to a conclusion. This time around, hosts Brazil have it all to do against Germany – with Thiago Silva suspended at the heart of defence and Neymar sidelined due to a back injury, Big Phil Scolari doesn’t have his problems to seek:

Brazil: Cesar; Maicon, Luiz, Dante, Marcelo; Fernandinho, Gustavo; Hulk, Oscar, Bernard; Fred

Germany: Neuer; Lahm, Hummels, Boateng, Hoewedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Kroos; Muller, Klose, Ozil

Scolari makes three changes from the side that narrowly beat Colombia in the quarter-finals. Bayern Munich’s Dante replaces the suspended Silva at centre-half, Luiz Gustavo returns from a one-match ban to take the place of Paulinho in the centre of the park, whilst Shakhtar Donetsk wide man Bernard gets the nod in the attacking midfield three.

The Brazil boss keeps faith with the misfiring Fred, then, despite a return of one goal from the opening five matches, whilst Oscar will be looking to improve upon his recent displays – after a goal and assist in the tournament opener against Croatian, he’s mustered just a single assist in the subsequent four fixtures. David Luiz has been subject to heavy Fantasy interest right across the games after producing two goals and an assist in his last three appearances – as we saw in the win over Jose Pekerman’s side, his set-piece duties could be key if the hosts are to prevail.

For the Germans, Joachim Low continues with the XI that started last week’s 1-0 win over France. Per Mertesacker remains on the bench, then, with Philip Lahm at right-back again and Jerome Boateng partnering Mats Hummels at centre-half, whilst Miroslav Klose is handed the lone forward role.

Top scorer Thomas Muller is looking to end a two-game drought – having scored four times in the group stages, the Bayern man has delivered back-to-back blanks against Algeria and France but will fancy his chances against a backline with one clean sheet in five matches. At the back, Mats Hummels’ second goal of the tournament got the better of the French last weekend and with three clean sheets to his name over four appearances, the Dortmund centre-half has picked up plenty of new Fantasy owners ahead of this evening’s crunch encounter.

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  1. Kingmasson
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    96 with Dutch keeper, blind and Robben in my XI, how the fook do I find room for messi, rojo and de vrij?

    Gustavo and hummels clearly gone but is Luiz the third with a decent 6?.

    Hoping for another mueller(c) assist for a one day 100!!!

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    1. BantamPhil
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      It won't be awarded

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  2. Grunter75
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Hahaha....

    Neuer 11, Boeteng 8 Howedes 9 Lamb 13 Kroos 19 Mueller 13 even.. Gustavo 7 Luiz 6 and I captain ...... Hummels 3!!!!

    To make matters worse I went to the cinema and missed what sounds like the best match of the world cup!?!

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Wouldn't say best, a bit 1 sided for that

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    2. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      You went to the cinema during the world cup semi final? What are you doing on this site?

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    3. It’s A Joke
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Depends what you saw...

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      1. I.A.P
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        If it was Transformers......

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        1. Grunter75
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          yup 🙁

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          1. Butthead
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Your loss

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            1. @ocprodigy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              That bad?

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              1. Grunter75
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                It was a better 2 hours than any of the quarter finals

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  3. Beautiful Game
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Would you sub out 7 or 8 points for any of the below players?

    1) Messi (If doesn't score would get 4/5)
    2) Rojo (Clean sheet not expected)
    3) Enzo (If starts then comes into consideration, but will he give 7pts?)

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    1. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Just Messi.

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  4. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    well that was just one giant turd of a matchday haha..I'm really glad I decided to take a punt on Kroos over Muller and capped Hummels 🙄

    at what point will they stop updating points so I can make my subs without worry? have 4 players to bring in

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    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Wait for the lineups.

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Game is 21 hours away

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  5. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    My rank just increased to 10th in MacD's. Still got Messi, Mascherano, De Vrij and Garay to play. Has to be Messi for the armband?

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    1. Hurricane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      wow..well done!

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    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Who did you captain Bubz?

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Hummels lol

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          🙂 Me too. Always tomorrow.

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          1. Bubz
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            I so nearly captained Kroos 🙁 .

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    3. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      For sure?

      How many points are you on?

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        It keeps changing, so will probably be different in 10 minutes. Im on 714 points at the moment.

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Nicely done.

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    4. SW6
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      McD's game going good for you again, nice one 🙂

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, I'm still annoyed about that one week when I subbed out 16 points haha, could really use those points right now. Might have a chance at a top 10 finish though. How are you doing?

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    5. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      well done!

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    6. Declan
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Great stuff, Good Luck

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks

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    7. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Doing better than me,I'm back down to 24th,
      Forgot to say I have Mascherano also, maybe a good shout for a safe 9 or so

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    8. fc.cubilas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      10th place too, had Schürle till an hour before the deadline, no one to blame but myself i guess! Good luck mate, who would have guessed the Mcds game became so exciting!

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      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Nice! Who you got left to play? I also had Shurrle and changed him to Klose after seeing the lineups 🙁

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        1. Sean.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I'm Mc Lovin' it 🙂
          Good luck guys

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        2. fc.cubilas
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Same here, @#@$ lineups 🙂 Never mind, that's the beauty/fun of the game! Got Messi, Robben, Mascherano, DeVrij and Rojo left...

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  6. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Captain Messi or Robben?

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    1. seanie3
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      robben

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  7. Saint Domingo
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Will Lahms 2nd assist be added guys?

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    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Hope so.

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    2. Phil_fox85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      It's his first (of the match) that is missing I believe.

      No idea, probably will arrive for Muller. Small chance no assist will be granted at all, never know with McD's.

      Morning will reveal all!

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      1. Phil_fox85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        To confirm, Muller got a small deflection before the goal.

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        1. chinmusic
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          And by McD rules a small deflection is not an assist. The morning should reveal a Lahm 2nd assist according to their rules. So Muller's it is.

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  8. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    OMG wtf has happened, my league is showing that my points haven't been updated but my overall points has.

    It's saying I still got 591 points which is what i had from last round but where my rank is it says I'm on 668. WTF.

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    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      OMG WTF

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    2. BantamPhil
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      It will update chill

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    3. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      OMFG

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    4. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I was in a state of shock, 80 points ahead to being 5 points behind was a big shock.

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  9. Billy Gilmore
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Where the hell is(are) Ozil's delivery point(s)? 😡

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  10. Jaydav
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Down to 30th in McD's 🙁 messi, mascherano or garay for C ??

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  11. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    56 points here 🙁

    Not bad considering I only had Hummels as my German defender, no Muller, Klose, Lahm, Kroos

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  12. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Seriously though, David Luiz was just appalling.
    At fault in all 7 goals, 50 million?

    Somewhere in London Mourinho and Abramovic are getting shi7 faced. 🙂

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    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He's too much heart and too less head.

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    2. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Dante did not look any better.

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      1. BantamPhil
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        What could Dante do when Luiz and Marcelo were bombing down the left wing?

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          ^^This

          Also Dante and Gustavo were plants. 😉

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        2. Walrus Eggs
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Bombing down the left wing had nothing to do with any of the first 3 goals.
          First goal: Miscommunication between Luiz and Dante; hard to say which one is at fault. Maybe both.
          Second goal: Dante is on no one, steps out to make a tackle just as a guy runs into his space, and fails. David Luiz is marking a man in a dangerous position when the assist is played in. More on Dante than on Luiz I think.
          Third goal: I have no clue what either of them are doing. Terrible from both. I think they may have already given up at this point.

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    3. Doc Drogo
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      There is probably a manager in Paris getting sh1t faced for a different reason

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        **Abu Dhabi

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Can't agree with you there.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        On what?

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      2. chinmusic
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Ever the contrarian, Doos

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      3. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Woof Woof, cluck cluck, gibber gibber, my old mans a mushroom!

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    5. non flying dutchman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      no, cos they get Costa. same shit.

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  13. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    This is bullshit, why is it just me with the rank and points unupdated. 😡

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    1. bunnyrampage
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      My points are updated, but not my rank...

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  14. CubeBrick
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Gustavo's 7 for Blind/De Vrij/Rojo ?!?!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah.

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    2. Belli2007
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      twisting the 7 myself for mascherano

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  15. SW6
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    17th now but with 6 players still to go, it's gonna be exciting with so many FFS-ers near the top.

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    1. BantamPhil
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Come on!! Surely one of the FFS guys can win the car

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    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Crept up to 59th currently, it's called a late charge 😉

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Lost 15 pts GW2 through glitch, bugger, those would come in handy now. Didn't bother too much at time as I still won my H2H but didn't expect to get this near the top.

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    3. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Still got capt to play? Who you captaining? 😉

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      1. SW6
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Nope, sticking with Muller.
        Cillessen, De Vrij, Rojo, Mascherano, Messi and Robben for tomorrow.

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        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Nice. I fancy you to overtake me then

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  16. 420king
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Hummels may be out for finals.

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  17. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Eurgh had it perfectly in FOX, Muller, Kroos, Schurrle then took out Kroos. Feck sake.

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  18. GREENDREAMS11
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    before kick off i seen the line ups, I removed Schurlle for Klose, took out Kroos and replaced him with Ozil (thought Ozil was due) and changed the armband from Muller to Hummels. lol. I couldn't have got it more wrong if I tried.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Ouch!

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      You could have brought in Luiz.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        lol, you have to laugh though, absolutely shite moves...

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  19. Zep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    I'm torn on how I want tomorrow's game to go...

    A closely fought 0-0 would suit me in McD's, but with Messi(c) and Higuain in Fox, I'll need him to score well if I want to get into the top 10...

    Cue 1-1 Messi involvement...

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      no* Messi involvement...

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  20. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Captain Garay or De Vrij? Last chance:) Cheers!

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    1. Belli2007
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Coin toss I reckon. De Vrij against Messi at one end and Garay against Robben and RVP at the other

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Robben v Rojo

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      2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I know, Garay has been consistent averaging 10 points even if not CS... But I believe Argentina sony have that speed on flank without Di Maria... Not sure

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  21. Zep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Can't believe people actually kept Shurrle in Fox knowing he wasn't starting... very risky...

    At least Arvin has an excuse...

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    1. JT's Dog
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Kept him, I brought him in for hit

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      • Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Lol jealous much.

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Not really, I have Kroos Muller Lahm and Ozil... 😎

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    2. Jacketts Potatoes
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Guys could do with help please....
      Here's my team

      Cillessen
      Hummels luiz garay de-vrij (Rojo)
      Lahm gustavo mascherano gago (Schneider)
      Muller messi (robben)

      How on earth do I take hummels out for robben and go from 442 to 433?

      Maccies btw.....

      I'll prob make other changes but this is one that worries me as I don't want the wrong player to disappear...

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      1. chinmusic
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Remove Hummels, then add Rojo. Then remove one of your mids who hasn't played yet, THEN change to 4-3-3.

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      2. Belli2007
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        McD's I presume.

        Swap Rojo for Hummels and then change formation to 433. It drops players on the right so Gago will move to bench. Then you would have option to switch out gustavo

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    3. JT's Dog
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Before tonight I had 577 points , after the game I have 577 points
        Should never have complained about them stealing my robben points I guess

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      • HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Anyway at least that ends the "Dani Alves a a liability" argument 🙂

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      • applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        that was really really weird, shocking, interesting and disappointing at the same time

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Never thought I would enjoy seeing Brazil being humiliated but Scolari is an appalling manager.

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Agreed, left behind some really good players, and stuck with a system and players that didn't work

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          2. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            i knew i would enjoy it Gnu. Scolari was giving it large the other day saying how they were going to win it, arrogant fool, They've been riding their luck for a while now, it was coming.

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            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Arrogant fool, yep.

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              1. GREENDREAMS11
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                see we drew each other in the petrofeck cup. 🙂

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                1. Gnu
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  ? what cup?

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        2. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Agreed.
          I laughed a lot and was a bit disappointed, shocked, yet not surprised

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      • Lucas Leiva
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Fred's heatmap for tonight...

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDN4FWCcAINlCg.png:large

        Not a touch in the opposition penalty area.

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        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          hulk going off before him really pissed me off

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          1. The Light Knight
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Hulk not getting played on the right from the start pissed me off, I accept he might be crap at all else but I enjoy watching him cut inside, blast, rinse + repeat

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          2. Lucas Leiva
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Being singled out for boos in that team performance showed just how bad it was. The biggest joke (player-wise) of the World Cup.

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      • ManUtdFan_UK
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        So...that was a fail.

        Who to captain now out of:

        - Messi
        - Garay
        - Robben
        - De Vrij

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        1. Root
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Captain attacker as a differential.

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          1. Frip
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Captain the central defender for safe points 😉

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      • tw
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        The problem with Google's logo today is that both cars are evenly matched 😆

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      • gers23
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Am I right in saying that David Luiz will be the most expensive defender ever when he signs?

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          after today, PSG will try to have something go wrong with his medical 😉

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        2. GREENDREAMS11
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Not sure, my mate was saying PSG have have actioned their 14 day money back guarantee clause

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